: Do all people cheat


SilverZuk
07-28-2003, 02:40 PM
Do you think that all people would cheat given the right circumstances?

I feel that 80 to 90% of people would cheat given the right circumstances. There are few in the world that have so much self-respect and integrity that they would not stoop to that level under any circumstances.

Examples:
Positive that your S.O. is cheating
or
Have the "perfect" opportunity (your in vegas and you just told a hottie that your name was Matt S)
or
A hottie is after you and now you have chance to hit
or
I'll make the chance and take it if I get it

Belly Dragger
07-28-2003, 02:45 PM
Anyone who says they wouldn't, if they thought they would get away with it, is a liar.

Anyone who never thinks about it is dead.

Human nature.

Travis Waldher
07-28-2003, 02:46 PM
Can only speak for me..

not a chance in hell. I couldn't live with myself.


now.. I'd be suprised.. if you get people that cheat.. to step up, post here, AND admit to it. ;)

offroadr35
07-28-2003, 02:48 PM
i know everyone is going to jump on me now, but i have never cheated and i never would, PERIOD. I have had plenty of situations when i knew i could 100% get away with it and it still hasnt' even been remotely appealing. At the end of the day you're the one you have to live with.

-Steve

EDIT: kind of weird to have my name as an option in a poll that i didn't even vote for :rolleyes:

SilverZuk
07-28-2003, 02:50 PM
The risks and losses are too great.
I never have and consider myself having too much self-respect to do so
but
I'm not saying that I was in a realtionship that had already gone south that it wouldn't happen.
Hoepfully, I'll never be in those shoes.

I've seen many good people, give up and go after another before the first relationship was "officially" done.

I've always been one to close one book, before I started reading another. However, some really want the security of going from to the other so they aren't alone.

Travis Waldher
07-28-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by offroadr35
i know everyone is going to jump on me now, but i have never cheated and i never would, PERIOD. I have had plenty of situations when i knew i could 100% get away with it and it still hasnt' even been remotely appealing. At the end of the day you're the one you have to live with.

-Steve

EDIT: kind of weird to have my name as an option in a poll that i didn't even vote for :rolleyes:

LOL... I was waiting for that. I knew SOMEONE would come in trying to rationalize their actions.

So.. when would YOU consider it cheating? only if you were the one with a GF? what if you are the *other guy* in someone elses relationship?

ChevyGal
07-28-2003, 02:55 PM
Nope, never would, never have.

AggieLR
07-28-2003, 02:56 PM
don't cheat, just call her right before ya hit it and tell her, then about 99% of the time the relationship would be over, but if your wantin to hit it w/ someone else, probably not a bad thing

Travis Waldher
07-28-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by SilverZuk

I've always been one to close one book, before I started reading another. However, some really want the security of going from to the other so they aren't alone.

Same here.. I've had teh opportunities to be the *other guy*, but never took it. I don't think I could live with myself if I did otherwise. ;)

(I would be lying if I said I didn't regret NOT doing that. part of me from time to time kicks myself.)

Kitty Cat
07-28-2003, 02:58 PM
I kissed a guy once and was seeing another guy (I was 16) I felt so horrible I promised myself I never do it again and never have and don't think about it.

Belly Dragger
07-28-2003, 02:58 PM
Well just for clarification, I too have been able to keep to the straight and narrow, mostly because of the consequnces and the simple fact of cheerishing what I have over a "fling".

I have come close though.

Now had it been Sandra Bullock ...... :evil:

79broncn
07-28-2003, 02:58 PM
Nope, under no circumstances.

Like the pup said, "At the end of the day, I'm the one who has
to live with myself."

rockota
07-28-2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by bbroncn
Nope, under no circumstances.

Like the pup said, "At the end of the day, I'm the one who has
to live with myself."

yup... and that's what it comes down to....

And for the record... i HAVE cheated. I was the other guy. They were already legally separated and the divorce papers were with the judge waiting to be signed. They hadn't lived together or seen each other in 6+ months... but... it was still cheating. And I will never forgive myself for that... I was young and stupid, but it doesn't matter.

I've had other opportunities to be the other guy as well and thankfully walked away. I have NEVER cheated on someone when I've been in a relationship.

Now.. let's define "cheating"... is it kissing? Cuddling? 2nd base? 3rd? Home-run? Oral? Wait - it's not oral... Clinton saw to that... :D :flipoff2:

ecrist
07-28-2003, 03:20 PM
What about this:

Lets say this (hypothetical) person is married but separated. The wife moved out to her own apartment. Now these two people are still legally married but have not lived together for almost two years.

So is it cheating if he gets a G/F? I know it is "technically" but is it REALLY cheating?

Belly Dragger
07-28-2003, 03:21 PM
If you have to clarify, it's cheating.

rockota
07-28-2003, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by ecrist
What about this:

Lets say this (hypothetical) person is married but separated. The wife moved out to her own apartment. Now these two people are still legally married but have not lived together for almost two years.

So is it cheating if he gets a G/F? I know it is "technically" but is it REALLY cheating?

Yes. Yes it is...

Lord Orange
07-28-2003, 03:31 PM
I have cheated before , I have been "the other guy" (she was married with 3 kids), I have had alot outside influences(:beer: ), and I told my girlfriend the day after on each one. I am still with here to this day, it has been 6 years.

I also went to Mexico, numerous times, and all my friends end up with hookers. I tell myself "that I have to much to loose, and don't want to come back with something". Have been to the Philippines same deal, didn't even get laid.

So I don't know how to answer your question because I guess it depends on the moment. But I will not trade my steak in to get 30% fat hamburger.

APRILRAZZ
07-28-2003, 03:38 PM
Never did. Could not betray someone even though I would have been justified in a few cases. Have been accused by the person wo was cheating on me to cover his own tracks. The chance came up a few times but could not lower myself to his level.

NCxj
07-28-2003, 03:49 PM
I have cheated...some of the girls i cheated with knew I had a girlfriend and some didn't. I learned my lesson finally and won't ever do it again. The feeling sucks...:(

440ex
07-28-2003, 03:56 PM
there is always someone out there that you are attracted too so why not ..i see alot of you wouldnt but i`ll be the one to step up nd be truthfull and say ya i cheated and would do probably do it again if she was hot :)

Buddha's Ghost
07-28-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Belly Dragger
Anyone who says they wouldn't, if they thought they would get away with it, is a liar.





I disagree. I've never cheated and never will. Why be with someone and fuck around. If you want to play the field stay single.

Mutt
07-28-2003, 04:25 PM
I will not cheat on a S.O. If it isn't working then I shouldn't be wasting my time. If a girl comes to me with a SO then i'll talk to her about things and keep in good until she moves on.

offroadr35
07-28-2003, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Travis Waldher


LOL... I was waiting for that. I knew SOMEONE would come in trying to rationalize their actions.

So.. when would YOU consider it cheating? only if you were the one with a GF? what if you are the *other guy* in someone elses relationship?

do i actually have to answer this question?? i thought my opinion was crystal clear by now...

Buddha's Ghost
07-28-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by offroadr35


do i actually have to answer this question?? i thought my opinion was crystal clear by now...



Whore.










That is all. :flipoff2:

Belly Dragger
07-28-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost
I disagree. I've never cheated and never will. Why be with someone and fuck around. If you want to play the field stay single. True, I've never cheated but I can't say I will never will cause I don't know what tomorrow brings. ;) I don't think we were talking about "playing the field" specifically but if that was the case your right why bother.

But what REALLY is cheating? Actually doing something, thinking about it, thinking about it while fantasizing.... Having sex with someone while thinking of someone else, masturbating while looking at naked other people???? A lot of different people have many different ideas of what cheating is. Most "normal" people think of cheating as an act of actually having ANY form of seks with someone else. But what about how you feel about someone. If you "give" yourself to someone else isn't that also cheating? Give meaning the way you deeply feel. Isn't deception also cheating? What about loyalyty and honesty, if you betray those isn't that also cheating?

norcaljeeper
07-28-2003, 04:34 PM
never cheated on a chick. butt i have been cheated on and been the other guy.as far as bieng the other guy i will not go get some broad drunk and take advantage of her butt if i meet someone and they want it then WTF? if i dont someone will.

p.s. to all you out there who get mad at the "other" person remember who your going out with and or who took vows.


p.s.s. it is an entirely different story if you are bieng the "other" guy by gettin her loaded or talking shitt to her about her ole man at a bad time and the list goes on.whatever in my opinion just dont chase it that is where respect issues come in to play.

also i will never get into a relationship with someone who was cheating on her ex.

usmcdoc14
07-28-2003, 05:00 PM
you dont have an answer avalable to me.

when i am in a monogamous relationship (ie:it has been agreed on with BOTH people none of this assuming crap)i am in a monogamous relationship, no if's and's or butt's


but on the other hand when i am not i most DEFINATLY am not :flipoff2: and i will not go "out of my way" to break up a relationship,nor do i ask if they are involved a lot of times.
and i will not build a commited relationship with a woman who left a man to be with me....
its only a matter of time before she leaves me for something else ;)

Screwzer
07-28-2003, 05:11 PM
But what REALLY is cheating? Actually doing something, thinking about it, thinking about it while fantasizing.... Having sex with someone while thinking of someone else, masturbating while looking at naked other people???? A lot of different people have many different ideas of what cheating is. Most "normal" people think of cheating as an act of actually having ANY form of seks with someone else. But what about how you feel about someone. If you "give" yourself to someone else isn't that also cheating? Give meaning the way you deeply feel. Isn't deception also cheating? What about loyalyty and honesty, if you betray those isn't that also cheating?

Nah.... that's just human nature. We all get the urge. Its what you do with it.

For the record, nope, not into cheatin' but the wife's offered to let me have a fling.... as long as she can watch.

So there's a new wrinkle, especially since I'm on my way to Amsterdam for a month..... with her.

What would YOU do?

Brick Wall
07-28-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Belly Dragger
If you have to clarify, it's cheating.

Exactly. My finacee (sp?) and I started dating a couple years ago. At the time she told me she was divorced cus her husband has dissapeared 5 years ago and never contacted her since. Two months later I found out that the divorce papers had never been signed by him so technically she was still married but separated. I immediately stopped dating her and waited for 13 months til the divorce went through. Then we dated again and got engaged...

If you even have to question whether its right or wrong then its not right...

SilverZuk
07-29-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Belly Dragger
But what REALLY is cheating?
thinking about it, thinking about it while fantasizing
masturbating

Uh oh,
we're all cheaters

TEX
07-29-2003, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by SilverZuk


Examples:
Positive that your S.O. is cheating



It wouldn't be cheating on my part since I would have thrown her ass out & called the whole thing off ;)


TEX

cruiserkitten70
07-29-2003, 07:29 AM
Been the "other woman", been the one doing the cheating...I never felt worse about myself then when in those situations...no matter the temptation I would never do it again..Karma..what goes around comes around and for me it did and it hurt. Not worth it..tempting but not worth it.

JEEP_TJ_FREAK
07-29-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by offroadr35
i know everyone is going to jump on me now, but i have never cheated and i never would, PERIOD. I have had plenty of situations when i knew i could 100% get away with it and it still hasnt' even been remotely appealing. At the end of the day you're the one you have to live with.

-Steve

EDIT: kind of weird to have my name as an option in a poll that i didn't even vote for :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Uhhh I'm pretty sure what occured on the first lunch is classified as cheating and I am pretty sure you were involved.

0ILBURNER
07-29-2003, 07:38 AM
If there is only one thing I have learned in my lifetime, sadly it is


Never say Never

Just Some Asshole
07-29-2003, 07:45 AM
nope, never have, never will. I gotta face myself in the mirror.

Lazarus401
07-29-2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
If there is only one thing I have learned in my lifetime, sadly it is


Never say Never

As long as there is a ring on my finger, I will remain faithful to my wife. We have two wonderful kids, and I think that no matter had bad it gets between us, that there is simply to much at stake. I spent 8 years in the Army. And there is a little saying "what goes TDY, stays TDY". In other words what I do while I am away, will never be found out. But, I dont agree with this. Being single is one world, and being married is another. I like the married life, and if I want to remain with my wife of 13 years, I better remain faithful. We both feel that once is all it takes, and the relationship is through. So neither of us are willing to put ourselves in that position.

Blaze86
07-29-2003, 07:52 AM
I'd never cheat on ym wife. Unless it was with my sis-in-law. It's ok if you keep it in the family right? :shaking:

0ILBURNER
07-29-2003, 07:58 AM
All I'm saying is you can not honestly say you will "NEVER" do anything.

It is not possible to - unless you can tell the future.

It would be like saying you would 'never' kill someone.
Under certain circumstances, you would ;)

Or saying your spouse would never cheat on you....

JParuBob
07-29-2003, 08:32 AM
I'm of the same mind as SilverZuk. I think at least better than 90% would cheat if the circumstances were correct.

As far as cheating, I've cheated on my gf (and now my wife). I don't regret doing the things I did (and the situations, etc will not be told), but I know I shouldn't have done them, and I DO regret that they hurt her.

And I still hear about it, almost 4 years later.