Theft Prevention Idea

[an0iance]

If I am going to be parking a car that I've invested lots of money and time into, and if it won't go inside a garage all the time- maybe I want to park it outside for a bit- I'm going to padlock it down.

First, I'll have a bent in half 10' iron rod set into the concrete, shaped so only around 3" stick up, sort of like an upside down U.

Then the body of my vehicle will have a stucturally integral loop of steel or iron. If they take it out or take out what it's attached to, they just removed what's needed to make it run.

Insert a super super heavy plastic coated cable and ultimate padlock, and you have something that's not going anywhere fast.

Even if they pulled up with a trailer and stuff to lift it on, they'd have to deal with that setup. Oooo, and did I mention that the rod in the ground would be "wiggleable" around 1 cm, and when wiggled, sets off an alarm?

This would give me time to grab an assault weapon, race outside, and start dropping car thieves. (I hated that fast and the furious movie- I kept rooting for semi drivers)

[fullsize80cherokee]

your gonna bolt your rig to the concrete? :smokin: Are you paranoid about theifs that bad or do you live in the barrio? That is the funniest theft prevention related thing i've ever heard.

[an0iance]

I wouldn't say bolt it... I'd say securely attach it to something that's sunk into concrete.

This was the natural theft prevention idea that came into my mind after reading every single auto theft horror story on this forum- not only will my rig have thumbprint ID required to start, it'll have three threeway switches (can be bypassed by thumbprint), and some tricky fuses, and devious theft prevention setups for all the expensive parts.

Think about it- just weld a loop of steel into your frame, sink a loop of steel deeeeep into a concrete block in the ground in your driveway, and get one of those 3/4" thick cables and lock that mofo.

Then rig the loop in the ground to be moveable- but just a tad, so that when they wiggle it before they go to cut it, an alarm sounds. Electrifying the loop would work. It could be your 'battery charger' for legal purposes.

Then those thieves with forklifts and flatbed trucks would be oh so stymied.

[maxwell417]

:rolleyes: Escape from NY while you can still drive away :D . http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/machinegun.gif

[an0iance]

Stop clouding the issue- no one can come up with a way for a thief to steal a car protected by this very possible system.

:jeep:

[Benny]

Thumb Print Identification?

Dude, you watch way to much TV. Come back to reality....

[SeaBass44]

car theft is no laughing matter, but this guy is:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :rolleyes:

[Overbear]

thumb print.....:laughing:

Ok reality check for you. Want to know how simple it is to steal a truck.

1) run 10guage cable from positive battery terminal to coil, bump start truck...your gone.

now, if you want to slow them down. Not stop, your not gona stop someone who wants your truck. You can however get them fustrated enought to look for easer targets.

1) Ground switch. Same thing used on fire trucks and rigs. Turn the nob, and the ground is isolated. No ground = no power. I have mine mounted in a hiden place.

2) Fuel kill: quite simple, put in a fuel silinoid somewhere in line. Install the relay so that you must hold in a button as you turn the key to start the truck.

3) Good old standard motorcycle wheel lock: If you are super paranoid, run a motorcycle lock thru your rim, around your frame and around the tire or back thru the rim. Only way they can move it now, is to drag it.

[jekbrown]

as one facet of a theft prevention system, what do you guys think about making your tcase shifter removable? Shift it in neutral, twist the handle off and go. Make it so the part that stays attached to the tcase doesnt even extend into the cab. I dunno about your guy's np205s, but there is no way in hell you shift mine without the leverage the shifter provides. At any rate, this naturally wouldnt stop someone from dragging it onto a trailer... but driving it away would be a pita unless you could jerry rig something... which I dont think to many car theives do on the spot.. they wanna get it and go.

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[vb]

i have a tj and the steering wheel has a ujoint on the inside of the rig. i bought a long shank lock that goes through the joint and then i attach it to the brake rod above the peddle. darn hard to get cutters up in there and the theif will freek when the thing wont turn or stop. got a few more things too but.....

[Rocksurfer]

My torch will bypass your hoop, a quick cut on your vehicle and vola the gas from it won't even wiggle your concrete hoop either. If its worth it thier gonna take it.
:laughing: :idea: :laughing:

damn r key keeps stickin!

[coachgeo]

Hahahahahah..... funny

I look at my Unimog and just laugh. Poor thief will die of starvation before he can figure out how to steal it.

1. Battery cutt of switch. OEM and hidden
2. I got 7 levers between my seats. They may be able to get it in gear forward but not reverse, that takes a certain combination of gear levers to activate.
3. They wont even know how to start it. Diesel engine with seperate items to activate things like Glow plugs, starter, etc .
4. Kill switch that wont let the motor start.

[fractalman]

Um, all this fancy wild chit and no one even mentions a removable steering wheel.
Carthieves want something they can take fast with little or no trouble. Tools that fit in thier pockets to be inconspicuous is how most can be found. Very few but the bold or determined will tote around a steering wheel for any one particular car/truck/rig.

[FX4CRAWLER]

Thats what Lock grips are for, throw a couple of those babies on a steering wheel shaft and voila! instant steering wheel.

Here is my professional opinion, being a peace officer i hope i have one. Anybody with a slim jim can get into your car, so dont even try to stop that one. The best way to keep them from starting your car is to disable the battery and fuel.
And the best way to keep them from towing it away, is to put it in a place where it is impossible to get a truck or trailer near it.

[YotaBoy]

I depend on my alarm.......alarm goes off and I'm outside with 10 friends in one hand and another 10 in the other. I really hate thieves..had my shit stolen more than once.

[Plasm96]

How bout this FAWK car thieves. When it gets bad you have to use desperate measures, like the dark side!

[jekbrown]

i dunno if big channel locks would work on the grant steering wheel kit that fits on normal steering columns. they make 2 kinds, one that is sorta like a race car removable... it'd be easy to use pliers on it... the other one though, i dont think there is anything to lock onto (inside the cab anyway). could be wrong...

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[SR5Dave]

Originally posted by fractalman
Um, all this fancy wild chit and no one even mentions a removable steering wheel.
Carthieves want something they can take fast with little or no trouble. Tools that fit in thier pockets to be inconspicuous is how most can be found. Very few but the bold or determined will tote around a steering wheel for any one particular car/truck/rig.

I made one.

There is a thread in the toy section. Its really simple and uses some male-male pipe connectors and a bolt, the head of the bolt sticks just out over the steering wheel so you can turn it. You *might* be able to use vice grips. It'd be a b!tch though.

ITS NOT ABOUT MAKING YOUR TRUCK IMPOSSIBLE TO STEAL. THats a pretty tough deed. Its about making it more difficult to steal than the one down the street. Thieves arent going to light up torches, or rewire your ignition or bother with vice grips. They'er going to go for the car who always leaves its windows down and that the already have a key for (IE Toyotas where there are about 5 different shapes of keys and each one can pretty much be used on one with a similar shaped key.)

I've actually thought of what this guy (thread starter) said. I'd never say it though! :laughing:

[jeeper01ca]

Why don't you simply go with a satelite monitoring system, if the car/truck/Jeep/SUV running and without the key, it will set the alarm on with you and the central, but even if they tow it, there is an every 5 minutes signal being sent indicating where it is.

[toyboat]

NO no no, i got a better one, rig up a remote controlled pipe bomb with bits and pieces of all that shrapnal that you get from working on your rig. you can use an RC car controller and rig an ignitor from one of those gay ass toy rockets you see people playing with at the park. they are triggered by electrical current. when you push the joy stick up, you get a signal to the device that controls forward motion, in turn sends current to the fuse, and the theif gets an ass load full of what he is trying to steal, guaranteed to stop him dead in his trax! works great for people who live in the country, where the signal can travel farther. you can also mount the rc car antenna on you car for better reception. plus you wont have to deal with the thumb print id system :flipoff2:

[CMN2GTU]

Due to the fact that it would blow the ass out of the thief, resulting in thief ass all over your interior, and due to the fact that a pipe bomb would most likely level your ride or at least make it alot airier and roomier, I highly recommend your theft deterrent system to all Mercedes, Porsche, Lexus, BMW, and Volkswagen SUV owners.

[4X4Freak]

With the whole chaining the axle to the concrete idea it sounds good and all but what if they try to gun it and end up snapping your axle in half? Why dont you just take your axles in the house with you?

Why dont you just install a lethal injection needle on a raise lower system so if they get in it and the truck is hot wired it raises up and kills them as they try to start it. (just make sure you disarm your system before getting in)

All though I'ts not really a big deal to me becasue if some one was to try and steal my rig they would have to bring a ladder with them and the racket they would make getting in would give me time enough to get out there and deter them from their previous plans.

Keep thinging


4X4Freak

[CMN2GTU]

The problem really with any theft deterrent that is harmful or fatal is that you are then liable for damages to the same person commiting the crime.

Yeah you read right: if someone in the act of commiting a crime against your property is injured or killed, they or their survivors can go after you for damages.

[mutant-jimbo]

i think i will just buy a super fawkin' insane dog. doesn't matter what kind, just has to be viciously insane. then i will build a little doghouse in the back of my blazer. next i will make the viciously insane dog wear a bullit proof outfit made of the most futuristic materials. then i will dig a very very sdeep moat around said blazer with all kinds of barbed wire and pungie stakes, dipped in my own shit. next i will build a roofing system (so a helicoptor cant airlift it and the viciously insane dog out of there) on the roof i will station a dozen of my best men, well-trained and armed with semi-automatic assualt rifles and night vision. that ought to keep those assholes from my $1000 truck.

[CiskoKid]

Mutant, I have been reading alot on this forum, but didn't join until a few minutes ago. Your post has me ROTFLMAO. Keep em coming.:D

[HybridPOS]

LOL, just got my work truck broken into. have had several friends get their doors, bumpers, CB's, Antenna's, and winches stolen lately..... This time of year sucks!


As far as the remote pipe bomb thing goes, the RC remote won't do you much good if the car is much more than 100 yards away. The best way to make it work, is to use a Pager from one of the nationwide paging companies, get a nationwide frequency with the best coverage that you can find (I think you can find one for a pretty cheap price these days), remove the vibrator, put a "switch" in it's place and use the switch to ignite the starter (wether it's a RC jet engine or just an ignitor). And then you just sit and wait for it to pop up on the 10 O'clock news.......


Sorry ass theiving bastards!

[HybridPOS]

Oh, and I have been removing my coil wire ever since some dumb ass punks tried to steal my 67 fairlane....

Dumb ass kids tried to "POP" my ignition with a dent puller. Fucking retards weren't smart enough to reach behind the dash and pull the wires! I caught them the next time. Like you can't hear a 428 trying to start for almost a minute? Not only thieves, but stupid thieves...

[CiskoKid]

I like the idea of pulling the ignition coil wire. It would serve to frustrate the heck out of any would be thief.

[HybridPOS]

Originally posted by CiskoKid
I like the idea of pulling the ignition coil wire. It would serve to frustrate the heck out of any would be thief.

It works like a charm....

[RepoMan]

I will take your vehicle whether I can start it or not! Lots of newer vehicles cannot be started w/o the key. Besides calling in a tow truck, I simply throw a snatch strap on and drag the vehicle, usually only go about 5-10 miles to hide location and then call for a tow.
I rarely if ever get pulled over by cops doing this and telling them I am a repossessor will get them to send me on my way w/ no hassle from them everytime.

[toyboat]

you cant get too far without a head...and id blow your madafukehn head off son! Then id feed your panzy ass to my pitbull, chop ya up in parts an all, youd be doing your best to be inconspicuous so no one would ever know what ever happened to that kid malesting fag down the street, but me....

you think that the whole neighborhood is just going to sleep through the screech of tires all the way down the street?

[RepoMan]

Originally posted by toyboat
you cant get too far without a head...and id blow your madafukehn head off son! Then id feed your panzy ass to my pitbull, chop ya up in parts an all, youd be doing your best to be inconspicuous so no one would ever know what ever happened to that kid malesting fag down the street, but me....

you think that the whole neighborhood is just going to sleep through the screech of tires all the way down the street?

Well I gots me a pitt too!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201794

But I find mace works wonders on all types of dogs. My other partner is an ex marine chief sniper instructor youd be easy target practice:flipoff2:

[RepoMan]

Originally posted by toyboat

you think that the whole neighborhood is just going to sleep through the screech of tires all the way down the street?

Yes.:rolleyes:

Forgot to mention though that I do slam the ignition or simply break the locking pin so I can steer and get the vehicle in neutral.

...as such I personally have nevered dragged a vehicle w/ tires squelling however I have boosted many vehicles w/ the alarm siren going full blast and no one does anything. Its amazing how many alarm systems do nothing but just make noise? I had a tbird that had the alarm going off like a siren for 10minutes straight usually after a few minutes while driving they reset, not on this one so I pulled into a gas station to yank the wires out of the siren and their are 5 squads all lined up in front, not one cop came out to see what the noise was all about either.:flipoff2:

[HybridPOS]

Originally posted by RepoMan
I will take your vehicle whether I can start it or not! Lots of newer vehicles cannot be started w/o the key. Besides calling in a tow truck, I simply throw a snatch strap on and drag the vehicle, usually only go about 5-10 miles to hide location and then call for a tow.
I rarely if ever get pulled over by cops doing this and telling them I am a repossessor will get them to send me on my way w/ no hassle from them everytime.


betcha can't disable my remote pipebomb. You wouldn't even know it's there. On top of that, it's indipendant from the the vehicle's electrical system. I wake up and find out my shit's gone, better hope that you aren't within about 60 feet of that vehicle.....

[RepoMan]

Originally posted by HybridPOS



betcha can't disable my remote pipebomb. You wouldn't even know it's there. On top of that, it's indipendant from the the vehicle's electrical system. I wake up and find out my shit's gone, better hope that you aren't within about 60 feet of that vehicle.....


Have fun blowing yourself up:flipoff2:

Do you realize how stupid your idea is? :confused:

[nailhead]

Originally posted by toyboat
you cant get too far without a head...and id blow your madafukehn head off son! Then id feed your panzy ass to my pitbull, chop ya up in parts an all, youd be doing your best to be inconspicuous so no one would ever know what ever happened to that kid malesting fag down the street, but me....

you think that the whole neighborhood is just going to sleep through the screech of tires all the way down the street?

Dude, just make your car payment and he wont come get it:rolleyes:

[toyboat]

i dont have a car payment:flipoff2:

[azxjman]

Have any of you ever heard of a garage I have never heard of someone getting a vehicle stolen out of a garage although I am sure it has happend. Or even putting behind a gate for your backyard or do you people not even have a yard.

[robtech]

i caught a guy trying to break into my truck at the roseville galeria once...he was tryin to jimmy the lock and i ran up behind him and punched him in the back of the head as hard as i could...got a boxer's fracture from it but god it feels good caztching sumone tryin to steal your rig.

[Rockzar]

I like my buddies approach. He made a bracket out of 1"x1/2" steel. Its welded to the floor board at 90 degrees, and reinforced in the engine compartment. I dont know the exact length, but it comes out to an inch or so past the break pedal. He welded that to the floor board, pretty much parallel to the steering column. Drilled a hole in it and the break pedal. And uses a motor cycle disk brake lock to tie the break pedal and his bracket together. Works pretty good. There isnt any room to get bolt cutters around the lock. Makes the break pedal inoperable. He lives in San Francisco, which is a place where brakes are more necessary than the gas.

On my Cruiser, I have a cut off switch for the coil and fuel pump. The switch goes to two relays, since I dont want the current going through the switch. The thief can try to gaffle things in the Cruiser, but cant take the Cruiser itself.

Personally, I think that alarms are useless in suburban areas since no one listens to them. You could be getting murdered in a car with an alarm going off, and no one would even notice.

-Dustin

[lostone65]

The switch is locked up and hidden in my Tuffy console

Not anymore....:rolleyes:

[gna]

WOW just read this one :rolleyes: Go work on something out in the yard man...........

[RepoMan]

Originally posted by azxjman
Have any of you ever heard of a garage I have never heard of someone getting a vehicle stolen out of a garage although I am sure it has happend. Or even putting behind a gate for your backyard or do you people not even have a yard.


:rolleyes: Does anyone want to know how to break into garages?
I am not sure if I should even post the info here as its pretty scary how easy it is, I go into locked garages all the time to take vehicles, even attached ones ...and I break nothing to enter! Home invasions can be a rush!
I usually will not go into an attached garage but have on several occasions, mainly if someone pisses me off I will do whatever I have to get their vehicle which has involved me going into attached garages, also I have gone in an attached garage to take someones '96 corvette. Usually though the garages I go into are the ones in the back ally's in chicago. A chicago cop is gonna laugh at anyone who calls them to tell them the repoman took a car out of their garage, its a completly different story in some of the suburbs though, thats why those break-ins don't get reported to the police I just snag those vehicles w/o filing. No need in chicago to file until after the vehicle is taken in the suburbs though you must usually file before you take the vehicle, not a good idea to file on a home invasion though:D

[toyboat]

repofucker your gay :rolleyes:

[azxjman]

I would be very very suprised if you could break into my garage and it is attached. How could you possibly get through a steel door without breaking something or going all the way throught the house.

[Mohadeab]

And if I caught you in my garage, you would be dead. I bet you don't wear a big ol coat that says REPO MAN on it so people know what you are doing, naw, that would be to smart. Get a search warrant to get into the garages, then you wouldn't have a chance on getting killed. But you can't do that can you? Worthless ass, working to take back cars that they got ripped off in the first place from the stealership. Especially in these economic times where people are loosing their jobs left and right, and then you come by and take thier only means of transpo to look for another job. I bet you just love making people's lives more misearable.

[RepoMan]

Originally posted by Mohadeab
And if I caught you in my garage, you would be dead. I bet you don't wear a big ol coat that says REPO MAN on it so people know what you are doing, naw, that would be to smart. Get a search warrant to get into the garages, then you wouldn't have a chance on getting killed. But you can't do that can you? Worthless ass, working to take back cars that they got ripped off in the first place from the stealership. Especially in these economic times where people are loosing their jobs left and right, and then you come by and take thier only means of transpo to look for another job. I bet you just love making people's lives more misearable.

Hahaha, you make me laugh. I bet you are one of those deadbeats that don't pay your bills. A bank does not care if you are late in payments they will work w/ all debtors. What happens is people just ignore the banks calls and letters demanding the vehicle be paid for. Yes I love taking cars away from scum like you who thinks that they own the car even though they have a loan on it. I bet you think bankruptcy is a good thing as its free money. Its ok for people not to pay their car bill and keep the car? Thats theft and thats exactly what this forum is for to avoid theft thats why I am posting here to help others from theives like you, it does not matter if you are stealing from a bank or an individual its theft.

As far as the danger, chicago is number 1 in murders in this country hell yeah its dangerous! And if I have no problem going into the ghettos of chicago I have no problems breaking into the garage of a low life deadbeats to take back the banks vehicles.

[azxjman]

I kind of agree with you repo man I think it would be an exciting job to be a repo man. If people cant afford a new car then dont buy a new one yes the stealerships are a rip off so dont buy there. On the other hand I do feel bad because I am not heartless. Why should I have to pay my bills if someone else doesnt thats not fare!!

[Blk69stang]

:shaking: I realize the need for repomen to exist.... yes there are deadbeats out there who are screwing the bank (and driving my interest rates up in the process) who deserve to have their rides ganked.

BUT, it pisses me off when dipshits like this "RepoMan" go around thinking they are above the law. Dude, I am all for you doing your job, but if you illegally break into someones place to repo their car, I'm sorry, but I hope they cap your ass.

Have a nice day. :D

[RepoMan]

Originally posted by Blk69stang
:BUT, it pisses me off when dipshits like this "RepoMan" go around thinking they are above the law. Dude, I am all for you doing your job, but if you illegally break into someones place to repo their car, I'm sorry, but I hope they cap your ass.

Have a nice day. :D

I know I break the law when I go into someones garage. Its tresspassing clean and simple, and yes I know I can get shot. Most people tend to think its stupid to do things where you risk yout life, well I get a thrill out of it-is that being a dipshit:D I guess I would agree with your thinking although I think dipshit is a bit harsh. But screw it, it's fun!:flipoff2: And I have been laid off twice in the last 3years and this job pays the bill nicely in the meantime.

As far as thinking I am above the law though, cops show a great deal of respect to most repossessors and they often break the law themselves to assist. So yeah I do know I am above the law when I have a cop assisting me in a civil matter.:flipoff2: