: can anyone tell me what this is?


DSI
08-23-2003, 09:23 AM
we're having some dificulty figuring out what this shaft is/was

DSI
08-23-2003, 09:24 AM
but as you can see it's definatly shorter than it was in stock forum...

DSI
08-23-2003, 09:25 AM
something else we noticed is that a stock kick driveline slipyoke slides very nicely onto the piece that was removed :confused:

DSI
08-23-2003, 09:26 AM
and what's really strange, is that the same slip end fit's the shortened, resplined, re-hardened shaft... but what the heck could it be for :confused:

Rockrat
08-23-2003, 10:04 AM
Hmmm Toy output shaft???

this isnt as bling as yours but Im trying to figure out wher eit goes also
http://www.4play4wheelers.com/High_xmember1.jpg

zukikid
08-23-2003, 10:07 AM
ok i will guess...
making your own rock box from a track/kick transfer ?

zukikid

DSI
08-23-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Rockrat
Hmmm Toy output shaft???

this isnt as bling as yours but Im trying to figure out wher eit goes also
http://www.4play4wheelers.com/High_xmember1.jpg


nice red X


*edit* figures after i quote ya the damned thing works :laughing:


Hmmm, interesting lookin piece ;) i got's an idea what it's for too ;)

spencurai
08-23-2003, 11:40 AM
looks like a 231 shaft to me....but that is just because I just got doe with a SYE kit on my yj.

Goof
08-23-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Rockrat
Hmmm Toy output shaft???

this isnt as bling as yours but Im trying to figure out wher eit goes also
http://www.4play4wheelers.com/High_xmember1.jpg

It's a lawn chair, duh. :flipoff2:

It's sad that DSI has so much knowledge and yet can never figure out what stuff is. Isn't this the second time he's forgotten when he was making?

Rockrat
08-23-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by DSI



nice red X


*edit* figures after i quote ya the damned thing works :laughing:


Hmmm, interesting lookin piece ;) i got's an idea what it's for too ;)

Well I found out wher it goes :flipoff2:
http://www.4play4wheelers.com/Hix_installside6.jpg

CRO
08-23-2003, 01:35 PM
One of these?
http://ottindustries.com/kicker1sml.jpg

gordZuki
08-23-2003, 02:34 PM
ummmm sign me up for one please

wheelinjp
08-23-2003, 06:28 PM
Gee is that a new output shaft for a 700r4? Remember boys Dave is going auto w/ Atlas II

DSI
08-23-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by wheelinjp
Gee is that a new output shaft for a 700r4? Remember boys Dave is going auto w/ Atlas II

see sig line... 904 - atlas is a perfect fit ;) and why would a 26sp zuk slipyoke fit it???

DSI
08-23-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Goof


It's a lawn chair, duh. :flipoff2:

It's sad that DSI has so much knowledge and yet can never figure out what stuff is. Isn't this the second time he's forgotten when he was making?


i know... i think it has to do with part's flying out of the lathe and hitting me on the head :laughing:

DSI
08-23-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by CRO
One of these?
http://ottindustries.com/kicker1sml.jpg





it is not made by OTT, i did the machine work and had the shaft sent locally to be splined...

yager
08-25-2003, 12:59 PM
a shortened input shaft for a kick tranny ?

yager
08-26-2003, 01:19 PM
come on !!!!!!!! This has been killen me for the last 3 days to find out what your building !!!! Im not sure but i want one damn it !!!!

-mike

DSI
08-27-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by zukipuke
come on !!!!!!!! This has been killen me for the last 3 days to find out what your building !!!! Im not sure but i want one damn it !!!!

-mike


patience grasshoppa, patience... i've been building drivelines and carrier retaining can's the last few days so i haven't had time to assemble the project... well that and moto's been working on his tow rig all week!

DSI
08-30-2003, 10:25 AM
ok... time has come to finally post a few pics....


here she is kids...

DSI
08-30-2003, 10:26 AM
another angle...

it's approx 6 inches shorter, and will require a 3in tube on the jack shaft...

DSI
08-30-2003, 10:27 AM
and one last shot....

moto261
08-30-2003, 10:45 AM
looks good you take such good pix


now come get your fawking shit out my drive way :flipoff2:





:massey:

scwafish
08-30-2003, 12:36 PM
So for us stupid folks...what the fawk is that combo?

DSI
08-30-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by moto261
looks good you take such good pix


now come get your fawking shit out my drive way :flipoff2:





:massey:


my shit's not in your drivway, BITCH! :flipoff2:

DSI
08-30-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by scwafish
So for us stupid folks...what the fawk is that combo?


kick tranny & t-case shortened to fit into a zuk without needing to move the stock t-case or use a 2 piece shaft...


kinda cool huh :D

Madzooki
08-30-2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by DSI



kick tranny & t-case shortened to fit into a zuk without needing to move the stock t-case or use a 2 piece shaft...


kinda cool huh :D

Yes it is. How much to build one? PM me if necessary.

Paul

scwafish
08-31-2003, 07:34 AM
Hell ya thats cool! How long is/isnt the intermediate shaft? did it take much to get the kick tranny into the tunnel?

DSI
08-31-2003, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by scwafish
Hell ya thats cool! How long is/isnt the intermediate shaft? did it take much to get the kick tranny into the tunnel?


moto had the shoe horn and KY out when i left last night... so i will get the pic's today it didn't "look" like any of the tunnel was going to have to be removed, and we're looking at moving his zuk case forward since we have to replace the mounts anyhow to try to lengthen the rear DL and shorten the front some ;)

CTBrent
08-31-2003, 09:07 AM
So what is the end result for reduction? 2:1 in low...Is it the same concept as TT's rock block? Are you going to do them for anyone else?

DSI
08-31-2003, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by CTBrent
So what is the end result for reduction? 2:1 in low...Is it the same concept as TT's rock block? Are you going to do them for anyone else?


same concept as OTT's kicker i believe it's called... the TT unit keeps the stock sami tranny and ad's the block between it and the case.

stock kick reduction is 1.8:1, i believe the rock block is also a 1.8, i think it's mentioned in rudezuk's thread about when he installed it...


as far as making more? we've got a few items we've made now that are going to get some serious abuse before we even try to sell anything.

and being as moto's such an abusive :rolleyes: driver, i'm sure he'd be a great tester ;) he's been running a set of bobby long's sleeved and heat treated front u-joint's for a while now, and where stock spicer's have failed, these thing's just laugh...

GBRAVO
09-08-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by CTBrent
So what is the end result for reduction? 2:1 in low...Is it the same concept as TT's rock block? Are you going to do them for anyone else?

Good Job!

I am doing the same to fit my 4.16 t-case, so pls tell me:

Why you did not start the new splines from bearing sit ends if that splined is not usefull any longer?
How long are your new splines?
What heat treatment did you apply?
How long will be your driveshaft whit Samy Tcase on stock position?

DSI
09-08-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by GBRAVO

Why you did not start the new splines from bearing sit ends if that splined is not usefull any longer?

there was no need to remove them, wh take off the hardening and extra material that doesn't need to be taken off?


How long are your new splines?
What heat treatment did you apply?
How long will be your driveshaft whit Samy Tcase on stock position?

spline length? about the same as the origional splined section...

they are the same length as they would be if yo were using a stock sammi tranny and t-case, i don't really understand this question... we tried to push moto's zuk case forward since he had to built new mount's anyhow, since his ripped off the frame.

GBRAVO
09-08-2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by GBRAVO


Good Job!

I am doing the same to fit my 4.16 t-case, so pls tell me:

Why you did not start the new splines from bearing sit ends if that splined is not usefull any longer?
How long are your new splines?
What heat treatment did you apply?
How long will be your driveshaft whit Samy Tcase on stock position?

Did you heat treated before machine it (because is hardened from factory) and hardened it again?

I asked here to do it, and people told me that heat treat could change dimension of the axle, and bearings could not fit as tight as before, is that true? Even said the only way is to treat it un der Controlled Atmosphere :confused:

DSI
09-08-2003, 11:34 AM
no it did not get re-treated, for several reasons...

1st, if an axle shaft is re-splined, it loses it's factory heat treating and still takes a severe amount of abuse to break, and it is considerably farther down the drivetrain, and see's 4-5x the torque load that the output will, yet they don't fail very often...

2nd, a good heat treater locally :laughing: that's funny... the nearest one would be a serious drive or at least a week turn around via UPS

weedwacker
09-08-2003, 01:39 PM
Send the shaft to me tell me the material and I can have it treated. The company I work for treats and manufactures aircraft parts. Just tell how long and what temp.Sometimes the treatment can be tricky in that it might be a good idea to treat it in a manner that hardens the outside more so than in inside. That way you get the hard surface and ductility in the center. Only way to make sure of the treatment though is to sacrifice a few to a destructive test to check center hardness. Whatever the case if you send it to me I can have it done same day, only problem is I am on the east coast. But the price is right!

GBRAVO
09-12-2003, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by GBRAVO


Did you heat treated before machine it (because is hardened from factory) and hardened it again?

I asked here to do it, and people told me that heat treat could change dimension of the axle, and bearings could not fit as tight as before, is that true? Even said the only way is to treat it un der Controlled Atmosphere :confused:

And what machine did you use it to spline it? Here down are offering me two different methods; by Mill with the shaft un-heat treated and with Stones with thwe shaft hardened, what did you use?

gordZuki
01-11-2004, 12:43 PM
hey what's the status on these??

zookbrat
01-11-2004, 05:40 PM
very cool, wish i knew how to work a lathe-or a hammer for that matter!:D

Storm Trooper
01-12-2004, 03:11 AM
i dont see any of these getting built anytime soon:(

Gonzalo Bravo
02-26-2004, 08:03 AM
What machine did you use it to spline it? Here down are offering me two different methods; by Mill with the shaft un-heat treated and with Stones with thwe shaft hardened, what did you use?