Just wondering if any of you guys are pulling a 25ft gooseneck trailer or fifth wheel flat bed with two rigs on it. I am thinking of pulling two cruisers or a cruiser and a toy pickup. The vehicle combination would weigh about 8,000-10,000 not including a trailer. Wondering if a dodge Cummins could handle this and would you be able to do it with a 2500 or 3500 or 3500 dually. Thanks.

The CTD will handle it, don't know if 25 feet will be enough for a cruiser and a toy pickup. Also you want to make sure you dont' exceed the trailer limit. CHP likes to stop and inspect.

You'll need a CDL for this setup.

You only need the CDL if the trailer is rated 10,000 lbs or more. All the CHP and NHP i have dealt with only looked to see what the tires were rated at. I hauled 2 Broncos on a gooseneck that the deck was 28 ft and it was a perfect fit. I was pulling with a F250 PSD.

Yes, no problem... been pulling a 28ft highdeck with 2 jeeps, 01 Dodge 2500 CTD automatic for a couple of years. 25ft is gonna be pretty tight for 2 rigs.

Originally posted by smurfsdad
You only need the CDL if the trailer is rated 10,000 lbs or more. .

I was told by a CHP that it only applies if you are hauling for money.

was told by a CHP that it only applies if you are hauling for money.

I'm not sure about Kali, but every east coast state I've researched required a class A CDL when the trailer was rated over 10K lbs. The only exception to this is RV's.

Just wondering if any of you guys are pulling a 25ft gooseneck trailer or fifth wheel flat bed with two rigs on it

CJ Lagos seems to be doing OK!!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1827206

I have a 28 foot goose. Better check your lengths. With my 24 inch bobbed 4runner and a shortbed pickup there's not much room left. And I have 3 extra feet.

Originally posted by jp junkie


I was told by a CHP that it only applies if you are hauling for money.

He was wrong. It doesn't matter.

Originally posted by smurfsdad
You only need the CDL if the trailer is rated 10,000 lbs or more. All the CHP and NHP i have dealt with only looked to see what the tires were rated at. I hauled 2 Broncos on a gooseneck that the deck was 28 ft and it was a perfect fit. I was pulling with a F250 PSD.

Here's a link to a flow chart I ran across to determine if a CDL is required and what class....

http://www.aamva.org/Documents/drvcdlflowchart.pdf

The FIRST question

Is the POWER UNIT GCWR 26,001 lbs or more ......

If the answer is no it shoots you down to a Hazardous Material question then a 16passenger question then to "No CDL required"

Originally posted by zachv


CJ Lagos seems to be doing OK!!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1827206


Try READING the info in the post where you grabbed the photo!!!
You just can't "look at the pictures"

He plainly states he's running a 30ft Deckover trailer

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166534

No two cops will give you the same answer. I have a CDL so i dont worry about it.

Originally posted by tators
[Try READING the info in the post where you grabbed the photo!!!
You just can't "look at the pictures"

He plainly states he's running a 30ft Deckover trailer


Dude, WTF is up your arse??:confused:

Maybe try explaining the difference between a "deckover" and a gooseneck trailer made for two rigs. I am aware there is a 5' difference, but an intelligent person could atleast get an idea what they are looking at. It seems in CJ's pic that 5' could be found in a few places.

Exactly what were you trying to bust me for anyway?

Originally posted by tators

Is the POWER UNIT GCWR 26,001 lbs or more ......

If the answer is no it shoots you down to a Hazardous Material question then a 16passenger question then to "No CDL required"

You're reading that wrong. The first question is if the GCWR is 26,001 or more, not the power unit alone. GCWR is the power unit GVWR plus the trailer's GVWR.

Read the first line which says, "GVWR (power unit) + GVWR (trailer) = GCWR.

This flowchart doesn't apply to all states either. Many states have additional rules which supercede the federal standards shown in this chart.

Originally posted by zachv
Maybe try explaining the difference between a "deckover" and a gooseneck trailer made for two rigs.


A deckover means the trailer deck is above the tires. A gooseneck made for two rigs could either have a deckover or the deck between the wheelwells like most bumper pull trailers. It's lenght that determines if two rigs will fit, not the deck height/type.

Originally posted by smurfsdad
No two cops will give you the same answer. I have a CDL so i dont worry about it.

Good idea. If you don't and the CHP that pulls you over thinks you do, you're parking the trailer until he's corrected or someone else with a CDP can take the trailer.

Originally posted by zachv


Dude, WTF is up your arse??:confused:

Maybe try explaining the difference between a "deckover" and a gooseneck trailer made for two rigs. I am aware there is a 5' difference, but an intelligent person could atleast get an idea what they are looking at. It seems in CJ's pic that 5' could be found in a few places.

Exactly what were you trying to bust me for anyway?

The topic is 2 rigs on a 25ft trailer...
You posted a picture of 2 rigs on a 30foot trailer trying to prove 2 rigs would fit on one 5 foot smaller????

I have a 24ft gooseneck(not the one in the picture)and hauled both my Red Jeep(in above picture)and a stock TJ on 33's. They fit but it was too crowded and I wouldn't routinely do it. The back Jeep was barely on the dovetail. The 30ft is a much better setup for two rigs.

CJ

Hey Tators, :flipoff2:

The original question clearly asks not only if 25ft is enough trailer but if a Cummins 2500 is enough truck. The pic posted is of my truck and I can attest that the Dodge has no trouble pulling the load.

CJ

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
Hey Tators, :flipoff2:

The original question clearly asks not only if 25ft is enough trailer but if a Cummins 2500 is enough truck. The pic posted is of my truck and I can attest that the Dodge has no trouble pulling the load.

CJ

I stand corrected....

The picture was posted with no explaination...

My buddy runs a 2000 Chevy 3500 with a 45 foot wedge gooseneck and 3 cars on it all the time - can be a little slow, but he's been running it commercially for about three years with only problems being in the trailer itself.
He also runs a 3/4 ton Dodge with a gas (not sure wich) engine to pull a single car trailer all the time. So Idon't the you'd be in too bad of shape to pull 2 trail rigs with the Cummins or a Chevy 3500.

Hey guys thanks for all the input. I wasn't necessarily going to use a 25ft, I was just using that as an example. It may end up being a 28 or 30fter.

Thanks again.
Heath

looks like you guys are doing a good job so, not going to argue about the length,
i do know that a gooseneck has more swivel
where a 5th wheel doesn't
5th wheel is for a fairly smooth and semi flat terrain
where a gooseneck mite be able to flex a little better
as far as the point between the truck and trailer.
mite be something to consider at the trailhead.

Originally posted by smurfsdad
No two cops will give you the same answer. I have a CDL so i dont worry about it.

You know it;)

Some of you guys are acting like bitches right now:rolleyes: