I am sure this has been covered before but I missed it. Who has run them, how much do they cost and where do you get them. Thanks.

I have them. They'll be about $150 when he releases the forged versions. Get them from CTM.

Now..... go and play with the Search feature! :flipoff2:

Paul

ah boys 5-760x is the joint to try before you spend 150$ -not to say jacks stuff is not the shit because it is- its a price thing- and the spl55-3x for the dana 60 is the new joint out - good luck-Jess

Thats funny because I was just going to call you tomarrow Jess and order some of thows new joints.

Jess,
what you chargin for a 5-760X,
is there a quantity discount being offered
do you have the full wrap snap rings for them, if not whats the part make/number for them?
thnx.
Craig.

Originally posted by nasvik
Now..... go and play with the Search feature! :flipoff2:

Paul

Paul is just confused about what he does.....
He searches for his feature, then goes and plays!

Im waiting for the CTM's according to H8 there unbreakable plus there suppost to have a 5-year warranty.

The 5-760x is just a replacement for the 297x - as in they will not make the 297x anymore, it is being phased out and replaced with the 760.
Second hand info I have - from a couple guys I trust who talked directly to Spicer guys - is that the strength increase is marginal at best, the 760 has better seals and bearings. They said a swap wasn't worth it unless you're about to pull the 297x you have anyway.

Originally posted by Rockbuggy
Im waiting for the CTM's according to H8 there unbreakable plus there suppost to have a 5-year warranty.

I called CTM and asked what was up with these. They are supposed to be rebuildable and nearly unbreakable. The problem right now is that they are too strong and axles are snapping right and left. Randy's R&P is supposed to be working on moly shafts for the D60 and until then they suggest to wait uless axle replace is a hobby or you own stock in a axle company:D

Originally posted by zakk


I called CTM and asked what was up with these. They are supposed to be rebuildable and nearly unbreakable. The problem right now is that they are too strong and axles are snapping right and left. Randy's R&P is supposed to be working on moly shafts for the D60 and until then they suggest to wait uless axle replace is a hobby or you own stock in a axle company:D

Hey Zakk, thats great and all but have you seen H8's rig? If he's getting away with a 5.0L, 38's and a Dana 44 CTM'ed with a really heavy foot and still no problems Im convinced. Im running a similiar setup but a 6cyl. not a 5.0L... Im going to go with the CTM's and Warn shafts. :D

Originally posted by Rockbuggy


Hey Zakk, thats great and all but have you seen H8's rig? If he's getting away with a 5.0L, 38's and a Dana 44 CTM'ed with a really heavy foot and still no problems Im convinced. Im running a similiar setup but a 6cyl. not a 5.0L... Im going to go with the CTM's and Warn shafts. :D

H8 is in what? a jeep? I imagine a strong U-joint willhelp heepers ALOT... heavier rigs like Eb's are prolly still gonna take it up the ass on the U-joint issue until they get a D60... not to say Iu won't try the CTm's I'm just not optimistic.

just my .02 but i would think it would be better for the u-joint to break than the axle. If CTM's joints are stronger than the axle then it wouldn't make much sense to change the joint. If you are using custom axle shafts then i would say it would be benificial,if not then more of a pain in the ass.

Originally posted by nasvik
I have them. They'll be about $150 when he releases the forged versions. Get them from CTM.

Paul

$150/pair or $150 each?

Originally posted by Brawler
just my .02 but i would think it would be better for the u-joint to break than the axle. If CTM's joints are stronger than the axle then it wouldn't make much sense to change the joint. If you are using custom axle shafts then i would say it would be benificial,if not then more of a pain in the ass.


You're supposed to run the better axles with jacks joints, I think the whole plan is to make the entire axle explosion proof not just the joint.

Those things are unexplodable!!!
ericfilar@fatcity

Originally posted by Jakesteramalamajama


$150/pair or $150 each?

each

why doesn't the hub break when you want it too:confused:

I havent broke one hub. Yet . Axles snap in two and no broken hubs. I'd much rather replace a hub. If I do end up forking out the money for the CTM's then that would prabably be the next weakest link. Carry lots of them.

Who has the best price on Warn shafts? Prices here in Kansas suck.

Originally posted by cj7jeep
Who has the best price on Warn shafts? Prices here in Kansas suck.


Drivetrain Warehouse, sells both sides, inners and outers with U joints, for $549, with free shipping and a "No Questions Asked" lifetime warranty.
Install a set of CTMs, and you have D44 axle assemblies that are very tough, and completely warranted

I saw the CTM joints in action in farmington's ARCA event. They worked great. It seems if your going to drive for 6, 8, or 12 hours to climb you don't want to break. So 150.00 sounds cheap to me to not waste all the money on a road trip w/ only a few climbs before you break.

I'm building the strongest D44 I can find, jus' ordered the new joints from Jes, but FYI, I jus put myself on the waiting list at randys for their new alloy axleshafts, and they are using Warn blanks, but cheaper (I think volume sale has a definite advantage!). So when, or if these break, in goes the new shafts, and I am debating buying these CTM joints. I drive to the trails alot, unless its a cross country thing, what about long term high mileage street wear?????

Ok flame away I am terrible at abbreviations so what is a CTM? I can see it is replacing the 297x from the discussion. I was interested in the 5-760s but if there is something stronger then I want to know.I would imagine the weak link being stub shafts or hubs if not the u joint.

Originally posted by jslamerman
what about long term high mileage street wear?????

This shouldn't be a problem if you have a 44 with lockouts. I don't know if these joints would wear as long as a 297-x/760-x in a D30 situation where either one ('95 YJ) or both (TJ and newer XJs) U-joints would be working full time...

In any case, it probably wouldn't be wise to use these with D30 axles anyhow because you'd just be snapping expensive axles instead of inexpensive U-joints. Even with Warn axles, I'd think that'd move the weak link to the R&P in a D30...:nuke:

Anybody have any specific information about this...?

Jake

SO when I get the money for Warn axles and CTM joints what will be my weak link in my Dana 44 ? I dont wanna break Ring and Pinions all day long and I would prefer not to break the exspensive Warn premium hubs also so If I do the above mods, Will my Dana 44 be un-breakable:skull: :confused:

Originally posted by jslamerman
what about long term high mileage street wear?????

Jacks been testing these joints for allmost 2 years, when he took them out for inspection they had less than 1/2 thousands wear.
ericfilar@fatcity

Get rid of those WARN hubs and get some Superwinch ones. The superwinch hubs are cheaper to buy, yea they are eaker, but they have a lfietime wannanty on them. Thisis the cheapest way to go. get 2 boxes, and when one breaks, put itin the box and send it back to the company, get a new set, and you have spares again. I think iti well worth it. I know when Ige the 44, I will do thisas well. CTM's and alloy shafts are the way to go.

Dimitri

Not only does jack have a great product purchased a set of billrt ones the other day but he is an excellent person to deal with as well. I feel like he will back his product 100%:D :D

Originally posted by Flatty
Get rid of those WARN hubs and get some Superwinch ones. The superwinch hubs are cheaper to buy, yea they are eaker, but they have a lfietime wannanty on them. Thisis the cheapest way to go. get 2 boxes, and when one breaks, put itin the box and send it back to the company, get a new set, and you have spares again. I think iti well worth it. I know when Ige the 44, I will do thisas well. CTM's and alloy shafts are the way to go.

Dimitri

the superwinch ones are weaker and yes they have a lifetime warranty so you can send them back. i had them on my old d44 front and i broke quite a few. they are easyier to replace than an axle or u-joint and like i said send them back and get a new set free!!! that is the best fuse is it not? if it breaks it is easy and free to replace!!!! :D

how mych are the superwinch's??? I migt jut have to invest in a two sets :D

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
SO when I get the money for Warn axles and CTM joints what will be my weak link in my Dana 44 ? I dont wanna break Ring and Pinions all day long and I would prefer not to break the exspensive Warn premium hubs also so If I do the above mods, Will my Dana 44 be un-breakable:skull: :confused:

Why not run some hub fuses in the Warns? This way you know what is going to break and it can be serviced in the field. And if you are worried about your locker, you have to realize that snapping a ujoint could take out a detroit (Warn is just covering their butt so they are not stuck buying lockers when shit breaks).