....In everything I've ever seen en run in. You can watch the cv's @ the knuckle and it goes backwards when the truck is going forwards.

Sooo.. I'm either really lost or not thinking straight this morning. Wouldnt you have to run some weird t-case or rev. rotation motor to get the pinion spinning the wrong direction to spin the cv's backwards??? :confused: someone please enlighten me.

yeah cause there is another gear inside the knuckle which reversews the direction while reducing the gear ratio

yeah but. how does the pinion-axleshaft-cv rotate backwards to get the reduction gear to turn forwards? :rasta:

Edit: are you saying that there is a gear in the inner knuckle @ the end of the axleshaft before the CV?

edit2: going to search the exploded 404 diagram in BVs section. (guess i couldah started there to begin with eh?)

The pinion is on the other side of the ring gear than normal.;)

Sean

Originally posted by Station
The pinion is on the other side of the ring gear than normal.;)

Sean

BINGO. Thanks sean.. I knew i was missing something here.

I keep forgetting to bring the pics of my axles for you. damnit. Looks like me and you's be the only ones i know of running them. Still havent determined if they are 406, 416, or u-1300. but daaaaaaaaaaamn they are beefy. :D

Originally posted by sceep


BINGO. Thanks sean.. I knew i was missing something here.

I keep forgetting to bring the pics of my axles for you. damnit. Looks like me and you's be the only ones i know of running them. Still havent determined if they are 406, 416, or u-1300. but daaaaaaaaaaamn they are beefy. :D

How wide are they? 84" and they are U1300. U1300 don't come with drum brakes that i know of. 406/416 axles are 69" wide I beleive and come in Disk and drum versions. That's the quick and dirty way to tell what you have. How is it you have a set of mog axles and don't know what they are? Freebies?

newbie tech even :eek: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by BlueMoose


How wide are they? 84" and they are U1300. U1300 don't come with drum brakes that i know of. 406/416 axles are 69" wide I beleive and come in Disk and drum versions. That's the quick and dirty way to tell what you have. How is it you have a set of mog axles and don't know what they are? Freebies?

just got 4 of them this past weekend. delivered sight unseen. the price couldnt be beat . And they are ~69" with disks :D

Originally posted by sceep


just got 4 of them this past weekend. delivered sight unseen. the price couldnt be beat . And they are ~69" with disks :D

Sound like/406/416 then. Are you using them, or are you planning on selling? I need a pair of U1300 or 406/416s. What kind of shape are they in since it was sight unseen?

Originally posted by BlueMoose
Are you using them, or are you planning on selling?

if he decides to let a set go, ya better get in line :D

Originally posted by AZFord4x4


if he decides to let a set go, ya better get in line :D

baah hahaha. DOWN DOGS DOWN!!

I will be using the two fronts, and stealing parts off of the two rears.

They are in pretty rough condition, 3 sat with no pinion in them for a few years in TX. they were face down so they never filled up with water, but they did rust from the humidity. There is one perfect R & P but the other 3 arent all that great. Hopefully the bead blaster will work a miracle and clean them up decent. If not, I think that a few port-9's will be fabbed. I need to tear into them and see just how bad they are inside.

So 404's are the ones that are jeep width and only come stock with drums right?

Originally posted by liquidkool


So 404's are the ones that are jeep width and only come stock with drums right?


404 axle http://www.killeraxles.com/assets/images/Axle_Parts_036.xxl.jpg

406/416/u1300 axle http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1497789

as for widths and brake options I'm not real sure. I'm new to this portal world, and i jumped right into the deep end as you can tell.