: axle id ??


elsaharaboy
11-12-2003, 02:53 PM
i just had a thought reguarding a truck in my grandfathers junk pile. anyways its a 70s ford p/u, i beleive its a 150 but who knows, he said he got it and the engine has issue but doesnt know exactly what, i was wondering about the axles, this looks like a 1/2 ton but could be 3/4, anyone know what they are and if so would they be of use for my jeep???

elsaharaboy
11-12-2003, 02:56 PM
oh and what about tranny and t-case?????

CumminsBronco
11-12-2003, 03:08 PM
3/4 ton will be 8 lug, D44 frt and 60 rear. 1/2 ton will be 5 lug, D44 frt and 9" rear. tranny most likely an np435, Tcase most likely a np205. Trans is good, will have a 6.69 1st gear. Tcase will be 1.96 or so low range, very strong case but not geared very low.

elsaharaboy
11-12-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by CumminsBronco
3/4 ton will be 8 lug, D44 frt and 60 rear. 1/2 ton will be 5 lug, D44 frt and 9" rear. tranny most likely an np435, Tcase most likely a np205. Trans is good, will have a 6.69 1st gear. Tcase will be 1.96 or so low range, very strong case but not geared very low.

ok what about gearing in the axles???

Jrod-13
11-12-2003, 03:38 PM
if its a F-250 it may have a dana 60 front. T-case is either a 205 or 203. tranny is a 435 if its a stick, or a C-6 if its an auto.

gearing will more than likely be a 3.50

alx
11-12-2003, 03:46 PM
did you guys forget about the dana 21 :flipoff2:

ksbronco
11-12-2003, 03:47 PM
there are also quite a few with 4:10s. 2 of the three parts trucks I have bought have been 4:10. No good way to tell without taking them apart that I know of.
Depending on the year it could have disk breaks and high pinion up front. I think 76 or 77 is when the disks started.

ksbronco
11-12-2003, 03:52 PM
Oh yeah, dana 21 (worthless) or if it is old enouph it could have divorced style 205, 203 or Dana 24. It could also have mated 203 case. I didn't know if you specified if it was a manual tranny but if is an auto it is a C-6. If it is a 205 it will be about 13" long and have a small plate on the back with three bolts. If it is a 203 it will be about 2sum inches long with an aluminum tale housing. If it is a 21 it will have a shifter that only says 2 and 4 wheel drive because it has no low range.

CumminsBronco
11-12-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Jrod-13
if its a F-250 it may have a dana 60 front. T-case is either a 205 or 203. tranny is a 435 if its a stick, or a C-6 if its an auto.

gearing will more than likely be a 3.50

It would help to know the year, lots of changes through the 70's. It could be a 60 frt.......could....not likely though. Assuming it was a SnoFighter series from 78/79. The 60's used prior 77.5, from 75-77.5 are not very desirable. They have 30 spline inners, 19 spline outers, and a host of other problems. Just in case though, do you know how to tell a 60 from a 44 frt?

Jrod-13
11-12-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by alx
did you guys forget about the dana 21 :flipoff2:

bah. who cares about the single speed junk:flipoff2:

Originally posted by CumminsBronco


Just in case though, do you know how to tell a 60 from a 44 frt? 60's have larger hubs, and a larger diff.

elsaharaboy
11-12-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Jrod-13


bah. who cares about the single speed junk:flipoff2:

60's have larger hubs, and a larger diff.


hahaha thanks but i did know lol kinda obivous but thanks

Mr.N
11-12-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by elsaharaboy


ok what about gearing in the axles??? My guess is, yes it will have gears in the axle, most likelly the stock ones.


Hint:
Post the BOM, aka: B.O.M.

Mr.N
11-12-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by elsaharaboy



hahaha thanks but i did know lol kinda obivous but thanks
I've known more than one person to be fooled into thinking an Axle was a 60 because of large hubs and it turned out to be a Heavy Duty Dana 44.

jaluhn
11-12-2003, 11:30 PM
Even the light suty 44's have large hubs. I have one right now that's off a 73 1/2, and has the large hubs characteristic of a 60, athough they taper about 1/2", so the outside end of th3e hub is smaller. Very odd looking.
-John

Mr.N
11-13-2003, 12:22 AM
I'll find a pic..

Mr.N
11-13-2003, 12:26 AM
Pic from some page, It's a Dana 60 hub

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/Dana44HDF250hubtape.jpg

Got some on this I bet, it's a Dana 44 HD from my article on Dana 44's

speedo
11-13-2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Mr.N
Pic from some page, It's a Dana 60 hub

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images/dana44/Dana44HDF250hubtape.jpg

Got some on this I bet, it's a Dana 44 HD from my article on Dana 44's

That is a Dana 44 hub.

Gus

AZFord4x4
11-13-2003, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by CumminsBronco
Just in case though, do you know how to tell a 60 from a 44 frt?

Really easy, if it's open knuckle. Look at the steering arm on top of the knuckle... 3 bolts = D44, 4 bolts = D60
if it's closed knuckle then D44 = junk, & D60 = junk :D

P|n-BaLL
11-13-2003, 06:02 AM
Here is a Dana 60 lockout.

ksbronco
11-13-2003, 08:41 AM
What is so hard about looking at the u-joint? It is obvious what you are looking at. if it is closed knuckle it is really not worth swapping into anything IMO.

Mr.N
11-13-2003, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by speedo


That is a Dana 44 hub.

Gus
High light the whole post, and you'll see what I posted in black text. :D Go to have some fun.