: towing a rig with pop-up trailer.. ON a trailer?
Eskimo 09-02-2003, 07:28 PM Here's my thoughts...
I'll eventually be getting a new-ish 3/4 ton, and will be hauling my under 4000-lb cruiser on a bumper pull trailer..
If I go with a 20'-ish trailer, and hitch one of those little pop-up camper trailers to the cruiser, then drive the whole thing up onto the 20', would this work OK?
Only bad thing I can think of is backing off, if the cruiser/pop-up wasn't perfectly straight.
Just an idea to inexpensively have my rig, a little camper, and no double-trailer hassles...
Oh, I hate truck-mounted campers, PITA to put on and off.
I think you could make it work... but how about going at it nother route? Set the pop-up up with jacks on all 4 corners. Load the cruiser, then back the trailer under the pop-up, lower the jacks, and secure in place. When you get where you are going: park, jack it back up, pull forward, unload cruiser.
Same general principle, but IMHO easier than backing the cruiser and pop-up off the trailer like you said.
I have considered something of the reverse - getting a gooseneck and permanently mounting a pop-up camper on the front of it, then loading the vehicle behind that. Buddy of mine does this with a slide-in camper on the front of his gooseneck, loads his Jeep behind that.
tators 09-03-2003, 07:21 AM I've thought about this also.....
What about a SMALL pop-up.. with a box lenght of less than 102" ?
Remove the axle and tongue and mount it sideways across the front of a trailer, the door facing the back of the trailer...
When parked the ends would fold out from each side... The empty deck would make a nice patio....
Small popups aren't very wide either so it wouldn't take up much trailer length....
exactly what I was thinking tators ;)
Eskimo 09-03-2003, 07:34 AM Originally posted by DRM
Set the pop-up up with jacks on all 4 corners. Load the cruiser, then back the trailer under the pop-up, lower the jacks, and secure in place.
Wouldn't the trailer typically be wider than the jacks on the pop-up?
Originally posted by Eskimo
Wouldn't the trailer typically be wider than the jacks on the pop-up?
Probably, but since you are building a jack system, building it with telescopic/removable "outriggers" would not be that difficult :)
Eskimo 09-03-2003, 08:03 AM Originally posted by DRM
Probably, but since you are building a jack system, building it with telescopic/removable "outriggers" would not be that difficult :)
Aaaahhh.. fabrication? What's that? :p
hmmm.. 8-foot pop-up, turned sideways... That would make unloading after a trail run very easy...
tators 09-03-2003, 08:43 AM I'm thinking the pop-up would be permanately mounted across the front of the trailer....
Eskimo 09-03-2003, 08:50 AM yeah, that's what I mean..turned sideways...mounted permanently...
that awy, unload the rig into the garage, park the trailer out back, unload the food, and I'm done.. no dicking with a pop-up too!
You do need to be careful about whether or not having the weight that far forward (or back, depending which one you go with) will work on a specific trailer. That may put too much weight on the tongue, or too much on the back end... Just keep it in mind :)
Eskimo 09-03-2003, 09:40 AM Originally posted by DRM
You do need to be careful about whether or not having the weight that far forward (or back, depending which one you go with) will work on a specific trailer. That may put too much weight on the tongue, or too much on the back end... Just keep it in mind :)
Yeah, That thought is in my mind, which is why a gooseneck would be ideal... as is, having a hard time finding a 96" wide car-hauler bumper pull.. may just have to be a goose.
but alot of these little 8' pop-ups are only like 1500lbs.. and I had to load my 4200lb cruiser pretty far forward on the trailer to get the tongue weight right before.. (back tires were at the back tires of the trailer, fronts were far forward)
So.. my guesstimation is that the tongue weight might work out very well, as long as I tow with the rig on there..
SanDiegoCJ 09-03-2003, 09:45 AM Originally posted by Eskimo
Yeah, That thought is in my mind, which is why a gooseneck would be ideal... as is, having a hard time finding a 96" wide car-hauler bumper pull.. may just have to be a goose.
but alot of these little 8' pop-ups are only like 1500lbs.. and I had to load my 4200lb cruiser pretty far forward on the trailer to get the tongue weight right before.. (back tires were at the back tires of the trailer, fronts were far forward)
So.. my guesstimation is that the tongue weight might work out very well, as long as I tow with the rig on there..
If you're thinking gooseneck, I've seen a few with a "slide in truckbed camper" mounted to the front of the trailer and
the rig behind it. Seems to work quite well.
jeepnut7795 09-03-2003, 03:30 PM A buddy of mine has a gooseneck (28' I believe) with a pick-up truck camper permanately mounted to the front. Works great. And had room under the sides of the camper to build some nice storage boxs.
You have a welder and a plasma cutter and a tubing bender to use, make you something creative
ps:flipoff2:
Eskimo 09-03-2003, 09:00 PM Originally posted by psm
You have a welder and a plasma cutter and a tubing bender to use, make you something creative
ps:flipoff2:
Oh gawd, I can't get away from you even here...
Welcome, nOOb.. :flipoff2:
I thought I would quote myself from my first post to this thread since it seems some of you missed it ;) :p :D
Originally posted by DRM
Buddy of mine does this with a slide-in camper on the front of his gooseneck, loads his Jeep behind that.
Eskimo 09-03-2003, 09:55 PM Originally posted by DRM
I thought I would quote myself from my first post to this thread since it seems some of you missed it ;) :p :D
I didn't miss it, I was just *trying* to keep MY idea floating around... The truck slid-in would be much nicer than the pop-up... also more $$$.
SLICK RICK 09-04-2003, 12:05 AM why not just double pull ???? you see pickups hauling big ass camper trailers with a vehicle or bass boat or jet skis behind them... I am not talking 15 foot campers I am talking like 30 footers with another trailer hooked to it... Is that leagal in your state? here it is a maximum lenght for both and I am not sure what that exact # is and of course overall weight but they dont weight that much....
just fyi..
slick
Seeing Red 09-04-2003, 07:38 AM why not just double pull ???? you see pickups hauling big ass camper trailers with a vehicle or bass boat or jet skis behind them... I am not talking 15 foot campers I am talking like 30 footers with another trailer hooked to it... Is that leagal in your state? here it is a maximum lenght for both and I am not sure what that exact # is and of course overall weight but they dont weight that much....
It is legal, but you must have a class A license with the "doubles" endorsement. And even then you are not allowed on most highways that are not designated truck routes. In NC and most other east coast states, the maximum double trailer length is 28' per trailer with a maximum overall (including truck) length of 60- 70'. Not to mention they are a BITCH to drive since you can't back up with them both attached, and they tend to sway a lot easier than singles.
My advice would be to stay away from running doubles on the east coast. The double laws are a lot more relaxed out west than they are on the east.
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