: Macintosh question


ROKN ZJ
09-29-2003, 03:04 PM
If I need to upgrade from OSX to Jaguar, or panther or whatever do I have to buy a whole new operating system? Is my Mac going to make me upgrade the entire operating system on a regular basis?

TexasBlake
09-29-2003, 03:05 PM
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korda
09-29-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by ROKN ZJ
If I need to upgrade from OSX to Jaguar, or panther or whatever do I have to buy a whole new operating system? Is my Mac going to make me upgrade the entire operating system on a regular basis?

Jaguar was around $120 and I believe Panther will be around the same. You don't have to pay for small upgrades, they're up to 10.2.8 now. Panther is going to have some major features added (It'll be 10.3).

The systems cost about half price if you get it from the education store if you are or know a student/teacher.

How is your Mac making you upgrade? If you don't want to pay for a new OS then don't. I've got one running 9.1 and it hasn't said a word about wanting to go up to 10.3. :flipoff2:

ROKN ZJ
09-29-2003, 03:27 PM
Its not necessarily making me upgrade, but it keeps freezing on me. So while troubleshootig I found some alternative software that requires 10.2, and I figure its only going be the same in the future. I know a lot of software for PCs runs on multiple operatig systems, so like Windows 98, and 2000, and XP, so I was wondering if Mac operating software did this as well, or am I going to always need to upgrade as I buy newer software.

korda
09-29-2003, 03:39 PM
In the 7 or 8 years I've been using Macs I haven't found that to be the case. Usually new programs outgrow the hardware, not the software. I can't think of anything off hand that runs on Jaguar that wouldn't run on 10.1.

If you're computer is freezing on you then you've got some issues. I don't think mine or my wifes ever locked up or crashed after upgrading to Jaguar.

Mo
09-29-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by TexasBlake
http://www.britneyfans.com/images/jaguar.jpg

Bah!

rotozuk
09-29-2003, 11:01 PM
If you are asking if you will need to upgrade your other software when you upgrade the system, no, typically on the Apply stuff that is only when a major change is made (system 11.0).

If you are asking will you need to upgrade the system from time to time to take advantage of new software? The answer is sometimes. Just depends on what the program is. Internet based stuff likes the newer version of system software, same goes for the PC boys and girls.

Will apple keep charging you for system Upgrades? Oh YES. They have learned from Microsoft to stop giving away the operationg system. They started that back in system 7 or so, but got worse somewhere in system 9.

The bigger question is why is you Mac acting up? Mine has been very stable under all versions of 10. I do not let it run in classic mode at all. I keep an older Mac for classic mode (scanning station.) I usually leave the Mac on 24 hours a day, only getting shut down for long vacations and holidays. Not bad since I usually have 7 programs running at all times, sometimes that number climbs to 20 or more. she is a good little workhorse.

Figure out the issue and have a happy Mac. But if you want to stay current with the internet, then you will want to upgrade systems from time to time. (I usually adopt a new version only after it has been out on the market for a while. Let the others find any bugs..) Same goes for Windows upgrades.

-Wayne

Curly
09-29-2003, 11:10 PM
wow!!!! Can it be? Is it true? I'm not alone in my Mac world? I Have found Jaguar to be very stable for me and I recomend the upgrade, as for Panther I think I will wait and see how that goes before I take the leap. What machine do you have?

rotozuk
09-30-2003, 10:25 AM
I have a Dual 500 currently running 10.2.6 with out any problems. I imagine I'll stick with this system for a while as the performance is not far off the newer systems. I knew the dual processor would work a lot better with OSX, and it does.

You are not the only Mac user here.

-Wayne

ROKN ZJ
09-30-2003, 10:33 AM
I have a G4 with dual processors and 512megs of memory. The only software I've installed has been Final Cut pro, and DVDPro, and my Mac crashes regularly. Either FCP just closes on me. Or sometimes while exporting video in FCP or QT the program will freeze. Or sometimes I just get a bunch of error messages on the screen, and I have to reboot the whole machine.

I don't know what the problem is but why is that I finally buy a MAC after growing up with PCs I get a bum one? I always hear people like Chem who claim their mac has never crashed on them. I've only installed two pieces of software since purchasing it, and I only use it to edit movies, and burn DVDs of those movies....

OK I'm done venting. Basically y'all are saying my problem is not based on the OS, correct?

Hal

korda
09-30-2003, 10:52 AM
Sounds like a Final Cut Pro problem to me. Maybe a little research on www.macfixit.com is in order. I do remember reading about a handful of problems with it.

3Wheel_Drive
09-30-2003, 11:00 AM
Of course ur having probs Macs in general have probs. Sell it and buy a REAL PC. :flipoff2: Originally posted by ROKN ZJ
I don't know what the problem is but why is that I finally buy a MAC after growing up with PCs I get a bum one?
TRAITOR!!:flipoff2:

rotozuk
09-30-2003, 11:22 AM
Sorry, I do not use those apps. I work mostly in Photoshop and a handfull of other such items. But I usually have 10 programs running at any given time. Sure, sometimes a program will crash, but it does not hurt anything else. My mac will sometimes have an application crash in a manner that I am forced to reset the computer, but that only happens once or twice a year, and is usually from some flakey ass beta software I'm playing with.

I used to run only main line software, but the beta stuff is usually a little more fun, so it does find its way onto my hard drive, and I end up paying the price like everyone else.

I do avoid putting any sort of game on this station though. Games tend to bring all sorts of problems. Same goes for PC. Games do not belong on a work station, they belong at the home station.

-Wayne

ROKN ZJ
09-30-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by 3Wheel_Drive
Of course ur having probs Macs in general have probs. Sell it and buy a REAL PC. :flipoff2:
TRAITOR!!:flipoff2:

:rolleyes: :shaking:

Actually I'm not a big fan of Macs. The only reason I bought this one is because I learned how to edit on a Mac in class, and I like the FCP software. Thats why its frustrating when something goes wrong, because I don't know how to trouble shoot it. It took me forever to figure out how to force something to quit.

Anyway I didn't want to start a MAC v. PC debate, its just frustrating to me. Since I only use the MAC for one purpose and I can't get it to do that one thing right.

Halogrinder
09-30-2003, 06:38 PM
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ROKN ZJ
10-01-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Halogrinder
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watch what? :confused: