Go here. (http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/bendin_tube)

Hope it helps some of you guys.......

Now I can go use that bender that some one left in my front yard.

Thanks:D

That was a very good write up! Thanks for putting the time in to make a detailed write up. It will help a lot.

Great article, thanks much. That'll save me a lot of headaches and trial and error. Early Xmas gift.

Now how much do you want to sell that used bender for? I've got a case of :beer: if your interested. Looks like time for a new one so I'd be doing you a favor.

The new Bender KICK ASS, but No matter how nice the new one is, the JD is still used!!...

Rob, i got your pm and your mail box is full. so ill respond here, i read teh entire write up and it loks pretty simple and cut and dry, i liek it and would referr to it! jiMMy

Right On Rob! Thanks a million! Reading throught the "how-to" manual isn't my idea of fun...This is just the ticket to get me started...Now how about a compound lession? :) :beer:

--D

Nice Rob, real nice. I guess I should buy a bender to cage my junk, especially if I'm going to roll it anymore :D:D:D:D.

Damn! Great article, Rob! You managed to explain an extremely complex job in a very simple way. Thanks, :bender: Boy!

Mike

that's great!!!
thanks for taking the time to do it.
can't wait for 'bendin'102':smokin:

Looks like i'll have you build my exo.

great article, i'm glad you wrote it at a level even jeepskickass could understand:flipoff2:

Originally posted by it'll fit
great article, i'm glad you wrote it at a level even jeepskickass could understand:flipoff2:

Hey, Ken! Check your fuses lately?

What are you doing tonight? There's a meeting (we think) about a possible closure of Azusa Canyon. Several of us are planning on heading out. I'll PM my phone number to you.

Yeah, great write up and just in time. I will be taking arrival of my one-shot next Friday.

Thanks again!!

Thanks for taking the time to do a quality write up.

My father-in-laws a retired sheet metal guy, hes always laying stuff out on the floor like that, and somehow that fawker always gets to within an 1/16 usually a 1/32 of an inch of where he needs to be.

There is ALOT to be said about OLD SCHOOL....:skull:

Thanks for the lesson in tube bending. My bender should be here in 2-3 weeks I will have to give it a try

That was one of the best write ups that I have seen. Very informative from a real world perspective. Thank you and have a :beer:

Kick ass article TB. Now when I make a mistake I'll know exactly what I did wrong.:D

Originally posted by it'll fit
great article, i'm glad you wrote it at a level even jeepskickass could understand:flipoff2:

Yea, even I understood it..

Thanks guys, Great tech. Now can you teach me how to weld?
:D

see even it's simplest form it is a great reminder why i pay people to do my tube fab work. i am a retard. nice write up TB it seems like a great start for tubing newbies. as for me i think i will just pay you to do my bending :D


how about a fish mouthing 101 class?

I think the next Tech I write will be........

perfect "S" cage bends 101...:flipoff2:

yeah my fuses are fine, :p now if i could learn to route my wire where they are not going to interfear with anything.:( Oh and my water pump seems to have a little drip:mad: but other than that runs like a dream.:D

To those that had a hand in writing the article and getting it uploaded for all of us to read, THANK YOU !

cm "do I have to bow?" k

Tin bender thanks alot for the bendin info. Should help me out a lot.

I think the REAL test comes when we see if DEL TACO can understand it.........LOL

Nice job on the write up:cool:
But you took my spot on the front page:flipoff2: The trash trailer was mine.

Originally posted by Tin Bender
I think the REAL test comes when we see if DEL TACO can understand it.........LOL


sure i did!

im just not sure what all the words were all about that were between the pictures.

:flipoff2:

Thanks man,

I have been thinking about taking that step and getting a bender but was just so baffled by how to use it that I was going to give up.

Well now I am giving it more thought. thanks alot and it was easy to read and follow

Well written! Good job bender buddy:D:skull::D

Note:
I know some of you have awsome skills and all, but PLEASE read the bottom where it says.....
TAKE SOME TIME and biuld other things before attempting something that is ment to someday save your LIFE!!..

I have this vision in my head of people flocking to go pick up benders cause it's "looks so damn easy"... IT'S NOT!!

There are ALOT of "Other" things that go into building CAGES and I would hate to have anyone of you HURT!!! Yes, even DRM...:flipoff2:


If you so much as Question your ability's ....don't do it...
and PLEASE remember....IT'S YOUR LIFE!!!


:skull:

words to the wise... and thats why I'll pay Bob to build my cage.

Originally posted by Tin Bender
Note:
I know some of you have awsome skills and all, but PLEASE read the bottom where it says.....
TAKE SOME TIME and biuld other things before attempting something that is ment to someday save your LIFE!!..

I have this vision in my head of people flocking to go pick up benders cause it's "looks so damn easy"... IT'S NOT!:skull:

Amen dude, I read that article and definetly thought "man that's it? I am set" of course I was only (bwahhhhhh) planning on sliders and a bumber to start with.:D

thanks for taking the time to write that out and take pics Rob ... not that it's easy to do but at least i understand it more :D

- jack

Thanks a million for taking the time to do this writeup. It is very timely for me, as I am about to tackle the next step. . . . buying a bender. :vader: I'm going to be scary when I'm practicing. Tube workbenches, tube chairs, tube dining room table, tube toilet, lol. I plan on getting in some serious practice and some approval from experienced supervision before I start on the life-dependant stuff. If you're ever feeling generous with your time, future lessons would be hugely appreciated by more people than just me, I'm sure.

I have a question for Tin Bender..........I didn't notice anything in your write up (granted I just sort of scanned it quickly) about various dies that are used with the bender. I realize the size of the die is going to depend on the size of your tubing, but what does the Tube Bending 101 course suggest as far as the dies???

I have looked at a bunch of different tube bender sites and there are a hell of a lot of different dies in various sizes. Then within the different sizes there are different degrees the dies will bend to, and I belive different lengths of dies for the various dies as well.

Not that I am particularly looking for a bender at the moment, but I was just wondering if one die makes the job easier than another, or it you need more than one die for the same size tube. For the looks of the site I have seen the dies get rather expensive quickly...........thanks for any info about that aspect.

You have the choice in most cases of the 90* and the 180*, nothing special right. Each die also has a Center Line Radius, the CLR will determine what the minimum wall thickness is that you can bend with that die, example tight radius= thicker wall. To thin a wall on too tight a radius and it could ripple or deform the tube in the bend.:)

Super cool article. You just saved me a whole bunch of scrap tube. Thanks. Now, I'm gonna need to make some bends on two different plains, when does bending 105 come out?
It looked from the pictures like you were using ERW tube, is there anything I should know before loading DOM into the bender? I know ERW should have the seam inside the bend, any tricks like that for DOM?

Nice article writeup Rob.
Of course, like it was said earlier.. Im a retard.. my best friend isnt.. my dad owns a bender.. maybe its time to have him build me a cage, right rockbuggy?:D
Scott :grinpimp:<><

you know I have used a conduit bender to do little racks and things and fought like hell with getting 2 pieces to be identical, but your method was so simple. I cany wait to graduate to a real bender. Thanks for taking the time to share a couple of your secrets.

BlueYJ:cool2:

Kick ass 'Real World' info.

Thanks!

Thanks alot Rob, and Fatkid! I'm a real rookie on this stuff still.

I hope to be able to do alot more this winter on my jeep(s)
build-up with your info.

ps: You outta try and get an ironworker for your shop....

talk about speed up the work flow..... super nice to have.
and the punch/die/bending capabilities are only limited by
your own mind and ingenuity!

I like your shop.... did you buy the place or are ya renting?

Hope to run into you guys sometime this summer when my
junk is "hopefully" on the trail.

--Sherpa

nice to see it put in lamens(sp?) terms. thanks for the honest assesment on actual cost to start also.
shon

Originally posted by Tin Bender
There are ALOT of "Other" things that go into building CAGES and I would hate to have anyone of you HURT!!! Yes, even DRM...:flipoff2:


If you so much as Question your ability's ....don't do it...
and PLEASE remember....IT'S YOUR LIFE!!!

Awwww.... I may just cry :p you really *do* care :eek:


Well, I did read it and go out and order a bender.... but I have been itching to buy one for a while now.

I will be building the complete tube rear cab/bed section for my Toy. I have faith in my ability... and faith in my ability to buy some tube to screw around with before I get started on the truck itself :p:p:p

I am a firm believer that a good ratio of 4:1 for thinking:doing generally helps things come out better in the end ;)

Cool write-up!

:)

TB I just tried this layout method.. I had been doing the calc, which definatley works but its slow. Thanks for the article! I can totally see how to apply this to most shapes now :D

COOL... I'm glad it works for ya.....:skull:

Originally posted by Tin Bender
COOL... I'm glad it works for ya.....:skull:


you da man! thanks for the awsome tech........ heres a :bender: for ya....

Dude, BigAssedJeepGuy!!!!! Damn, what took you so long ??

Maybe you can build even BIGGERWIDER fender flares now!!!! ...lol :flipoff2:.......

damn dude, where have you been, or am I just not looking?....:D:D:D

Rob…..thanks much. A very well written article that is easy to follow. Not saying it's easy, but your detailed explanation sure is great.

I about pulled my hair out trying to fully follow the JD2 instructions. I finally did my own test bends and did some physical studying to learn how to start bending a few weeks back. I've been using the calculated angle method but your layout method looks handy.

Thanks again for taking the time to put it all together!

Looking forward to future classes ;-)

Jay

Originally posted by Tin Bender
Dude, BigAssedJeepGuy!!!!! Damn, what took you so long ??

Maybe you can build even BIGGERWIDER fender flares now!!!! ...lol :flipoff2:.......

damn dude, where have you been, or am I just not looking?....:D:D:D


its the busy season, familys gettin drunk and domesticating... = me in court alot...


as far as fender flares.... i got a few thought running through my mind...... just aint doin shit till i get my garage! lets just say there will be no fenders, or original body.... tube, and plastic all the way yeeaaahhhh

Damn, you cut it enuff, and roll it sereal hundred times, you'll be TIN:skull:BENDER material fo shoooo....:D:D:D

Originally posted by Tin Bender
Damn, you cut it enuff, and roll it sereal hundred times, you'll be TIN:skull:BENDER material fo shoooo....:D:D:D



daaaam :D ill take that as a compliment.... thanks :D

Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
Thanks alot Rob, and Fatkid! I'm a real rookie on this stuff still.

I hope to be able to do alot more this winter on my jeep(s)
build-up with your info.

ps: You outta try and get an ironworker for your shop....

talk about speed up the work flow..... super nice to have.
and the punch/die/bending capabilities are only limited by
your own mind and ingenuity!

I like your shop.... did you buy the place or are ya renting?

Hope to run into you guys sometime this summer when my
junk is "hopefully" on the trail.

--Sherpa

Thanks, and ya the Iron Worker is on the list. We had the chance to look at a few, gave me a huge boner! Sorry to much info. :D

thanxs....nice write up, just saved me some coin in tube.