Pulling into the sports center to pick up my youngest son, i notice some other guy pulling up in HIS car to drop off his 5 year old girl at daycare. Just as i drive past his car window, i realise he's swilling down a beer!!

WTF?!?!? I park, grab some paper and a pen, walk back and get his license #. When he asks what i'm doing, i ask him if he's enjoying his beer, and ask him if his daughter is also enjoying have her dad drinking beer on the way to daycare! :mad: Also told him i was calling the PD!

I go back into the sports center, and call the PD. Give them his plate #, description, etc. Dunno if they caught up with him, but its was "interesting" he'd moved his car around the corner by the time i came out of the parking lot...

I just don't get it!

1) Drinking and driving.

2) While dropping off his daughter

3) ON FRONT OF A DAYCARE (where other kids are walking around)


He was begging me not to call the PD...........FAWK HIM!!! :mad:

What an asshat. Glad you called the Bobby's

Good way to end up in the hospital..I'd have planted your ass right where you stood with your fawking pen and paper.

Be careful out there...

http://membres.lycos.fr/ymca/villagepeople_vp2.jpg

I thought everyone wanted to be the (feather) Indian ?

Dispatch operator: "What makes you think he might be drinking and driving??"

Me: "Because he put it in neutral, put the brake on, and stuck a can of Stella in his face!!:rolleyes: "

http://www.boozeoffers.co.uk/acatalog/BestSellerstellacan.gif

Originally posted by TexasBlake

I thought everyone wanted to be the (feather) Indian ?

WTF are YOU doing in here?!?!? I though your hand would be too tired to type right now (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166156) !!! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
Good way to end up in the hospital..I'd have planted your ass right where you stood with your fawking pen and paper.

Be careful out there...

So if the DUI didn't land your stupid a$$ in jail, the ATTEMPTED assault would have, nice choice!! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
Good way to end up in the hospital..I'd have planted your ass right where you stood with your fawking pen and paper.

Be careful out there...



You are an ASSHAT. :mad3:

And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?

Bwwhwhqhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Please tell me you didn't just call Gary a bleeding heart liberal.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

If so, that just made the whole post worth reading.

Originally posted by Sully


Bwwhwhqhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Please tell me you didn't just call Gary a bleeding heart liberal.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

If so, that just made the whole post worth reading.

I can't believe I read that either.

Originally posted by Sully


Bwwhwhqhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Please tell me you didn't just call Gary a bleeding heart liberal.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

If so, that just made the whole post worth reading.


Don'tcha love newbies?!?!? ;) A constant source of entertainment!!! :D And for Dumba$$, inc. We all joke around in here, but the idea of some moron sucking down a cold one on his way to dropping his kid off at daycare will bring down a fairly consistant response on this board (ie: :nuke: ). That condemnation will, i imagine, be extended to any A$$HAT who tries to defend him, or his actions. :mad:

And yes, i've had several beers while in my rig. Back at camp, end of the day, too fawkin lazy to set up my campchair.

And as far as "bleeding heart liberal's"!!!! Oh, have YOU got a lot to learn about PBB :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

I'm not defending the guy, especially if he was drunk. I just feel that if you call the police on me simply because I have a beer in my hand you're asking for it. I may not necessarily be drunk. It might very well be my *first* beer. It could *also* be a non-alcoholic brew.
When I was in grade school kids that told on everyone were called 'tattle-tales' and got ridiculed, harassed, and beat up.

if you think that guy doesnt pose a problem you're wrong. hes likely an alcoholic. who the hell has a beer in the morning before they go to work? seriously, if hes dropping his kid off at daycare, hes on the way to work. probably starts his day with a couple of shots.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
I'm not defending the guy, especially if he was drunk.

Great. How is someone supposed to determine this. Maybe the fact that he was DRINKING AND DRIVING is an indication of his altered state??


I just feel that if you call the police on me simply because I have a beer in my hand you're asking for it. I may not necessarily be drunk. It might very well be my *first* beer. It could *also* be a non-alcoholic brew.

It's still illegal, it's still in front of a school zone, and it's still in front of children. Maybe that's not a problem?



When I was in grade school kids that told on everyone were called 'tattle-tales' and got ridiculed, harassed, and beat up.

When I was in high school, kids that would drink and drive wound up dead, and killed other people in the process. What do you think is the lesser of two evils?

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.

When I was in grade school kids that told on everyone were called 'tattle-tales' and got ridiculed, harassed, and beat up.

Most (not all, but most) of us, have graduated from grade school.


For what it's worth, I've had plenty of beers in my truck. I'll admit that on occasion I'm not above having a road soda on the way to a buddy's house. Hell, up till about three-four years ago, it was legal in AZ for anyone other than the driver to drink in a car.

But I sure as hell wouldn't do it with my, or anyone else's child in the car. I think that, and the fact that he was going to a daycare center, are what pushed this guy over the line.

It may have been his first beer. It may have been his 12th. It doesn't matter. The safety, and the impressionability of those children are what matters.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
I'm not defending the guy, especially if he was drunk. I just feel that if you call the police on me simply because I have a beer in my hand you're asking for it. I may not necessarily be drunk. It might very well be my *first* beer. It could *also* be a non-alcoholic brew.
When I was in grade school kids that told on everyone were called 'tattle-tales' and got ridiculed, harassed, and beat up.

Keep that in mind when some drunk hits a car full of kids or your family and kills them all. I am sure that is better then being a tattle tale right. I mean after all why not just take some fucking responsabilty and not drink and drive...

Originally posted by Sully


Most (not all, but most) of us, have graduated from grade school.


For what it's worth, I've had plenty of beers in my truck. I'll admit that on occasion I'm not above having a road soda on the way to a buddy's house. Hell, up till about three-four years ago, it was legal in AZ for anyone other than the driver to drink in a car.

But I sure as hell wouldn't do it with my, or anyone else's child in the car. I think that, and the fact that he was going to a daycare center, are what pushed this guy over the line.

It may have been his first beer. It may have been his 12th. It doesn't matter. The safety, and the impressionability of those children are what matters.

i dunno. i personally dont think the lives of children are any more valuable than the lives of adults. drinking on the road ANYWHERE at any time is un-acceptable. no matter who's around.

OK, for the hard of reading....

I actually posted a picture of the brand of beer he was drinking further up the thread!! Thats why i called the PD, because i realised it said "Stella Artois" on the can, not "Pepsi".

It COULD have been his 1st, or his 5th, or his 10th. I'm not interested in finding how many he's had (wouldn't want to "get my a$$ planted"....:rolleyes: ), there's people who do that for us, we call them the police (i get the impression you might refer to them as "pigs") IF the PD found him before he left the scene, and he was sober, no harm done (except maybe he'll think again about drinking beer on the road again!), if he is over the limit, serves him fawking right.

And you ARE defending him. Saying it's wrong to "tattle" on some moron because he's drinking and driving, means you respect his decision to do it.

Originally posted by Sully

The safety, and the impressionability of those children are what matters.

Again...I'm not condoning this guy's actions. If he was drunk then he should be busted, but by the fawking police. Each and every one of you would be absolutely pissed if someone turned you in because you were speeding...'tiz just as dangerous and makes a bad impression on the kids...bet you've sped with your kid in the car, too.


Either way...that's how it works in my world. Over in the UK it might be different...in Montana it's highly likely they'd never find your body. :D

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
I'm not defending the guy, especially if he was drunk. I just feel that if you call the police on me simply because I have a beer in my hand you're asking for it. I may not necessarily be drunk. It might very well be my *first* beer. It could *also* be a non-alcoholic brew.
When I was in grade school kids that told on everyone were called 'tattle-tales' and got ridiculed, harassed, and beat up.
(conversation with idiot in car)
dude you drunk?

nope


that your first beer?

yup

is that non -alchoholic?

yup

are you an alcholic?


nope


are you a child molester actualy drinking a beer can full of warm urine while sitting in front of the day care center?


nope



hmmmm your call is eather call the cops and let them handle it (open container in a vehicle is that not illegal somewhere?) or let him work on his buzz and kill someone.
i dont drink and drive, not even 1 fucking beer and then drive.i dont drink in my car nor do i allow ANYONE to drink in my vehicle.i actualy like owning my vehicle. I get shit faced and then find a way home via a non-drunk person.

if i was UK i would have called the cops or depending on my mood i would have pulled him out of his car and beat the living fuck out of him for putting MY childs life and others in danger :mad:

you go and have your one beer and i will buy your car when you lose your licence for it, hell i will even include a case of beer in the deal for it :flipoff2:

Wow!!

"Planting my A$$"

"Because i'm ASKING for it"

And now

"Never finding the body"


!!


Scary sh!t................:rolleyes:


And whats this crap about "he should be busted, but by the fawking police"!!

WTF, so a little vigilante action in front of all the schoolkids would be ok then?!?! Kick the drunkguys a$$........oops Sorry, i meant "plant his a$$", in sight of the whole school?!?!?

Crawl back into whatever cave (or trailerpark) you come from, you've not gained any friends here tonight. :shaking:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.


Again...I'm not condoning this guy's actions. If he was drunk then he should be busted, but by the fawking police. Each and every one of you would be absolutely pissed if someone turned you in because you were speeding...'tiz just as dangerous and makes a bad impression on the kids...bet you've sped with your kid in the car, too.


Either way...that's how it works in my world. Over in the UK it might be different...in Montana it's highly likely they'd never find your body. :D

Hey dumbass, he didn't try to stop the guy. He just took some publicly available info and called the PD.

Illegal is illegal is illegal. Doesn't fucking matter who calls the cops on me for anythign I do. If they catch me doing something illegal, then I deal with it. My choice, my problem.

If I catch a moron drinking and driving inmy daughters daycare parkinglot, I am parking my truck on tehir hood and calling the cops. I'll take ding for the "accident"

Originally posted by ukjeeper
Wow!!
Crawl back into whatever cave (or trailerpark) you come from, you not gained any friends here tonight. :shaking:

What makes you think I want a pussy like you as a friend? Get a grip...

Originally posted by Spaceman


THREAD HIJACK!!! : :D

Naw, it's a goof...

Right when I hit post, pirate locked up, gave me an error message.... I was like wtf when I hit the back button and saw it was missing. Guess maybe when I hit the back button I hit it one too many times and then thought I was posting a new topic... der... :D

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.


What makes you think I want a pussy like you as a friend? Get a grip...

Originally posted by ChevyCaGal


Naw, it's a goof...

Right when I hit post, pirate locked up, gave me an error message.... I was like wtf when I hit the back button and saw it was missing. Guess maybe when I hit the back button I hit it one too many times and then thought I was posting a new topic... der... :D

Well, in any case, my post is gone from the thread now :jester:

Originally posted by Spaceman


Well, in any case, my post is gone from the thread now :jester:

You could have left it. I am secure in knowing I am a doofus... :D

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?
Yes, I can fawking say that! Drinking alcohol has no place in a motorized vehicle (unless it's being transported, not being consumed), period.

ukjeeper, you did the right thing and I would have been just as horrified as you were had I witnessed that ridiculous act. What a fawking poor excuse for a father that guy is.:shaking:

Hey Damage... will you ever stop showing what a dumbfuck you are?:clown:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.


Again...I'm not condoning this guy's actions. If he was drunk then he should be busted, but by the fawking police. Each and every one of you would be absolutely pissed if someone turned you in because you were speeding...'tiz just as dangerous and makes a bad impression on the kids...bet you've sped with your kid in the car, too.


Either way...that's how it works in my world. Over in the UK it might be different...in Montana it's highly likely they'd never find your body. :D

You fucking retard. Some guy followed me to my office yesterday because I supposedly did something on the road that he didn't like. He spoke with our secretary and left before I even knew about it. He was wrong but regardless, she told me he was going to call the president of our company and the CHP on me.

Know what I said? Fine, let him. I wish I had had a chance to talk to him when he was here so I could have explained face to face how dangerous HE was being on the road without even realizing it but regardless, he has the right to complain to the police about me if he chooses.

When you complain about someone being unsafe or illegal, you turn them in. It's not tattling and it's not second grade where stealing your fucking crayons doesn't physically damage other families.

Grow up and realize that there IS a time and place to "tattle". :rolleyes:

I can't believe how many posts of yours are so backwards thinking. Who are you talking to that you are just taking their attitude about these things in a generic sense rather than thinking for yourself on a case by case basis? Idiot. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Izzynsane?
In Montana it is legal to have an open container in the car while driving as long as you are not drunk. Nice to have a cold one on the way down the hill from a day of skiing or out of the park after a day of rafting. Or for that matter anytime is a good time for a beer!! But that is only if you are outside the city limit.

My guess is the guy probably was a graveyard dude droppin the kid off and havin a cold one before he went home and crashed (daysleeper) but even if, no excuse to endanger kids. I don't know UK laws either. I just miss the legal beer while driving.:(

Actually, I'm pretty sure that even Montana has done away with this recently, just like AZ and CO did.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
I'm not defending the guy, especially if he was drunk. I just feel that if you call the police on me simply because I have a beer in my hand you're asking for it. I may not necessarily be drunk. It might very well be my *first* beer. It could *also* be a non-alcoholic brew.
When I was in grade school kids that told on everyone were called 'tattle-tales' and got ridiculed, harassed, and beat up.

Why is it that in every thread you insist on severly steping on your dick with that you say but then when we call you on it you back peddle and put your tale between you legs like a little girl. If you have a fawked up opinion at least be a man and stand behind it, I hope you join the band:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Pavemen
Illegal is illegal is illegal.


Can you restate that in terms that idiots can understand? I'm not sure that you've stated it simply enough.

That mentality just doesn't make it past my "what a dumbass" filters.

*Warning! Warning! Blanket Statement is commencing in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...*

If you can't make it from one place to another without drinking alcohol, then you have problems.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
Good way to end up in the hospital..I'd have planted your ass right where you stood with your fawking pen and paper.

Be careful out there...


Oh yeah, you're a moron. I forgot to mention this in the midst of my being a doofus...

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.


What makes you think I want a pussy like you as a friend? Get a grip...

damn missed that one the first time, threw, your a real winner arent you.....

Originally posted by ChevyCaGal
Oh yeah, you're a moron. I forgot to mention this in the midst of my being a doofus...
:laughing: Steph, you freaking crack me up!:goofball:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.


Again...I'm not condoning this guy's actions. If he was drunk then he should be busted, but by the fawking police. Each and every one of you would be absolutely pissed if someone turned you in because you were speeding...'tiz just as dangerous and makes a bad impression on the kids...bet you've sped with your kid in the car, too.


Either way...that's how it works in my world. Over in the UK it might be different...in Montana it's highly likely they'd never find your body. :D

You are a fawking idiotic moron of the highest order.

It'd be funnier than hell if ya got broadsided by some ole boy that blew a .20 BAC and then when you hit the spirit world, ole St. Peter asks ya what you are doing up there.

"Well Mr. St. Peter. I got broadsided by a drunk driver. I died, he got away unhurt."

"Well Dumbass, Inc." St. Peter says, "Sorry, no room for you here. It's called Karma and up here in Heaven, we don't reserve spaces for victims of Karmatic Justice. But I do hear that some ball tightening moderator has a place for ya in her special band....................."

Get it? Probably not.

Hey Damage,

Next time you pop a few beers and don't think twice about drinking....

Check out Jackie has to say about drunk drivers:

link (ftp://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot-info/pio/newsrel/campaign.pdf)

Tom :usa:

And if that's not enough for you Braindamage, Inc., here's one that happened 2 days ago about 10 miles from my home.

An 18 year old 2003 HS graduate is talking to her boyfriend whom she just dropped off when she is hit by a drunk driver going the wrong way on the highway and is OK and relays this to her boyfriend. Moments later, the boyfriend hears the screech and crash of a second, independent, drunk driver that hit and killed her.

Not worth the risk. (http://www.pressdemocrat.com/local/news/06fatal_b1empireb.html)

You come back and post when a family member or friend is killed or worse, permanently maimed by a drunk driver.

You guys crack me up...everything has to be personal to you...I don't really understand your need to call everyone 'idiot' or 'retard' all the time. I guess it makes you feel better about yourselves. But on that note, if you attack me, I'm likely to attack you back. I try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum, but like I said...
If you expect me to reply to what you have to say, don't be a dick and get all offensive....K?

Go back and RE-READ my FIRST post. What did it say? It said what I'd do in that situation and asked ukjeeper to be careful out there. That's IT. There's very fucking unfriendly people out there who might not respond very well to you telling them you just turned them in.

I don't recall condoning drinking and driving. I'm not sure where you guys got that....I really don't.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.

Go back and RE-READ my FIRST post. What did it say? It said what I'd do in that situation and asked ukjeeper to be careful out there. That's IT.

Well that and you would have tried to put him in the hospital and that you would have planted his ass right where he stood with his fawking pen and paper.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
It said what I'd do in that situation...


Yep...

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?

Then there was this. So how are you not condoning it?

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
I'm not defending the guy, especially if he was drunk. I just feel that if you call the police on me simply because I have a beer in my hand you're asking for it. I may not necessarily be drunk. It might very well be my *first* beer. It could *also* be a non-alcoholic brew.
When I was in grade school kids that told on everyone were called 'tattle-tales' and got ridiculed, harassed, and beat up.


Then this. Sure sounds like you're condoning it. And the fact is, YES I HAVE HAD A BEER WHILE I WAS DRIVING.

However,

1. I would NOT do it now. I've grown up and learned my lesson and paid some serious penalties for that foolishness.

2. It wasn't in front of my impressionable grade school kid and it CERTAINLY wasn't with him in the car with me.

Get it now?

That doesn't look like condoning. That asked if they'd never done it. If they can be condescending like that and say they've NEVER had a beer at the wheel...or hell, for that matter, went to dinner, had a glass of wine then drove home. That's called drinking and driving. If you condemn someone else for that act when you yourself have done it, that's called condescending.

Originally posted by Schly


Then there was this. So how are you not condoning it?

Actually I'm confused by how liberals would be against drinking in a car. Seems to be a rather conservative standpoint.

This of course leads me to believe that damage, inc is without clue.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
If you condemn someone else for that act when you yourself have done it, that's called condescending.

Well now you're demonstrating your lack of understanding of the english language.

con·de·scend
intr.v. con·de·scend·ed, con·de·scend·ing, con·de·scends

1. To descend to the level of one considered inferior; lower oneself. See Synonyms at stoop
2. To deal with people in a patronizingly superior manner.

What you're talking about is called hypocrisy.

hy·poc·ri·sy

n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

2.An act or instance of such falseness

Originally posted by eurobob

2. To deal with people in a patronizingly superior manner.


Nope...this is what I meant.

Hey y'all...I'm out for the night. Go beat up someone else! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.


Nope...this is what I meant.

It's not what you said.

If you condemn someone else for that act when you yourself have done it, that's called condescending.

Originally posted by Sully


Bwwhwhqhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Please tell me you didn't just call Gary a bleeding heart liberal.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

If so, that just made the whole post worth reading.


Sully, Brain Damaged post just about made me spit water all over the keyboard.
He's such a fawkin MORON. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
That doesn't look like condoning. That asked if they'd never done it. If they can be condescending like that and say they've NEVER had a beer at the wheel...or hell, for that matter, went to dinner, had a glass of wine then drove home. That's called drinking and driving. If you condemn someone else for that act when you yourself have done it, that's called condescending.

If I were doing it while I were being critical of someone else that was doing it, THEN I would be a hypocrite. In case I didn't make myself CLEAR, which is why I capialized it, because I don't WANT to come across as a hypocrite, the point was that I have been IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW for this very thing and the LAW WAS RIGHT and the person who complained was ALSO RIGHT. I WAS WRONG! Get it now?

So instead of learning from my post and attempting to understand my point of view, you sieze on the ONE thing that you think MIGHT support YOUR position?

Come on, I listed a couple other circumstances that were present in this situation. Did you choose to completely ignore them?

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?

hehaha Are you going to join the band? :flipoff2:

In Texas, the first shooting involving the holder of a concealed carry permit happened in Dallas. A man in a car was in a small fender bender in traffic. The car that hit him left the scene, and the man followed the other driver. A few blocks away on another road, the fleeing person stopped, and as the guy behind him was writing down his license plate, genius gets out of his car, walks back and asks the guy what he is doing. Guy says, "writing down your license plate since you hit me and kept going." Genius says, "No you're not," and proceeds to reach in the car and beat the first guy. Severely beat him. Beat him so hard that they later found out that the retina in one of his eyes had become detached.

Guy number one had a concealed carry permit. He also has his pistol with him. He draws his weapon and puts a round through the the guys heart. Second guy dies. He dies because he is so insanely fucking stupid that he attacks someone who is writing down his license plate for leaving the scene of an accident.


Damage, you're the fucking stupid one if you get out of your car to "plant someone" or whatever the hell your phrase was. It's a real good way to wind up dead. And do you think the person who shoots you is going to get in trouble? Probably not (unless the incident happens in California). Don't be a fucktard.

- eliot -

Tim, you did the right thing bro. Good awn you;)

Eh OK the dude was drinking a beer behind the wheel. Personally I don't give a fawk - I've done it many times. I used to put back a tallboy of Bud every day on my way home from work. No big deal. I drove mostly backwoods country roads anyhow.

I don't think driving around with a beer in hand and a kid in the car is the smartest maneuver but it isn't the end of the world either. Yeah he's breaking a law. Is he drunk? He might, so right there is enough cause for concern. Better he get arrested than someone killed by his lack of judgement. Most likely though he's having A beer and it doesn't mean shit.

I get more pissed about the morons with their kids not belted in driving down the road. THOSE are some serious tards.

Hef

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?


Yep, can honestly say that I have never drank alcohol in any vehicle I have owned. I would also say that assaulting someone for writing down your license plate number wouldn't be a very smart move either. There are a lot of things worth beating someone for and I don't think that is one of them.

As far as the drinking and driving goes, I would have done the same thing you did.

1. Having A beer while driving isnt smart.
2. Driving after drinking is stupid (no matter how little)
3. Driving drunk is asking for it.

Doing any of the above around children or a place where there are lots of children is really asking for it.

I would have called too. But in general I let people make stupid mistake and pay the price. Its not my business to tell people how to live.

Damn!! I knew i could count on you guys!! Thanks for the backup!! ;)

If the guy had been parked up somewhere by himself having a cold one, i would have just cruised on by and not cared. Its 90-100f over here this summer, a cold beer feels REAL good!

But when you add in the kid in the car, and he's driving it around a school zone, that changes things. I can't just see something like that and walk away. And i'm not going to go all vigilante and kick his a$$. Then you have to deal with an assault charge (maybe). Just get the PD over to do what they are paid (badly!) to do!

Fawk, i think i am going to have to finish my application and mail it!! ;)

Originally posted by Sully


Actually, I'm pretty sure that even Montana has done away with this recently, just like AZ and CO did.

They were forced to by the witholding of Federal highway funds. The exact device that everyone bitched about Clinton, when he used said to force Montana into a 75mph speed limit.

Originally posted by ukjeeper
Damn!! I knew i could count on you guys!! Thanks for the backup!! ;)

If the guy had been parked up somewhere by himself having a cold one, i would have just cruised on by and not cared. Its 90-100f over here this summer, a cold beer feels REAL good!

But when you add in the kid in the car, and he's driving it around a school zone, that changes things. I can't just see something like that and walk away. And i'm not going to go all vigilante and kick his a$$. Then you have to deal with an assault charge (maybe). Just get the PD over to do what they are paid (badly!) to do!

Fawk, i think i am going to have to finish my application and mail it!! ;)

Well, it's well known I don't like tattletales, but this is a little bit different situation than one discussed previously. This man's actions could have endangered you and yours. You're absolutely right to help enforce a law when the safety issue affects your right to live free.

You guys forget your rabies shots again this year??? Dayum!

Homey didn't say calling the cops was a bad idea, he merely pointed out that, if you so choose, make the call, but do it with some degree of stealth so as to not put yourself in harm's way.

I mean dayum people, you mean to tell me that confronting someone that you KNOW is drinking, and telling them that you are about to call the cops on them, is a good idea???

Things you know about the situation:
Dude is drinking a beer in his vehicle

Things you do NOT know about the situation:
Gun in the car?
Knife in the car?
Baseball bat in the car?
Psycopath in the car?
Is this a rationally thinking drinker or a violent drunk???

Calling the cops was the right thing to do obviously, but confronting the guy and telling him your intentions was about the dumbest thing to do, period. It was totally unecessary and could have gotten your ass in a very bad situation.

Originally posted by Entropy
That mentality just doesn't make it past my "what a dumbass" filters.

*Warning! Warning! Blanket Statement is commencing in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...*

If you can't make it from one place to another without drinking alcohol, then you have problems.

Listen at the time it was legal. Do you understand legal? Does that get through your thick petrified skull into you one track mind? That would be last summer that it still was legal. If they changed the law then I won't take advantage of the privilege next time I am home. Conforming to the law is one thing abusing it is quite another. In addition I don't really care what any of your opinions are. One 12 oz. beer in a 250# person (at least me) does not impair. If I wasn't breaking any law then it is none of your fuawking business what I am doing. If I am such a drunk why would I bother with beer? Wouldn't I be drinking slugs outta a bottle of rot gut Vodka?

As far as what the dude did well I think it is great. No business endangering kids or people in general. No business breaking a law either. And maybe if more people would stand up and blow the whistle the world wouldn't be such a shieety place. But until we get off the terminal and get out and put our money where our mouth is it will stay the same.

I have relatives in Wisconsin.....none of them are as ignorant as you. Someone drop you on your head or is it just too much cheese? Or maybe you spent to much time in Madison??

:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Rip DeLips
You guys forget your rabies shots again this year??? Dayum!

Homey didn't say calling the cops was a bad idea, he merely pointed out that, if you so choose, make the call, but do it with some degree of stealth so as to not put yourself in harm's way.

I mean dayum people, you mean to tell me that confronting someone that you KNOW is drinking, and telling them that you are about to call the cops on them, is a good idea???

Things you know about the situation:
Dude is drinking a beer in his vehicle

Things you do NOT know about the situation:
Gun in the car?
Knife in the car?
Baseball bat in the car?
Psycopath in the car?
Is this a rationally thinking drinker or a violent drunk???

Calling the cops was the right thing to do obviously, but confronting the guy and telling him your intentions was about the dumbest thing to do, period. It was totally unecessary and could have gotten your ass in a very bad situation.

Once PBB got rolling, didn't really matter what the guy was saying did it? :laughing: Course his fault for not staying on message, but I suspect we are in the presence of one who truly does not care. Cool. :D

Originally posted by rusted


Once PBB got rolling, didn't really matter what the guy was saying did it? :laughing:

Exactly. Rational thought processes...exit stage left. "Come awn boys! I'll get the rope!!!" :flipoff2:

Good for you, it's about time someone stood up for what is right and had the FUCKING BALLS to walk right up to the fucktard and get his plate. I swear I'm so sick of hearing :crybaby2: waaaaaaa you might be a little inconvienienced if you try to do the right thing :crybaby2:waaaaaa SHUT THE FUCK UP!! That's what's wrong with the world today, too many people fucking up and not enough people with the cojones to stand up and call their ass out on it!!! GOOD JOB ukjeeper!

The UK has a little different culture about drinking and driving than the US. Here, almost everyone's done it once or twice, and it's a no no, but not neccesarily the ultimate reproachful act. (Speaking in generalities.) In the UK, from what I've heard, this is like THE deadly sin. Plus, the penalties are comparatively much more stiff than they are in the US. So, in the context of the UK culture, bravo. Good job for turning the guy in.

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole
Good for you, it's about time someone stood up for what is right and had the FUCKING BALLS to walk right up to the fucktard and get his plate.

Dude, I've got the FUCKING BALLS, but I also have a FUCKING BRAIN that tells me unecessary confrontation might get my do-goodin' ass killed. :D

All I'm saying is be smart. Don't put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation unless there is absolutely no alternative. Ukjeeper could have gotten the same result without placing himself in danger, plain and simple.

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


Dude, I've got the FUCKING BALLS, but I also have a FUCKING BRAIN that tells me unecessary confrontation might get my do-goodin' ass killed. :D

All I'm saying is be smart. Don't put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation unless there is absolutely no alternative. Ukjeeper could have gotten the same result without placing himself in danger, plain and simple.

Maybe it's my backwoods, bucktoothed, redneck attitude but I say walk right up to the prick knock out his window, spit tabaccy juice in his left eye and tell him you're gonna sit on his drunk ass until the cops get there. It may not be the right approach but BY GOD I can say I did something about it! Too many people do nothing because it may cause them some aggravation or trouble, and that's why the drunks and the dopers are taking over the roads.

I was just going to get the plate and make the call, but he asked what i was doing. I think he thought i was private security booking him for parking on a double yellow line (same as a red zone). I certainly didn't go back there with the intent of confronting him.

Having said that, sometimes you HAVE to confront people who may not be thinking straight. Remember the drunka$$ who ploughed through a wall about a month ago (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164136) ?? He wanted me to winch his car off the wall, so he could leave before the cops showed up! Turned out he was 4 TIMES over the limit (a bit more than just "road soda"!!). Think i was going to let him leave?? FAWK NO!!

Could i live with myself knowing i'd let someone that drunk drive off and hit something else? Of course not.

Could i live with myself knowing this latest guy had dropped off his kid, and maybe creamed someone else later on?? See above.


It comes down to this, am i gonna watch a bad thing happen and walk away coz i don't wanna get involved, or because it might turn nasty??









Nope.

Originally posted by ukjeeper
I was just going to get the plate and make the call, but he asked what i was doing. I think he thought i was private security booking him for parking on a double yellow line (same as a red zone). I certainly didn't go back there with the intent of confronting him.

Having said that, sometimes you HAVE to confront people who may not be thinking straight. Remember the drunka$$ who ploughed through a wall about a month ago (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164136) ?? He wanted me to winch his car off the wall, so he could leave before the cops showed up! Turned out he was 4 TIMES over the limit (a bit more than just "road soda"!!). Think i was going to let him leave?? FAWK NO!!

Could i live with myself knowing i'd let someone that drunk drive off and hit something else? Of course not.

Could i live with myself knowing this latest guy had dropped off his kid, and maybe creamed someone else later on?? See above.


It comes down to this, am i gonna watch a bad thing happen and walk away coz i don't wanna get involved, or because it might turn nasty??









Nope.

BRAVO!!! If I had a cookie, I'd give it to ya!:D

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole


Maybe it's my backwoods, bucktoothed, redneck attitude but I say walk right up to the prick knock out his window, spit tabaccy juice in his left eye and tell him you're gonna sit on his drunk ass until the cops get there. It may not be the right approach but BY GOD I can say I did something about it! Too many people do nothing because it may cause them some aggravation or trouble, and that's why the drunks and the dopers are taking over the roads.

LOL. Point taken. :D

I guess my approach is a little different...but the results are the same and my identity and my safety are never compromised unless it is deemed absolutely necessary.

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


LOL. Point taken. :D

I guess my approach is a little different...but the results are the same and my identity and my safety are never compromised unless it is deemed absolutely necessary.

I guess my own personal safety took a few steps down the priority scale the day that beer-swilling jackass ran Mindy and I off the road and broke her leg. I will not tolerate an unfit driver if I see one, no matter what "danger" it puts me in. I wish someone had stopped him before he had the opportunity to sideswipe us.

Originally posted by Rip DeLips
...my identity and my safety are never compromised unless it is deemed absolutely necessary.

OK then, scenario for you. The guy walks over to you, close enough that when he does breathe on you, the stubble melts off your face from whatever he's been drinking! :eek: (Thats how it smelled a month ago!! :barf: ) You gonna get his keys, or are you gonna stand there while he drives off, think "phew, glad i didn't get involved in THAT"?!?!

Originally posted by ukjeeper


OK then, scenario for you. The guy walks over to you, close enough that when he does breathe on you, the stubble melts off your face from whatever he's been drinking! :eek: (Thats how it smelled a month ago!! :barf: ) You gonna get his keys, or are you gonna stand there while he drives off, think "phew, glad i didn't get involved in THAT"?!?!

Ok, I can't resist....

You're going to take your personal safety into account as well. What if it's 4 bikers? In the States, we have these guys that ride on Harleys, they're very large and they don't give a shit about taking off large sections of your face skin. You gonna get involved then? Of course you are right? :rolleyes:

There's a such thing as common sense.

You did the right thing. You're not a hero. You shoulda left it....

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
I don't really understand your need to call everyone 'idiot' or 'retard' all the time.

If you look closely, we generally only do that to people who are, in fact, behaving like an idiot or retard. Check it out!

:shaking:

BTW, for what its worth, my brother WAS almost at the end of a 3 year DUI ban when he got pulled over, 3 months left to go, and he's stupid enough to drive, UNinsured, UNlicensed, and with another cars tags on his car. Sentencing next month. He think he'll get a wrist slap, i think he's in for a shock (this is not his first ban!)

My brother in law refuses to allow him to drive his family, even when he still HAD a license, so do i. My brothers got heart of gold, but a liver of stone. I'll never trust him on the road. If i won't trust my own brother, you think i'm gonna trust some complete stranger with a can in his hand to share these streets??!!!

Originally posted by rusted


Ok, I can't resist....

You're going to take your personal safety into account as well. What if it's 4 bikers? In the States, we have these guys that ride on Harleys, they're very large and they don't give a shit about taking off large sections of your face skin. You gonna get involved then? Of course you are right? :rolleyes:

There's a such thing as common sense.

You did the right thing. You're not a hero. You shoulda left it....

You have "Bikers"?!?! In the States?!?!?!? WOW, i guess while i was living there for 12 years i must never have noticed!! :rolleyes:


:flipoff2: I'm fawking with ya. And of course i'm not gonna fawk with a situation like the one you just described. Different situation completely. One like that you get the plates REALLY QUIETLY!!, then leave. Get out of State, THEN call!! :D

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole


I guess my own personal safety took a few steps down the priority scale the day that beer-swilling jackass ran Mindy and I off the road and broke her leg. I will not tolerate an unfit driver if I see one, no matter what "danger" it puts me in. I wish someone had stopped him before he had the opportunity to sideswipe us.

I am well aware of this and understand how that weighs heavily on your opinion. ;)

Quick story, and why I am the way I am about this...

I turned 16, had a shitty car, with a kick ass stereo. :D One day I notice this drugged out, known to be violent dude checking my car out one day. The next day my stereo is gone. Me being the uppity youngun I was, I found out where this guy lived and went to confront him (at his parents house). Knock, knock...nobody home, but hey, the door is unlocked...so I enter.

I'm just looking around the place hoping to find just one little thing from my car that was missing. I walk into his room and find nothing, till I happen to hit 'eject' on the tape player...IT"S THE FUCKING TAPE THAT WAS IN MY STEREO WHEN IT WAS STOLEN!!!

I call him later, he brings me my shit back, but says he can't pay for the broken window or the destroyed dash. Mom calls the law. Kid vows to 'fucking kill me' and proceeds to follow me in public, show up at places looking for me, bangs on my parents door trying to get me to come out. We get restraining order but that's not necessarily going to save your life. This dude was absolutely NUTSO I tell ya.

Two weeks later, he hacks off a kids ear with a f'n machete, yeah, a f'n machete. He was swinging for the throat but the kid turned his head just in time. Thankfully, nutso was quickly subdued by some bystanders before he could kill the guy. This is the same dude that vowed to kill me, and knew where I lived. Lucky for me, he's probably still in jail for that and all the other shit he got busted for.

All I'm saying is use your head and be carefull out there. There are some first rate whackos out there, and you have no idea if the guy you are about to confront is one or not.

Originally posted by ukjeeper


You have "Bikers"?!?! In the States?!?!?!? WOW, i guess while i was living there for 12 years i must never have noticed!! :rolleyes:


:flipoff2: I'm fawking with ya. And of course i'm not gonna fawk with a situation like the one you just described. Different situation completely. One like that you get the plates REALLY QUIETLY!!, then leave. Get out of State, THEN call!! :D

Yeah yeah, I forgot. You guys actually have some pretty violent people there IIRC. Was warned in Bermuda on the way to England.... "They're fookin' sick!" :flipoff2:

Quote from Rip...........

All I'm saying is use your head and be carefull out there. There
are some first rate whackos out there, and you have no idea if the guy you are about to confront is one or not.


which sounds like what Damage said in his first post.................IF you are going to "play" police man you better be prepared for a eye to eye confrontation when you step in other peoples business.

I don't condone anything the drinking guy did and I might have said something to him or given him the "stink eye" but I would not have walked behind his car, got his tag number and then called the police.

to each his own
:)

If my application for the local PD goes through, i'll get paid to do this s**t!! :gulp:

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


I am well aware of this and understand how that weighs heavily on your opinion. ;)

Quick story, and why I am the way I am about this...

I turned 16, had a shitty car, with a kick ass stereo. :D One day I notice this drugged out, known to be violent dude checking my car out one day. The next day my stereo is gone. Me being the uppity youngun I was, I found out where this guy lived and went to confront him (at his parents house). Knock, knock...nobody home, but hey, the door is unlocked...so I enter.

I'm just looking around the place hoping to find just one little thing from my car that was missing. I walk into his room and find nothing, till I happen to hit 'eject' on the tape player...IT"S THE FUCKING TAPE THAT WAS IN MY STEREO WHEN IT WAS STOLEN!!!

I call him later, he brings me my shit back, but says he can't pay for the broken window or the destroyed dash. Mom calls the law. Kid vows to 'fucking kill me' and proceeds to follow me in public, show up at places looking for me, bangs on my parents door trying to get me to come out. We get restraining order but that's not necessarily going to save your life. This dude was absolutely NUTSO I tell ya.

Two weeks later, he hacks off a kids ear with a f'n machete, yeah, a f'n machete. He was swinging for the throat but the kid turned his head just in time. Thankfully, nutso was quickly subdued by some bystanders before he could kill the guy. This is the same dude that vowed to kill me, and knew where I lived. Lucky for me, he's probably still in jail for that and all the other shit he got busted for.

All I'm saying is use your head and be carefull out there. There are some first rate whackos out there, and you have no idea if the guy you are about to confront is one or not.

I totally understand your POV too, but aren't you glad that the "nutso was quickly subdued by some bystanders" what would have happened if no one had stepped in? He may have just decided to go for it and kill everyone he had a problem with while he was at it, ya know, just to make sure it was worth it. You may have not been here today if it weren't for them. Just something to keep you up tonight.:D

Originally posted by ukjeeper
If my application for the local PD goes through, i'll get paid to do this s**t!! :gulp:

Do they 'carry' there now? Or will you have only a stick?

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole


I totally understand your POV too, but aren't you glad that the "nutso was quickly subdued by some bystanders" what would have happened if no one had stepped in? He may have just decided to go for it and kill everyone he had a problem with while he was at it, ya know, just to make sure it was worth it. You may have not been here today if it weren't for them. Just something to keep you up tonight.:D

IMO, confrontation at that point is deemed absolutely necessary. :D

Dude, I can't even begin to explain the absolute fear for my life. I wouldn't go anywhere alone, and I always had some kind of gun near by wherever I was. That guy put the total mind fuck on me for sure. I was big healthy strong kid, but healthy strong is NO match for crazy. :D

We had a party the day nutso got locked up. ;) But to this day, I still keep an eye out...just in case.

Good job UKjeeper...I am personally responsible for nailing 3 fawkers that were INTOXICATED while driving...not just sipping a brew....and for ass-rammage inc.....you sir are a moron. You probably have a couple DUIs under your belt and drive a scooter to work huh....:flipoff2:



fawkin redneck moron.....

Originally posted by Izzynsane?


Listen at the time it was legal. Do you understand legal? Does that get through your thick petrified skull into you one track mind? That would be last summer that it still was legal. If they changed the law then I won't take advantage of the privilege next time I am home. Conforming to the law is one thing abusing it is quite another. In addition I don't really care what any of your opinions are. One 12 oz. beer in a 250# person (at least me) does not impair. If I wasn't breaking any law then it is none of your fuawking business what I am doing. If I am such a drunk why would I bother with beer? Wouldn't I be drinking slugs outta a bottle of rot gut Vodka?

As far as what the dude did well I think it is great. No business endangering kids or people in general. No business breaking a law either. And maybe if more people would stand up and blow the whistle the world wouldn't be such a shieety place. But until we get off the terminal and get out and put our money where our mouth is it will stay the same.

I have relatives in Wisconsin.....none of them are as ignorant as you. Someone drop you on your head or is it just too much cheese? Or maybe you spent to much time in Madison??

:flipoff2:

Well, the possibility of inbreeding in your family sure shows, regardless of their ignorance.

This is exactly why I made a blanket statement... because I knew some idiot like you would take it personally and assume I directed it at anyone in particular.

If you really didn't care about my opinion, then why the long spiel on it?

I never said anything about legality, you being a drunk, or that it would impair you. As a matter of fact, I don't think a beer could impair you anymore than your lack of intelligence does already.

Oh, and I am not from Wisconsin...

One last thing; There are only three dots (and on rare occasions four) in an ellipsis.

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?


Yes.

























Well, I do remember one incident, about 12 years ago, where I just installed my new Rockford Fosgate subs into my Regal, and a stoner friend and I chugged beers and discussed the finer points of why Queensryches "Operation Mindcrime" was the greatest album ever made, with the car stereo cranked to 11.



But... I didn't drive anywhere. And I still think the same about the album :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
And you're a bleeding-heart liberal bitch, I'm guessing. Have you never drank a beer in your car? Can you honestly say that?

Yes, I can.


Moron. :shaking:

Originally posted by ukjeeper
Wow!!

"Planting my A$$"

"Because i'm ASKING for it"

And now

"Never finding the body"


!!


Scary sh!t................:rolleyes:


And whats this crap about "he should be busted, but by the fawking police"!!

WTF, so a little vigilante action in front of all the schoolkids would be ok then?!?! Kick the drunkguys a$$........oops Sorry, i meant "plant his a$$", in sight of the whole school?!?!?

Crawl back into whatever cave (or trailerpark) you come from, you've not gained any friends here tonight. :shaking:




You know, that's considered a PC422 here, it's a terrorist threat and it's also a FELONY. :eek:

Just ask me how I know. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Desert Jeepin


You know, that's considered a PC422 here, it's a terrorist threat and it's also a FELONY. :eek:

Just ask me how I know. :rolleyes:

OK, how do you know??? :D

Originally posted by Hef

I get more pissed about the morons with their kids not belted in driving down the road. THOSE are some serious tards.

Hef

That's funny Hef, 'cuz I got called a fawking moron for calling in a guy that had his 1 year unbelted and climbing around in the back seat like a fawking circus monkey. This was apparently his RIGHT to do, and I was an asshole for calling 'the man' to have the government push it's rules and regulations on us, even though we don't agree with them. Apparently this is different somehow. I think it was even a few of the people here that are saying 'good job' to ukjeeper that busted my balls over the car seat issue. :shaking:


'Today I salute you Mr. calling the cops on a dude drinking and driving in front of a daycare center, dude!'


I have had a beer in a car, as a passenger, but I don't boogy down the road tipping one back while I drive. If I did, I and someone turned my in, then I deserve it. IMHO, we spend too much time with tunnel vision these days. We (humans) have people getting robbed right next to us, but do nothing about it but watch. Everyone is about 'me', not the collective 'us'. That sucks! Then we bitch that the cops do nothing. There are only so many of them. We also have a responsibility to police ourselves, and our neighborhoods. That stupid mentality is why neighborhoods have crack houses, etc. If the neighborhood members actually did something themselves instead of figuring 'They ain't hurtin me right now', Things would be a lot different in this country

Originally posted by Erich In AZ


That's funny Hef, 'cuz I got called a fawking moron for calling in a guy that had his 1 year unbelted and climbing around in the back seat like a fawking circus monkey. This was apparently his RIGHT to do, and I was an asshole for calling 'the man' to have the government push it's rules and regulations on us, even though we don't agree with them. Apparently this is different somehow. I think it was even a few of the people here that are saying 'good job' to ukjeeper that busted my balls over the car seat issue. :shaking:


Bullshit bullshit bullshit. :shaking:

You never got called a moron, but were congratulated. Seriously, I don't remember ANYONE calling you a moron, or giving you any shit whatsoever. *I* got a little crucified for starting out "mind your own business". And, since I can't remember anyone having the sack to stand up on my side, but only *kind* of say something, I KNOW you didn't get called moron because that's not how I play.

Let's remember this right now Erich, you didn't get martyred at all buddy. :D

Originally posted by Damage, Inc.
That doesn't look like condoning. That asked if they'd never done it. If they can be condescending like that and say they've NEVER had a beer at the wheel...or hell, for that matter, went to dinner, had a glass of wine then drove home. That's called drinking and driving. If you condemn someone else for that act when you yourself have done it, that's called condescending.

I have never had a glass of wine, or any other alcoholic beverage at dinner before driving home, and I have never had a beer or any other alcoholic beverage in my car, and I have never consumed any alcoholic or other judgement impairing substance before, while, or after driving.

I've seen folks driving with a beer in their hand. The last time, I had my passenger call the cops, while I followed the individual until dispatch talked the cruiser in. Then, I parked and gave a statement to the officer about what I saw.

Your attempt to accuse other members of this board of engagin in the same activity is an attempt to condone the activity and demonstrates to all your lack of common sense or conscience.

Originally posted by Erich In AZ


That's funny Hef, 'cuz I got called a fawking moron for calling in a guy that had his 1 year unbelted and climbing around in the back seat like a fawking circus monkey. This was apparently his RIGHT to do, and I was an asshole for calling 'the man' to have the government push it's rules and regulations on us, even though we don't agree with them. Apparently this is different somehow. I think it was even a few of the people here that are saying 'good job' to ukjeeper that busted my balls over the car seat issue. :shaking:


'Today I salute you Mr. calling the cops on a dude drinking and driving in front of a daycare center, dude!'


I have had a beer in a car, as a passenger, but I don't boogy down the road tipping one back while I drive. If I did, I and someone turned my in, then I deserve it. IMHO, we spend too much time with tunnel vision these days. We (humans) have people getting robbed right next to us, but do nothing about it but watch. Everyone is about 'me', not the collective 'us'. That sucks! Then we bitch that the cops do nothing. There are only so many of them. We also have a responsibility to police ourselves, and our neighborhoods. That stupid mentality is why neighborhoods have crack houses, etc. If the neighborhood members actually did something themselves instead of figuring 'They ain't hurtin me right now', Things would be a lot different in this country


You really do have a hero/martyr complex. That shit will get you in trouble.

The only people calling 'moron' were YOU and :roxy:, both on the safety seat side. :shaking:

The fact that you remember it the other way around is perfect illustration. Good job hero. :laughing: :flipoff2:

(don't take it too seriously now, I know your *type* does. ) :flipoff2:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139032&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by rusted


Bullshit bullshit bullshit. :shaking:

You never got called a moron, but were congratulated. Seriously, I don't remember ANYONE calling you a moron, or giving you any shit whatsoever. *I* got a little crucified for starting out "mind your own business". And, since I can't remember anyone having the sack to stand up on my side, but only *kind* of say something, I KNOW you didn't get called moron because that's not how I play.

Let's remember this right now Erich, you didn't get martyred at all buddy. :D

Here's the thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139032&highlight=car+seat

Yeah, you were all alone... with R O, Aaron t, Sothpaw, alx, and Matts agreeing. :rolleyes: :D

Originally posted by rusted



You really do have a hero/martyr complex. That shit will get you in trouble.

The only people calling 'moron' were YOU and :roxy:, both on the safety seat side. :shaking:

The fact that you remember it the other way around is perfect illustration. Good job hero. :laughing: :flipoff2:

(don't take it too seriously now, I know your *type* does. ) :flipoff2:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139032&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

I have a hero complex because I think we should care about what goes on around us, rather than just being selfish and thinking about me, me, me?

Uh, ok. I guess since you know all about my 'type' and who I am, you must be right. Funny I don't remember meeting you.

I'm interested to know if any of the others that have met me at meet and greet, etc also feel I have a 'hero/martyr complex'. :confused:

Originally posted by Erich In AZ


I have a hero complex because I think we should care about what goes on around us, rather than just being selfish and thinking about me, me, me?

Uh, ok. I guess since you know all about my 'type' and who I am, you must be right. Funny I don't remember meeting you.

I'm interested to know if any of the others that have met me at meet and greet, etc also feel I have a 'hero/martyr complex'. :confused:

C'mon now, I figured you could take a little ribbing. The thread is posted, I let what I said stand. I think you're a caring person who has the best intentions. You're simply wrong. :D

Yeah, a few did agree with me. Good thing I'm a great debater when I set my mind to it. OTOH, did you notice the pure moral OUTRAGE of my opposition (not including you,)? :laughing: I love to see that!

The bottom line is, you didn't get called moron or given any bullshit whatsoever. All the arguments against you were kept pretty straightforward except for one person's post. OTOH, the people against me got downright nasty. That's the point. ;)

Originally posted by rusted



You really do have a hero/martyr complex. That shit will get you in trouble.

The only people calling 'moron' were YOU and :roxy:, both on the safety seat side. :shaking:

The fact that you remember it the other way around is perfect illustration. Good job hero. :laughing: :flipoff2:

(don't take it too seriously now, I know your *type* does. ) :flipoff2:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139032&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

My moron call still stands...especially after your *hero* remark :roxy:

Originally posted by rusted


C'mon now, I figured you could take a little ribbing. The thread is posted, I let what I said stand. I think you're a caring person who has the best intentions. You're simply wrong. :D

Yeah, a few did agree with me. Good thing I'm a great debater when I set my mind to it. OTOH, did you notice the pure moral OUTRAGE of my opposition (not including you,)? :laughing: I love to see that!

and exactly who are you refering to?:confused:

Originally posted by Roxywheels


My moron call still stands...especially after your *hero* remark :roxy:

I didn't see where you called *me* a moron at all.

Originally posted by rusted


I didn't see where you called *me* a moron at all.


Not you, you aren't in this and what possible ego-inflating nuerosis would possibly indicate to you you were included?

Originally posted by rusted


I didn't see where you called *me* a moron at all.

Originally posted by rusted

The only people calling 'moron' were YOU and :roxy:, both on the safety seat side. :shaking:


You contradict yourself!

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Erich In AZ




You contradict yourself!

:rolleyes:


BWHAAHAHAAH.... uhhhh, ok. Good one! :laughing:

Originally posted by rusted

Not you, you aren't in this and what possible ego-inflating nuerosis would possibly indicate to you you were included?

pssst! You quoted yourself there :laughing:

Just trying to be a hero and help you out

Originally posted by Erich In AZ


pssst! You quoted yourself there :laughing:

Just trying to be a hero and help you out

Doh! :laughing:

Originally posted by Entropy


Well, the possibility of inbreeding in your family sure shows, regardless of their ignorance.

This is exactly why I made a blanket statement... because I knew some idiot like you would take it personally and assume I directed it at anyone in particular.

If you really didn't care about my opinion, then why the long spiel on it?

I never said anything about legality, you being a drunk, or that it would impair you. As a matter of fact, I don't think a beer could impair you anymore than your lack of intelligence does already.

Oh, and I am not from Wisconsin...

One last thing; There are only three dots (and on rare occasions four) in an ellipsis.

Actually my father is my mothers brother!!!!:flipoff2:

And after I was born they immediately gave me a bottle in front of me..... I mean frontal lobotomy.:flipoff2:

As for my lack of intelligence you could put that one on the NEA. But hey I get lots of money from wellfare to get by!!!!

Just think in a round about way you helped pay for my Jeep!!!!

I should thank you for that!!!:D

Originally posted by rusted

OTOH, the people against me got downright nasty. That's the point. ;)

Yeah, but you make it so easy. :flipoff2: