: registering vehicle for farm use


broncorob
12-11-2001, 05:26 AM
Yesterday I was getting insurance quotes so I could get the bronco back on the road. I got a quote online from my present insurance company for insuring it as a Farm vehicle. It came to about $5 for 6months. It doesn't give the vehicle any coverage in an accident but I still get my full liability on it. The truck isn't gonna see a whole lot of use, mainly too and from trails. I'm going tomorrow to renew the expired tags and stuff at the DMV. Anybody see a problem with having a Farm vehicle. The lady that signed me up at the insurance company didn't even hesitate.
:D

Scott@Rockstomper
12-11-2001, 06:51 AM
Just check your state laws on it... around here, a Farm Truck isn't "supposed" to be driven around town, but in-n-out (say, getting feed) is OK. Don't ask me how they enforce it, I have no idea. My experience is, they don't. There's other requirements too; I think Colorado requires that you own at least 10 acres and cultivate at least three, and you have to sign a declaration of that (again, they never actually check)....

The reason I say to check, is there's another classification in Colorado called Rec Truck (Recreational Truck) that I could've tagged my junk as. It's cheaper, but it prohibits you from using the vehicle for any business purposes... if I have Rec Truck plates and a Rockstomper windshield banner on the truck, I'm in some significant hot water with the highway patrol. They do enforce that... go figure.

Ken Carter / BRUISER
12-11-2001, 07:25 AM
You can also register a vehicle in North Carolina as a recreational vehicle and pay less in insurance if you want.
I believe they say that there is a restriction on how often you actually are allowed to drive it.
They say something like only so many days per week or something like that,
But I do not understand how they would really inforce it unless they keep a record of the mileage.

RoCkSkuLLz
12-11-2001, 07:39 AM
I would definitly like to find out more about this... Im sure here in Cali they'd still find a way to screw me over though.

BTW: does anybody know if there is a limit to how many "fix-it-tickets" you can get???

Cliffy [JD]
12-11-2001, 07:44 AM
I tried to register my blazer as a "RECREATIONAL VEHICLE" and the lady looked at me like Nice Try. Needless to say it didn't happen. If anyone is able to do it I'd sure like to know how.

pcorssmit
12-11-2001, 08:30 AM
In Colorado, I save about $35/year on my pickup by registering it as a Recreational Truck. Truck is a '97, last year was mid $200 range, around $180 this year. Basically, I just can't use it for commercial purposes. There is a certain GVW window where the rec truck plates apply (ie they don't help on a 1/2 ton). Don't know anything about cheaper insurance, though.

Pete

broncorob
12-11-2001, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Cliffhanger
I tried to register my blazer as a "RECREATIONAL VEHICLE" and the lady looked at me like Nice Try. Needless to say it didn't happen. If anyone is able to do it I'd sure like to know how.

Sounds like you need to go to a different location or keep going back until you get someone who doesn't know anybetter. It's a pain, but you know there's some dumba$$ in there that will not catch you :D

Scott@Rockstomper
12-11-2001, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by pcorssmit
In Colorado, I save about $35/year on my pickup by registering it as a Recreational Truck. Truck is a '97, last year was mid $200 range, around $180 this year. Basically, I just can't use it for commercial purposes. There is a certain GVW window where the rec truck plates apply (ie they don't help on a 1/2 ton). Don't know anything about cheaper insurance, though.


They said I could tag my dually as a rec truck, and it'd save me some money. I told them I used it to tow my 4x4, and that I make 4x4 parts for a living, and they said "nope, you can't rec-truck tag that."

They did say that it would be the same price to rec-truck plate my Toy, as regular plates. Since I already have custom regular plates, I saw no reason to pay to get custom rec-truck plates, or give my other plates back.

I did collector-tag my dumptruck, but it blew up long before the plates expire. But it was a '68.

As for insurance, my insurance company doesn't care what it's tagged as, they care what (and how often) it's used for. My Toyotas, are dirt cheap, because they're "driven less than 5k miles a year, for pleasure, by a married male over 25", my dually, is expensive (relatively speaking) because it's my primary transportation. Doesn't help that it's eleven years newer than my next newest pile, or that it's got full coverage (and everything else is liability only).

The Colorado GVW window where Rec Truck plates start to matter, is somewhere around 3/4T fullsize trucks. You can get 'em on any truck, but what it gets you is reduced road tax. Road tax is based on weight; the more you weigh, the more you pay.

In Colorado, the bonus to Farm tags is that it gets you out of emissions compliance *and* gets you way-reduced road tax. So my $200/yr regular plates, would be around $50/yr if they were Farm plates. Too bad I don't own that much land. :(

Jeepmangled87
12-11-2001, 10:27 AM
Hell here in texas they will inspect anyting and you can call it what you want! The cops here dont give a shit they actually do there job and catch criminals rather than look for rigs without insurance!:D :D

CSP
12-11-2001, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper
Just check your state laws on it... around here, a Farm Truck isn't "supposed" to be driven around town, but in-n-out (say, getting feed) is OK. Don't ask me how they enforce it, I have no idea. My experience is, they don't. There's other requirements too; I think Colorado requires that you own at least 10 acres and cultivate at least three, and you have to sign a declaration of that (again, they never actually check)....

The other thing about that is not just 10 acres. The land has to be zoned as agricultural and that info is available to the DMV people when you try to register a farm truck. If they enter an address for 10 acres which aren't ag use when you attempt farm plates it will set off buzzers for them to shut you down. Also, farm plates in Colorado are only for pickups or farm type trucks like grain haulers. No Broncos, Blazers, etc.. I have seen farm tags on a Samurai once though years ago.

welndmn
12-11-2001, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
Hell here in texas they will inspect anyting and you can call it what you want! The cops here dont give a shit they actually do there job and catch criminals rather than look for rigs without insurance!:D :D

Wait till someone Smashes up your nice car and they have no insurance, then you realise that the cops are doing thier jobs

Hayraker
12-11-2001, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by welndmn


Wait till someone Smashes up your nice car and they have no insurance, then you realise that the cops are doing thier jobs

We must have liability insurance to get on the road in Texas, but you can stick a slow moving vehicle emblem on the back and turn on your flashers and not worry about inspection, and registration, I'm talking about trail rigs of course, not daily drivers!

We don't need windshields, fenders, turn signals, blah,blah,blah, but you gotta have seatbelts:rolleyes:

pistol45
12-12-2001, 10:33 AM
i run farm tags on every damn thing i own. here in oklahoma it gets you a huge discount on taxes and tags. they are getting stricter now you have to have 35 acres of land and show some sort of agricultural product or cattle sales slip or something. use to all you had to do was go down to your local coop and sign up for a oklahoma agriculture tax exempt card. you have to have that at the revenue office to get the discounted taxes and tags. the only real thing that i think that they look at is your not suppose to drive outside a 150 mile radius from home but dont get pulled over and theyll never now!

saf-t scissors
12-12-2001, 07:32 PM
Dunno if you have tried to register it yet, but here's what the NC DMV says:

Issued to a truck that is used by a person who uses the vehicle solely for the purpose of raising and growing farm products on a farm in North Carolina not less than 10 acres in area and who does not engage in the business of bying products for resale

As to whether or not they check up on it... your guess is as good as mine. It can't hurt to try... :D

Lost_Soul
12-12-2001, 08:09 PM
Here in utah you can pretty much register anything as a recreational vehicle. My friend has two CJ5 registered that way. Of course you are not supposed to drive them on the road at all. I think the only thing you need to do is prove it can be used as a RV and they shouldn't give you any crap :skull: