Formula Toyota S/N 001

[Air Ride]

Thought I would post pics of S/N 001 build up to what I hope will be a rolling chassis that will go on display at cal rocs next weekend. After 3 hours of bending tubing I ended up with this. Had some issues with bender today.

[fatkid]

What type of bender you using? :)

[FatA$$ Toyota]

I cant wait to see one of these things finished and rolling.

[pitter]

Sweet!:D

[camo]

Originally posted by fatkid
What type of bender you using? :)

cnc mandrel

[ROKTOY]

mandrel.....yum! :eek:

Jay

[Wilson]

Originally posted by fatkid
What type of bender you using? :)

You forgot the "what radius dye" part:flipoff2:

Looks good Air Ride, you know you're just teasing those of us with our names on the list......

[camo]

with a 3"radius die.....come awn

[Booger Weldz]

Originally posted by camo
with a 3"radius die.....come awn

3'' :eek: wish mine was that tight(and not man powered) i think the tightest the jd2 and protools come is 5.5''

[Pazuzu]

Maybe this will put to rest the question of whether the end-user can bend his own cage for the Formula Toy comp.

Answer: No.
Reason: Airride is designing it to be bent with equipment that no one else has! :D

[OOP'S]

Originally posted by Booger Weldz


3'' :eek: wish mine was that tight(and not man powered) i think the tightest the jd2 and protools come is 5.5''

JD Square die sizes

10-2000 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1/2" (2.25-180) .035" $105.00
10-2001 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1/2" (3-180) .035" $115.00
10-2002 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 5/8" (2.25-180) .049" $105.00
10-2003 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 5/8" (3-180) .049" $115.00
10-2004 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 3/4" (2.25-180) .058" $105.00
10-2005 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 3/4" (3-180) .058" $115.00
10-2007 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 3/4" (4.5-180) .058" $165.00
10-2009 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 3/4" (5.5-180) .058" $190.00
10-2010 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 7/8" (3-180) .058" $125.00
10-2012 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 7/8" (4.5-180) .058" $165.00
10-2014 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 7/8" (5.5-180) .058" $190.00
10-2015 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1" (3-180) .058" $135.00
10-2016 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1" (3.5-180) .058" $165.00
10-2018 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1" (4.5-180) .058" $165.00
10-2020 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1" (5.5-180) .058" $195.00
10-2021 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/8" (3.5-180) .083" $165.00
10-2023 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/8" (4.5-180) .058" $165.00
10-2025 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/8" (5.5-180) .058" $185.00
10-2027 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/8" (6.5-180) .058" $195.00
10-2028 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/4" (3.5-180) .083" $165.00
10-2030 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/4" (4.5-180) .058" $165.00
10-2032 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/4" (5.5-180) .058" $185.00
10-2034 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/4" (6.5-180) .058" $195.00
10-2036 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 3/8" (4.5-180) .095" $175.00
10-2038 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 3/8" (5.5-180) .065" $185.00
10-2040 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 3/8" (6.5-180) .065" $195.00
10-2042 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 3/8" (7.5-180) .065" $260.00
10-2044 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/2" (4.5-180) .095" $185.00
10-2046 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/2" (5.5-180) .083" $195.00
10-2048 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/2" (6.5-180) .058" $200.00
10-2050 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 1/2" (7.5-180) .058" $250.00
10-2052 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 5/8" (4.5-180) .120" $190.00
10-2054 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 5/8" (5.5-180) .083" $200.00
10-2056 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 5/8" (6.5-180) .083" $205.00
10-2058 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 5/8" (7.5-180) .083" $260.00
10-2060 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 3/4" (5.5-180) .095" $200.00
10-2062 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 3/4" (6.5-180) .083" $205.00
10-2064 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 3/4" (7.5-180) .083" $260.00
10-2066 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 7/8" (6.5-180) .095" $215.00
10-2068 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1 7/8" (7.5-180) .083" $270.00
10-2070 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 2" (6.5-180) .095" $225.00
10-2072 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 2" (7.5-180) .095" $270.00

[Air Ride]

with a mandrel you can bend 2x the diameter. With out a mandrel its 3x the diameter.

[larryboy]

Originally posted by OOP'S


10-2015 M3B Round Tube Die Set - 1" (3-180) .058" $135.00


the largest tube they have a 3" radius for is 1" according to that list. OOOOPPPPSSSSSS:D .

[Air Ride]

Got 3 hours in today after watching Robby lose and helping Camo stick the motor in his new chassis.

[Air Ride]

by the way the dies for the bender im using $2500 to $5000:eek:

[Air Ride]

last one for today

[TR]

if this is 001 then which one is the one in the picture with lisa?

[camo]

Originally posted by Michael A Britts
if this is 001 then which one is the one in the picture with lisa?


it was a pre production protype that was used for mock up and full scale visual refrencing to check the computer blue prints

[Ben Holloway]

so basicly its just whats in that picture right, no pre fabbed fire wall or anything, how does it attach to the chassis

Ben

[camo]

Originally posted by Ben Holloway
so basicly its just whats in that picture right, no pre fabbed fire wall or anything, how does it attach to the chassis

Ben

right now it is just the chassis. in the future mike will have more accessorys available like pre fabbed firewalls, bodys, hoods, and stuff like that. but those parts are under development as of now.

the chassis welds to the frame

[Dirt Mover]

Mike,are you the guy that had the buggy at the first Frostoberfest. It was in 2000 I think. Camo, Frosty and Desert Toy were there. We did Wreckingball and Claw.

[camo]

ya that was mikes origanal tube buggy. he still has it and it is currently for sale as he is building one of his production chassis for his self

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by Dirt Mover
Mike,are you the guy that had the buggy at the first Frostoberfest. It was in 2000 I think. Camo, Frosty and Desert Toy were there. We did Wreckingball and Claw.

Ah thoughs were the days crawln up all the trails with ease watching all the losers with full bodied rigs trying to follow me.

















dam I have to get my new rig finished soon.

[Dirt Mover]

The buggy thing looks like alot of fun, I'm looking every weekend at the classifieds for a donor rig. Can't decide whether to go with a formula rig or just build something I like. (EFI & Full Width) As far as the full body thing, it's kinda nice kicking on the AC in the summer and the heater in the winter. IMHO two rigs will be better than one. :)

[Air Ride]

frame on

[freds40]

looking good!

[4RnrRick]

Whats the wheelbase of the frame you are designing this around? 103" or 113"?

[desertoy]

Hopefully you plan on painting that thing and maybe putting the same wheels and tires on all 4 corners before you bring it out. :flipoff2: Looks good:D

[pmurf1]

Originally posted by Dirt Mover
) As far as the full body thing, it's kinda nice kicking on the AC in the summer and the heater in the winter. IMHO two rigs will be better than one. :)

Now you're thinking, a Tow rig and a buggy is a good combo! Windsheilds are for sissies.:flipoff2:

What are you taking those pics with, a Bic lighter and no flash?:D

[DRM]

Originally posted by pmurf1


Now you're thinking, a Tow rig and a buggy is a good combo! Windsheilds are for sissies.:flipoff2:


Dude, I was picking bugs, sand, and dust out of my eyes and teeth the whole flight back home :p

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by desertoy
Hopefully you plan on painting that thing and maybe putting the same wheels and tires on all 4 corners before you bring it out. :flipoff2: Looks good:D


desertoy your alive!

[ROKTOY]

Originally posted by DRM


Dude, I was picking bugs, sand, and dust out of my eyes and teeth the whole flight back home :p

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Just stop grinnin'....keeps stuff outta your mouth. :D :D

Coming together nicely Mike.

Jay

[kozaz]

Originally posted by Air Ride
frame on

I had my doubts about what it would look like, but I must say It really looks good. Keep up the progress pics. :cool:

[woody]

for the shadow-challenged...

[elcornus]

Hey Mike,looking good! I can't wait to see #002 finished! :flipoff2:
If you want some help from an unemployed, handicapped fool,
give me a call at (805) 234-6756
I've got a LOT of time on my hands, and need something to do during the day to keep me from going crazy!

[DRM]

Question:


With the tube on the frame, front axle in stock location - what is the largest tire you will be able to run?


I know you can move the axle forward, lift height changes how big a tire you can fit, but have you worked out the numbers yet?

[Air Ride]

we had 38x14.5 swampers on it and they had tons of room. 40s would probably fit. 38s seem to be the max the toy axle can handle anyway.

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by elcornus
Hey Mike,looking good! I can't wait to see #002 finished! :flipoff2:
If you want some help from an unemployed, handicapped fool,
give me a call at (805) 234-6756
I've got a LOT of time on my hands, and need something to do during the day to keep me from going crazy!

002 will be done the week after cal rocs then you will have plenty to do.:D

[elcornus]

KICK ASS!!

Thanx for the update!

Eric

[DRM]

Originally posted by Air Ride
we had 38x14.5 swampers on it and they had tons of room. 40s would probably fit. 38s seem to be the max the toy axle can handle anyway.

So axle 2.5" forward, with adequate lift - could a 42 fit?

[Bones]

Heck for that price my trail rig might get this treatment in a year or so. :cool:

[Scott Jensen]

Originally posted by camo


cnc mandrel


is that the 50k special?? :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[DRM]

Originally posted by Bones
Heck for that price my trail rig might get this treatment in a year or so. :cool:


Exactly my thinking...

[Lemoore-on]

Me to. I figure I'll give it some time so all the guys who are gonna compete can get there's first and then put in an order.

[flimmy]

Originally posted by DRM


So axle 2.5" forward, with adequate lift - could a 42 fit?

You could always mount the cage 1" to 1.5 " higher off the frame for a little more clearance to fit the 42's

[camo]

tire clearance would be more of an issue with the tires hitting the leaf springs than hitting the chassis during flex.

even with 38's on a stock toy axle you start to limit your turning 42's would be worse

[Air Ride]

day 3, more bracing and some stuff cut off the frame.

[Wilson]

How long until #5 is done?:D

[Todd C]

I'm more interested in how long until #6 is done. :D :D

Can hardly wait! I remember wanting to get on the list for these quite early this year. I am glad to see it becoming a reality.

I still have a couple of frames if anyone needs one to build a Formula Toyota.

Contact me at: ltcdds@pacbell.net

[TNToy]

Mike, can we get a shot from the front/side/rear from a little closer up? I'm mainly interested in how it attaches to the frame rails... also to give an idea of the width. :)

[Wilson]

Width is listed on his site;)

[DRM]

Originally posted by camo
tire clearance would be more of an issue with the tires hitting the leaf springs than hitting the chassis during flex.

even with 38's on a stock toy axle you start to limit your turning 42's would be worse

*I* would not be running it on Toyota axles, or Toyota width axles ;)

[Air Ride]

material is showing up tomorrow and I will be bending tube first thing monday after I get home from cal rocs. Should be able to make two a week. You can do the math to figure when yours will be done.

DRM if you use a wider axle you can run any size tire you want because they will be outside the chassis.

[SeaBass44]

Originally posted by Air Ride
.........Should be able to make two a week. .......

saw you post a few weeks back that you would be doing this full time 50-60 hours a week, so do these take 30 to 40 hours each to build?

[DRM]

Originally posted by Air Ride

DRM if you use a wider axle you can run any size tire you want because they will be outside the chassis.


That's what I was wanting to hear :)

[camo]

Originally posted by SeaBass44


saw you post a few weeks back that you would be doing this full time 50-60 hours a week, so do these take 30 to 40 hours each to build?


he is working 50 hours a week building his company and desiging additional products. he has alloted time enuff to complete 2 formula chassis per week. he has alot of other work to do during the week as well

[SeaBass44]

Originally posted by camo



he is working 50 hours a week building his company and desiging additional products. he has alloted time enuff to complete 2 formula chassis per week. he has alot of other work to do during the week as well

cool:cool:

[LAME]

Is there gonna be prefabbed body panels for these, down the road?

[RE:Todd]

Originally posted by LAME
Is there gonna be prefabbed body panels for these, down the road? Zag's expressed an interest in doing this when he had a sample buggy.

[LAME]

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Zag's expressed an interest in doing this when he had a sample buggy.

I would think it would sell. If I had something like that it would be cool to just order up new skins every winter, paint/sticker, and toss 'em on:D

[RocKrawler]

Maybe I missed something in reading the thread twice, but whats the price on these and what wheelbase is this setup for? I just need to know so when I destroy the body on my 4 Runner I have a backup plan to pitch to the wife... :D

[4RnrRick]

Originally posted by RocKrawler
Maybe I missed something in reading the thread twice, but whats the price on these and what wheelbase is this setup for? I just need to know so when I destroy the body on my 4 Runner I have a backup plan to pitch to the wife... :D

Ditto That...





Also does http://www.hendrixmotorsports.com/ only have one Web Page to it??? All the Links seem to be broken for me. I was expecting to see atleast a link to the Stock Toy Class Rules...... But the only think I see is the following:

********************************************
http://www.hendrixmotorsports.com.futuresite.register.com/db4/00389/hendrixmotorsports.com/_uimages/formulaRS1r.jpg

Hendrix Motorsports' rock crawling chassis are engineered for safety, affordability, and strength. Computer designed space frame technology weighs less and allows maximum use of interior space. The chassis accommodates two front seats and a rear bench seat with ample room for spare parts, tools, and an ice chest. This competition worthy chassis provides plenty of storage for that three day Rubicon trip.

For question and or quotes please E-mail me or call 805-550-3196

*Above picture is of the prototype Formula RS Chassis. Completed X chassis pictures coming soon.

[Chris Geiger]

For Formula Toyota spec class rules, see the Formula Toyota web site at:


Formula Toyota (http://www.formulatoy.com/)

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by RocKrawler
Maybe I missed something in reading the thread twice, but whats the price on these and what wheelbase is this setup for? I just need to know so when I destroy the body on my 4 Runner I have a backup plan to pitch to the wife... :D

sorry the web site is having problems right now.

Formula Toyota Chassis are $799.00 for HREW and $999.00 for DOM.

they are built to go on a standard short bed toyota 79 to 85. wheel base is from 103" to 105".

[freds40]

So is this saying that you have to stretch the WB? Not saying it's a bad thing but if I recall, the stock WB for my '83 was 101.7?

[flimmy]

Originally posted by Air Ride
they are built to go on a standard short bed toyota 79 to 85. wheel base is from 103" to 105".

Won't they also fit any short bed truck up to 95 ?

[Air Ride]

you could mount the chassis on to most any frame. 101" wheel base would also work.

[flimmy]

I ment to say short bed toyota up to 1995 . :rolleyes:

[Air Ride]

the web site is working again, sorry for the inconvenience.

[4RnrRick]

Originally posted by Air Ride
the web site is working again, sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks Air Ride. Btw I think you need to update your link in your signature because it points to http://www.hendrixmotorsports.com/forum/ which the links do not work, but http://www.hendrixmotorsports.com/ link does....




Also is it true that this will also work on first Gen 4runners (84-89) since the wheel base is 103ish??




Are these prices a complete welded chassis or is it in kit form that the end customer has to weld together? If it is in kit form are the ends already notched??

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by 4RnrRick


Also is it true that this will also work on first Gen 4runners (84-89) since the wheel base is 103ish??

Are these prices a complete welded chassis or is it in kit form that the end customer has to weld together? If it is in kit form are the ends already notched??

chassis are fully welded. You just have to weld it to the frame. I will have picture later on how it mounts to the frame, but basicly you can use the old mounts for the body and suplied tabs or you can you use the mount kit with pre-notched tubing or both.

it should work on runners too.

[jca]

So it was out there this weekend. What did everyone think? I would have bought one when I was building mine but the timing was not right. If I was building one now I would buy one of these chassis! I hope to help a couple of guys build and run theirs.


Good job Mike!

[TNToy]

BTT

[Air Ride]

All the feed back I received was positive. We took about 75 brochures and came back with only about 25. Had a lot of interest from people wanting to get into rock crawling for the first time. Lots of comments on the overall look. people really liked its lines. Had about 5 people say "wow now I can do sometime with that old toyota truck in the back yard". Will post up some pictures tomorrow.

[Pazuzu]

Mike, I had one quick question. I understand that the prototype was a rush job, but some of the mounts to the frame were, well...weak. Like the connections to the body mounts. Can I assume that it was simply because you needed to get it done, and a true ordered chassis would have stronger mounts, or is that really how it should be? I mean, on one of the body mounts, it was barely touching with just a few tack welds...

Otherwise, I REALLY liked it, it has some very clean lines, and the size is exactly what people strive for in their own buggies.

[Lemoore-on]

Originally posted by jca
So it was out there this weekend. What did everyone think? I would have bought one when I was building mine but the timing was not right. If I was building one now I would buy one of these chassis! I hope to help a couple of guys build and run theirs.


Good job Mike!


I was impressed! I want one:D It is basic enough that you can customize it the way you want. One thing I would change is right behind the front tires, I would angle that back just a little more so people can move the forward cab mount back and not have to worry about the front tires getting into the tube. I stood there drooling all over it fantasizing about how I'm gonna build it.

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by Pazuzu
Mike, I had one quick question. I understand that the prototype was a rush job, but some of the mounts to the frame were, well...weak. Like the connections to the body mounts. Can I assume that it was simply because you needed to get it done, and a true ordered chassis would have stronger mounts, or is that really how it should be? I mean, on one of the body mounts, it was barely touching with just a few tack welds...

Otherwise, I REALLY liked it, it has some very clean lines, and the size is exactly what people strive for in their own buggies.

The stock body mounts were left on just to show people how it lines up with the frame. It can be mounted using the stock body mount and tubing mounts or you can cut off all the body mounts and just go with the tube mounts. I Will have some tech on how to mount it to the frame soon. Also tech on getting the old body mount off with out using a torch and messing up the frame.

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by Lemoore-on



I was impressed! I want one:D It is basic enough that you can customize it the way you want. One thing I would change is right behind the front tires, I would angle that back just a little more so people can move the forward cab mount back and not have to worry about the front tires getting into the tube. I stood there drooling all over it fantasizing about how I'm gonna build it.

That was brought to my atentuoin and we are already moving it back.

Thanks

[Pazuzu]

Originally posted by Air Ride


The stock body mounts were left on just to show people how it lines up with the frame.

Got it, thanks!

[scwafish]

So any pics of the finished product?

[JeepRecoveryTeam]

Thanks Mike:rolleyes: , now I have to scrap my plans of the next rebuild of my junk. I need to get my name on your list :D

Excellent product.

Dave

[Booger Weldz]

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam
Thanks Mike:rolleyes: , now I have to scrap my plans of the next rebuild of my junk. I need to get my name on your list :D

Excellent product.

Dave

your names already on my list sweet tits :rainbow: :flipoff2:

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by scwafish
So any pics of the finished product?

will post pics later tonight.

[93EddieB]

was out at roxx bash this past weekend and saw the chassis. it was sweet. the only problem was already mentioned and taken care of, front tire clearance. i really liked the overall chassis though and am interested in the four seat option.

good job

rob

[Air Ride]

pics

[Air Ride]

more

[Air Ride]

and more

[Air Ride]

still more

[Air Ride]

last one

[Wilson]

Mike, I pm'd Lisa. Do you want a deposit, full payment or pay when I pick up the chasis in a couple weeks?

[INFAMOUSBUTCHER]

do you make a 4 seater for a long bed frame? yer website link isnt working

[Air Ride]

We will be building a full 4 seat version very soon. The current version will accommodate a rear bench seat for kids and small adults.

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by Wilson
Mike, I pm'd Lisa. Do you want a deposit, full payment or pay when I pick up the chasis in a couple weeks?

Now that the production version is out and the production schedule is set well are accepting deposits.

[Wilson]

Originally posted by Air Ride


Now that the production version is out and the production schedule is set well are accepting deposits.

Thanks, I'll call her tomorrow, or pm me an address and $$ amount and I'll send a check out tomorrow.

[Wilson]

Is it me or will the hood need a scoop?

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by Wilson
Is it me or will the hood need a scoop?

the hood is like what you see on sand cars and off road racing buggies. I'll see if I can find a pic to post.

[Ben Holloway]

thats a completed chassis?

[TNToy]

What are you asking exactly? It's a bare tube frame, ready for the owner to start adding their stuff, fabbing a dash, probably a few gussets, etc, etc.

How much do you really want for $900? That's the cost of the tubing, grinding discs, and welding consumables for most of us to build one of these. Nevermind all the hours spent bending and then re-bending tubes that didn't work out, notching, etc.

[4RnrRick]

Looks good....

Whats the approximate weight of the Formula Toyota Chassis as you sell it???

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by 4RnrRick
Looks good....

Whats the approximate weight of the Formula Toyota Chassis as you sell it???

It is about 250 lbs. Haven't weighed it yet but if you add up all the tubing thats what it should weigh.

[Air Ride]

frame mounts

[Air Ride]

more frame mounts

[Air Ride]

last one

[bobjohnson]

Just wondering why you didn't put more cross bracing in the rear, like an x brace on the third hoop.

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by bobjohnson
Just wondering why you didn't put more cross bracing in the rear, like an x brace on the third hoop.

The cross bracing needs to go in after the chassis is attached to the frame. It is also best to put the cross bracing right at the back of the seat. Therefore it is left up to the customer to install. I will post up pics of bracing the chassis in the tech post when we get to that point.

[Po' riggity]

I saw this thing at calrocs and in camp and even got to help push it off Gary's trailer :flipoff2: This thing is sweet! One day, I will have one! It can't be beat for the price!
Scott

[CronusTRD]

Originally posted by Air Ride


It is about 250 lbs. Haven't weighed it yet but if you add up all the tubing thats what it should weigh.

are you shipping those?

[bobjohnson]

Originally posted by Air Ride


The cross bracing needs to go in after the chassis is attached to the frame. It is also best to put the cross bracing right at the back of the seat. Therefore it is left up to the customer to install. I will post up pics of bracing the chassis in the tech post when we get to that point.

cool. Are you going to sell these as weld together kits too?

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by bobjohnson


cool. Are you going to sell these as weld together kits too?

probably not, the slight differences in every frame and the differences in seat mounting will more than likely make it to hard for one kit to fit all. It will be easy to fabricate at home though.

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by Cronus TRD


are you shipping those?

we have a shipper and if you can wait tell he is close to your area I thinks its around $500 to the east coast.

[Toyotafourwheeln]

i know your not done with it yet,but it's looking great so far. i was wondering the same thing on the X-brace ( but seen that was answered)but you said that the cutomer is responsible for doing that after it is all attached,but does it come with that tubing or is it something the customer needs to buy afterwards? also,(probably a stupid question) but does the front just attach to the frame also with tubing ( like the sides)..also what is about the measurement from the frame to the top side tube( where your arm would rest on)?

i was looking at getting a 4 seater,but that 1 looks like there is enough room in the back for the kid as it sits.


but cant beat the price since buying all the tools,bender,dies,etc.etc would run ya alot more than that.

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by Toyotafourwheeln
i know your not done with it yet,but it's looking great so far. i was wondering the same thing on the X-brace ( but seen that was answered)but you said that the cutomer is responsible for doing that after it is all attached,but does it come with that tubing or is it something the customer needs to buy afterwards? also,(probably a stupid question) but does the front just attach to the frame also with tubing ( like the sides)..also what is about the measurement from the frame to the top side tube( where your arm would rest on)?

i was looking at getting a 4 seater,but that 1 looks like there is enough room in the back for the kid as it sits.


but cant beat the price since buying all the tools,bender,dies,etc.etc would run ya alot more than that.

the tubing for the X-brace would be extra. The front will have a kit to attach it and replace the front cross member, or the you could just weld some tubes down to the frame. from he top of the frame to the bottom of the side window is about 18". The costumer can mount the frame at any height above the frame he or she wants.

[desertoy]

Since the tubing that connects the the chasis to the frame actually welds on well above the bottom the the frame rail, are you guys going to allow people to trim the bottom off of the frame between the front and rear spring mounts?
Also, how about lightening the frame with a hole saw?

[Ben Holloway]

Originally posted by TNToy
What are you asking exactly? It's a bare tube frame, ready for the owner to start adding their stuff, fabbing a dash, probably a few gussets, etc, etc.

How much do you really want for $900? That's the cost of the tubing, grinding discs, and welding consumables for most of us to build one of these. Nevermind all the hours spent bending and then re-bending tubes that didn't work out, notching, etc.

i thought there was talk of more cross bracing but i dont see any at all i thought there was at least one brace in the drawings i looked at a while back and if we cant modify the chassis dosnt that mean we cant add any in there, just curious

Ben

[Toyotafourwheeln]

Originally posted by Ben Holloway


i thought there was talk of more cross bracing but i dont see any at all

Ben


Originally posted by Air Ride
I will post up pics of bracing the chassis in the tech post when we get to that point.

[Ben Holloway]

Originally posted by Toyotafourwheeln





i know i was replying to TNTOY so he could understand what i was asking cause he seemed a little unclear:p

Nem

[TNToy]

Yes, 'twas a slight bit unclear. :)

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by desertoy
Since the tubing that connects the the chasis to the frame actually welds on well above the bottom the the frame rail, are you guys going to allow people to trim the bottom off of the frame between the front and rear spring mounts?
Also, how about lightening the frame with a hole saw?

Camo makes the rules, but I don't think he is going to let us modify the frame rail to much. Some holes on the inside of the frame rail would be cool though.

[elcornus]

I got my chassis!!!!!!!:flipoff2: Now I just need to get it finished.
I must say, it turned out even better than I expected!
Air ride, you do AWESOME work!

[Wilson]

I'm next:D

[Air Ride]

Originally posted by elcornus
I got my chassis!!!!!!!:flipoff2: Now I just need to get it finished.
I must say, it turned out even better than I expected!
Air ride, you do AWESOME work!

Thanks Eric, glad you like it.
Finished 003 today will start 004 tomorrow.

[SpLiZaaT]

I live in oregon and I think i am ready to make an order soon. How much would it be to ship to zip code 97007 in portland, oregon?!

[Toyotafourwheeln]

Originally posted by SpLiZaaT
I live in oregon and I think i am ready to make an order soon. How much would it be to ship to zip code 97007 in portland, oregon?!

http://www.hendrixmotorsports.com/


:D there is a spot down at the bottom of the page just for you :D

[SpLiZaaT]

if you are talking about the email addy, I alreadyd did but they won't be back for a while cuz of vacation?

[camo]

:D

[camo]

:flipoff2:

[camo]

????

[The Joker]

Do you plan on mounting the axle in multiple location? :flipoff2:

I only used one spring plate is there something I should now about for multiple. :D

[camo]

hhhmmm

[camo]

Originally posted by The Joker
Do you plan on mounting the axle in multiple location? :flipoff2:

I only used one spring plate is there something I should now about for multiple. :D


adjustable wheel base.....duh :flipoff2:

[Wilson]

It's about time, any word on availability of the pedal kit?

[camo]

progress.......


howe ram assist and box mounted

[camo]

all pro spring pearch that has been modifyed for u bolt elimn and ram mount

[camo]

all pro spring pearch and diff guard

[camo]

gettin closer......

race craft seats are pimp.

fyi....over the years i have used beards, mastercrafts and others. I got these from www.racecraftseats.com and am so pleased with them i will use and recomend them from now on.

[camo]

rear view of seats and how the tcase fits

[camo]

bud built skid plate...........yes that is glitter :D it is very very sparkly

[camo]

aaron made the bling fan mount

[camo]

air bag hard at work :flipoff2:

[SeaBass44]

lookin good, will it be ready in time for 1st event?

[camo]

official camoware race trailer.


we are setting it up to be race support for the formula rigs with spare parts and plenty of shop equipment to fix anything we might break during an event

[camo]

Originally posted by SeaBass44
lookin good, will it be ready in time for 1st event?


thats the plan. should be at the jambo as well

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally posted by camo
official camoware race trailer.


we are setting it up to be race support for the formula rigs with spare parts and plenty of shop equipment to fix anything we might break during an event


Holy Sh!t. :eek: :eek:
WTF did you do, rob Fort Knox ???? :flipoff2:

[camo]

:D


bought the trailer from gearman a few years ago

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally posted by camo
:D


bought the trailer from gearman a few years ago


Saweet. :D I'm looking forward to seeing the #001 chassis at the Jambo.
I've been checking out RE:Todd's #006 since he started and I really like the concept.

[pmurf1]

Camo's back with a vengeance.:D

[SLO_Crawlers]

Is that Al's truck and trailer or did you buy it from him? It was out at the Hammers and is definately a nice setup. We worked on Pig's truck today and it should be ready soon. Bryan.

[camo]

Al owns the tractor but not the trailer. we just store the trailer in his yard cause he has the room. the trailer was bought from gearman of POR a few years ago

[montezuma]

What is the purpose for eliminating the one u-bolt? Is it just for added ground clearance? Also, why not eliminate both?

[camo]

i intended to elimn both but there is not enuff room for the larger bolts so i had to stick with the smaller ubolt. i am building another axle to use for comps and this one will end up being a spare. what i learned by cutting this one up will make the next one with no ubolts

[camo]

Airbag drilled the hubs and added more pins. also cross drilled the rotors.......



edit.........pic to follow. arrrg

[85 rocrnr]

you have been busy.

[montezuma]

Originally posted by camo
the next one with no ubolts

I have been looking into doing something like this for a front axle, for making room to add trussing. Do you have any pictures, or can you explain how to eliminate both u-bolts on the passenger side? I'm curious how it would work.

[camo]

to get rid of both ubolts on the passanger side i think will require cutting into the housing some to make room for the nut.

i had it close without cutting the housing but it did not leave enuff meat on the pad so i went with the ubolt for now.

[Air Ride]

:cool:
:flipoff2:

[camo]

bling matha fawken bling

[CSR]

SWEET!!! :cool: :cool:

[Wilson]

Looks like a trick Jeep grill:flipoff2: What about one with square light cutouts?

[RE:Todd]

Where's mine, since mine's on the trail at least :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[a2b]

wow..you have time for that:p

[PAULR]

Farken nice :D:D :D

[4RnrRick]

Look slike a land cruiser grill to me, got to keep it in the family. PEte and I have been thinking of doing the smae thing to "project Blu". are those grill inserts going to be for sale????

[Hammer Hog]

HOTTTTTTT!!!!



:smokin:

[Aaronn]

Originally posted by 4RnrRick
are those grill inserts going to be for sale????

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=240436

[Air Ride]

Drove 001 tonight. Have to wait till tomorrow for pics battery was dead in the camera.

[a2b]

nice X and diamond plate, but you forgot your seat :grinpimp:

[Air Ride]

had to pull the seats out to weld in the seat belt eyelet's

[Air Ride]

better shot of the X

[camo]

rear shocks are gonna snap off :flipoff2:

[Air Ride]

it runs

[Bones]

:laughing: That dog rocks! Oh and nice rig to, looks really nice! Makes me want a tube chasis.

[JamisonWorkshop]

Saweeeet....

Beautiful work. Clean and functional. :beer: :beer:

Any tweaking in order??

[camo]

Saweeeet....

Any tweaking in order??




gave up tweaking years ago, that shit is bad for you :flipoff2:

[fatkid]

How is the motor?

[Air Ride]

The motor run great. you would never guess it has over 200,000 on it.

[Air Ride]

:d

[DRM]

Very nice work - the assembled package is purty indeed ('cept for that goofy looking driver :p )

[JamisonWorkshop]

gave up tweaking years ago, that shit is bad for you

--------------------------------------------------

Well then beers to you guys. :beer: :beer: :beer:

It does look like it is working pretty well. So no tweaking for you guys.





YET....... :D

:smokin:

[Air Ride]

:flipoff2:

[SanDiegoCJ]

it runs


I know that driveway. :D
BTW, Marlin's a ham. :D

[Aaronn]

Dude !..That's a sweet paint job...Did you have that professionally done?? :flipoff2: :D

[PAULR]

The rig looks killer, nice work.. Could you post some more interior pictures? I'm curious about how you did the floor pan, especially the passenger side. :D

[Hammer Hog]

Very cool,
Let's see more pix!

[Air Ride]

she is ready for competition

[Air Ride]

001 is almost ready too

[camo]

thems my girls :grinpimp:

[Lowtorious]

Is Lisa going to drive in high heels too?

[camo]

Is Lisa going to drive in high heels too?


duh :D

[SanDiegoCJ]

001 is almost ready too


Still needs a roof though, right ????

[jca]

Still needs a roof though, right ????


and a hood...who made these damm rules anyhow :flipoff2: :D

["The Boy"]

Well Then looks like the 001 will make it to the come this weekend to fully get it. Is Lisa Going to be the one driving this comp. How Is that all worked out?

Well anyways, saw it at the jambo and it rides, but not on air.
See you guys at the comp.
Boy

[SanDiegoCJ]

Well Then looks like the 001 will make it to the come this weekend to fully get it. Is Lisa Going to be the one driving this comp. How Is that all worked out?

Well anyways, saw it at the jambo and it rides, but not on air.
See you guys at the comp.
Boy


Sentence structure *Boy*, sentence structure. :flipoff2:

[Beat95YJ]

rear shocks are gonna snap off :flipoff2:

What kind of shocks are those? I thought I saw a thread where formula Toy shocks were not allowed to be revalvable? Those appear to have gas ports on them. :confused:

[SanDiegoCJ]

What kind of shocks are those? I thought I saw a thread where formula Toy shocks were not allowed to be revalvable? Those appear to have gas ports on them. :confused:


They're Bilstiens (sp) and they're legal. They are not revalvable.

[Beat95YJ]

Ok, if you say so...Never seen a 5100 with a nitrogen port. :confused:

Definately has twin tubes on the front though. Sweet looking ride.

[Hammer Hog]

Ok, if you say so...Never seen a 5100 with a nitrogen port. :confused:

Definately has twin tubes on the front though. Sweet looking ride.


Could they be 5150's...like these?
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/FTartRampTest2.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/steve3.jpg

[camo]

rear shocks are prototye shocks that are being built for these rigs by pig @ www.polyperformance.com

the reason they have the shrader valve is so we can test diffrent pressures and when we get them to where they work the best they will come charged from the manufacture with that PSI


from our initial testing I think they are a pretty kick ass shock and should work really well on formula toys as well as lighter toy trucks

[Beat95YJ]

Thanks. I didn't recognize them. Sounds like you guys like them. Do you know when they will be available and how much? Any additional info at all? Or should I contact PIG direct?

[PIG]

Yupyup, them there are the new BBCS-15 shocks..... I've been doing quite a bit of r/d with these things and finally got the valving where I like it. Here are some of the benefits of this shock absorber.

-15" Travel with poly bottomout bumper & AL bump cap.
-5/8" NitroSteel® shock shaft, won’t chip or flake like chrome.
-High pressure gas MONO TUBE construction that dissipates heat more effectively for increased seal life and durability.
-Durable powder-coated finish for the best corrosion resistance in the industry.
-Polyurethane bushings.
-Welds done with robotic projection welder for accuracy and consistent quality.
-Tube ends are rolled closed for leak-free construction… other brands have tubes that are welded closed.
-Large, 46mm degressive (both compression & rebound) piston.
-Viton seal and low friction piston rod bearing for long life and no leaks.

:fj: stay tuned to the vendors fourm for more info.

[ROCK HUGGER]

Yupyup, them there are the new BBCS-15 shocks..... I've been doing quite a bit of r/d with these things and finally got the valving where I like it. Here are some of the benefits of this shock absorber.

-15" Travel with poly bottomout bumper & AL bump cap.
-5/8" NitroSteel® shock shaft, won’t chip or flake like chrome.
-High pressure gas MONO TUBE construction that dissipates heat more effectively for increased seal life and durability.
-Durable powder-coated finish for the best corrosion resistance in the industry.
-Polyurethane bushings.
-Welds done with robotic projection welder for accuracy and consistent quality.
-Tube ends are rolled closed for leak-free construction… other brands have tubes that are welded closed.
-Large, 46mm degressive (both compression & rebound) piston.
-Viton seal and low friction piston rod bearing for long life and no leaks.

:fj: stay tuned to the vendors fourm for more info.


Sounds like some sweet shocks, can't wait to see how they do :smokin:

[Air Ride]

ready for competition

[TheBandit]

I know this is more than a year old thread, but I thought I'd say sweet job on the S/N 001 formula Toy. I spent hours eyeballing all the f-toys at the last Tin Benders Toyota Jamboree - bravo for kick ass work!

Any chance I could come visit and check out that kick ass mandrel bender? What size die sets do you currently have? I would love to see those tight radius bends being formed. Do you have to have a different mandrel for every wall thickness tube (different IDs) or does it expand for a range of IDs?

[Pook]

Camo are you guys making any changes for this year?