what is involed in doing this swap? is there a site i can hit for some info on this swap? site with tech and stats. and if i go this which tranies and transfer cases can be used?

thanks jeff

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a turbo-d would be pretty sweet.

Originally posted by sixfoot
what is involed in doing this swap? and if i go this which tranies and transfer cases can be used?



A Lot of junkyard scrounging is involved. Gotta have lots of parts from various VW's from what I've heard, and a starter from an Isuzu?

Keltec, manufacturer of the kit, evidently quit producing them. I think Petroworks is trying to produce a kit now.

Uses the stock tranny. The kit had an adapter plate kinda like the Suzuki 1.6L kits.

My buddy OILBURNER put the 1.9L diesel in his rig.... it's nice. It looks like it came from the factory like that.

Keltec made a Diesel kit a few years ago but they discontinued it .
They still have the web page with all the information about the Axis power conversion. good luck .

www.keltec.com/

My buddy OILBURNER put the 1.9L diesel in his rig.... it's nice. It looks like it came from the factory like that.

what i'm looking for is something in the 120 hp range. with more than 55 torq that you get in the stock sami engine.

that said how exactly did he go about doing this swap? can you use a different trans and what doner vehicle did it come from?

sorry for all the ? i'm new to samis just picked it up and am looking into upgrades. i've been playing with a 66 fj40 for 2 years and needed a offroad fix in a bad way:smokin: and sami seemed to answer
thanks
jeff

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Keltec is supposedly re-releasing their diesel kit through RRO.

Petroworks has a new kit coming out soon (or so I hear). It'll use either the stock Sam tranny or the JI (TracKick) tranny. Still not available from what I've heard but any day now.

I'm waiting on the Petroworks kit before I decide which one to get. Got a 1.6 TD that I want to use in a pick-up project vehicle as a work horse around the farm (snow plow, towing, etc.).

I have an adapter to mate the 1.6 t/diesel with a 92 tracker 5spd. I'm in the middle of the conversion right now (parts everywhere!!). I paid $250 for the adapter and the instructions, and can produce one for you for $100 which would include the adapter plate, pilot bearing, and instructions. The guy who made them is no longer doing it, and I won't have the exact 'shopping list' of all the various extra parts needed that the instructions overlooked until I'm done. Once I'm done I'll have detailed instructions because I've been documenting it all as I go through it and will be producing a kit (at a higher price).

have any idea how much you will be looking to get for the set up you will be selling?

e-mail me

thanks jeff
is it a possibility to get a adapter to a toyota 5 speed?

:smokin:

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has anyone looked into the possibility of an isuzu turbo 2.2 set up in their sami? there are a few turbo troopers in 86 around i hear.

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Hey sixfoot
time to check your email address




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sorry about the e-mail address. i didn't even remember that one was still open let alone on my profile. guess i better change the profile.:D :D

now for the task of changing the profile.

thanks jeff :usa:

Originally posted by sixfoot
sorry about the e-mail address. i didn't even remember that one was still open let alone on my profile. guess i better change the profile.:D :D

now for the task of changing the profile.

thanks jeff :usa:
my friend perry is don this swap and he will kow alot about it all. u can reah him at ppillard@macromedia.com
tell him cori sent ya.

Originally posted by sixfoot
What i'm looking for is something in the 120 hp range. with more than 55 torq that you get in the stock sami engine.


Toy 22RE: 120-130HP, 140 Lb-Ft torque.

And if you look real hard, you might find one bolted to a Toyota 5-spd and transfer case. It's real hard to find an 86-95 Toyota pickup. They only sold 2 or 3 in that 11 year period. :p

Just some more food for thought.

I'm going to do it backwards (someday :rolleyes:.) :
1. Part out toyota (keep the locked axles, crawler, whole drivetrain)
2. Buy Samurai, stretch to 100" wheelbase
3. Drop the Toy shitzu into it.
4. Exo cage the crap out of it.
5. GET IT!

Toy 22RE: 120-130HP, 140 Lb-Ft torque.

And if you look real hard, you might find one bolted to a Toyota 5-spd and transfer case. It's real hard to find an 86-95 Toyota pickup. They only sold 2 or 3 in that 11 year period.


this is my back up plan......i have leads on oh say about a thousand of them. i just thought the right turbo diesel set up would be nice.

thanks jeff

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why not just throw a sammy body on a toy frame!?! why go through all the trouble of transplanting all the stuff and just go buy a toyota and run that if you want all toyota running gear?? why go through all the trouble of doing a diesel rig and just do a 1.6 with a 6:1 t-case and d-44 axles?!? why not try...............

Because it won't be a suzuki that way. :p


Plus I want light. Did I mention light? The bigger gas tank, heavier frame, and a hundred litttle things help make a toyota heavier than a sammy. Plus I plan on keeping just enough of the frame to have a vin number and the body tub mounts. Everything else will go tube. But it doesn't matter - since this is a long way off. So back to the topic...

Enjoy the Yota / VW powertain - let us know if you start doing it, and post us some pics when you's done.

Originally posted by sixfoot
what i'm looking for is something in the 120 hp range. with more than 55 torq that you get in the stock sami engine.

Yeah, I'm in the middle of this swap. I have a 1.6L Turbo Diesel out of an '83 Rabbit that I'm preppin' for my sami. Stock power for one is 68 hp@4500rpm, and torque is 98@1800. I'm intercoolin' mine, and more than doubling my boost pressure, adding a K&N air filter and opening up my exhaust, which should put me at around 120-140 hp and possible 150 ft/lbs of torque. These mods won't affect my reliability and will actually INCREASE my fuel economy! I'm workin' on the conversion plate (usin' the stock sami tranny) in Cad and expect to have a prototype in a couple of weeks. It DOES take a helluva lot of parts from multiple vehicles. The engine is small and light, and packs a helluva punch stock. I can't wait to see what it'll yeild hopped up like I'm doin'.

This is the perfect engine (IMHO) for the zook. It's light, basically water-proof (you just need a snorkel for air, as there's no coil, spark plugs or electrics to seal up), and your fuel mileage is incredible. Furthermore, you can convert your engine to run on used vegatable oil, which you can score for free from any privately owned resturant! They last forever (provided you religiously replace the timing belt every 40K miles), and are really reliable. They don't miss at all when off-camber (since they're fuel-injected) or at high-altitudes.

It's a lotta work to get it into the vehicle. The kits are hard to find and really expensive (which is why I'm makin' my own), and there's the afore-mentioned multitude of parts you have to bastardize to make it work. The engines are pretty much non-existant in the south, but can be found pretty cheap up in the new England states. I scored the entire rabbit for $450, and it needed to have the head rebuilt (which I have had done). But the long-run benefits far outweigh the short-run pain in the ass (to me, anyway).

I have a ton of links to pages about the turbo diesel, and some with the swap recipe. email me if you want them. ppilard@macromedia.com.

I had a 1.6td rabbit pup....with rayjay turbo and fifth injector in the throttle body for extra juice on the hills BAE kit...sweet on the highway idling at 70 getting 55 mpg...sweet

I have a ton of links to pages about the turbo diesel, and some with the swap recipe. email me if you want them. ppilard@macromedia.com.


dude just post the best links here!....I am definately interested!

I have the 1.9td using the Keltec kit. Not much of the kit was of use - it used GEO Storm Auto trans starter. I don't think it balance the motor on the mounts very well, and the tranny seemed bound up from the extra weight flexing the case where the shift rods go back into the area above the trans mount. I love, love love the motor. 31 inch tires were making me geared too tall off road and on the highway fith gear was a fond memory. Now the highway gears are too low, and the off road gears are fine. The motor goes great with my ditch-witch tractor tires. I have left the motor stock so far - I here 120 horse is possible, but diesels make so much torque where you really need it they feel like lots more horsepower than the numbers will tell you. I would stay away from the Toyota diesel if you like light weight, btw, imho. I like the idea of a transmision from a tracker or toyota, though. The VW would work better with a one to one high range, too. I am thinking of the divorce toyota transfer case kit I have seen as the final answer for gearing, as long as the little samurai trans holds together. Oh, and ya gotta get a bigger radiator up front, the stock sam is borderline here in Alaska, and we don't get too hot even in the summer.
http://home.gci.net/~ddesigns/zuki
old front page on my site, links to the pics with the tractor tires, I need to get pics of the diesel up too I guess. I also made a GM alternator mount while I was at it. The mount with the Keltec kit was pretty feeble, I wanted a GM anyway, and the original Bosch wouldn't fit with the engine standing straight up.

Originally posted by NothernAZxj dude just post the best links here!....I am definately interested![/B]

OK, Here they are (I don't think any are dead now, but browse at your own risk!)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Audi-VW-Diesels/messages/3653
http://www.dieselpage.com/iss14.htm
http://www.treasurestate.com/diesel/isspro.htm
http://www.geocities.com/cvaf4u/bio/bio.htm
http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/jag/vw/engine/fi/timing.html
http://www.smothers.com/index.html
http://www.summitoffroad.com/diesel.html
http://www.volkswagen.org/EngineSwap/Default.htm
http://www.keltec.com/hardware/axis_prc.html (This is a list of parts needed for the TD Swap into the samurai.
http://www.volksweb.com/vwads/PartsForSaleCA.html
http://www.vwdieselparts.com
http://reality.sgi.com/rogerb/Diesel/
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/5067/
http://pages.cthome.net/gus/pictures.html Helps you hop up your boost pressure in your Turbo. Gives you a buttload more HP and improves your fuel mileage!
http://pages.cthome.net/gus/index.html This cat just knows a ton about TD's!

Oh, and ya gotta get a bigger radiator up front

This is only true with the 1.9L TD. The 1.6 TD has repeated handled Texas traffic in the heat of the summer with no problems using the stock sami radiator. If I coulda found me a 1.9 TD, I gladly woulda installed a bigger rad just for the extra juice.

Hope this helps!

looks like you have been doing your homework perry how far have you got on you zook. if you get a cahnce give me a call 817-819-0268 later mike

Maybe some of you haven't heard about Acme Adapters. Acme makes all the diesel swap parts you need for putting a VW turbo diesel in your Samurai or Sidekick.

The swap is not a difficult one. I've done several swaps using the Acme kit. You get unlimited tech support via phone and email. Its the best out there. Here's their site: www.acmeadapters.com

-d