Originally posted by RE:Todd
Thanks Shawn, didn't know how to get them here.

:confused: um same was as the other ones you did??? :D or were you being sarcastic??

Originally posted by surveyboy


:confused: um same was as the other ones you did??? :D or were you being sarcastic?? I thought it was that way, but wasn't sure. Your's aren't on the Pirate server.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
I thought it was that way, but wasn't sure. Your's aren't on the Pirate server.

yeah, they are on my stuff, if figged as loopy as the PBB has been lately I'd do my part to help.


did ya guys have fun sunday morning?

Here's a coupla more:D

and

looks like that flat pan is coming in handy.
i am sooo jealous right now:D

come awn, its been a day, wheres the video! :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


Rich has video of it ;)

Actually I have the video:flipoff2: (It was my cam) I had to buy some crap today to be able to upload to my computer. Todd and I will work on it this friday. It was pitch dark out side and the video was not that great but... It also has some pics (low quality) on it. I will try to get to them later.

How much does it weigh??????

Originally posted by 4RnrRick
How much does it weigh??????

ya, have you weighed it yet?

Not yet, it's at my newest sponsors shop getting springs done :D :D

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Not yet, it's at my newest sponsors shop getting springs done :D :D

you suck:flipoff2:

Nice job :D .... What is the actual wheelbase on your rig? Anything you gonna change or would of done differently?

Originally posted by PAULR
Nice job :D .... What is the actual wheelbase on your rig? Anything you gonna change or would of done differently? To begin with
Seat height, put them as low as you can, give 4" between the bars and your head
Good seats, PRP, Beard, etc
Firewall, build it, pull the engine and finish it
Springs, got to figure them out, Deaver is prototyping a set for Formula Toy on my rig
Gages, put them in before you run it, I think I hurt my motor last weekend
Drivers controls, ARB switch, etc. Put them where you can reach them with 4 points on and tight.
I'll post up the wheelbase when I get it back, but I'm right around 107" . As I drive it more, I'm sure I'll figure out some more stuff. It'll be at Boulevard Brawl on the 20th and 21st, come on down :D :D

Originally posted by RE:Todd
To begin with
Seat height, put them as low as you can, give 4" between the bars and your head
Good seats, PRP, Beard, etc
Firewall, build it, pull the engine and finish it
Springs, got to figure them out, Deaver is prototyping a set for Formula Toy on my rig
Gages, put them in before you run it, I think I hurt my motor last weekend
Drivers controls, ARB switch, etc. Put them where you can reach them with 4 points on and tight.
I'll post up the wheelbase when I get it back, but I'm right around 107" . As I drive it more, I'm sure I'll figure out some more stuff. It'll be at Boulevard Brawl on the 20th and 21st, come on down :D :D

Is this advice or things you want to change? How was your approach and departure angle? Are you going to inboard you rear springs? What wheelbase are you shooting for? Did your floor pan sit flush with the top of the frame rail? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm at the point of no return on a few important build decisions. :confused: I hope I can make it to the Boulevard Brawl.

Originally posted by PAULR


Is this advice or things you want to change? Yes How was your approach and departure angle? Great, didn't hit the front or rear, except on an 8 foot verticle nose off. Are you going to inboard you rear springs? No, already frenched in What wheelbase are you shooting for? About 107" Did your floor pan sit flush with the top of the frame rail? Nope, even with the bottom cage rail, that'll be the first thing we go after when I get it back. I think top of the frame rail is what we'll shoot for, should leave enough room for the exhaust pipe to go between the BudBuilt and the seat bottoms.

Todd, you Did overheat it that night Do you think you blew the head gasket?

#006 are you the only one ready for the frist comp #13

this thing is sexy

Originally posted by Lemoore-on
Todd, you Did overheat it that night Do you think you blew the head gasket? I don't think I blew the headgasket, but I'll check it out when I get it back today. I guess I can always hone the cylinders of the spare and throw it in :D :D

Originally posted by mountain toys
#006 are you the only one ready for the frist comp #13 Actually, I'm first in class :D :D :D



I'm not quite ready by the rules (metal top, window net) but I do believe I'm closest. We are hoping to make the actual comp debut at Yerington in May, depends on if there are others ready.

I'm a little behind you, but I am also going to try to be ready for the May competition. I appreciate your list of what to improve. Tell me more about the need for a firewall........

Todd C

ya i am doing my best to be comp ready by may as well. so any heads up on stuff like seat placement, what works and what doesnt, will help out. thanks todd!:)

hay todd did you find a place to get window nets yet we mite get a better price if we order them all in one stot thay should be all the same

i am gonna order mine from here



http://www.mrproducts.com/window_nets.html

Originally posted by Todd C
I'm a little behind you, but I am also going to try to be ready for the May competition. I appreciate your list of what to improve. Tell me more about the need for a firewall........

Todd C Don't really need one, except for creature comfort and to keep the passengers feet out of the tires :D :D

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Don't really need one, except for creature comfort and to keep the passengers feet out of the tires :D :D

:laughing:
sounds like a loaded statement. is there a story behind that one?

Originally posted by a2b


:laughing:
sounds like a loaded statement. is there a story behind that one? Actually, no. Just would be too easy for a passenger to brace themselves, slip, and flop, flop, flop, tread marks :D :D

todd


can you post some pics of the drivers floor board area and seat mount ?

yes, i would like to see how the floor works in relation to the flat belly pan and where the seats are too. thanks todd:)

Originally posted by camo
todd


can you post some pics of the drivers floor board area and seat mount ? What I have right now isn't working right. After Boulevard and my move, JC and I are going to redo the florr and seat mounts.

Got the buggy back from Deaver, it's looking good. Need to flex it out on the main leaves to determine bumpstop and shock length. Pictures to follow, once I get a home computer up and working.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
What I have right now isn't working right. .

what exactly did you do thats not working?

Originally posted by a2b


what exactly did you do thats not working?


His seats are too high. His head almost hits the top cage tubes.

hacked in a floor and seat mount is my guess

Originally posted by RE:Todd
What I have right now isn't working right. After Boulevard and my move, JC and I are going to redo the florr and seat mounts.


You don't like my floors??? :flipoff2: I'm not cutting any more diamond plate for it!!!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo
hacked in a floor and seat mount is my guess I wouldn't say hacked it in :flipoff2: , just didn't think about it the right way (some of us don't have a fab shop at our beck and call :flipoff2: ) . The floor plates and seat mounts are level with the top of the bottom chassis tube. I need to get it down to the top of the frame rail. It'll require a little re-engineer/design of the seat mounts, floor heighth and driver's position to work.

Couple of pics from Boulevard, still a lot of work to do :D :D

:D

Sheet metal looks good. That thing is cool. Wish I had the time to do formula toy:( Gotta finish this college thing.

that thing looks bad ass. nice job.

dam that thing looks cool. Can you e-mail me those picks so I can put them on the web site.

Did you get to streach out the Deavers any? How do they work?

Originally posted by Air Ride
dam that thing looks cool. Can you e-mail me those picks so I can put them on the web site. OK, I'll do it tonight.

Originally posted by Lemoore-on
Did you get to streach out the Deavers any? How do they work? They suck :D . Too much flex, got the front tire within 2 inches of the top tube, then half crushed the radiator outlet. Got to remount the radiator another inch or two forward, so I'm not using it as a bumpstop :D :D

hay are we running hoods or not it don't say nothing in the rules

Originally posted by mountain toys
hay are we running hoods or not it don't say nothing in the rules

if it aint in there, then dont worry about it for right now.

So how much does it wiegh????

Originally posted by 4RnrRick
So how much does it wiegh???? Going to try and do the corner weights this weekend to figure out the shock settings. Been real busy with moving houses and cleaning up the old one :( .



As far as hoods, I'll be running one eventually, looks cleaner, and can get more stickers on it :D :D

Lookin good todd! :D Probably the best one I have seen yet! Well....I guess its the only one I have seen, but it looks good needless to say. When is the short bus paint comin? What about the sign? :bounce:

Originally posted by whitebrowithafro
Lookin good todd! :D Probably the best one I have seen yet! Well....I guess its the only one I have seen, but it looks good needless to say. When is the short bus paint comin? What about the sign? :bounce: Paint will happen after the welding and panels are done. As far as the sign, still looking for the right price :D :D

Got the weights yesterday. Thanks JC and Rod

Short Bus II

Vehicle weight 2206
Total front 1132
Total Rear 1074

Corner weights
Driver Front 578
Driver Rear 528
Pass front 554
Pass rear 546

Bias
Driverside 50.13%
Pass side 49.86%
Front 51.31%
Rear 48.68%

For comparison, weighed JC's Fugly Bugly :D :D

JC's rig


Vehicle weight 2290
Total front 1152
Total Rear 1138

Corner weights
Driver Front 586
Driver Rear 568
Pass front 566
Pass rear 570

Bias
Driverside 50.39%
Pass side 49.61%
Front 50.31%
Rear 49.69%


Amazingly close, he had his tool box and spare parts box.

wow, thats light as hell. my old rig used half of the frame and was all tube and all toyota and weighed in at 2800. my new one is full tube and very small. i dont see how i am going to be under 2600. lookin sweet by the way.....brad

Wow, I'm suprised at how well ballanced the Fugly Bugly is. Considering the motor is in the stock location and yours is moved back 8".

JC if you'd knock some of the rust off those panels you'd probly lose a few more lbs. :flipoff2:

Todd what kind of scale did you use? I think your about 500 lbs off. No way its under 2600 lbs and JC rig has to be more than 3000 lbs.

Originally posted by Air Ride
Todd what kind of scale did you use? I think your about 500 lbs off. No way its under 2600 lbs and JC rig has to be more than 3000 lbs.

Yip, I agree with AR, no way it's less than my Samy:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Lemoore-on
Wow, I'm suprised at how well ballanced the Fugly Bugly is. Considering the motor is in the stock location and yours is moved back 8".

JC if you'd knock some of the rust off those panels you'd probly lose a few more lbs. :flipoff2:


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by Air Ride
Todd what kind of scale did you use? I think your about 500 lbs off. No way its under 2600 lbs and JC rig has to be more than 3000 lbs. They're a mechanical 4 set scale. They use lever arm platforms with a kind of bathroom scale. Looks like a setup for circle track. I know that there is some built in error, don't think it's that much. I'll go by a truck scale tomorrow and check the difference.


As far as front to rear bias between Short Bus II and the Fugly Bugly, JC has about 80 pounds of crap strapped to his rear deck :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

So, Where TF were you guys about noon Saturday. I stopped by to see how the
floor mods were coming along and the only ones home were the dogs. :D

Originally posted by Air Ride
Todd what kind of scale did you use? I think your about 500 lbs off. No way its under 2600 lbs and JC rig has to be more than 3000 lbs.

I agree. I want to see a truck scale measurement before I forfeit my dollar to whom ever won the bet :flipoff2: .

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ
So, Where TF were you guys about noon Saturday. I stopped by to see how the
floor mods were coming along and the only ones home were the dogs. :D If we'd only known you were coming by. That little scooter place on the right, about a block before the 78. That's where we saw you from, but I didn't have your cell number :( .

Originally posted by RE:Todd
If we'd only known you were coming by. That little scooter place on the right, about a block before the 78. That's where we saw you from, but I didn't have your cell number :( .

Oh well. The dogs came up and greeted me. :D I wasn't sure about stopping by,
but I had the camper at Santee Lakes to dump it and refill the water, so I said, why not.
Got any pics of the floor mods ????

Thanks for weighing it!!!


Originally posted by RE:Todd
........ I'll go by a truck scale tomorrow and check the difference......


I'm also curious as to what the truck scale says becasue that sound too light!

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ


Oh well. The dogs came up and greeted me. :D I wasn't sure about stopping by,
but I had the camper at Santee Lakes to dump it and refill the water, so I said, why not.
Got any pics of the floor mods ???? Didn't get to them yet. Cycled the front suspension for shock measurements.

Actually the scales had a conversion factor and we thought it was x2 but it looks like it is a x3 instead (3.27 to be more correct), confirmed by an alt source (diffrent scales) Should read:

Short Bus II

Vehicle weight 3307
Total front 1851
Total Rear 1756

Corner weights
Driver Front 945
Driver Rear 863
Pass front 906
Pass rear 893

Bias
Driverside 50.13%
Pass side 49.86%
Front 51.31%
Rear 48.68%


JC's rig :flipoff2:

Vehicle weight 3744
Total front 1883
Total Rear 1861

Corner weights
Driver Front 958
Driver Rear 929
Pass front 925
Pass rear 932

Bias
Driverside 50.39%
Pass side 49.61%
Front 50.31%
Rear 49.69%


This is still the best we could do with the best that we had. These were not nascar scales but rather a set up for the backyard round track guy. The second scales used were my local truck scales. I used the total weight to find the conversion factor for the other scale set up. When Todd has his rig weighed (total weight) we will see how close the number above is. My weight is within 4#'s

i don't think those numbers are corret either. i can't see todds rig weighing more than a stock truck

We are waiting for him to weigh his at another scale. But I dont see how the scales we used would have a diffrent conversion rate per rig:confused:

Camo what is stock weight??

stock weight+dual cases+bigger(heavier) tires/wheels+ added metal (drop down brackets for front susp. - body/bed but + cage:confused: :confused:


I would say that the second set of numbers are close but we will know for sure when he weighs it again.

I think those numbers sound about right...my 4runner weighed 3770 (- trail gear) according to the certified scale in Margarita

Originally posted by Aaronn
I think those numbers sound about right...my 4runner weighed 3770 (- trail gear) according to the certified scale in Margarita As it sits now?? Mine was 3900, trail ready, without me.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
As it sits now?? Mine was 3900, trail ready, without me. when it was full bodied with 35s

weighed it yet?

It's official, I have no idea how much it weighs. I got 2950 on a local truck scale yesterday, so that what I'm going with :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by RE:Todd
It's official, I have no idea how much it weighs. I got 2950 on a local truck scale yesterday, so that what I'm going with :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Okay, now that you DON'T know how fat ShortBus II is, get busy hacking up the floor. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ


Okay, now that you DON'T know how fat ShortBus II is, get busy hacking up the floor. :flipoff2: Friday :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by RE:Todd
It's official, I have no idea how much it weighs. I got 2950 on a local truck scale yesterday, so that what I'm going with :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

that would have been my guess. Using toy stuff a person would have to work really hard to get it bellow 2700 lbs.

Well we got a crap load done today but the list is still long. The front shock mounts and shocks look real good. Todd took some pics and I am sure he will be posting them soon.

Originally posted by jca
Well we got a crap load done today but the list is still long. The front shock mounts and shocks look real good. Todd took some pics and I am sure he will be posting them soon.


Todd's slacking. It's 3pm and still no pics. :flipoff2:

:D

:)

:rolleyes:

:cool:

;)

what springs are you running in the front? did you just using the main leafs to test the travel?

Originally posted by hiluxman
what springs are you running in the front? did you just using the main leafs to test the travel?


He's running custom "Deaver's" front and rear. He had the springs apart and
was just using the main leafs to check articulation.

Originally posted by hiluxman
what springs are you running in the front? did you just using the main leafs to test the travel?

Actually it is a new pack from Deaver that they are making for the formula toy's but they should work real good on all toy's. The packs should be available to everyone soon as we are done testing.

We are using just the main and a block of wood to simulate the width of the pack.

deavers are cool and all but arent they about 5 benjimans a set?

Originally posted by mobil1syn
deavers are cool and all but arent they about 5 benjimans a set?


We do not have a price on them yet. I would imagine that they will be close to the other springs that are available but we will see once the price is set. They should have a booth at the Jambo too.

The Deavers are great. With the AllPro fronts I had some flex at TDS. The Deavers went on the week after TDS, then I went to Boulevard for recovery. The flex was so much more, that I got the draglink into the radiator outlet, so we have to relocate the radiator. The All-Pros didn't get anywhere close. The 5150's actually cycle close to 16 inches, and we are using all of that except for 1/2" bottom and top, to prevent hard bottoming or topping the shock. We will also be able to mount the rears in a vertical plane for better axle control. So, you might want to stay tuned for a new player in the Toyota spring market, which has an outstanding reputation for quality and cstomer service :D :D

did you guys get your seat redone on sunday?

Rear work

Damn, mine's starting to look like JC's

Paint would be good

Damn, black or yellow

shock boots, that is :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

for the mall

gotta pick up the JH girls :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:eek:

:cool:

Get that thing done, will you. :flipoff2:

Looking good Todd. Now all you have to do is the seats, right ???

:D

hay todd were did you mount your power steering resevior

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ
Get that thing done, will you. :flipoff2:

Looking good Todd. Now all you have to do is the seats, right ??? Bumpstops, seats, panels, motor, firewall

Originally posted by mountain toys
hay todd were did you mount your power steering resevior On a mount in front of the brake booster, comes off of the pedal assembly.

thanks i;ll go out side & look

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Bumpstops, seats, panels, motor, firewall


PAINT :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D

Originally posted by jca



PAINT :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D So it doesn't end up looking like your's :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Hey Todd is the trans in Daves tow rig?

No...so I dont beat you and win the .10 bet:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Pedro Zuk
Hey Todd is the trans in Daves tow rig?


Yes...is it working----No :D

It is in just not completed yet.

If you need help this saturday call me.

Originally posted by Pedro Zuk
If you need help this saturday call me.


If you want to make the drive and get dirty, come awn down.


My only priority this week is to finish Todd's rig. Then I have to make a decision on starting/finishing my rig before the jambo or taking it as is for one more trip (shitty spring's and no shocks :( ) OR I could try to stuff the race truck motor and get it tuned so I can take it to the Jambo to play with too :)

I am sure that Dave will need some help and Joe's truck is still there. I am not exactly sure what is on the to do list for Joe though.

Originally posted by Pedro Zuk
If you need help this saturday call me.

Consider yourself called:D

All I need to do is get the linkage setup and I'l probably try to install a tranny cooler ;)

d

I'll be there whats for dinner ... got any room in the motor home. I'll be there saturday and leave sunday.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Bumpstops, seats, panels, motor, firewall


Dont forget relocate the radiator and gas tank. Although you can check the gas tank off as of today :flipoff2:

Radiator has been relocated, Gas tank has been relocated, Steering has been relocated/adjusted, bumpstops are done, shocks are done, seats have been lowered. Still on the list of have to do's... Heat shield for the exhaust, swap the motor out, seat belt mounts and rollover valve for the gas vent (badley needed :flipoff2: )

http://www.andrewsracing.com/images/Retodds%20rig/4-10-04/pic/flex%20shot.jpg

http://www.andrewsracing.com/images/Retodds%20rig/4-10-04/pic/front%20flex.jpg

http://www.andrewsracing.com/images/Retodds%20rig/4-10-04/pic/front%20bumpstop.jpg

http://www.andrewsracing.com/images/Retodds%20rig/4-10-04/pic/pedals%20fixed.jpg

http://www.andrewsracing.com/images/Retodds%20rig/4-10-04/pic/rear%20bumpstop.jpg

http://www.andrewsracing.com/images/Retodds%20rig/4-10-04/pic/rear%20flex.jpg

Rumor has it you guy's flopped it without me :flipoff2: :flipoff2: .



JC, thanks for the help :D :D

thanks for the pics todd. keep em coming....:)

? about the bumpstops - do they thread into the square tubing?

Originally posted by mobil1syn
? about the bumpstops - do they thread into the square tubing?


No there is a hole drilled and a opening to get to the nut on the back. I will try to take a pic of it but the bat is dead:(

Here is a pic of the nut access

opps wrong nuts:flipoff2:

looking good

Originally posted by jca
Still on the list of have to do's... Heat shield for the exhaust, swap the motor out, seat belt mounts and rollover valve for the gas vent (badley needed).





How about painting the thing?


:p

Yep that too. But that is not going to happen b4 jambo:D

Originally posted by jca
Here is a pic of the nut access


Two nuts for the price of one. :laughing: :flipoff2:

Good job you guys. Seat position looks much better.

so, how far did you guys get? did you get the engine swapped out?

:laughing:

so, how far did you guys get? did you get the engine swapped out?We're good for the weekend, be there Thursday :D :D

Well the list is getting smaller. Here are some current photos

a couple more

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125185

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125188

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125184

ya, when we left my wife said, "how many beers did jc drink while we were there?"http://www.s-10crewcab.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

sounds like yall are slaves...so are you going back down there next weekend too? :D


They won't be there next weekend. There's a comp at Courgar Buttes. :flipoff2:

BTW, I helped them some with your frame early Saturday. How about doing with less Booty Fab this time. :flipoff2:

i am bringing my whole rig back next weekend to your place and lets see what you can get done :D


j/k.....so what did you use the canister for? :)Hobie, I think he'll be at Cougar Buttes. Really, JC, what's up with the cannister??

Looks great guys! Sure would be nice to get a set of radios from Round Eye to go with that sticker:D:D
Looks like you got alot done.
Can't wait for next weekend!!!!

You guys are doing a killer job on that rig..... :D :D :D

I helped them some with your frame early Saturday. How about doing with less Booty Fab this time. :flipoff2:

really, thanks for the work. what exactly all had to be taken off the frame.
i just spent the last 4 hours at dave's house. he cut all the brackets off of it. in the morning i will start griding it all down and makin it perty.

really, thanks for the work. what exactly all had to be taken off the frame.
i just spent the last 4 hours at dave's house. he cut all the brackets off of it. in the morning i will start griding it all down and makin it perty.


All that IFS stuff you saw :flipoff2:

Well the list is getting smaller. Here are some current photos


Ok....which one of you f**kers took the Barbie stickers off???? :flipoff2: :roxy:

Ok....which one of you f**kers took the Barbie stickers off???? :flipoff2: :roxy:


Dont you mean which one of you is STILL taking Barbie stickers off :shaking: :flipoff2: :D

Dont you mean which one of you is STILL taking Barbie stickers off :shaking: :flipoff2: :D

I like to spread the Barbie love! :D :roxy:

I like to spread the Barbie love! :D :roxy:Bring your rig to the Hammers, we'll give it some short bus love :D :D

All that IFS stuff you saw :flipoff2:


Also the gas tank and it's skid. I had to use the hydraulic jack handle
on the end of the ratchet to get enough leverage to break the large bolts
on the IFS crap loose. Those things were a bit rusted. :D

Bring your rig to the Hammers, we'll give it some short bus love :D :D


The child of that union would be a bumble bee. Black & Yellow. :flipoff2:

Bring your rig to the Hammers, we'll give it some short bus love :D :D

I'm sorry, you'll have to take a number. I believe MD called first dibs! :flipoff2: :roxy:

No pics today but I started to get the hood done. Sucks not having a brake and a shear for sheet metal work. It is not perfect but it is coming along. If I had time I would try to get all the hammer marks out of the roof and hood.


Still on the list of to do's
finish hood and hood pins
spotter strap attachment point
window net
stickers/paint/clean up
check fluids
check tires (air)
Tcase and tranny boots (ordered waiting for them to get here)

Load everthing for transport


anything else Todd, Dtoy or Dave??

Talked with Dave and he added

look into fuse block iterference with clutch.

JC, Any updates?

When I get home, we're doing new skins. Lance (Penguin) is supposed to be finding the problem in the charging system that keeps killing the battery and the rear rocklights. Still trying to find an option for the rear chunk without bucking up for an ARB. Might have to redo the seat mounts, waiting for word from Dave :D .

Wish some of these other Formula guys would get it together for August :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Wish some of these other Formula guys would get it together for August :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


they are a bunch of slackers :flipoff2:

^^^^^ What he said^^^^^^^


I am trying to get my rig done and out of the way right now. Funny thing...I work on someones elses rig and there are a ton of people over. I work on my rig and it is just me and the mouse and lizzard stuck on the glue trap :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D I had to get the wife out there :D

^^^^^ What he said^^^^^^^


I am trying to get my rig done and out of the way right now. Funny thing...I work on someones elses rig and there are a ton of people over. I work on my rig and it is just me and the mouse and lizzard stuck on the glue trap :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D I had to get the wife out there :DIf was home :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

^^^^^ What he said^^^^^^^


I am trying to get my rig done and out of the way right now. Funny thing...I work on someones elses rig and there are a ton of people over. I work on my rig and it is just me and the mouse and lizzard stuck on the glue trap :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D I had to get the wife out there :D
well if you didn't live in BFE it'd be easier to help :D

I know what you mean. Justin finally put down the dirt bike and started wheeling again. :flipoff2: We have been doing alot of work to each others rigs. Its cool to have someone around to help or just drink beer and bounce ideas off each other. Maybe I'll live closer soon ;)

I know what you mean. Justin finally put down the dirt bike and started wheeling again. :flipoff2: We have been doing alot of work to each others rigs. Its cool to have someone around to help or just drink beer and bounce ideas off each other. Maybe I'll live closer soon ;)

Ya I am hoping you will :D Like you said it is nice to just have someone else there just incase and to bounce ideas off of.

Dude!!?!?!?
I'm like forty minutes away. AAAAnd, I just got laid off today. So I should have some time on my hands here in the near future. BTW, I just sold a set of your leaf springs for you. What are you up to on Saturday?

Dude!!?!?!?
I'm like forty minutes away. AAAAnd, I just got laid off today. So I should have some time on my hands here in the near future. BTW, I just sold a set of your leaf springs for you. What are you up to on Saturday?


Should be working on the rig if I am not at my paying job. Call first.

JC, What are you doing to your rig?

Maybe you should start the "Fugly bugly II" build up thread :flipoff2:

Maybe you should start the "Fugly bugly II" build up thread :flipoff2:

Fugly Bugly :laughing: :laughing:

That's fukin great :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

JC, What are you doing to your rig?

Maybe you should start the "Fugly bugly II" build up thread :flipoff2:



A--Hole :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



I am putting Deavers, shocks and bumpstops on it :D

Fugly Bugly :laughing: :laughing:

That's fukin great :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


You haven't heard that ??? JC's junk has been called that for months now. :flipoff2:

What? Still no paint? :(

The Deavers should be cool

What? Still no paint? :(

The Deavers should be cool


Mike, it still had that nice rust color as of 2 1/2 weeks ago when I was there.

Mike, it still had that nice rust color as of 2 1/2 weeks ago when I was there.
JC told me that was Hawaii Earth Tone paint :confused: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

JC told me that was Hawaii Earth Tone paint :confused: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

BTW Todd, your junk was looking pretty nice when I was there. :D

JC told me that was Hawaii Earth Tone paint :confused: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:



I said it was a paint color called "Natures recipe" :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

You told me it was called "Hint of Ramona."

You told me it was called "Stench of Ramona." ??? :confused: :confused: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

??? :confused: :confused: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

:laughing: :laughing:

New luggage rack and gas filler. Everyone should have a luggage rack on their comp buggy :D :D http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=163437&stc=1 http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=163438&stc=1

Thanks Bobby Long and JC . http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=163439&stc=1 http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=163440&stc=1

Hey Todd, lookin good :D

What size MTR's/wheels are those?
Looks like 37x15s and 15x10 w/2.75" back-space

super bling beadlocks, looks good todd.

Hey Todd, lookin good :D

What size MTR's/wheels are those?
Looks like 37x15s and 15x10 w/2.75" back-spaceTire size is right, wheels are stock backspacing (3.75??), 8" wide.

I think those were 4" backspaced.

looks damn good todd. you competing or doin recovery over new years :confused:

Should have made the rack bigger, those two coolers can't hold enough beer to last you one trail run. :flipoff2:

looks damn good todd. you competing or doin recovery over new years :confused:Recovery

Should have made the rack bigger, those two coolers can't hold enough beer to last you one trail run. :flipoff2:But they hold plenty for you :flipoff2: