Well I finally got a passenger side flat top off ebay for 22 bucks so I 'm ready for my steering and axle swap. I'm going to use my skyjacker lift springs with the springover but I'm wondering about the difference in width between the scout springs and the chevy springs. I know the perches will be too wide so I thought about building a u bolt plate that would cradle the narrow spring but have wide enough holes for the stock chevy ubolts. Anyone tried this? I don't want to grind the housing so I figured this would work. I can weld new perches on the rear housing no problem.
Forrest

Search newb Tom M did it.

Soo your planning to SOA with 4" SJ springs???

I searched and found nothing directly related. Yea I figured I'd try it with the SJ springs and see how it looked. If it looks too crazy I can always swap in some stock scout springs. I have all the pieces built for my shackle reverse so rather than rebuild them all I'm gonna stay with scout springs. I gave mine away but figured a stock set should be easy to come by. I could always pull a leaf or two out of these also. We'll see. Any idea on keywords to Toms rightup on his project?

Hmm, can't seem to find either. I used 2.5" .250 receiver stock and cut one flat off. Not as clean as fabbing a cradle. Just make sure you can fully clamp the spring without interference from the shims. Also look at upgrading your u-bolts to large ones.

Joe

Thanks for that. I you actually motivated me to look a little harder and I found it. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23965&highlight=narrow+spring. Now as far as drilling and tapping my passenger side knuckle I can machine it flat myself. My brother just purchased a CnC mill (a good way to spend 45,000 bucks) but will most machine shops be able to tap it?

Originally posted by DJForrestA
I searched and found nothing directly related. Yea I figured I'd try it with the SJ springs and see how it looked. If it looks too crazy I can always swap in some stock scout springs. I have all the pieces built for my shackle reverse so rather than rebuild them all I'm gonna stay with scout springs. ?

I'ts going to be a tall mofo. What tires are you going to run? 40"s on a 2" BS wheel?

Originally posted by Old Scout


I'ts going to be a tall mofo. What tires are you going to run? 40"s on a 2" BS wheel? No kidding!!:eek: What does that come out to, like 7"- 8" of lift???

I thought that just the soa itself was around 6" of lift? Plus another 4 that would be 10"s of lift.

7"-8" ?, shoot i got 7" out of my SOA with stock springs.
(not eyeballed inches, i acually measured from center of the hub to the fender on a stock scout and mine and took the difference)
his should be in the 9-10 area.
youll need at least 38's just to appear proportional.

I think it will be ubsurd also. I figured if it really sucked I'd just swap to factory springs. I'm already running 35's with no rubs. I did the forklift test a couple of weeks ago to finish some trimming and I don't rub anywhere at max articulation. Actually I'm probably dumb for swapping but this dana 44 and 14 bolt already have 4.56 gears so I'll get better axles, steering, and gearing. Hey that rhymes. I should be able to sell these skyjackers pretty easy if I have to go factory springs. It is my daily driver so I want it to be stable on the road. It drives great now but more is better right!

Why don't you try 2 1/2" SJ instead? Or, better yet, if the stock springs don't work for you, build a custom pack? I think that you are looking for trouble going for SOA and 4" list springs. Just for shits and giggles I put the Chevy 44 under mine with 4" Triangles just to see what it would look like before putting my "custom" pack under it. It was way too tall!!!

yea I thought about pulling a couple of leaves out of these skyjackers. I will probably just go with stock springs and call it good. I know there are some members of the IH community who need these springs so I'll share the wealth do some trading. I'm still wondering on drilling and tapping my right hand flat top. Is that a spendy job to have a machinest do? Like a said we have the mill just not the right tooling for that. We kinda blew the wad on the tools for building pumps so until we see the profits we can't buy any more tooling.

Just send your flat top to Parts Mike, he will ship you a milled one the same day he received your non milled knuckle.

He also has some of the best highsteer arms in the biz:
www.partsmikeparts.com

I would be interested in the springs if you decide to sell. Just bought another '78 Scout II and looking for springs if the price is right.

I had 4"ers under my other '76 Scout II with a springover but I was also running 38's then 39.5's. The lift springs actually help to make the suspension a little more stable on the trails but you do have to run at least 38's to make it look proportional. Still kept breaking main leaves, however. So I went to 4-link and coils.

Hey Slipscomb do you have any pics of your scout II;s that had the SOA and 4"springs with the 38 and 39 inch tires? If so could you post them I would like too see them.
Jared

Sorry, dont have a red star yet and my subscrip. is out from Montypics. Just click on my "www." at the bottom of my posts. The top five pics on the page are soa with 4"ers and 39.5s but they are on dana 60's and as little trimmin.

slip you bastid, you still won't send me wheelin pics of your junk the way it sat with coils and rockwells....and i want wheelin pics.

I've seen and wheeled with 2" springs on SOA and 4" springs, and they are not *that* way up there... but its really personal preferance and how its exicuted.

If he's running full-width Chevy axles, then the "high SOG" thing will be more of a wash, might look weird depending on his tire choise, but to each his own.


Club memeber has a SII, with 12" of lift, 38's, Scout width axles, and is plenty stable. Looks pretty good as well, he even tows a 35' travel trailer with it, and has for over 10 years (or so).

Ya just got to know how to drive it, not that it drives bad, from all reports it actually drives very well, you just got to know, on the street or trail, what it is your driving, and find ragged edge of it so you know what to feel.


Put a Stock Scout owner in my rig or probably many of the rigs here, and they're going to think its going to flop pulling out of the driveway, but many of us know damn well that they are ALLOT more stable than that..

Originally posted by snoop dogg
slip you bastid, you still won't send me wheelin pics of your junk the way it sat with coils and rockwells....and i want wheelin pics.

Sorry. My junk has been broke down since the weekend after the 4th of July. Blew the motor up again. Since then, went to Johnson Valley to help put on the ProRock Finals and sponsored a few events here in Oklahoma. Bought another right-hand-drive Scout as well and been tooling around with it (soa, SSII conversion, ect.).

I actually just dropped the new Vortec 3fitty in tonight. Will start plumming and wiring tomorrow. Will keep ya updated!

Capt. Lipscomb
RMS Titanic

Originally posted by DJForrestA
I will probably just go with stock springs and call it good.

Turns out I have a set of used stock springs that I'm trying to get rid of. If you know of a cheap way to ship them from Denver to Idaho, you can have them for an extremely cheap price.

(Bushings are gone.)
-Matt

here is my 800 with soa, minimal lift shackle reversal and skyjacker cj 4" springs on full widths with 38s with 8" rims and 4" offset . Real stable due to the increased width on the road but I haven't really wheeled it hard yet.
I may lower it a smidge (3")

I netted a total of 17" lift(WTF?) to the bottom of the frame over stock.

http://photos.imageevent.com/capaz/scouttechpics/large/107_0744.JPG




this is a 10 year spread between pics. stock and not


http://photos.imageevent.com/capaz/scout/large/scoutnalba%20copy.jpg


and here isa stoopid pic with all that lift and 33"s


http://photos.imageevent.com/capaz/scout/large/scout%20v3.0%20069.JPG

I have 10" of lift on my SII and with the full width axles it is way more stable then when it had 4" of lift and the stock 44s. Right now it just has 35"s which at full flex comes within a 1/2" of the fender When I get bigger tires I will Probably have to break out the sawzall

Originally posted by 75scoutCo
I have 10" of lift on my SII and with the full width axles it is way more stable then when it had 4" of lift and the stock 44s. Right now it just has 35"s which at full flex comes within a 1/2" of the fender When I get bigger tires I will Probably have to break out the sawzall

10" of lift that's it :rolleyes:



Welcome DAN :flipoff2:

Well I'm getting down to the nitty gritty on this now. I wonder if I'll have to cut and turn this Chevy axle? I'm going to try it with the skyjacker springs and go from their. I've already rounded up a set of stock springs so I can just switch them out if it looks or feels too crazy. I bolted in a set of 93 Cobra Mustang seats this weekend and they are awesome. What an improvement over the stock highback buckets. All i"ve got to do now is hook up the electric lumbar control and I'll be stylin. As far as wheel offset anyone know what hi steer arms will clear 16 inch wheels with 4 inches of backspacing? These are the last parts I need.