: Need suspension expert--portals


evilfij
12-17-2001, 09:02 PM
What is the effect of portal hubs on a suspension?

I am considering putting xtremeaxle.com portals under my range rover (I am not a rich snob it is a beat up POS, but I like it)

The range rover uses two radius arms (each mount on two locations on the axle) and a panhard rod in front and an A - frame assembly with a ball joint and two trailling links in the back(each attach to the axle in one spot). It has coil springs all around.

I am concerned that the way the axles flex will cause problems if I run portals. My tenative plan is to just weld the RR stuff onto the C-303 portals and be done with it but I want to know if this will cause problems for me.

Help. I am no expert on this. I understand suspension design to a certain extent but this is way over my head.

I plan to actually drive it on the street/highway and it does not have to be an extreme long travel or anything like that. 8 or 10in shocks are fine for my uses.

Help! If anyone will know the answer it will be someone on this board.

Thanks

Ron

Gordon
12-18-2001, 04:17 PM
yeah just weld it up and try it. you will gain quite a bit of anti dive in the front and anti squat in the rear, but depending on your uses it will probably not be a huge deal. It is likely that it will have over 100% anti dive so in a panic brake situation the front end would lift up. Some EB's with really big tires have this problem, and seam to deal with it fine. The oter thing is the bushings that mount the radius arm things to the axle will have a lot more force on them to resist the axle wrap, if someone makes poly bushings or something stiffer those might be something to consider.

evilfij
12-18-2001, 08:11 PM
Thanks.

Sounds reasonable. My uses are general east coast offroading but I would like it to be able to handle challenge type events (high speed type jungle offroading) if I ever get motivated to do so.

My theory is to keep the amount of flex limited in back especially to prevent the rear axle driving under and bending the trailing links.

Ron

roverhybrids
12-19-2001, 12:01 AM
Ron,
I would for sure use aftermarket trailing links(like rovertym) if you are not already. The heim jointed style is not necessary for the amount of travel you want but the offset/bend will relieve most all of the bushing binding and the added strength I think is a must.

evilfij
12-19-2001, 12:12 AM
Thats the plan. I don't like the hiems as they wear out. I have the early stock ones now which are about 2x as strong as the later disco and D90 ones and have not had a problem. Rovertym is the plan as soon as I make up my mind as to how much offset/length I need. I am considering running the axle back an inch or two to clearance tires which would make the stock RTE rear links unsuitable.

Ron