: I need info on California vehicle laws and other info


elusiv
07-26-2003, 12:05 PM
I am a Marine stationed in North Carolina. I have orders to permanently transfer to San Diego next month and I am concerned that I won't be able to drive the jeeps out there for a variety of reasons.
1. My jeep has a 4.5l stroker. It looks like its stock except the oba. It has all the emissions on it and I dont have any engine codes. It has stock injectors and a very mild cam.. might it pass?

2. My jeep also has 9" lift and 37"MTR's for street tires on full width axles. even with the 7" flares, the tires hang out a good 4". My wifes jeep has 6" lift and 35" tires that hang out of the stock flares 2-3" I can get wider flares for hers, but I just dont want to buy odd offset rims for mine.....though I do have beadlocks I use off-road.

3. I dont have an e-brake since I swapped to disks in the rear. Is the inspection for emissions or safety or both? I have an atlas so I figure I could call jesse if need be for a pinion mounted brake.

3. I'm going to show up out there... and I have never been there before. I'm worried about having to park 2 jeeps, a 26' traliler, and my tow rig. ( I also need a place to live)

KWTMECH
07-26-2003, 12:07 PM
Sounds like everything else on the streets up here in no. cal.

Todd W
07-26-2003, 12:10 PM
Hey Elusive! Welcome to California!

I`m not sure about the 'inspection' of bringing a vehicle into CA, but if you are registering it in CA you need to have it smogged I know that, and the emissions test is just that emissions they don't care about your ebrake.. I passed mine without an ebrake.
Ebrake light on and all.

I`m not sure if you have to goto an Inspection Station and have it looked at but if it's just SMOG you should have no trouble with the LOOKS or SIZE... only the emissions part.

If you don't drive your Jeep alot on the highway I suggest running through a full tank with "Chevron With Techron" in it. I failed smog the first time, and the worker told me to go get some from Chevron run it on the Freewa with it for full tank and "higher" RPMs and then come back... I did and I passed... so that's something to think about.

Good luck, and look forward to seeing you up for wheeling!

-Todd

Dan-H
07-26-2003, 12:16 PM
My understanding was active duty Military did not need to re-register vehicles when the are transferred.

Even "permanant" tranfers are only permanant until the next one right?

If so, you can keep the NC plates, etc etc.

Proof of insurance would be the only thing you could get hassled for.

elusiv
07-26-2003, 12:40 PM
I still need to find more info on all of this, but I know in most states.. this is true........
2 out of 3 have to be from the same state.. drivers liscence, insurance and plates. My drivers liscence is MI, my insurance is going to have to be CA, so I may have to get MI plates instead of the NC plates I have now...which is fine.. no inspections there.

This is all good, but I have HEARD that the base a "deal with the devil" out there.... to get a base sticker (for access on the base) you need a CA inspection NO MATTER WHAT STATE THE PLATES ARE FROM.
I'm starting hate CA already.... but I begged for the orders cause of the wheeling out there.

70~K5
07-26-2003, 01:08 PM
You can either have your car registered where you're stationed or at your "home of record". You could keep your insurance at the same place as your drivers license and car registration. Military and students don't have to change to Kali license or registration.

Bubba Ray Boudreaux
07-26-2003, 01:33 PM
From the California Vehicle Code, first looked up in my personal copy, then copied and pasted from the following website (i.e. if more people went here to find answers, there would be less BS:flipoff2: posted)California Legal Info (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html)

6701. (a) Any nonresident owner of a vehicle registered in a
foreign state who is a member or spouse of a member of the armed
forces of the United States on active duty within this state, and any
resident owner of a vehicle registered in a foreign state who is a
member or spouse of a member of the armed forces of the United States
returning from active duty in a foreign state, may operate the
vehicle in this state without securing California registration after
satisfying all of the following requirements:
(1) The license plates displayed on the vehicle are valid plates
issued by a foreign jurisdiction.
(2) The vehicle registration and license plates are issued to the
military person or spouse of the military person.
(3) The vehicle registration and license plates were issued by the
foreign jurisdiction where the military person was last regularly
assigned and stationed for duty by military orders or a jurisdiction
claimed by the nonresident military person as the permanent state of
residence.
(4) If the vehicle is a motor vehicle, the owner or driver has in
force one of the forms of financial responsibility specified in
Section 16021.
(b) For purposes of paragraph (3) of subdivision (a), military
orders do not include military orders for leave, for temporary duty,
or for any other assignment of any nature requiring the military
person's presence outside the foreign jurisdiction where the owner
was regularly assigned and stationed for duty.
(c) This section applies to all vehicles owned by the military
person or spouse except any commercial vehicle used in any business
manner wherein the military person or spouse receives compensation.

One last item to note for those in need. You can call your local CHP office (or if out of state, look one up on the web), there is a desk officer and from my experience, you can keep them on the phone until your question is answered. My best so far has been about 20 minutes.:D

withamc
07-26-2003, 01:36 PM
I know a couple of guys out here who have 4.6 strokers. They don't seem to have a problem with smog.
How's the power with the stroker? Big difference? I'm planning on doing mine soon.

yotee
07-26-2003, 02:28 PM
the only inspections i know of in calli other than smog are for vehicles that have been totled and rebuilt (salveged title) as for the rest put mud flaps on it and no probs:D mine stick out 3 or 4 inches and only got ticketed by a park ranger when mud came off and hit his windshield, chp signed it off 4 me.

we4jeepn
07-26-2003, 03:06 PM
When I was active duty in San Diego I had to have a passing smog before I could get a base sticker. This is something to think about. This goes even if it isn't required where it is registered. I got out in 98 so this may have changed.

GRMhick
07-26-2003, 03:37 PM
All the DMV cared about when I brought my 4 runner in to cali from oregon, was to verify the vin, and that it passed smog. Nothing else.
Though, they did start to give me shit because it has a "fiberglass shell" and wanted me to get a commercial license for it :rolleyes:

Garrett

dumass
07-26-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Bubba Ray Boudreaux
From the California Vehicle Code, first looked up in my personal copy, then copied and pasted from the following website (i.e. if more people went here to find answers, there would be less BS:flipoff2: posted)California Legal Info (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html)



One last item to note for those in need. You can call your local CHP office (or if out of state, look one up on the web), there is a desk officer and from my experience, you can keep them on the phone until your question is answered. My best so far has been about 20 minutes.:D


Bubba has the answer. there should be a sticky for these questions. All the states links.

Here's ArizonaArizona revised statutes (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ArizonaRevisedStatutes.asp)


the specific sections sometimes need to be referenced to other titles for definitions to clarify but it's all there. usually if you carry a copy of something you think you're going to get hassled over, the officer will at least consider the statute before issuing a citation, unless you act like an ass about it. If you do get cited many jurisdictions will accept a fax and copy of verifying documents to avoid court. If you do wind up in court I have had the officer (they are required to be present) drop charges before the judge hears the matter just to save face. My last one was a speeding ticket, much more difficult to overcome. But if they know you were folowing the rules (statute) there's not much they can say.

Hope this helps.

Jim

Big Rich
07-26-2003, 05:07 PM
This part of the code:

(3) The vehicle registration and license plates were issued by the
foreign jurisdiction where the military person was last regularly
assigned and stationed for duty by military orders or a jurisdiction
claimed by the nonresident military person as the permanent state of
residence.


sounds as if the reg goes out of date from state of origin, and you are still assigned duty here then you'd need to reg. it here.

Rich

Bubba Ray Boudreaux
07-26-2003, 05:49 PM
sounds as if the reg goes out of date from state of origin, and you are still assigned duty here then you'd need to reg. it here.

Not necessarily. I never had a problem renewing my tags while I was in. The pickup was registered in OK.

Hawaii was a different thing all together. The vehicle had to be registered there, no if's, and's or but's about it but every other post I stayed at on the mainland(3 states), I never had a hassle with the local law or MP's.

Big Rich
07-26-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Bubba Ray Boudreaux


Not necessarily. I never had a problem renewing my tags while I was in. The pickup was registered in OK.

Hawaii was a different thing all together. The vehicle had to be registered there, no if's, and's or but's about it but every other post I stayed at on the mainland(3 states), I never had a hassle with the local law or MP's.

I 'm not saying that your state of origin won't register the vehicle, I'm saying Cal sound like they want you to change states when registration is due if your still here.

Rich

Bubba Ray Boudreaux
07-26-2003, 06:56 PM
I'm saying Cal sound like they want buttrape you in registration and smog fees if there's a slim chance they can get it out of ya

Fixed it for ya:D :D

Sometimes it's hard to make head or tails of this crap when one doesn't have a Master's Degree in LegalizePhyschobabblePoliticalize....:D

elusiv
07-26-2003, 07:05 PM
thanks guys.. this all sounds good.
1. I believe the stroker will pass the smog test
2. I can install mudflaps to keep "THE LAW" off my tail.

even here I have been hassled about how far outside the flares my tires are.. but only once by an MP at the base gate.

...how much are smog fees?