: 4.0 knocking when cold


thewoodscrew
10-23-2003, 10:44 PM
i've got a 95 xj 4.0 in my 87 yj. whenever i first start it up it has a slight knock untill it reaches about 160*+. other than that the engine runs like a raped ape, if i'm not careful, i'll lay a nice patch of rubber in first.

Dave C
10-23-2003, 11:48 PM
what kind of oil/filter are you running? Too light oil can cause that and i've heard frams can restrict oil pressure on startup as well.
Other than that, if it's a high mileage motor, worn oil pump, bearings, etc. Oil pump can be changed without pulling the motor sometimes.
Get a real oil pressure gause, it can tell you what kind of pressure you're running, that will help you figure out whats going on.

NOODLES
10-24-2003, 12:49 AM
does it have over 100,000 miles on it? if so i does not get worse they all do it.

Jason R
10-24-2003, 12:55 AM
Mine does it too. I use 10w30.

And I have replaced the oil pump EASILY w/o pulling the motor. :rolleyes:

Wideopen
10-24-2003, 05:21 AM
If it knocks when it's cold i doubt it's a bearing..
Probabley piston slap...

85runnerAZ
10-24-2003, 07:33 PM
You still have time to sell the jeep and buy a Toyota!!!:flipoff2:

P&T Jeeps
10-25-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by 85runnerAZ
You still have time to sell the jeep and buy a Toyota!!!:flipoff2:

lets see, an appropriate answer....

.......shut the fawk up!












:flipoff2:, had to, too many :beer:'s.

NothernAZxj
10-25-2003, 11:38 PM
You still have time to sell the jeep and buy a Toyota

He doesn't need a boat anchor, we use toyotas for rock crawling practice, they make for good traction

Robert
10-26-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Dave C
Oil pump can be changed without pulling the motor sometimes.


Why would you need to remove the engine to replace the oil pump in a Jeep:question:

85runnerAZ
10-26-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by NothernAZxj
You still have time to sell the jeep and buy a Toyota

He doesn't need a boat anchor, we use toyotas for rock crawling practice, they make for good traction


So you are one of the :rainbow: guys who thinks its cool to drive over cars and stuff....have you ever seen the rocks? :flipoff2:

Seriously though, are there any decent trails around flagstaff? I lived there for almost 2 yrs and all I could find was forest service roads.

charlo
10-26-2003, 12:22 AM
I have a 95xj with a 4.0. She knocks on start only the first time she fires on startup. I have run all oils from 5-30 to strait 40 with no change. Never ever had a knock besides that. Even when idiot light came on and she was running at 250* or what ever it comes on at. :confused:

Charlo

thewoodscrew
10-26-2003, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Dave C
what kind of oil/filter are you running? Too light oil can cause that and i've heard frams can restrict oil pressure on startup as well.
Other than that, if it's a high mileage motor, worn oil pump, bearings, etc. Oil pump can be changed without pulling the motor sometimes.
Get a real oil pressure gause, it can tell you what kind of pressure you're running, that will help you figure out whats going on.
i'm running castrol syntec 10w30 and a fram filter. i'm not sure how many miles it has, i bought it from a salvage yard and they didn't know. i'm about due for an oil change, any suggestions for a filter? my pressure guage reads within the specs in the manual.

thewoodscrew
10-26-2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by 85runnerAZ
You still have time to sell the jeep and buy a Toyota!!!:flipoff2: toyotas are for high school chicks to cruise the mall in.

:flipoff2:

just kiddin man, actually i'm looking for a taco or an f1shitty as a daily driver. but you know how that goes, first its bigger than stock tires then a lift to fit even bigger tires, then shit starts breaking left and right 'cause you beating on it more and more as each mod is done.

SR5Dave
10-26-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by thewoodscrew

i'm running castrol syntec 10w30 and a fram filter. i'm not sure how many miles it has, i bought it from a salvage yard and they didn't know. i'm about due for an oil change, any suggestions for a filter? my pressure guage reads within the specs in the manual.

If it were my Toyota my first instinct would be valvetrain and to add some oil.

preach
10-26-2003, 10:34 PM
how many miles?

I agree with Wideopen. At least leaning that way.

Piston slap's a bitch. I'd run it though and plan something newer or different.

SR5Dave
10-26-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by NothernAZxj

He doesn't need a boat anchor, we use toyotas for rock crawling practice, they make for good traction

Oh, and... I'll be in Flagstaff in a year, so BRING IT :flipoff2:

85runnerAZ
10-27-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by SR5Dave


Oh, and... I'll be in Flagstaff in a year, so BRING IT :flipoff2:

Have him come down to Table Mesa and we'll both kick his ass.

85runnerAZ
10-27-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by SR5Dave


Oh, and... I'll be in Flagstaff in a year, so BRING IT :flipoff2:

Have him come down to Table Mesa and we'll both kick his ass. I'll be in Table Mesa on the weekend of the 8th. We could take him through terminator, 6th day, armageddon, and many others.

SR5Dave
10-28-2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by 85runnerAZ


Have him come down to Table Mesa and we'll both kick his ass. I'll be in Table Mesa on the weekend of the 8th. We could take him through terminator, 6th day, armageddon, and many others.


Sounds sick :D..... in a year ;)