Roxy, you are 100% correct it does take two. But guys can get very manipulative and we can get what we want if we play it right

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
Roxy, you are 100% correct it does take two. But guys can get very manipulative and we can get what we want if we play it right

oh yeah, girls are so stupid and helpless. they can't possibly keep their wits around a cunning man :rolleyes:

Sure it takes two, and certainly Offwhorer is not solely to blame...but he presented the opportunity, and if he choose to act with class, this would have otherwise been another boring day in chit-chat.

You can speculate that she would have done the same with somebody else, but it wasn't somebody else, and you knew she had a boyfriend.

Sorry, but I'm not going to sit back and condone this behavior; especially not in a society where social values are quickly disappearing for instant gratification.

Originally posted by bad80cj-7


I'm in the middle of a of a situation that was started by a peice of shit just like you! You are a Fawktard that deserves nothing in life and will rot in hell!

If you don't like my comment to Fawking bad!

You are a peice of shit!


:mad: :mad: :mad:

Just lay back in this chair, relax, and tell how me how you feel about the girl in this situation. Does she hold any responsibility or blame in this situation?

I don't get the whole "You fucker! You stole my girl! I'm gunna kill you!!! Arghhhh!!!" mentality. Just cut your losses. Move forward, and realize she is a tramp that would have eventually pulled your heart out of your chest with her bare hands anyway, driven her high heel through it, then kicked it down the gutter while you watched.

Seriously. I don't get it. How is it always the 'other guys' fault. :confused: I easily can see some intial anger, but reality should swing some of that anger towards your ex.

As you can tell by my post count I just don't post much, but this assholes arogance has got me Fawking pissed off. Offroad you act just like the same guy that has helped ruin my marriage. You are going to get hostility from me whether you like it or not Fawker! Did I mention you are a peice of shit that I scape from my shoe on occasion? Fawker.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Rip, trust me there is tons of hostility there towards the soon to be exwife. I just had a bad day of dealing with the guy that has been trying to sweed my wife off her feet. He is a tard period.

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
As you can tell by my post count I just don't post much, but this assholes arogance has got me Fawking pissed off. Offroad you act just like the same guy that has helped ruin my marriage. You are going to get hostility from me whether you like it or not Fawker! Did I mention you are a peice of shit that I scape from my shoe on occasion? Fawker.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

i really don't care but maybe we can help you work through some of your anger.

Possibly it would help for you to view the situation as a blessing in disguise like rip was suggesting rather than feeling sorry for yourself and angry at everyone else. You're better off without the bitch. This way you get a shot at true love.

-Steve

Originally posted by Rip DeLips
Seriously. I don't get it. How is it always the 'other guys' fault. :confused: I easily can see some intial anger, but reality should swing some of that anger towards your ex.

If you knew the woman was spoken for, even if she makes the first move, then you should have turned around and left the situation.

Just because the woman played a part in the infidelity does not excuse the guy's actions...and vice-versa.

You knew she had a boyfriend and you pursued her anyway...likely with the intentions of the actions you committed.


So what are you more proud of? That she dumped her man and you got the girl? Or that you planned this out and succeeded?
Don't hate the playa, hate the game? If it's a game to you, as the previous 10 pages seem to suggest, then enjoy your short-lived glory :rolleyes:

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
Roxy, you are 100% correct it does take two. But guys can get very manipulative and we can get what we want if we play it right

And the entire time you think you're manipulating us we're playing you like a fiddle! :laughing: Never underestimate a female! We let you think you've got the upper hand because thats what you want ;) :roxy:

I don't even no what to say right now. You are right I have tons of issues to deal with right now and I have been in your shoes and really am not one who shoud talk. I just happened to reqad the first part of your post and allowed myself to get Fawking irate. As for feeling sorry formyself , no I feel sorry for our child who is about to become 3 years old and wonders why he can't stay with me over night or why I can only see him certain days or why I can't come inside of his MiMi's house and play with him. Faaaaawk is right I'm pissed off and feel like I'm loosing it.


Steve

Originally posted by DieLucas!


If you knew the woman was spoken for, even if she makes the first move, then you should have turned around and left the situation.

Just because the woman played a part in the infidelity does not excuse the guy's actions...and vice-versa.

You knew she had a boyfriend and you pursued her anyway...likely with the intentions of the actions you committed.


So what are you more proud of? That she dumped her man and you got the girl? Or that you planned this out and succeeded?
Don't hate the playa, hate the game? If it's a game to you, as the previous 10 pages seem to suggest, then enjoy your short-lived glory :rolleyes:

I can see where you are coming from, honestly. But if I meet a girl that appears to be the 'perfect' one for me and I don't think she is meeting her happiness quotient, I may act on it. I could play the holier-than-thou bit, but I'd be lying to you. It's not like she's married...and marriage is a crock of shit these days anyway.

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
I don't even no what to say right now. You are right I have tons of issues to deal with right now and I have been in your shoes and really am not one who shoud talk. I just happened to reqad the first part of your post and allowed myself to get Fawking irate. As for feeling sorry formyself , no I feel sorry for our child who is about to become 3 years old and wonders why he can't stay with me over night or why I can only see him certain days or why I can't come inside of his MiMi's house and play with him. Faaaaawk is right I'm pissed off and feel like I'm loosing it.


Steve

nothin i can say except i'm genuinely sorry man, that is a truly fucked up situation. cheating is one thing, messing around is one thing, doing any of the above with kids involved is a whole different animal. Good luck! remember first priority is always the kid.

-Steve

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


and marriage is a crock of shit these days anyway.

I'm 25 and I've been married for 6 years. It sounds a lot like you lack maturity, common sense, and respect, both for others and yourself.

You are certainly looking to be a model citizen...the future of America (please tell me you are not planning on attending law school). If you cannot respect the commitment and devotion within others' relationships, married or not, then you certainly will not respect it in your own.

Originally posted by DieLucas!


\If you cannot respect the commitment and devotion within others' relationships, married or not, then you certainly will not respect it in your own.

can you please explain your logic here? i have had a string of absolutely great relationships. i have always parted ways amicably with my exes and am friends to different extents with all of them. How do you logically make the jump from my indifference towards other people to assuming i am incapable of a relationship myself? It seems like there is faulty logic somewhere.

-Steve

So what would you all have to say if out of all of this the chick became *the one* for Steve?? They fall madly in love and live happily ever after because she was his soul mate?? He's happy, she's happy...they're happy. Is is still an a$$hole then?? Why?? Because he found *the one*? Because she wasn't someone else's *one* and she knew that?? Everything happens for a reason people....good and bad...it all happens for a reason. :roxy:

Originally posted by offroadr35


can you please explain your logic here? i have had a string of absolutely great relationships. i have always parted ways amicably with my exes and am friends to different extents with all of them. How do you logically make the jump from my indifference towards other people to assuming i am incapable of a relationship myself? It seems like there is faulty logic somewhere.

-Steve

1) "Marriage is a crock of shit"

Uh...you don't appear to respect marriage

2) you knew she still had a boyfriend, yet you made a move on her anyway

YOU FLAT FAWKIN' DID NOT RESPECT THE FACT SHE WAS STILL IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER GUY... This disrespects her and it disrespects the other guy.


And I did not say you were not capable of a relationship. I said you will likely not respect either the commitment or the devotion put into your own relationships. Get it? Just because the relationships ended amicably does not mean chit. My parents' marriage ended amicably, but it does not excuse the fact they did not respect the commitment of their marriage.

She did not respect the commitment she made to her previous boyfriend, and you did not respect their relationship.

How long have you known her? Couldn't wait even another day? Dude, score! Have another beer. Circle jerk in the basement at midnight.

Sorry for my rant. I'm just going through what feels like hell right now and snap every so often when I read stuff like this. No hard feelings towards you. I just am frustrated with my situation and have no answer to why I'm in this situation in the first place.


and to you Roxy you statement is truly valid and understood, it is just hard to swollow!

Originally posted by Roxywheels
Is he still an a$$hole then?? Why??

For parading this escapade online.

If she turns out to be the woman for him, then great. I wish sucess to their relationship. But Steve's attitude throughout this thread, more so than his actions, mark him for a$$hole status.


[edit: Steve, if you don't get it yet, then show your new GF this thread. Would she be proud of the way you have portrayed *your relationship*?]

:shaking: So many vaginas...so little sand :laughing: :roxy:

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
Fawker! Did I mention you are a peice of shit that I scape from my shoe on occasion? Fawker.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

If he is like the Guy who stole your old lady he is scraping people like you off HIS shoes... worthless beta males.

Doug

Originally posted by Roxywheels
Everything happens for a reason people....good and bad...it all happens for a reason. :roxy:

I, Rip DeLips, the scourge of the earth, do hereby recognize and acknowledge this. :D

For the record...I have never cheated on a girl I was dating, nor ever will. However, if I find 'the one' for me and she's not married, it's fair game.

Originally posted by Roxywheels
:shaking: So many vaginas...so little sand :laughing: :roxy:

It would take a beachfull, Roxy ;)

Originally posted by DieLucas!


YOU FLAT FAWKIN' DID NOT RESPECT THE FACT SHE WAS STILL IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER GUY

we're beating a dead horse but basically my point is, why should i? no one has come up with an answer for this except for some bullshit man code. I personally think the guys who believe that they need a "man code" to protect them and their girlfriends are just chauvanistic and lack self confidence. I cannot see any other logic behind it. You should take pride in the fact that your girlfriend is with you out of her own free will, not because the man code makes her unapproachable. I could argue that it is those who rely on a crutch such as this unearned respect are the ones that don't respect the commitment.

-Steve

Originally posted by DieLucas!


For parading this escapade online.



just tryin to entertain y'all

Originally posted by Doug K


If he is like the Guy who stole your old lady he is scraping people like you off HIS shoes... worthless beta males.

Doug

Please elaborate as to why you felt like chimimng in?

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


I, Rip DeLips, the scourge of the earth, do hereby recognize and acknowledge this. :D

For the record...I have never cheated on a girl I was dating, nor ever will. However, if I find 'the one' for me and she's not married, it's fair game.

My ex cheated on me...he left and ended up marrying the chick he cheated with. I don't put all the blame on her...it took two of them and he went willingly. The only difference is he was married when she went after him. Oh well...its over and done with and he's with her now. Maybe she is the one for him. *shrug* If so then what he did to me was wrong, but justified. Everything happens for a reason ;) Personally I don't play in other peoples playground, but whats to say I wouldn't if I felt that person was *the one*? :roxy:

Because you are crying a fucking river to some third party guy you have ZERO power to influence. You are railing on him that he is worthless and is "Shoe scraping material".

I don't think either is true... in your relationship specifically: who got walked on? Who got left behind?

Take control of your life. Don't blame the mistakes you made the created an unhappy marriage on other people who are more dominant than you.

Besides... Offroader35's position isn't anything like yours... this girl wasn't married OR even engaged...

What a group of whiners.

Doug

Originally posted by DieLucas!


1) "Marriage is a crock of shit"

Uh...you don't appear to respect marriage

2) you knew she still had a boyfriend, yet you made a move on her anyway

YOU FLAT FAWKIN' DID NOT RESPECT THE FACT SHE WAS STILL IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER GUY... This disrespects her and it disrespects the other guy.




Woah there bud. I'm the one that said "Marriage is a crock of shit these days." Don't confuse me with that asshole Steve. :D

Seriously though, take a look at marriage in our society. It's a fucking joke. Me calling it a crock of shit in no way reflects my own personal view of marriage, just how I see it in this f'd up sorld we live in.

Steve,

respect would have been allowing her the opportunity to make her decision uninfluenced by romantic/physical entangles. Respect would have allowed her to dissolve her relationship independent of you.

Her ending her relationship depended on you. You were the catalyst.

Just because somebody adhere's to the (bullchit) man rule (it applies to anybody, male or female), does not lessen the respect in the relationship. It says they respect that either party will end the relationship when they see fit and pursue other opportunities.

How was your making out leading to their break-up any different than if you f*wked her, leading to their break-up (in principle)?


Roxy, send that skiploader over here...there's a whole @ssfull of sand to clean up :laughing: :D

Originally posted by Doug K
Because you are crying a fucking river to some third party guy you have ZERO power to influence. You are railing on him that he is worthless and is "Shoe scraping material".

I don't think either is true... in your relationship specifically: who got walked on? Who got left behind?

Take control of your life. Don't blame the mistakes you made the created an unhappy marriage on other people who are more dominant than you.

Besides... Offroader35's position isn't anything like yours... this girl wasn't married OR even engaged...

What a group of whiners.

Doug

Not trying whine nor cry a river and yes his situation is much different than mine. The only reason I posted is because I felt like beeing an ass about a subject that rings true to heart. So take this as you will. I had a bad day deal with it. It is the internet and yes I felt like telling a third party off, so fawking what. That was my choice and I felt good after typing it. If you don't like it go stradle a fawking cannon and get your fawking jollys! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


Woah there bud. I'm the one that said "Marriage is a crock of shit these days." Don't confuse me with that asshole Steve. :D
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Gotchya...I f'ed up...

for christ sake how many steve's are on this thread?

I'm a Steve

Originally posted by bad80cj-7

If you don't like it go stradle a fawking cannon and get your fawking jollys! :flipoff2:

been there... I need something bigger these days... the old rectum is getting a little loose. :flipoff2:

Doug

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
for christ sake how many steve's are on this thread?

I'm a Steve

OK, then I f'd up. I meant offrodr Steve. :D

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
for christ sake how many steve's are on this thread?

I'm a Steve

Stick to bad80cj-7 before we slap the shit out of you.

Originally posted by Doug K


been there... I need something bigger these days... the old rectum is getting a little loose. :flipoff2:

Doug

I could lend you some of my sand :laughing:

For the fawking love of all things........

This fawking thread, started by some goof named asshat35 is at 6 pages in one day and I'm sure I can safely assume that there has been no mention of Mormons in it.....

So asshat35 has gotten in with the chiquita from the Andes. Well whoopdefawkingdo Batman................

There's a saying about situations like this.....What goes around comes around and I would have to think you just painted the target on your back. Screw your crazy friends, probably nothing more than a bunch of pothead ricers who couldn't fight themselves out of a wet paper sack.................

It would be karmatic justice if this gal has the clap, the drips, clamydia, gonnorea, herpes and some other veneral diseases that the medical world hasn't discovered yet and fawking rides your johnson all night long so it rots off in a fawking week.....

Asshats like you that have no respect for other people and have sorely been cheated in the integrity department deserved to have their dicks rotted off cause they were unable to think with anything else.

You two sound like you deserve each other so you can cheat on each.....

bad80 it is! sorry for hijacking the thread! JUST HAD TO GET IT OUT OF MY SYSTEM! CARRY ON!:D

Ok, I haven't posted in a long time, but I had to give my $.02 in here. There are a lot of females that cheat on their boyfriends and they will not give up on subject of choice til he caves or introduces her to his boyfriend. And going out with someone is a lot different than being married to them. You can all get on your high horse if you want, but it don't change the fact that this girl was responsible for her own actions, Steve did not hold a gun to her head and make her cheat (at least not that I'm aware of) It takes 2 and blaming the other guy doesn't make it any easier.

enlightening, BubbaRay...do tell more...

Now it's time for popcorn or are you guys going to let the thread die? :D

Originally posted by Roxywheels


My ex cheated on me...he left and ended up marrying the chick he cheated with. I don't put all the blame on her...it took two of them and he went willingly. The only difference is he was married when she went after him. Oh well...its over and done with and he's with her now. Maybe she is the one for him. *shrug* If so then what he did to me was wrong, but justified. Everything happens for a reason ;) Personally I don't play in other peoples playground, but whats to say I wouldn't if I felt that person was *the one*? :roxy:

How much therapy did you require to get to this view? ;)

Originally posted by Wildfire
blaming the other guy doesn't make it any easier.


Oh hell yeah it does!

Plus beating down the other guy is more socially acceptable than beating down your ex-girlfriend.

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


Seriously though, take a look at marriage in our society. It's a fucking joke. [/B]


Not to everyone. There are plenty who respect marriage. They just don't seem to get the press as much as the ones who don't.

Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost


How much therapy did you require to get to this view? ;)

I dunno BG. Sounds pretty level headed to me. Damn good to know that there's still a few level headed folks around here and there. :D

Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost



Not to everyone. There are plenty who respect marriage. They just don't seem to get the press as much as the ones who don't.

I can't disagree there one bit. I know how I feel about marriage, and I doubt you would have any problem with it at all.

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


I dunno BG. Sounds pretty level headed to me. Damn good to know that there's still a few level headed folks around here and there. :D

Exactly my point. Which you missed it seems. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost



Not to everyone. There are plenty who respect marriage. They just don't seem to get the press as much as the ones who don't.

there are plenty of people who respect marriage, people like my parents. Which BTW when the first started seeing each other my Mom was engaged. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by DEnd


there are plenty of people who respect marriage, people like my parents. Which BTW when the first started seeing each other my Mom was engaged. :flipoff2:


LOL. Score one for the heathens. :D I wonder how it would have turned out if she had stayed with the other guy.

Originally posted by Roxywheels
So what would you all have to say if out of all of this the chick became *the one* for Steve?? They fall madly in love and live happily ever after because she was his soul mate?? He's happy, she's happy...they're happy. Is is still an a$$hole then?? Why?? Because he found *the one*? Because she wasn't someone else's *one* and she knew that?? Everything happens for a reason people....good and bad...it all happens for a reason. :roxy:

We're not saying anything about his future with this girl. At least I'm not. All I'm saying is that he could have easily gotten to the same result by taking a better, more honest road. And it may have taken him, like, whole week or so longer. BFD and you still have a lot more integrity for yourself and her.

I am NOT saying that you absolutely can't take a girl from someone. especially if she want's to be taken (or reverse the sexes and have the same scenario) I'm just saying that there are classier, more up front ways to do it and when someone tells me she has a boyfriend, I respect that commitment and still let her know that I'm interested. It's called planting the seed, then letting her decide if she wants to pursue it.

Does that sound rational? It sure makes ME feel better about myself and as stated in another post, I've gotten my share over the years.

Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost


How much therapy did you require to get to this view? ;)

None at all...some of us can figure things out on our own :roxy:

Originally posted by Rip DeLips



I wonder how it would have turned out if she had stayed with the other guy.

The world would have one less dreg of humanity in it. :flipoff2:

Hey, just show this thread to Steve's new girl.

If she turns around and blows him, then no harm no foul. They were meant for each other.

If she turns around and blows him off, then as Schly said (and maybe myself somewhere in there, too), there could have been a classier, more respectful way to go about this.


Whether or not you are proud of your actions, I certainly would not be proud of this thread.

Originally posted by Rip DeLips



LOL. Score one for the heathens. :D I wonder how it would have turned out if she had stayed with the other guy.

I'd have a bigger dick (he was an africian americian) :flipoff2:

thread hyjack!

So I have a scenero, I talked to my soon to be ex and she said she was going to buy our son a Gator for his Birthday. She said her mom and her dad were going to help her buy the Gator. So I asked how much it cost and she said she was going put up $100.00 and her mom would put up $100 and her dad was going to throw out $100. So I offer to help split with the $100 that she had to come up with. She said thanks, that is really nice of you. Well I get a call about a 30 minutes later saying that she had talked to her paqrent and they don't want me to do that, and please don't bother. It's not like I wanted to have my name on the card. I just wanted to help her out. I just don't know what the fawk to do anymore All I wanted to do was help get my son a cool birthday present. with no strings attached.

Steve

Buy your son a hooker. That'll show the ex.

That is a thought that has crossed my mind! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by DEnd


I'd have a bigger dick (he was an africian americian) :flipoff2:

Sounds like you're the one that got fucked. LOL :D

well there are two other possibilities:

1: I wouldn't be here

2: I'd uhhh... hmmm.... I dunno what #2 would be

Yep.

Show the Lima dame this thread. :D

Unless...

you're a pussy :flipoff2:

Originally posted by trampas
Yep.

Show the Lima dame this thread. :D

Unless...

you're a pussy :flipoff2:

As soon as she finds out, he doesn't have the testicular fortitude to:flipoff2:

Originally posted by DEnd


there are plenty of people who respect marriage, people like my parents. Which BTW when the first started seeing each other my Mom was engaged. :flipoff2:

ROFLMAO...just made me realize that when my dad met my mom 40+ years ago whe was dating another guy as well :D

I still think he has a littler pecker.



















:flipoff2:

Lets look at the facts.

1) Steve is in college

2) Neither Steve or the Goddess of Peru are married.


I ask all the morality police, what is the purpose of dating? Among other things, to see if you are compatible in the long term.
This girl was obviously unhappy in her relationship before Pimpyfresh came along.

She agreed to have lunch and kept agreeing to additional things as the envelope was mildly pushed. She ended up *necking* with the pimpster, felt it was wrong because of her bf and bailed. She then broke up with the bf and called pimpy.

Was Steve hard closing her/tightening the screws? It doesn't sound like it to me. Her bf was not making the grade, so she began shopping. I suspect that she had not made her mind *completely* up that it was over with the bf. She spent some time with Steve and felt like this guy was better and could possibly make the grade, so she dumped dood.

Is this not what dating is about? I mean there are no marriage vows, no children, and she did not risk bringing home the HIV to her bf. So WTF?

What does she owe the bf that is currently not working hard enough to keep her interested and happy?

I think that too many of you are forgetting what dating is like/about when you are young. ;)


*Edit looks like it time to renew my star :)

Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost


Interesting take. I think if I had been involved with someone for three years I wouldn't consider our arrangement just "dating".

I hear ya. However, after three years I would think that the dating would have evolved into something more (read engagement) or she or I would be down the road. Just a thought...


*Edit DieLucas got married in college because he felt he had the one.

no ring, no vowes, not living together? Just dating time is of no consiquence

Bottom line...any chick that has a wandering eye like that will continue to wander.

Hit it and send it back to Peru, but watch your back

I can't wait for the whore to start cheating on you. Now that will be funny.

Originally posted by offroadr35


man's code shman's code. he had first shot, he blew it, i picked up the slack. if he comes around here lookin for shit he'll get the beatdown of his life.

-Steve Bwahahahahaha, by you?!?!?!?! ,Hehehehe, you're a funny little guy.

Originally posted by Squanto
OK, here's how I see it:


All the guys w/ no game are the ones getting pissy and cryin foul. All the ones w/ game, are tellin him congrats.

:flipoff2: I think it's the other way around. If he had "game", he wouldn't need to bag another dude's chick. He can't find any normal single women, sohe has to take some mentally disturbed slut from another guy. He most likely did the other guy a favor.

Originally posted by ScottFJ40
He can't find any normal single women, sohe has to take some mentally disturbed slut from another guy. He most likely did the other guy a favor.

Oh, here we go... This was a college "dating " situation :rolleyes: .

How is she mentally disturbed because she was tired of her dude and the fact that they had been dating for 3 years and still no sign from him that he was interested in something more, like marriage?

Normal sinlgle women? Come on, Steve never mentioned she was wearing a ring. What is the purpose of dating?

Originally posted by 4RunnerGuy


Normal sinlgle women?

And in all honesty, is there REALLY such a thing?!?! ;) :flipoff2:

Originally posted by bad80cj-7
I don't even no what to say right now. You are right I have tons of issues to deal with right now and I have been in your shoes and really am not one who shoud talk. I just happened to reqad the first part of your post and allowed myself to get Fawking irate. As for feeling sorry formyself , no I feel sorry for our child who is about to become 3 years old and wonders why he can't stay with me over night or why I can only see him certain days or why I can't come inside of his MiMi's house and play with him. Faaaaawk is right I'm pissed off and feel like I'm loosing it.


Steve

Steve, I haven't read the rest of the thread, but wanted to respond. I've been where you are ... it sure ain't fun, but it does get better. Read what Roxie said again

Its funny how all the guys that are or have been in this situation blame the other guy. Once again...I will repeat. It takes two. If your woman didn't want the other guy all she had to do it say no. The problem isn't with the other guy...the problem was there before he came around. :roxy:

Thats the truth. My ex decided to move out to be with a guy who had BABYSAT for our (at the time) 9yo and 4yo boys! Left the kids and me to "find herself: :rolleyes: I spent a few sleepless nights walking the streets and even drove by his house once or twice late at night ;) But I came to realize it was about her .... and about me, had nothing to do with him. I wasn't perfect, but she showed her true colors. Thank god I stayed true to myself and my kids.

Now 4+ years later, I look at it as one of the best things to happen to me in many years. The kids live with me, I've got $$ in the bank since she no longer spends more than I made on worthless shit, the drama in my life has dropped 10 fold, our whole family is much healthier and happy. She on the other hand ... well karma is a bitch. She's fat and broke in a dead end job. The guy she left me for slapped her up, the guy she left him for hit her harder and put her in ER. I really hold no anomosity towards her, she seems happy with her current relationship and I really hope it works out for her. I just thank god I no longer have to deal with the drama.

I mention this so you know other people have gone through it and there is light at the end of the tunnel. Hang in there for another day, then another one .... time will give you some perspective and I'm willing to bet in the long run you will be stronger and better off. Even if she gets custody, you will get to spend substantial time with your boy .... unless you do something stupid. If you need it get someone to talk to ... employer health policies often will offset this.

Good Luck

Are there pics anywhere in the 300 pages of this?

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OK man here is my $.02
Here is what I see;
She was looking for an excuse to leave the BF and you were it.
She wanted to piss the BF off to get attention.
She is a fawking kid without a clue.
Either way man it can't turn out well for you.
Sorry this may have allready been said but I either had the time or the energy to read a 10 million post thread.
BTW what bar were you at?

reading all this crap made me sleepy, all i was gunna ask will she let you chinese finger cuff her yet?:emb: .. :barf:

Just remmber bros before hoes
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:bounce: :girly: :bounce2: ...call me donney...

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You are going to tell us if it's purple, Right?

















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