Originally posted by ukjeeper


Thats why most UKers don't consider themselves "European"!! We dont want to be associated with that bunch of pussy's!! :mad:




Didn't wan't to reply to the original thread this post was in out of respect for the victims and heroes of the 9-11 attacks.

Go fuck yourself! What the hell do you know what all Europeans think, you stupid fu(§ is reasoning the same way as those cowards who flew the planes or strapped explosives to there bodies.

I am sick and fuckin tired of reading the same shit over and over , fuck the French, fuck the Europeans, Fuck the muslims, Fuck the ragheads, ... you keyboard warriors aren't making a difference between the people and their government and like them you are attacking the people instead of the governments!!
It might come as a shock to you but lot's of people don't agree with the politics of their government (like myself), so don't attack me for the things my government does.


Christof Matthys.

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser

Didn't wan't to reply to the original thread this post was in out of respect for the victims and heroes of the 9-11 attacks.

Go fuck yourself! What the hell do you know what all Europeans think, you stupid fu(§ is reasoning the same way as those cowards who flew the planes or strapped explosives to there bodies.

I am sick and fuckin tired of reading the same shit over and over , fuck the French, fuck the Europeans, Fuck the muslims, Fuck the ragheads, ... you keyboard warriors aren't making a difference between the people and their government and like them you are attacking the people instead of the governments!!
It might come as a shock to you but lot's of people don't agree with the politics of their government (like myself), so don't attack me for the things my government does.

Christof Matthys.

Well now... :eek:

Right on. But then, maybe it's your blood. Belgium is the country that decided to fight all of WWI with 4 divisions, conducted themselves with heroism at every turn, and lived up to the regal standards of their King, who was a prince in both name and conduct.

Thanks for you support! :usa:

....but the French DO suck.:D

Fuck Da Police!

What? Somebody had to say it! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Sundowner
....but the French DO suck.:D

By French you mean Europe, right?:D

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


I am sick and fuckin tired of reading the same shit over and over , fuck the French, fuck the Europeans, Fuck the muslims, Fuck the ragheads, ... you keyboard warriors aren't making a difference between the people and their government and like them you are attacking the people instead of the governments!!
It might come as a shock to you but lot's of people don't agree with the politics of their government (like myself), so don't attack me for the things my government does.


Christof Matthys.

Not sure if you are aware of this, but there are a few Frenchmen, Afghanis, etc on this board who's opinions and thoughts are held in rather high regard.

Keyboard warriors??? Don't battle one generalization with another. There are idiots worldwide...there is absolutely no doubt in that. I just think there are a higher percentage of them in Europe. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Sundowner
....but the French DO suck.:D

I regularly work with French and I really dislike the work ethics of the men I worked with, but I refuse and this is the whole point I am trying to make, to generalize that all French are lazy no good bastards like the wankers I worked with.

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


I regularly work with French and I really dislike the work ethics of the men I work with, but the whole point I am trying to make, is that all French are lazy no good bastards.

Cool

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


Not sure if you are aware of this, but there are a few Frenchmen, Afghanis, etc on this board who's opinions and thoughts are held in rather high regard.




I have seen replies on this board to post "Stupid French Jackass" that would deeply ashame me if it would off been made by another Belgian.
Again this is my point, don't fucking generalize that was just a couple of Americans that can't get more than 10 braincells to work at a time. Put simple my point is this don't say Fuck Americans, but fuck Those specific American's.

Hope you get my point, it's sometimes hard for me to get my point across in another language than my mothertongue.


Originally posted by Rip DeLips

Keyboard warriors??? Don't battle one generalization with another. There are idiots worldwide...there is absolutely no doubt in that. I just think there are a higher percentage of them in Europe. :flipoff2:

SMACK, and I deserve it. Sorry about that one !! :flipoff2:

But never forget, most of you Americans are just Europeans who couldn't make it over here !! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Christof Matthys

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


Not sure if you are aware of this, but there are a few Frenchmen, Afghanis, etc on this board who's opinions and thoughts are held in rather high regard.


Frenchmen ? who is that ? cos it can't be me obviously... :confused: :flipoff2:

Oh, and while we're at it, Bush sucks :D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by LAME


Cool

I hate that darn internet thingie!

Originally posted by Stupid frnch jackasS


Oh, and while we're at it, Bush sucks :D :flipoff2:

And Jacques Chirac swallows. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser



I have seen replies on this board to post "Stupid French Jackass" that would deeply ashame me if it would off been made by another Belgian.


I don't get it, what are you talking about ?

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser
But never forget, most of you Americans are just Europeans who couldn't make it over here !! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Christof Matthys

It was a trade off... Make the most powerful nation in the world... Stay on a little island...

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


But never forget, most of you Americans are just Europeans who couldn't make it over here !! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Christof Matthys

Go figure, my family got kicked off:D

OH sh*t! I am completely mortified that i did that! I apologise right and right now for that insult to you, and your Country. :(

When i was dismissing the Europeans as "pussys" i was, of course referring to certain other countries in the union, the only thing you have in common with one of them is that you speak french.

I acted in complete ignorance, and disrespect to you, and your country, for which i feel like a complete ass.

I have every respect for you and your country, Hell, my Aunt has chosen Bruges as her home for the last 30 years!

Again, i made myself look like a complete bigoted moron. I only hope that you can forgive me and understand that i was referring to the other countries that DO make a habit of whining and moaning about anything that anyone who is not part of their "club", does. As well as PMing this to you, i will post it in the thread, and let everyone know i f**ked up :( . I think most people on PBB will let you know i am not usually this stupid. It was an abberation. I will think before i type in future.

You seemed to have calmed down a bit now so....

Tim's just expressing an opinion, just like you are in responding. Don't take it personally, can't remember Belgium ever getting a bad rep around here.

The whole European union issue is what most people in the UK are pissed off about, we seem to getting very little out of it, just getting slagged off and bitched at, while being one of the major contributors money wise.

Empires/unions between different countrys never work through out history, everyone wants there own identity. Especially in a place with the history of Europe. It'll all end in tears.

***edit Hi Tim, Devils Pit 4x4 center (Bedfordshire) this Sunday, will be there with a load of newbie Hilux Surf owners.

anyone from your place coming?***

Originally posted by ukjeeper
OH sh*t! I am completely mortified that i did that! I apologise right and right now for that insult to you, and your Country. :(

When i was dismissing the Europeans as "pussys" i was, of course referring to certain other countries in the union, the only thing you have in common with one of them is that you speak french.

I acted in complete ignorance, and disrespect to you, and your country, for which i feel like a complete ass.

I have every respect for you and your country, Hell, my Aunt has chosen Bruges as her home for the last 30 years!

Again, i made myself look like a complete bigoted moron. I only hope that you can forgive me and understand that i was referring to the other countries that DO make a habit of whining and moaning about anything that anyone who is not part of their "club", does. As well as PMing this to you, i will post it in the thread, and let everyone know i f**ked up :( . I think most people on PBB will let you know i am not usually this stupid. It was an abberation. I will think before i type in future.



Damn Ukjeeper,

You just gained my respect my being a man and stating your wrong. Here is a :beer: for being a man.


Ken C

Originally posted by ukjeeper
i was, of course referring to certain other countries in the union, the only thing you have in common with one of them is that you speak french.


So I get that you're talking about Luxembourg and Switzeland, right ? Wheww... I'm relieved :flipoff2:

Originally posted by TonyN

Empires/unions between different countrys never work through out history, everyone wants there own identity. Especially in a place with the history of Europe. It'll all end in tears.



With my very limited knowledge of the US history this may be a long shot but it seems to me that the US is an example of when this did work.
Problem was it needed a civil war to make it work. :flipoff2:
I am sure that someone will correct my simple view.

Problem with the EU and the UN is the veto right, it should be a democratic vote if more than half the members say yes, the law, rule or whatever passes.
If you don't like it pack up your stuff and leave the EU and all it benifits. But again this is just my simple view.

I'm with Tony. Most of the countries in the union that do most of the bitching, are the ones that no other country really even likes. I figure germany is in the union as they f*cked trying to take over Europe by themselves (TWICE!!), so maybe they can find some backup this way. france? well hell, they have a recent history of rolling over to anyone who is bigger than they are. I must admit, that i don't know exactly where Spain, Italy, Norway etc, stand on recent developments, but maybe i must have missed any statements they made, one way or the other. And the Swiss are generally regarded as the biggest fence sitters in the world. They'll bank ANYONES money, just don't ask them to pick a side.... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Stupid frnch jackasS


So I get that you're talking about Luxembourg and Switzeland, right ? Wheww... I'm relieved :flipoff2:

Oops, I just noticed you were talking about the union... Looks like I just SMACKED myself hard this time :eek: :D

Originally posted by ukjeeper
OH sh*t! I am completely mortified that i did that! I apologise right and right now for that insult to you, and your Country. :(

When i was dismissing the Europeans as "pussys" i was, of course referring to certain other countries in the union, the only thing you have in common with one of them is that you speak french.

I acted in complete ignorance, and disrespect to you, and your country, for which i feel like a complete ass.

I have every respect for you and your country, Hell, my Aunt has chosen Bruges as her home for the last 30 years!

Again, i made myself look like a complete bigoted moron. I only hope that you can forgive me and understand that i was referring to the other countries that DO make a habit of whining and moaning about anything that anyone who is not part of their "club", does. As well as PMing this to you, i will post it in the thread, and let everyone know i f**ked up :( . I think most people on PBB will let you know i am not usually this stupid. It was an abberation. I will think before i type in future.

You are missing my whole point, the french and the french government are two totally different things! That is my point!
To say it with a eufimism, there are good and bad apples in every basket, but don't judge the entire basket on the behauviour of some of the apples !!!

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


BTW, Ik spreek nederlands, not french! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Stupid frnch jackasS


So I get that you're talking about Luxembourg and Switzeland, right ? Wheww... I'm relieved :flipoff2:


Just be glad you aren't having to type , (or spray graffiti on war memorials) in german. :rolleyes:






Edit: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser

BTW, Ik spreek nederlands, not french! :flipoff2:

I thought french was spoken in Belgium?? :confused: My bad.

Originally posted by ukjeeper

Again, i made myself look like a complete bigoted moron. I only hope that you can forgive me and understand that i was referring to the other countries that DO make a habit of whining and moaning about anything that anyone who is not part of their "club", does. As well as PMing this to you, i will post it in the thread, and let everyone know i f**ked up :( . I think most people on PBB will let you know i am not usually this stupid. It was an abberation. I will think before i type in future.

I wasn't even offended, as I hoped that you mean't that some government (mine sadly too) were pussies and not the people who just happened to be born in Europe.
This rant wasn't even directed specifically at you but was just one irritation stacked onto another and kinda erupted tonight reading your post.


Christof Matthys

Originally posted by Stupid frnch jackasS


I don't get it, what are you talking about ?

I remember a reply by Camo on this board to something you said about something technical, his reply was something in the line of "Shut the fuck up, we don't care what you think because you are French".
Don't know what was said afterwards, but replies like this just make me pissed.

Christof Matthys

Originally posted by ukjeeper


I thought french was spoken in Belgium?? :confused: My bad.

You we're half right, half of belgium speaks french, other half speaks dutch!

Perhaps that WAS over the line. Maybe we should look at the individuals on PBB on their own merits, not just where they are from.

Originally posted by ukjeeper
Perhaps that WAS over the line. Maybe we should look at the individuals on PBB on their own merits, not just where they are from.

Uh, most of us already do. :D

EDIT: Did I just make a generalization??? My bad. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


You we're half right, half of belgium speaks french, other half speaks dutch!

Kinda like the whole Swiss/german Swiss/French deal?? I get it! :D

Originally posted by ukjeeper



Just be glad you aren't having to type , (or spray graffiti on war memorials) in german. :rolleyes:

What are you talking about now ? The fact that France doesn't agree with everything US decides (namely war in Iraq) is totally irrelevant with WWII, if you think it it, you completely miss the point of fighting for liberty, democracy, freedom of speech, whatever. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by ukjeeper
Perhaps that WAS over the line. Maybe we should look at the individuals on PBB on their own merits, not just where they are from.

WHAT??? That flies in the face of all that is considered Holy on the PBB...rash decisions and assumptions about people you don't know! :D

Europe sucks :p Take your Union pandering talk to some Euro 4x4 page! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Rip DeLips


Uh, most of us already do. :D

Me included. I generally wait for someone to dig their own hole before jumping in on the condemnation thing. ;) (btw, where IS AlabamaJeeper?!?!?)

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


With my very limited knowledge of the US history this may be a long shot but it seems to me that the US is an example of when this did work.
Problem was it needed a civil war to make it work. :flipoff2:
I am sure that someone will correct my simple view.

Without knowing much about it, they spoke the same language, same money, similar history, (not much of it though ;) )
Rough generalisation, but you get the idea. To much rivalary and dodgy going on's in Europes history


Problem with the EU and the UN is the veto right, it should be a democratic vote if more than half the members say yes, the law, rule or whatever passes.
the veto shows what a half assed mess it is.
If you don't like it pack up your stuff and leave the EU and all it benifits. But again this is just my simple view.
would love to! then we might get on better running our own countrys instead of each others

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


Don't know what was said afterwards, but replies like this just make me pissed.


Ah, OK... I got pissed as well, but got over it anyways... ;)

Originally posted by ukjeeper


Kinda like the whole Swiss/german Swiss/French deal?? I get it! :D

Nope, Switzerland is a Swiss/German - Swiss Italian - Swiss French deal ;)

Originally posted by Pazuzu



Europe sucks :p Take your Union pandering talk to some Euro 4x4 page! :flipoff2:

Euro 4x4 page sucks :D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Pazuzu



Europe sucks :p Take your Union pandering talk to some Euro 4x4 page! :flipoff2:

What??? :flipoff2: We own you bitches, you are just our spawn!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Stupid frnch jackasS


What are you talking about now ? The fact that France doesn't agree with everything US decides (namely war in Iraq) is totally irrelevant with WWII, if you think it it, you completely miss the point of fighting for liberty, democracy, freedom of speech, whatever. :rolleyes:

I wonder when the " We saved your asses in WWI and WWII, so you have to do what we say" quotes are coming! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Stupid frnch jackasS


What are you talking about now ? The fact that France doesn't agree with everything US decides (namely war in Iraq) is totally irrelevant with WWII, if you think it it, you completely miss the point of fighting for liberty, democracy, freedom of speech, whatever. :rolleyes:

I think the problem to a lot of the US people, was that it was ok to jump in and save Europe (not just you) from an evil, genocidal dictator 60 years ago, but when the US (and its allies) jumped in to save Iraq from an evil, genocidal dictator, they were villified for it! :confused:

Also, Americans take an inordinant amount of pride in acknowledging the sacrifices made in the quest for liberty, democracy, freedom of speech and "whatever". So to be attacked the way they were (and like it or not, france was one of the loudest voices out there), and have the symbols of their previous losses (the gravesites in france) defaced, pretty much guaranteed that france would be seen as an "enemy" of what the Allies were trying to accomplish. THATS why france gets pounded on US BB's.

Originally posted by Stupid frnch jackasS


Ah, OK... I got pissed as well, but got over it anyways... ;)

Perhaps you are the better man for it.

Originally posted by ukjeeper


I think the problem to a lot of the US people, was that it was ok to jump in and save Europe (not just you) from an evil, genocidal dictator 60 years ago, but when the US (and its allies) jumped in to save Iraq from an evil, genocidal dictator, they were villified for it! :confused:



Now I get it, I was under the assumption that when the US, UK, Canadians,... came to liberate us 60 years ago, they actually wanted to free us as in Freedom of speach, democracy, ... But in fact they wanted to make us their colonies who will do whatever they want us too!


(Being sarcastic here don't wan't to take any of the respect away from the people that fought and died for the freedom I enjoy today)

I don't get the whole Anglo-french history deal anyway. Its seems (and i'm no scholar) that we've always either been fighting each other (http://www.britishbattles.homestead.com/files/europe/anglofrenchwars.htm), or allying up to defeat a common enemy EG: WWI, WWII, War of Independance(....oops, shouldn't have brought that one up! ;) )

Its a whole love/hate thing isn't it?!?! :D

Originally posted by ukjeeper


I think the problem to a lot of the US people, was that it was ok to jump in and save Europe (not just you) from an evil, genocidal dictator 60 years ago, but when the US (and its allies) jumped in to save Iraq from an evil, genocidal dictator, they were villified for it! :confused:

Also, Americans take an inordinant amount of pride in acknowledging the sacrifices made in the quest for liberty, democracy, freedom of speech and "whatever". So to be attacked the way they were (and like it or not, france was one of the loudest voices out there), and have the symbols of their previous losses (the gravesites in france) defaced, pretty much guaranteed that france would be seen as an "enemy" of what the Allies were trying to accomplish. THATS why france gets pounded on US BB's.

fair enough. France is obvioulsy thankful for what the US did in WWII, and France is obviouly happy for the hope that Iraq will be a better place to live in. But nonetheless, the way Bushs administration handled the decision and possible UN involvement in a war was not the best, diplomatically speaking. Now, the fact that Saddam Husseing got his ass kicked is definately a good thing...

:beer:,

Originally posted by ukjeeper


I think the problem to a lot of the US people, was that it was ok to jump in and save Europe (not just you) from an evil, genocidal dictator 60 years ago, but when the US (and its allies) jumped in to save Iraq from an evil, genocidal dictator, they were villified for it! :confused:




They were villified for it because the reasons why, weren't clear.
Do you truely believe that getting rid off Saddam was the reason for US/UK to attack? I find that very hard to believe, why not get rid off all the other dictators and scumbags??
Don't get me wrong I am 100% pro of the attack on Iraq but simply for the fact that Saddam is history now. But you cannot sell to me that the US/UK attacked Iraq solely for that reason.

Originally posted by ukjeeper


Its a whole love/hate thing isn't it?!?! :D

BTW, we kicked Frances ass in 1302 :flipoff2: and we are still proud of it and have annual festivities to remember it!! :flipoff2:

Not solely, but mainly.

No, i think they DID go in to push Saddam out. It was getting sick of terrorists doing whatever they wanted, and treat their own countrymen like s**t, while other countries in the UN stood around wringing their hands, and NOT acting that pushed the allies to finally do something about it.

HOWEVER i think that the descision to go in was handled VERY badly. It came across as a very heavy handed "invasion" to a lot of people, and Bush as a figurehead for it is a bad idea. He comes across as too "damn the torpedoes", which DOES make some people wonder what the real reasons are. Even if they are the right ones.

As far as going after "all the other dictators and scumbags??", Remember a little a$$hole by the name of Noriega?? And wasn't there some Yugoslavian/Croatian dictator that was kicked out of office (and killed by his countrymen). I think several other "dictators and scumbags" should start watching their backs.... I know Idi Amin, etc are scared s**tless in case they are next!

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


BTW, we kicked Frances ass in 1302 :flipoff2: and we are still proud of it and have annual festivities to remember it!! :flipoff2:

GO BELGIUM!!! :D

http://www.european-foresters.org/images/B-flag.gif

BTW, where the hell IS Bruges?? :confused:

I haven't been to see her in 20 years+ !!

Originally posted by ukjeeper


As far as going after "all the other dictators and scumbags??", Remember a little a$$hole by the name of Noriega?? And i think several other "dictators and scumbags" should start watching their backs....

I truely hope so.

Originally posted by ukjeeper
BTW, where the hell IS Bruges?? :confused:

I haven't been to see her in 20 years+ !!

Bruges is where I live, it is located many miles from the nearest good 4X4 wheeling!!

About 10 miles from the coast, and 50 miles from northern france.

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


Bruges is where I live, it is located many miles from the nearest good 4X4 wheeling!!

About 10 miles from the coast, and 50 miles from northern france.

So if I was to get off the ferry at Calais and drive to Belgium to get outta France fast would I go through it?

Originally posted by Diesel_Cruiser


Bruges is where I live, it is located many miles from the nearest good 4X4 wheeling!!

About 10 miles from the coast, and 50 miles from northern france.

NO SH*T??!?!?! I think i'll be coming to visit my Aunt sometime soon!! :D (I'll find out where she is exactly.)

Looks like this thread calmed down, thank FAWK! I wouldn't want any of us PBBers to hold grudges. Looks like we are all one happy family. English, US, French, Canadians, Australians, even Belgians, etc.




At least we can be thankful there's no fawkin micks in here:rolleyes:















(hi Bob!):flipoff2:

Originally posted by ukjeeper

At least we can be thankful there's no fawkin micks in here:rolleyes:

I've been called worse by better people than you.

Most of them were find upstanding brethern of the Celtic Blood :D
Some fool in my family decided to take an Irish, though British sounding, last name some years ago :mad:

back up the bus:

correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Belgium the spinchter through which Germany royally ass-fawked France circa 1939?

Originally posted by ukjeeper
As far as going after "all the other dictators and scumbags??", Remember a little a$$hole by the name of Noriega?? And wasn't there some Yugoslavian/Croatian dictator that was kicked out of office (and killed by his countrymen). I think several other "dictators and scumbags" should start watching their backs.... I know Idi Amin, etc are scared s**tless in case they are next!

Bob Mugabe is quaking in his boots!

There is a list of about 30 African dictators who need to be taken out of power like yesterday, but I don't see the Western nations invading/liberating anytime soon.


God save Africa, cause nobody else is going to.



BTW, Idi Amin hasn't been in power since 1979, and is currently very dead!! :flipoff2:

Kinda cracks me up that a post directed towards ukjeeper has gone for three whole pages!

Bunch of nosy fawkers in here, aren't we? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by rustycruiser




BTW, Idi Amin hasn't been in power since 1979, and is currently very dead!! :flipoff2:

Bwahaha! :D

Yes, i AM an idiot, its official! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Sundowner
back up the bus:

correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Belgium the spinchter through which Germany royally ass-fawked France circa 1939?

True, our underequiped small army was against there will surrendered by our King to the Germans after 18 days of "battle", there was a big political mess after the war wich lead to the fact that our King had to pack up his stuff and leave the palace!!

Originally posted by ukjeeper


I think the problem to a lot of the US people, was that it was ok to jump in and save Europe (not just you) from an evil, genocidal dictator 60 years ago, but when the US (and its allies) jumped in to save Iraq from an evil, genocidal dictator, they were villified for it! :confused:

Also, Americans take an inordinant amount of pride in acknowledging the sacrifices made in the quest for liberty, democracy, freedom of speech and "whatever". So to be attacked the way they were (and like it or not, france was one of the loudest voices out there), and have the symbols of their previous losses (the gravesites in france) defaced, pretty much guaranteed that france would be seen as an "enemy" of what the Allies were trying to accomplish. THATS why france gets pounded on US BB's.


Wow...very well put....

Hey Diesel Cruiser...since nobody ripped your head off, I think you should send us a boat load of your finest Trapist ales. :flipoff2:

Damn those monks make good beer. Some of the finest in the world. Now there is a religion I could get in to. LOL :D