: rear wheel wells are cut (pic)


borton
12-11-2001, 07:50 AM
what size tire should I run next time?

http://jeepinjunkie.com/remodel/Mvc-021s.jpg


more (http://jeepinjunkie.com/remodel2)

LAME
12-11-2001, 08:58 AM
Get the sixty's under there and run 38's :D

Lookin' good.

RoCkSkuLLz
12-11-2001, 09:09 AM
Lookin good are you going to run bigger tires now??

borton
12-11-2001, 09:38 AM
I was thinking about a bigger tire when these wear out, depends on if I can get as much room out of the front, maybe run the 37x12.5 17 ssr's on 17x10 wheels, any one know a place to get a 17x10 bead lock wheel?

Jeepmangled87
12-11-2001, 10:00 AM
why 17x10? why not 15x10? oh well do what you want:D looking cool.

Jakesteramalamajama
12-11-2001, 10:17 AM
Lookin good man!

borton
12-11-2001, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
why 17x10? why not 15x10? oh well do what you want:D looking cool.

when you run your tires at 5-6 lbs, the side wall flexes and wrinkles under the torque, this causes a bouncing affect especially on steep stuff and that robbs the traction, there for, less sidewall, less wrinkle, and less bounce. and I have noticed the diffrence between my 35x12.5 16's and a regular 15x12.5 15, so going a taller tire and not gaining much more sidewall is cool with me.

Po' riggity
12-11-2001, 12:27 PM
Looking good Brent, and I like the idea of a 17" rim.. Seems what you are describing, how less sidewall flex would help with the bouncing and loss of traction would really work.. I don't know of any companies that sell 17" beadlocks, but Im sure if you bought a 17" wheel, champion would beadlock it for you.
Scott :grinpimp:<><

Aggro
12-11-2001, 01:21 PM
I think the "bouncing" you're speaking of is a mysterious thing called AXLE WRAP!:flipoff2:

borton
12-11-2001, 01:51 PM
do ya think? I've got friends with this problem, running linked up rear ends, or a anti wrap bar, and 38's, you can see the side wall wrinkle then they hop and keep it up till they let off.

tons of side wall sucks in off camber stuff too, side walls roll under and make things that much more harry.

JeeperJake
12-11-2001, 02:31 PM
maybe thats an advantage of bias- ply?

- jake

borton
12-11-2001, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by JeeperJake
maybe thats an advantage of bias- ply?

- jake
the tires i've seen this the worst on were 38x12.5 & 14.5 15 swamper sx's.

BabyWrangle
12-11-2001, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Brent Orton


when you run your tires at 5-6 lbs, the side wall flexes and wrinkles under the torque, this causes a bouncing affect especially on steep stuff and that robbs the traction, there for, less sidewall, less wrinkle, and less bounce. and I have noticed the diffrence between my 35x12.5 16's and a regular 15x12.5 15, so going a taller tire and not gaining much more sidewall is cool with me.

Same thing with top fuel dragsters. Ever seen the footage of one taking off in slow motion? Same principle except they want it to happen to absorb some of the shock of 2000HP. Brent, I know what you're talking about because at 5-6psi my MT/Rs do it too.

borton
12-12-2001, 06:41 AM
I got a mag from mepco last night, to replace the 35x12.5 16 ssr's I have on there now, they are $232 each, to go with the 37x12.5 17 ssr's $207 each, not much diffrence, but it does add up.

RoCkSkuLLz
12-12-2001, 07:43 AM
Post some more pics when you get a chance Id like to show a buddy of mine...

borton
12-12-2001, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Rockbuggy
Post some more pics when you get a chance Id like to show a buddy of mine...
here are a couple I took last night after I finished the wheel wells,
http://www.jeepinjunkie.com/remodel/mvc-001s.jpg
http://www.jeepinjunkie.com/remodel/mvc-005s.jpg
and more here (http://www.jeepinjunkie.com/remodel.htm)

RoCkSkuLLz
12-12-2001, 11:07 AM
thanks! :D

Bgcj5
12-12-2001, 11:48 AM
Wow that thing look greta good job and keep us posted.

XJJack
12-12-2001, 01:38 PM
Looks good, Makes me want to open up mine, I think the only way you are going to get room in the front is to move that foward too. You can bend the seem over flushat make it smooth inside the front wheel well, but not alot of room, I haven't looked at making that biger. It seem it might be less work in the rear to cut the wells out of a full size truck and weld them in.

moabyj
02-27-2002, 09:24 PM
i know what you mean about sidewall bounce..the ssr's have soft sidewalls and i never go under 10lbs when i ran my sx's at 5 all day. but i wonder....isnt the point of airing down to make your sidewalls more flexible which relates to the better grip of the tire.
it seems to me that if you go to a 17 in rim that you just lose the flex u gained from airing down. i would like to see some in action and see how they work and i wonder what a cheap set of 17"' steel wheels go for.

':) :)

4x4extreme
02-28-2002, 12:55 AM
a newbie really used the search option

Mr.RatBastard
02-28-2002, 05:35 AM
Just wondering also...reducing sidewall flex w/17's couldnt you just reduce sidewall flex on the 15's w/a couple pounds of air ?It seems that getting the flex to the same tolerable degree ( to resolve your bouncing ) you would end up w/the same amount of grip either way ?

Welby
02-28-2002, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by BabyWrangle


Same thing with top fuel dragsters. Ever seen the footage of one taking off in slow motion? Same principle except they want it to happen to absorb some of the shock of 2000HP.

2000HP?? Try over 6,000 fawker :flipoff2:

Chrisjeep7
02-28-2002, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Brent Orton


when you run your tires at 5-6 lbs, the side wall flexes and wrinkles under the torque, this causes a bouncing affect especially on steep stuff and that robbs the traction, there for, less sidewall, less wrinkle, and less bounce. and I have noticed the diffrence between my 35x12.5 16's and a regular 15x12.5 15, so going a taller tire and not gaining much more sidewall is cool with me.

your right foot can also let up!
....more sidewall is a good thing lets the tire wrap around ledges.

Chris G.

borton
02-28-2002, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Chrisjeep7


your right foot can also let up!
....more sidewall is a good thing lets the tire wrap around ledges.

Chris G.
O'ok, and I run a tired old 4.0 with 200k miles on it, don't matter how hard I push on the gas, aint gettin no mo out of her, ever been on a steep smooth incline where all you could do is hop cause your tires were to low, guess not, cause you know all, :flipoff2:

borton
02-28-2002, 10:14 AM
and tell me this, why are people running 17's in competition if they don't work?


just noticed your from OK, that explains a lot, get out of the flat lands and learn a little :flipoff2:

Chrisjeep7
02-28-2002, 12:22 PM
get you head outa your ass and you will notice that noth eastern OK is not that flat! we dont know how to build em big in ok....STUPID (http://www.wagonermachine.com/wheelin_pics.htm) FAWK (http://www.extreme4wheelin.com/photo.htm)

i think you just dont get it!

DozerDan
02-28-2002, 12:30 PM
Nice. Got to love going at a perfectly nice vehincle with a saw.

That is really sweet.