How can any city justify not having backup power generators to power the pumps that get water to the city?

If the power goes down, and there are several fires to put out, you would be totally fawked!

Unbelievable! :shaking:

just like bill richardson said this morning here. "the us is a wolrd superpower, with a 3rd world grid" Or something like that.

Originally posted by sceep
just like bill richardson said this morning here. "the us is a wolrd superpower, with a 3rd world grid" Or something like that.


Hype. India is a third world grid. About 90% of the people with electric available get it about 10% of the time. That's pure, utter, bullshit hype.

Originally posted by rusted



Hype. India is a third world grid. About 90% of the people with electric available get it about 10% of the time. That's pure, utter, bullshit hype.

Thats the truth. Was reading an article about the explosion of outsourcing to India. The call centers become mini-cities since they need reliable water, electricity, etc.

well i know around here that each well station has a diesel generatior or pump if the power goes out. pretty much ill i done get to use is the lights.

Drew

Simple.... I have a well, so I need electricity to run the pump! :)

Ya, you would think PUMPING stations would have back up generators.

Anyone remember the site that had a large reservoir of water at the top of the hill? It was used to GENERATE electricity in the afternoon during peak times, at night (low demand) they would PUMP the water back up the hill. Trying to remember the name of the generating station (So Cal?)

Tom :usa:

Originally posted by roundrocktom
Anyone remember the site that had a large reservoir of water at the top of the hill? It was used to GENERATE electricity in the afternoon during peak times, at night (low demand) they would PUMP the water back up the hill. Trying to remember the name of the generating station (So Cal?)

We have one of those here - Twin Lakes, south of Leadville, CO.
My dad worked on the water-wheel power plant.

Originally posted by Pavement Pounder83
well i know around here that each well station has a diesel generatior or pump if the power goes out. pretty much ill i done get to use is the lights.

Drew

They do that with a resivor somewhere in the north west. It's something right near the grand collee dam, but I forget what they call it.
~John

Originally posted by roundrocktom
Simple.... I have a well, so I need electricity to run the pump! :)

Ya, you would think PUMPING stations would have back up generators.

Anyone remember the site that had a large reservoir of water at the top of the hill? It was used to GENERATE electricity in the afternoon during peak times, at night (low demand) they would PUMP the water back up the hill. Trying to remember the name of the generating station (So Cal?)

Tom :usa:

I toured the one near Northfield, MA. Pretty cool :cool:

http://www.nu.com/northfield/default.asp

Atleast the right coasters had some sort of failure, here on the left side they do it for the fun of it, around contract time, with a bumble-fawk Gov. They wanna make sure we know how good we got it.

Originally posted by Joe_W


Thats the truth. Was reading an article about the explosion of outsourcing to India. The call centers become mini-cities since they need reliable water, electricity, etc.

Here's something the 3rd world had to say:

MANILA, Philippines — A blackout? What's the big deal?

That was the reaction from Southeast Asia to West Africa as people in developing countries wondered how something so common to them could bring a huge swath of the world's superpower to a grinding halt.

"Look at their response there in New York," popular radio commentator Joe Taruc wondered aloud in his Friday morning talk show in Manila. "If it happened here, it would be nothing out of the ordinary."

Hot weather, storms, rebel attacks, even giant schools of jellyfish have been known to send power grids crashing like dominoes in countries already struggling to keep up with rising electricity demand. But such periodic power outages have led people to find ways to cope.

In Liberia, once sub-Saharan Africa's richest nation, power has been out since 1992. (:eek: :eek: :eek: ) Factional fighting under Charles Taylor destroyed the hydroelectric plant, and it hasn't been fixed.

Iraqis, who have been enduring 120-degree heat largely without electricity as U.S. administrators struggle to get power back to pre-war levels, saw the North American outage as a bit of poetic justice.

"I hope it lasts for 20 years. Let them feel our suffering," George Ruweid, 27, playing cards with friends on a Baghdad sidewalk, said of the U.S. blackout.

"Blackouts are a part of our daily life. I can't understand why there is such panic in America," said Unal Karatas, 44, a pretzel vendor in Ankara, Turkey.

Virtually every public building of any size in the Philippines has a back-up generator, and companies often have battery-powered units that can keep their computers going when the electricity is out.

So as soon as Manila goes black, the lights start flickering back on. Shopping malls may be forced to cut back air conditioning, but the frappucino blenders at Starbucks keep whirring.

In the shantytown slums, residents bring out lanterns and candles. Traffic — which often ignores red lights anyway when police aren't in sight — continues its honking, cluttered pace with the lights out completely.

One of the strangest outages was in December 1999, when more than half of the Philippines' power supply was knocked out after an estimated 50 tons of jellyfish suddenly swam into a generating plant's cooling system.

Blackouts are a way of life in India, occurring several times a day over most of the country, particularly in the summer, when electricity demands are high for water pumps and fans.

When the power is out for a few hours, people just wait it out, going out to sleep on the roof at night, or trying to find shade during the day. When it's out for several days in poor areas, people sometimes burn tires and blockade streets to call attention to their plight.

After toppled transmission towers caused a huge blackout in 1999, Taiwan moved to reinforce power supplies islandwide. It took other precautions following the Sept. 11 terror attacks, including equipping key government offices with generators.



http://www.foxnews.com.edgesuite.net/story/0,2933,94876,00.html

Wasn't a big deal when I was a kid in N. WI when the power went out. I think it's just city folk.

Originally posted by Easy Bob
How can any city justify not having backup power generators to power the pumps that get water to the city?

If the power goes down, and there are several fires to put out, you would be totally fawked!

Unbelievable! :shaking:

Ironically enough, I just did a water supply study for the cleveland area for a fire protections system. They do have emergency power at there pumping stations, but it isn't capable of running all of there pumps. The specific area I looked at had water supplied from two seperate pumping stations, both located on seperate power grids, and both equiped with standby emergency power, problem is when all grids go down, the emergency power can only run about half the pumps. Wouldn't be a problem probably any other time of the year, but in the middle of august they just couldn't keep up.



Chad

Originally posted by rusted


So as soon as Manila goes black, the lights start flickering back on. Shopping malls may be forced to cut back air conditioning, but the frappucino blenders at Starbucks keep whirring.


Hmmm, the only thing I remember in PI when the power went out was drinking more mojo and beer.