So now that I have the full width axles on the YJ, and I took down about :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: 's doing so. How do I move it around? The jeep barely fit on the trailer with 35x15.5 on cut down d44's. With the full width axles, no way especially with 38.5x14.5.

So does anybody have any pics, or sources for some monster width trailers.

Thanks

I use a deckover gooseneck trailer, i think the deck is 102" wide.

CJ

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
I use a deckover gooseneck trailer, i think the deck is 102" wide.

CJ

Hey Lagos, this isnt on topic but post some pics of your jeep out wheelin. I have never seen that thing other than when you were building it... I wanna see some action photos

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
I use a deckover gooseneck trailer, i think the deck is 102" wide.

CJ

I thought the widest you could legally be wqas 96" without using a wide load sign...or do you...or maybe its different in VA???

With my Flatty, I was 87" wide. I just drove over the fenders. I had about 1/2 of each 38" swamper hanging off the sides, but it only fell off once. I was driving at about 1am down a dirt road with the truck on the trailer behind the tow rig. I was doing close to 50 miles per hour, and my girlfriend told me to look back. The fawking truck fell off the trailer. TOOOOOO funny.

Dimitri

Originally posted by Rockbuggy


Hey Lagos, this isnt on topic but post some pics of your jeep out wheelin. I have never seen that thing other than when you were building it... I wanna see some action photos
Im with Rockbuggy on this one.. I don't get it. Ive never even HEARD of you going out wheelin, then I asked in a different post to see some pics of you wheelin, and you don't have any, yet you are selling your 60's to go to rockwells, for a jeep that sees the front lawn for wheelin? :rolleyes: :D

I'm telling you Matt just drive over those damn wheel wells, it's only a $500 junkyard trailer. Or if you really wanted to you could carry a set of rims or small tires for when you pack it on the trailer. Call me tonight :rainbow:

The bobcat trailer is TOO narrow, we measured it all out yest. The tires would stick off the trailer about 4" on each side, plus this trailer has 4" tall walls on each side. I am sure that would be great to leave the tires resting on a 3/8" thick 4" tall wall. DUHH...... Kev how are you going to keep those fenders on your trailer from collapsing, they are super thin sheet metal. I assume your going to plasma cut those off and weld on some really strong 1/4" plate replacements.

can always flat tow with a towbar, that what i have been doing. i have tires i bolt on for towing to not wear down the boggers. i will do this till i can afford a 5th wheel trailer. it sucks changing the tires, but yah gotta do what yah gotta do

In Washington, if your tires are touching the road, the vehicle HAS to be street legal, and licenced of course. That would pose a problem with the tow bar idea. You may not get pulled over, or may not care if you do, but it is a possibility. I don't know if that is Washingtons strick law or if it federal. When I start towing my Jeep it is going to be by tow bar until I can get a trailer. It is not completely street legal, but I'll have to take my chances to go Jeepin. Since I cut my front fenders flat, I have no turn signals on the fenders any more. My 33x12.5's stick out of my wells, like 5 inches. My rear view is cracked, my speado don't work, and my front left blinker does not work. I think the reason they don't pull me over and tee off on me, is because we travel in packs.
Dats wat I think.
Shaggy

Supergper,

It might be 96", I can't remember....


Rockbuggy & 1badjeep,

Tough crowd. I don't like taking about this on this thread but oh well...

Try being a fulltime student going to school 5 hours from home with a hobby like this!. I started building the Jeep as you see it over Christmas break of last year. Didn't get a whole lot done so I had to wait until I got out of school in early May. So...didn't get done building it until late July. By then I had missed the main wheeling trips we go on(I went a rode with friends)...we goto Rosser and Tellico in late may, and a bunch of other events during june and july. In August we didn't go anywhere and I had to start getting ready to go back to school so didn't get any wheeling in.

Now that it's december again, I'm thinking of doing this other building up to change some things around and use a new motor. If i'm doing all this work might as well switch axles at the same time. I'm transfering schools and going to one much closer to home...so now I can work on it on a regular basis. I'll be done in time for our trip to Rosser/Tellico in late may.

I've taken it out a few times to some local stuff but there isn't much around here, got to travel everywhere. Haven't taken any pictures while I'm out though. I've got tons of pics of the Jeep with 35's if you want those.

CJ

You could build some wooden ramps to place against the fenders to take the majority of the weight when you drive over them. You could also use 4x4's to park the Jeep on so the tires won't be resting on that lip. I towed mine to Badlands with about 4" of tire hanging off on each side. Just make sure you tie it down good.

Originally posted by Matt K
The bobcat trailer is TOO narrow, we measured it all out yest. The tires would stick off the trailer about 4" on each side, plus this trailer has 4" tall walls on each side. I am sure that would be great to leave the tires resting on a 3/8" thick 4" tall wall. DUHH...... Kev how are you going to keep those fenders on your trailer from collapsing, they are super thin sheet metal. I assume your going to plasma cut those off and weld on some really strong 1/4" plate replacements.

you have 4" walls on the trailer.............
your tires stick out 4"
why not make the walls hinge down???
or make the walls (tube I assume?) drop into recievers so that you can mount them either straight up for Bobcat use or flat down sticking out level with the deck to park the tires on............

BTW I am in the same boat as you (I have schedule 40 pipe fenders on my trailer that I drive over ...........)

Matt, I'm not sure what I'm planning on doing. You're right my fenders are paper thin sheet metal so if I would drive over them they're toast. The only thing is that I have the slots on the side of my trailer for walls. I'm thinking of having some fender wells/ side extensions cooked up that would drop into these 2"x4" slots. It wouldn't be cheap, but it's cheaper than buying a new trailer when this ones 6 months old. As for you, if you don't like the tires hanging off that's one thing, but if that doesn't bother you then break out "Gonzo" and saw those f@$ckin walls off, then you're set. It's cheap and effective. Hell, I don't even think I'll fit on my trailer now because of the new wheels. I might be about 1" too wide, if that's the case I've got a 16 lb sledge that'll creat some space between those fenders.

By the way, I'll be back on the 22nd, heading out to Attica for testing on the 23rd, then whoopin it up 26th-30th. What days are you guys coming down? My Dad's got plenty of :beer: :beer: :beer: and he's jacked to have a street full of Jeeps with people staying at the house. Kosta said he'll be there too, new engine and all.

I cannot cut off the walls of the trailer because the are the structural support of the bitch. My trailer hinges back to let the poorl articulating bobcat drive up. It hinges right back to the ground. For the trailer to do this they used 4" angle iron 3/8" thick to define the edge of the trailer. Those walls, are not just coming down.:beer: So I either fill the bottom of the trailer and riase it 4" and then weld on sides or get another trailer.

In WA state, the legal trailer width limit without extra fees is 96". You can go out to 108" and pay an extra wide trailer fee, but I don't think that is "extra wide" and requires the use of signs and a chasesr vehicle.

Keep in mind, driving all over the place with a trailer that wide could turn in to a bitch. There are bridges out there on hwy's that you would be too wide to cross.

I have a 8'x16' flatbed trailer. The deck of the trailer sits at about 32" tall so the tires fit underneath it. would think96" wide is all you would need. (hard to imagine even a rock buggy wider than that) the other thing you could do, is add those swing out arms on the trailer like they do on semi trailers for cats, etc.

What brand trailer do you have. I havn't seen many where the wheels are underneith the trailer. because 96" is plenty wide. I believe all my buds have 81" as best I recall

Matt, I was thinking the walls were just that, and not part of the structure supporting the flat bed, I guess your screwed:flipoff2:

You cold always paint that thing nice, sell it for around $800 and buy a new one. Or you could cut down those axles to bout 62" and fit nicely, like I will be doing.

What days are you guys coming down? Figure it out so I can hit the liquor store.

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
Supergper,

It might be 96", I can't remember....


Rockbuggy & 1badjeep,

Tough crowd. I don't like taking about this on this thread but oh well...

Try being a fulltime student going to school 5 hours from home with a hobby like this!. I started building the Jeep as you see it over Christmas break of last year. Didn't get a whole lot done so I had to wait until I got out of school in early May. So...didn't get done building it until late July. By then I had missed the main wheeling trips we go on(I went a rode with friends)...we goto Rosser and Tellico in late may, and a bunch of other events during june and july. In August we didn't go anywhere and I had to start getting ready to go back to school so didn't get any wheeling in.

CJ

Hey CJlagos, Im busy as hell too. I work 2-jobs total of 55 hours a week, night school 3 classes, but theres always time for wheelin :D I was just wondering why you were getting rid of your Dynatrac when you havent even had a chance to thrash them :D

Originally posted by Matt K
What brand trailer do you have. I havn't seen many where the wheels are underneith the trailer. because 96" is plenty wide. I believe all my buds have 81" as best I recall

brand of trailer... hmm... well there isn't one, it was a farm implement made from a mobile home type frame. (like a construction site mobile home) So imagine those trailers you normally tow behind a dump truck... it's kinda similar in design, just alot lighter. It's only made out of 4 2x6x.125 and one 2x7x.125 I-Beams with cross braces. :D

Catch is the deck is really tall, I've talked to people towing their rigs on similar trailers and they said no big deal.. but thats all I know.

I've been shopping for a new trailer to haul my tractor and jeep, so have some prices, at least in the Spokane area. A basic 18'x7' (wheels on the outside) 10,000 lbs load capacity trailer with ramps and brakes on both axles runs about $1600. If you need to go wider, an 18'x8' trailer (wheels under the deck), also with ramps, brakes on both axles runs about $2600. If you drop down to a 7,000 lbs trailer and shorten to 16 ft it should be cheaper. I need the weight rating and length for a 7000+lbs (4wd of course) tractor with loader.

Why not stack 3 - 2x10 lengthwise down inside of the trailer next to the angle iron supports and bolt some 4x4x3/8 angle to the outside of the angle iron frame. The 3 - 2x10 would be approx 1/2" higher than the walls, taking the structural load off of them. Make some removable fenders and just drive over the trailer tires and then replace the fenders back on. Won't cost more than $100 to do this.

Originally posted by badgoat
I've been shopping for a new trailer to haul my tractor and jeep, so have some prices, at least in the Spokane area. A basic 18'x7' (wheels on the outside) 10,000 lbs load capacity trailer with ramps and brakes on both axles runs about $1600. If you need to go wider, an 18'x8' trailer (wheels under the deck), also with ramps, brakes on both axles runs about $2600. If you drop down to a 7,000 lbs trailer and shorten to 16 ft it should be cheaper. I need the weight rating and length for a 7000+lbs (4wd of course) tractor with loader.

My trailer cost me $500 or so... will cost me another $1000 to replace the axles, get to a non-california wheel style bolt pattern, and get the trailer brakes back. That will make my trailer have a 8'x16' deck with about a 12,000lb load capacity. The deck can take the weight, and a 2-5/16 hitch should get me close to the capacity.

Bonus, when it's not hauling the jeep, it's big enough to haul damn near anything I could want, including easy loading of pallets.

Matt, I like the idea from jasonmt. Something like that would be cheap and effective. Besides your trailers not pretty anyway :flipoff2: . Is it still that :barf: green color?

Welding on extensions onto the sides of my trailer doesn't sound like a bad idea. I think I will take a look around and see how much a couple :flipoff2: feet would cost.

After sitting outside during the last year, its more of a rusty green now. :flipoff2:

I just drive over the fenders of my bumper hitch trailers which are 82" between the fenders. Both of my rock rigs are 92" on the outside.
I did however just buy a 40' gooseneck that is 102" wide so I can haul my overhead camper on the front of it and both my jeeps behind the camper.