I am looking at becoming a distributor for rockcrusher and was wondering what your response was toward their product. They are a fairly new company and it looks like they have a very stout product. Rockcrusher Diffs (http://www.rockcrusherdiffs.com/frontpage.html) I just wanted to see what the market was for these guys product before I put in an order to become a distributor.

Thanks for any input.
~Kirk

They were at SEMA so I would say alot of people saw them and saw how stout they were. With how many people are getting into 4-wheelin now and investing in 60's I would say it was a good idea.....Look at the Jeep commercial pulling up on a rock.....

Keep in mind that they are soliciting every mom and pop 4X4 shop in the US to be a distributor, and a few have done so - and more are still coming. So be careful.:D

Check with Troy myers at the Badlands Offroad Park, He is a distr. for Rockcrusher diffs.. You might ask his opinion on the product since he will test everything he uses. His number is 765-762-2981.

You can also check with Larry from Mad4WD. (TJFan on the PBB).

They're a distributor also!

www.mad4wd.com


Out

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, they have yet to provide the axles that I won on the MONEY PIT climb at the SUPERCRAWL this year. They will not give me a answer as to what their intentions are one way or another. I have made repeated calls to the ownwers and keep getting the run-around. Aparently the gift certificate I received is worthless.
I don't believe in trash talking a company on this board, however I don't know what to do at this point.
BEWARE OF ANY DEALINGS WITH THESE PEOPLE

Steve is a very stand up guy. I don't think his reputation could ever be tarnished.

I meant to put in a plug for Steve earlier and forgot. You are absolutely correct in saying he is a super guy. It's a shame he got screwed by these shady people.

LEASON LEARNED FOR ALL OF US

Originally posted by Shupee
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, they have yet to provide the axles that I won on the MONEY PIT climb at the SUPERCRAWL this year. They will not give me a answer as to what their intentions are one way or another. I have made repeated calls to the ownwers and keep getting the run-around. Aparently the gift certificate I received is worthless.
I don't believe in trash talking a company on this board, however I don't know what to do at this point.
BEWARE OF ANY DEALINGS WITH THESE PEOPLE

FACT:-SHUPEE CONTACTED ONE OF THE OWNERS OF ROCKCRUSHER DIFFS ONLY ONCE REGARDING HIS SUPERCRAWL MONEY PIT WIN, HE WAS TOLD THE AXLES WERE BEING SHIPPED FROM AUSTRALIA WHICH TAKES EIGHT WEEKS AND HE WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO WAIT. NOW THEY HAVE LANDED IN THE U.S HE WILL BE CONTACTED SHORTLY TO ARRANGE DELIVERER, SO PULL YOUR HEAD IN.

Originally posted by Shupee
I meant to put in a plug for Steve earlier and forgot. You are absolutely correct in saying he is a super guy. It's a shame he got screwed by these shady people.

LEASON LEARNED FOR ALL OF US

IT'S A SHAME YOU DON'T KNOW THE REAL FACTS OF THE SITUATION BEFORE BAD MOUTHING PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW SHUPEE.
STEVE LEFT ROCKCRUSHER DIFFS OF HIS OWN ACCORD, ROCKCRUSHER WOULD OF LOVED IT IF HE WOULD OF STAYED BUT THAT IS HIS DECISION. AS FOR STEVE BEING SCREWED BY THESE SHADY PEOPLE AS YOU PUT IT SHUPEE THE RELATATIONSHIP BETWEEN ROCKCRUSKER AND STEVE HUDLOW IS GREAT IN FACT ROCKCRUSHER HAS, IS AND STILL WILL BE STEVE MAJOR SPONSOR FOR 2004-05.

Grant,
The last time we spoke was before the SEMA show and you told me "I'll call you next week and let you know what we're going to do". Next week never came so I assumed you weren't going to call me back after 3 weeks. All it takes is a phone call to let me know what's up with the situtation.
And no I don't know what the deal is with Steve, I do know that you could not pick a better person to represent your product for 2004-05.

Originally posted by The Mac
Keep in mind that they are soliciting every mom and pop 4X4 shop in the US to be a distributor, and a few have done so - and more are still coming. So be careful.:D

FACT:- IN TOTAL WE HAVE HAD A 105 COMPANIES APPROACH US WANTING TO BE DISTRIBUTORS SO FAR WE HAVE CHOSEN 7 COMPANIES AND A THIS STAGE WE MAY APOINT 5 TO 6 MORE DEALERS IN THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS. SO ONCE AGAIN GET OUR F*** ING FACTS STRAIGHT AND IF YOU ARE THE PERSON I THINK YOU ARE CONSIDER YOUR DEALERSHIP TERMINATED.

Let's not get of topic ladies;) . Rockcrusher make's a top notch product, and they are producing what they say they are! It seems they were a bit behind but I believe most of it has shipped and if it's not in the states yet it will be soon. I believe Rockcrusher will live up to there obligations and if you call one of the many companies that have done a buy in's with them you should find that getting the product isn't the prob. finding people to buy them is the problem and that should get better as people get to know them.

Calling Shupee a liar will only hurt YOU in the US. off road world! So you might want to rethink that angle :confused:
AINT THAT RIGHT BABY:D

I don't know anything about Shupee and shirlz, or their dealings. But yelling, and talking shit on people isn't exactly a quality of a good businessman. Either way... looks like a good product.

Originally posted by shirlz
FACT:- IN TOTAL WE HAVE HAD A 105 COMPANIES APPROACH US WANTING TO BE DISTRIBUTORS SO FAR WE HAVE CHOSEN 7 COMPANIES AND A THIS STAGE WE MAY APOINT 5 TO 6 MORE DEALERS IN THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS. SO ONCE AGAIN GET OUR F*** ING FACTS STRAIGHT AND IF YOU ARE THE PERSON I THINK YOU ARE CONSIDER YOUR DEALERSHIP TERMINATED.

No offense shirlz, but regardless of how this thread started or how this thread ends, the tone of your response to the comments above will be taken as a reflection of your product.

I'm in customer service myself, and some honest explanations in this situation will get you significantly further with this usergroup than the aggressive and combative tone you have opted to take.

Best of luck with your ventures.

I have given Rockcrusher nothing but support and have never had bad thing to say about them or their product. As far as my FU##ing facts, I speak with over 100 people per day and the people that I have spoken with (whether or not they have contacted you or you them) have been told that Rockcrusher would like a distributor in each state. Are they lying too????

Originally posted by The Mac
I have given Rockcrusher nothing but support and have never had bad thing to say about them or their product. As far as my FU##ing facts, I speak with over 100 people per day and the people that I have spoken with (whether or not they have contacted you or you them) have been told that Rockcrusher would like a distributor in each state. Are they lying too????


ALL WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS MANUFACTURE THE BEST PRODUCTS WE CAN AT A PRICE THAT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD, EVER SINCE WE HAVE LAUNCHED ROCKCRUSHER IN THE U.S. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BAGGING OUR PRODUCT BEFORE THEY HAVE EVEN SEEN IT, TOUCHED IT, OR USED IT. WE HAVE LET THE PAST COMIANTS GO, BUT NOW WE THINK IT'S TIME TO BIT BACK AND WHEN WE DO WE GET CRUSAFIED FOR IT.

What product in the states, some diff housings? I ponied up the jack for complete axles, so where are they. The delays keep coming, but the product hasn't shown at the buy ins!

And I ponied with a respected vendor that CAN assemble/build them. You may not know me "shirlz" but I was the first customer to commit to the "first" pair built in the US. If there is any doubt, ask Steve, or Read this from 8/04/03 (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=165383) .

As far as your reply to Shuppee, I hope it just didn't translate well, cause calling him a redneck (which he is, by his own admission) won't sell shit here. BTW, this is the "LOUDEST" voice in American competiton/recreation off roading, right here, POR.

I'm gonna have hi pinion, 60's, on my rig before December 15th, enter the area's largest auto show, proudly displaying the decals of the vendors/manufacturers, clue the interested visitors in, on what our "sport" is about.

At this rate I lack confidence the axles will be RockCrushers. Any questions?

You made it NASTY by responding the way you have. And I haven't heard anyone bash the product, just the company. As far as who I am, I don't hide that, and I AM who you think I am (props to Emminem). If any one cares, I DO WORK at Randy's. We have bought, and will continue to buy Rockcrusher products (If we can...confused: ) I was merely stating FACT. I would hate to see a small company buy a product that they can't sell competitively, thus resluting in the world's largest paper weights. :D Don't attack me for stating the truth, I wasn't slammin you!

WOW!!!! Well I saw their product at SEMA and it looks tough as hell. I met the Rockcrusher family and seem to be real nice people. My guess is moving product from another country is harder than it looks. Also talking about selling to everyone. Dosen't everyone do that? I can't count how many people sell dynatracs. I think everyone should worry about what you sell them for Mac. You guys smoke everyone's prices on everthing I've seen.

Ok I've got a way to solve all the problems here. Rockcrusher send me a set of 60s for my 03 tj that I will compete in next season and I will be living proof of how durable of product that they are. Also seeing that I am blessed with the ability to express my opinion with ease (ie; I talk a good line) I will happily represent your company for a small fee. Let's say no more than the entry fees for my rig will cost next season. As a bonus I will have my picture taken regularly with several hot babes wearing t-shirts, preferably wet, with your company logo proudly displayed. Please let me know asap since several other companies have approached me also.

shirlz if you are who i think you are , call me before you make us all look bad. and dont get in a pissin match on this forum, you are only doing us {dealers} harm.

Well.....................

My vendor was promised (repeatedly for months) again that the "outer kits" would be "personally" delivered to him today, Saturday the 5th. Yeah this promise came after the post previous to this one.

Guess what, "NO SHOW", no parts kits, lots of center sections in the country though. Big deal!

My personal problem with this mess is I committed to a product, thru a vendor that made a huge financial investment, based on "our" faith in the company and the many opportunity's (most have passed, like the Largest 4x4 Jamboree and SuperCrawl II) where we intended to promote this great new product to the mass's.

I guess I have options, I can get a refund from my vendor, and call Dynatrac, or build axles from truck HP 60's. Missing from this list is WAITING FOR ANOTHER BOGUS DATE FROM ROCKCRUSHER

Sorry Brian, it's probably not your fault that we have all lost confidence in this transaction. Anybody wanna confirm the rumor that Randy's Ring and Pinion dropped this product?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM 1234 views, any prospective customers watching this?

Wow, I just remembered that you were supposed to have those in by Supercrawl. That seems like a "long" time ago.

I saw you at the Badlands today, but only for a second. Did the Birf's hold up? My Warn junk didn't...........again.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by mudtruck44
Wow, I just remembered that you were supposed to have those in by Supercrawl. That seems like a "long" time ago.

I saw you at the Badlands today, but only for a second. Did the Birf's hold up? My Warn junk didn't...........again.:rolleyes:

Bobby Longs newest birfs held up great, first time in a long while I wheeled with out any birfs clicking! They might just be the chit :D It was wet so most the rock faces didn't offer enough traction to break anything. Had fun though, and a great turnout of people wheeling today!

Originally posted by SpaceGhost
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM 1234 views, any prospective customers watching this?

not any more...tho the results will be interesting...

majorly sucks, I know you sold a bunch of parts off your rig to raise funds for these, then had to go back and REBUY parts to compete at Supercrawl. (BTW: thanks for returning my axles to me! If I can't make Supercrawl, at least my parts can! lol)

Now, point me to a thread full of pics from TFT!!

Sorry Woody, no pics that I have seen from TFT.

Another 200 views today, hmmmm reckon everybody is anticipating some kinda positive responce on the axles? Hahahahahaha, nope cept private messages from people that are dumbfounded that I kept my trap shut this long.

I really feel for the vendors that bought in, well in advance, like early August with a nice chunk of change. At least 2 I know personally parted with enough $$$ to be driving a brand spanking new, tweaked, top of the line Powerstroke or Cummins powered rig. They were both excited to at the time, whats the quarterly interest on ... say $50k? Or my measly $5k down stroke?

Wondering now if I'll get the boot for excersizing my (American) First Amendment right? No this isn't a post about a check being held for clearing, it's been 4 months full of lame promises, for what I believe is a "killer" product.

Customer Service 101, a simple phone call with NO BS goes a long way!

Hey SG I jope this is not where your money is :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I hope you work it out.

http://www.rockcrusherdiffs.com/images/rc%20truck%20&%20trailer.jpg

I don't know much about it either but yes 90% of the real hardcore wheelers are on this board and the other 10% know about it. Competitors, buyers, hundreds if not thousands of shop owners, etc you name it... Just FYI...

Sounds like their well on their way to building a bad rep. Too bad, neat products...I've dealt with Mike, and he's stand-up...

and..... no responce from them for a couple of weeks...

TOP!!!

Rockcrusher.........come out to play.........


Come awn man, where are you're crappy response now that you've been called on it? :D:D:D Inquiring minds want to know. :D

I just received a message from


Brian @ Rockcrusher , I had sent him an e-mail about 2 weeks ago and he just got back to me.

Not sure if anyone has dealt with this guy or not

Brian seems to be a pretty stand-up guy. I have talked to him 20 + times and he has always done his best to answer my questions and get back to me when he didn't have the answer.

~Kirk Oden

brian is a great guy, and i think he is stepping in in the middle of all of this. if there is anyone you can count on for the truth its brian!! fwiw grant seemed too be a good fella .i think its a new company trying too work out the bugs of importing! see ya charlie

Hey Charlie,

Both Steve and Brian (current US rep) are great guys, they are not the problem. Not that I know what the problem is :flipoff2: Maybe this isn't fair since neither of them post here and I am not their "direct" customer. In reality I am just a spot on the wall to their long term goals. Whats one sale of a pair of axles?

However, the companies that "bought into" the product for the U.S. are reputable suppliers to this market. They are the ones that have "it on the line" here. Burn them and who is gonna stock, build, install, and support these axles? Hell I like having choices, btw this is "America" we just expect people to "mean what they say"!

I bet more than a few vendors/mfg's of alternate products are getting a chuckle out of this:D

Originally posted by shirlz
SO ONCE AGAIN GET OUR F*** ING FACTS STRAIGHT AND IF YOU ARE THE PERSON I THINK YOU ARE CONSIDER YOUR DEALERSHIP TERMINATED.

How to self terminate your business 101...

Wow, open this up thinking it keeps poping up... must be some good tech right? nope, nothing but a justified vendor bashing AND the vendor lashes back to prove they deserve it.

Aaron Beckstead, just another little guy who thought "hey that's a badass product... but fawk those guys, I'll never give them a cent now."

mike i agree it sux when anyone gets screwed especially from a vendor,and also the variety of choices too us is so important for "competivness" and it also helps with pricing and other alternatives for us to try. still all in all steve and brian are dreat guys and will be looking out for all of us as well as trying too make a living. see ya charlie

Originally posted by Danger Ranger

Aaron Beckstead, just another little guy who thought "hey that's a badass product... but fawk those guys, I'll never give them a cent now."

Ditto ... I was giving them serious consideration but seeing how this "shirlz" guy has responded I wouldn't even think about it now ... regardless of how great their product seems.

It's not like anyone on this board would want, and/or run a beefy product like that anyway. Everyone here still runs 12 bolt rears and D30 fronts. :flipoff2:

Shirlz, way to introduce yourself to your customer base.:eek:

Here we go again, maybe he'll compliment me again(call me a redneck)

Thought I would get a few words in to ward off any misconceptions about some of the guys in his ongoing thread.

1-Steve Hudlow, absolutely one of the nicest and coolest guys out there. He went into this with good intentions and??? say no more.
2-Bryan Hamilton, I've known Bryan for 10 years and he to is a great guy and his dad could teach John Travolta a few dance moves(just add alcohol). He also has one of the sexiest girlfriends that wears skimpy tops at the events. Hopefully she'll be the Rockcrusher girl this summer!!!!
3-Mike(spaceghost) is a very nice guy that is pretty straght-up

I'm very prejudiced but still everyone knows it's pretty though to beat a company with a good 23+ year reputation in the states. They're's very little difference in bottom line pricing between the two. Give Dynatrac a call and get a price from them before you buy

From everything I have seen Rockcrusher seems to be a stand up product, it sucks that they seem to be so far behind in their orders. I hope everything works out for all the vendors who bought in. Unfortunitly if I was to ever consider buying something from Rockcrusher Shirlz has def killed it. That is no way to talk to one of the larger customer bases on the net. The fact that u had to resort to calling someone a redneck cause they were calling u out on your lack of customer service not only shows your intelligance but it also shows me how u treat your customers and your complete lack of compitence.Thanks for tarnishing what seems to be a good products name.

Wooooooooo Hoooooooooooo

Ok time for some good news in this thread, well, at least for me.

Earlier this afternoon I got a call from my vendor/supplier of the Rockcrushers. He had just gotten off a confrence call with the guys over in Australia. They committed to "Air Freight" the remaining parts to the US, and for them to be in Indiana at his place of business by next Friday, Dec 19th.

He shared with me that a "huge" shipment is also enroute and should be here just after Christmas, where they go, and when wasn't part of the conversation.

I'm a pretty reasonable guy, so I am gonna go about my business and back off this thread, and give them a chance to come through. I'll post up when they arrive or next Friday which ever comes first!

If you're watching shirlz, Thanks!

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OH

Seems I have made terrible mistake, and in the process, went on an unnecessary rampage. I won't make excuse, I F&#%&D UP. The parts HAVE been in Indianapolis since Monday, exactly as Brian Hamilton said they would. They sit in customs waiting whatever the process is to be released. I had not talked to Troy (although he left me a voice mail, I overlooked) and made the assumption they were not here.

Shirlz, Bryan, and Troy, I am VERY SORRY for the following post (which I left, for reference) which was uncalled for, and factually not true ]:emb4:

I'll go sit in my corner and behave now.

Mike "SpaceGhost" Smythe

The saga continues. It's the 23rd of December and nobody here has seen the Rockcrusher products that were supposed to be shipped "air freight" early this month (see previous threads).

I did recieve an email from Shirlz (or his people) last week saying the parts would be shipped today ( that day, again by air "freight") and I decided to refrain from posting here, for the time being. What a guppie I am :D

Last Friday (12/19/13 in the US) I was at the Badlands when Bryan told Troy they were in Indy, and he'd make arrangements for them to be picked up on Monday , (yesterday, instead of shipping another 70 miles to Badlands). I wouldn't be posting this if they were here!

Merry Christmas Shirlz (being a day ahead has some value), but I am not a happy camper. You lied to me directly in writing, you know it, and well........ now we all do too.

I suppose now that the rumor is also true, that the knuckles you are sending are first gen stuff, not the keyed stuff you committed to. Guess what, I am NOT running your prototype crap, I'll stick with my Toy axles and put a new turbo on my powerstroke first!

As soon as the holidays pass, I will be calling Crane for a product that DOES exist, and btw, IS what they advertise!

Brian, I don't think you are part of this mess, you are just a victim of circumstance, kinda like me.

Troy, sorry I didn't get to warn ya, and that is my only regret.

And anybody that thinks i'm a whiny bitch, or this is some vendor bashing, should answer this first: How much of your $$$ is on the table for THIS product, or how well is it holding up for you, hahahahahaha.

That sucks.............again. What is your plan now?

What the hell are yall talking about??????????
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...:flipoff2:

If all I get outta this thread is looking at that picture it was totally worth it:eek:

What do you need!

Originally posted by UGET IT
If all I get outta this thread is looking at that picture it was totally worth it:eek:

What do you need!

maybe a look through the axle tube holes:p

Love the pic!!

Sounds like they have some really decent products, I am always weary of buying anyhting from the aussies as manufacturers have ran to australia to avoid us patents...........wont mention any names but those diffs look on the strait and narrow. I will go the way of the mog but for a 60 its pretty good.

Keep up the good work guys even if you bought dodge:flipoff2:

Any pictures of the knuckles?

Any chance of an explanation of the vendors need to lash out at PBB mambers. A tactful statement of the facts as Rockcrusher sees them could go a long way to gaining my buisiness. If this is left, as is, many of us will consider other sources in the near future.

I have been excited about this product since I first heard of its exsistence in the Vendor Section. But the Rockcrusher representative with the loud voice seems out of line. Even if the "rednecks" do not have their facts straight. It makes me wonder how will my customer satisfaction be maintained if I buy the product. I believe an apology is in order.

JP

I suppose now that the rumor is also true, that the knuckles you are sending are first gen stuff, not the keyed stuff you committed to. Guess what, I am NOT running your prototype crap, I'll stick with my Toy axles and put a new turbo on my powerstroke first!

Mike,

The key ordeal was shortly put to an end. The engineer and myself sat down at SEMA and decided that the key would not be beneficial for the Rockcrusher knuckles and C's. There simply wasn't enough material for the key in the balljoint design w/ hysteer. (although part of the rockcrusher people still wanted it)What is out now isn't "prototype crap" as there are several hundred knuckles manufactured and shipped world wide. As far as I know, the c's will later be changed over to a forging. Currently the c's are machined from one beautiful chunk of steel.

Sorry for the additional post...

Everything is in the clear now right Mike?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=208116

Originally posted by big97redtj

Everything is in the clear now right Mike?





Except maybe for some customer service from Rockcrusher, and an apology:rolleyes:

Originally posted by big97redtj
Sorry for the additional post...

Everything is in the clear now right Mike?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=208116

Yes it is Matt, life is grand! I'll post up finished install pics when i get the tube work done! Thanks for asking.

Any update on the apology or anything?

Originally posted by SpaceGhost


Yes it is Matt, life is grand! I'll post up finished install pics when i get the tube work done! Thanks for asking.

hey mike

checked out your pics, your rig is lookin good, send me some photos and we post them on our web page.


shirlz

Originally posted by shirlz


hey mike

checked out your pics, your rig is lookin good, send me some photos and we post them on our web page.


shirlz

How bout, "I am sorry for acting like an ass.":rolleyes:

Originally posted by 1uglyranger


How bout, "I am sorry for acting like an ass.":rolleyes:

I'll probably take a beating for this, likely from those that have NO vested interest in these products, or intentions to make any purchase this substantial.

But:

Not everybody has as much time as we do to read and post here, not everybody is as experienced in the "way of the web". I suspect Shirlz has recognized the awesome power of this specific site, and the net in general. Back off his ass and let him deal with the people as he sees fit, daily suggestions he apologize probably wouldn't motivate you either!

If any one thinks I should be waiting for an apology, thanks for your unsolicited concern, but at 45, I have gotten this far without it! Don't overlook the fact that I am the only one posting pics of the 'Real Deal" as they were built, and being installed, and certainly when finished.

Thanks Shirlz, I'll be sure and get ya presentable pics as soon as I can.

Hey Mike, I'm glad you got your parts in finally and I have seen the pics of them. They look really good. but I have to say not every one has there parts in yet. I know for a fact that Shupee's Rockcrushers from the money pit are still in cardboard boxes waiting for all the parts to finally show up. :confused:

Originally posted by SpaceGhost


I'll probably take a beating for this, likely from those that have NO vested interest in these products, or intentions to make any purchase this substantial.

But:

Not everybody has as much time as we do to read and post here, not everybody is as experienced in the "way of the web". I suspect Shirlz has recognized the awesome power of this specific site, and the net in general. Back off his ass and let him deal with the people as he sees fit, daily suggestions he apologize probably wouldn't motivate you either!

If any one thinks I should be waiting for an apology, thanks for your unsolicited concern, but at 45, I have gotten this far without it! Don't overlook the fact that I am the only one posting pics of the 'Real Deal" as they were built, and being installed, and certainly when finished.

Thanks Shirlz, I'll be sure and get ya presentable pics as soon as I can.
Too much competition in this big ol world. A bit of damage control on their part would go a loooong way to most on this board. Mainly the folks who are not getting freebies or special disco's. The fact that there is not an apology does not motivate myself to purchase there products either. If Shirlz is expecting us to forget about this stuff like politicians do, then that would be a mistake.

I thought he did apologize.....?????

Originally posted by pure-adrenaline
I thought he did apologize.....?????

cool, where is the post?