Several here have expressed problems or concerns with drag link contacting your beloved dual sump oil pan on your high steer setup.:D Seems as the current popular solution is some way big bump stops to keep them from becoming too intimate.

A couple days ago I came across a vendor who makes a Scout length high steer arm (I can't remember where though - I have a serious case of CRS) to use with a Scout pitman arm.

Right now my engine is setting on a stand so I can't take any measurements.

Whada ya think? Help? Hurt? No difference?

Might help with the oil pan, but I think the problem would become the pitman/draglink hitting the driver's side spring.

Originally posted by Ben W
Might help with the oil pan, but I think the problem would become the pitman/draglink hitting the driver's side spring.
That would be the case in my situation. If the steering arm were any longer, the tie rod and drivers side spring would definately be competing for the same space.

That's what I thought and I had already picked up a waggy arm.

So would it pay to go to a T'all or PU pan and oil pickup? Or is it not that big a deal?


BTW, half way home I remembered where I saw the long steer arm. Bonz arms at D&C Extreme (http://www.dandcextreme.com/product.asp?pkID=121) .

I am running avalanche arms on my set-up, I did lose some turning radius due to them being a little shorter, not extremely noticeable, but if I had it to do over again, I would go with longer ones. I have never had a problem with the draglink interfering with the oil pan, but I do have a tall reverse shackle setup that probably helps. I have been wanting to go to a pick-up oil pan just to lose the hump and have one drain plug instead of two, but I don't think it is necessary.

If I'm understanding your question correctly-
That arm your looking at replaces a standard(shorter) high steer arm for the top of the passenger side knuckle. This probably won't help you oil pan clearance. It only moves the drag link a bit forward on the bottom end.
Every rig is a bit different so it's possible it would help but probably not.
A truck oil pan would definitely make things worse.:)

Originally posted by Binder
If I'm understanding your question correctly-
That arm your looking at replaces a standard(shorter) high steer arm for the top of the passenger side knuckle. This probably won't help you oil pan clearance. It only moves the drag link a bit forward on the bottom end.
Every rig is a bit different so it's possible it would help but probably not.
A truck oil pan would definitely make things worse.:)

Yeah like an inch and a half along with the long Scout pitman arm. Just a thought (or brain fart) and like I said, my engine is out now so I didn't know how much it would change things, including spring clearance.:D

How would a truck oil pan make things worse?

With my "fang" RS and 44044s and some good, only as long as they need to be, bump stops I can't see the pan hitting the axle housing. I was more concerned with the drag link hitting.

Maybe the drugs are affecting me more than I thought.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by scoutver5.7


How would a truck oil pan make things worse?

flipoff2:

The truck pan is a front sump so it would be more in the way than the scout double sump which has a smaller sump in front.:)

Originally posted by Binder


The truck pan is a front sump so it would be more in the way than the scout double sump which has a smaller sump in front.:)

OH :rolleyes: I thought it was rear sump.

IIRC, there is a rear sump truck pan as well. But a Scout II pan is a rear sump pan with and extra chunk taken out in the middle. The rear sump pan looks just like the Scout II pan without the extra dent in the middle. Then there are the more common front sump truck pans.

Like Torc alluded too, the 74/75 IH PU/T-all pans are "rear sump" as are our Scout pans, they are pretty much identical to Scout pans but with out the recess/hump in the middle for the axle.

Good for a little more oil capacity, and easier changes, but thats about it. Bolt on swap to.

With my RS and 44044, I have not had a contact issue, other with non RS's have, but it also depends on were your arms and pitman arm put the rods.

Helps that my front axle if forward about 2-3", almost a must for a RS and large tires.