Just thought I'd share these pics of a cagemy dads dooin for one of his buddys.

can never have too many pics for the search. :flipoff2:

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Apparently you are NOT expecting to have people sit in the back... unless they enjoy climbing over either a bar or the seat...

Originally posted by JaxLax
Apparently you are NOT expecting to have people sit in the back... unless they enjoy climbing over either a bar or the seat...

yes the stock back seat is slated to go into the EB. Weather or not more than the dogs ever sit in it, well... :flipoff2:

Is this the finished product?
Any more bracing above the head?

Originally posted by Shoope1
Is this the finished product?
Any more bracing above the head?

primered last night.. paint tonight.. install tomorrow. its done.

Looks good sceep, I just thought I would reply because if you look at where the bar (the one under the side window) ties into the hoop (behind the seats) the bend looks different in every picture. Optical illusion but interesting, in the first picture it looks like they both bend towards the drivers side, in the second picture it looks like they both bend up and in the third it looks like they bend up.

My guess is they bend in since the rear bar is a bit wider than the front? Also what size tubing 2" and 1 1/2" for the seats (or is the small stuff something else)

Originally posted by EBSTEVE
Looks good sceep, I just thought I would reply because if you look at where the bar (the one under the side window) ties into the hoop (behind the seats) the bend looks different in every picture. Optical illusion but interesting, in the first picture it looks like they both bend towards the drivers side, in the second picture it looks like they both bend up and in the third it looks like they bend up.

My guess is they bend in since the rear bar is a bit wider than the front? Also what size tubing 2" and 1 1/2" for the seats (or is the small stuff something else)

the B and C pilar are the same width behind the seats. The bends in the "under window" bars go up. reasoning... when we put the behind the seat bar in it needed a small bend towards the rear to clear the drivers seat when all the way back on the sliders. then we wanted the window bars right @ bed height. but i wanted all the end points to meet at the same spot. Just looks better IMO. should have some finished installed pics by this weekend.
2" and 1.25"

Thats tits man!!!!!!!:)

When can i drop my truck off for the exo?:confused: :D

-David

holy sweet jebus thats sweet...makes me feel bad about the one I'm building. Too bad you didnt do such a good job on your dad's, guess his safety comes second:flipoff2:

Originally posted by braxton357
holy sweet jebus thats sweet...makes me feel bad about the one I'm building. Too bad you didnt do such a good job on your dad's, guess his safety comes second:flipoff2:

Bahahahahah..

My dads cage is the first one that we ever built, back in '94. Its pretty pathetic (huuuge understatement).

I'ts coming out this winter for a full blown goodie before Cruces. ;)

Originally posted by sceep


I'ts coming out this winter for a full blown goodie before Cruces. ;)
gettin ready to get started... I think this is what we are gonna try for. Unless he changes his mind again :shaking:

Originally posted by sceep

gettin ready to get started... I think this is what we are gonna try for. Unless he changes his mind again :shaking:

I don't know shit..but I made some changes that I like anyway:flipoff2:

In the rear, it looks way too open to me, I would extend that c-pillar all the way to the top tube, and possibly somehow put a tube across between the 2 sides for lateral support. And then on the side bar, I dont know about you but that would be pretty damn annoying hitting my thigh all of the time, I was gonna mount mine like that at first but then bent it (not like in the drawing but I dont have a-cad either:flipoff2: ) The only other thing is you gotta remember the wiper motor, so you can't mount the front bar too close, and of course..all the obligatory gussets that im sure you've got covered.


:edit: (and I wanted to use my red star for something useful for the first time too)

Is this cage for two seats or will there be a back seat as well...

I dig the unique idea but like it was said, the rear would be weak the way you have it. You don't want a joint in the middle of a span that isn't supported.

What software did you use to do the cage? Solidworks?

Jack

Originally posted by Shoope1
Is this cage for two seats or will there be a back seat as well...

two seats and room for a dog or two in back.

Originally posted by IronBenderII
I dig the unique idea but like it was said, the rear would be weak the way you have it. You don't want a joint in the middle of a span that isn't supported.

What software did you use to do the cage? Solidworks?

Jack

autocad r2004

more revisions...

how bout something like this?

Originally posted by RedNeckRea
how bout something like this?

looks good but looks to "normal' for me. ;)

Originally posted by sceep


looks good but looks to "normal' for me. ;)

well if you don't want to use it then I think I just might use it :D.

Have you got a die to bend that ~180* bend at the back? I would suppose so...

Very creative I like it. Here is somthing I came up with for fun.

Originally posted by braxton357
holy sweet jebus thats sweet...makes me feel bad about the one I'm building. Too bad you didnt do such a good job on your dad's, guess his safety comes second:flipoff2:


;) cagehas moved on to a better life now, just for your own peace of mind. ;)

Originally posted by sceep



;) cagehas moved on to a better life now, just for your own peace of mind. ;)

Old cage converted to a jungle gym. Doin it for the kids..I like that. :beer::D

Very nice, that's what I was hoping mine would have looked like when finished...leave it to someone else to not follow directions...lol Anyways, cost a price on one of those?

Here you go:

http://www.jeepaholics.com/citizensband/forum/files/Jeepincj7/20030825164513_ebcage65.jpg

http://www.jeepaholics.com/citizensband/forum/files/Jeepincj7/20030825164656_ebcage72.jpg

Loved the look of the triangled rear, plus the strength is much better where my kids ride. These pics were before adding some more gussets.

More pics can be seen HERE (http://www.broncoholics.com/support/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4)

Nice work. That's a pretty fresh design for an EB. I cloned the Avalanche/PSC cage for a friend's TJ.

I was too lazy to try to extract my hard top from my cluttered garage for a test fit when I built my current Bronco cage. I wasn't too worrried about it not fitting, since I wasn't exactly married to the idea of running it. I finally dug it out and tried to put it on, only to discover that That one of the reenforcement ribs in the hard top (hadn't accounted for it when I measured) interfered with my cage.

As for wiper motor clearance, here's one way to gain a little more room:

http://getbent.4t.com/images/cageoverheadcloseup.jpg

The rest of the cage is a little vanilla, but its gone now anyway. Here's a pic of my current cage:

http://getbent.4t.com/images/broncoonrocks2.jpg

The design is amlost a little too busy for me. I am going to build another sometime soon.

stocker75, how about a few more pictures, it looks great from the one.
JeepinCJ7, I love the design of yours but I am curious of why you went with the tubing ending at the top of the windshield instead of a continuous tube? I think that I will be stealing the rear design of that in about a month when I redo mine.

Originally posted by EBSTEVE
stocker75, how about a few more pictures, it looks great from the one.
JeepinCJ7, I love the design of yours but I am curious of why you went with the tubing ending at the top of the windshield instead of a continuous tube? I think that I will be stealing the rear design of that in about a month when I redo mine.

The reason I did that was because I wanted to tie the windshield into the cage. Without the hardtop on, the winshield pretty much floats. Those two dash bolts are worthless, so the initial design was to use two L brackets welded to the butt of the tubing and then I tied those into the cage. One bar would have been a cleaner look, but wouldn't have been as functional for what I wanted to do.

I also decided that I wanted the top of the cage flat. I could have gained a little more clearance on the center by bending the spreaders for more clearance, but I have a Conferr 48"x60" roof rack, that is on the hard top. I welded tabs to the cage to be able to run the rack on top of the cage when the top is off. I have three kids, so on long trips (Rubicon, Dusy, etc) I need a place for more storage. I won't like having all that extra weight up top, but its better than not bringing food with me...... :D Most of my dry gear will go up top, and I'll still have room for a cooler or two behind the new rear seat I just ordered to fit my three kids.

The other reason for the flat top is to run aluminum panels instead of a bikini top. This way I can still install the hard top without having to remove the panels. Similar to what EJ did on his YJ:
http://www.jeepaholics.com/citizensband/forum/files/Jeepincj7/20040116085735_EJ.jpg

Basically, I needed the cage to be more than just a cage.

Ok I am curious now of how you tied the windshield frame into the cage, normally people just make adjustable stops with rubber on the end and it's tensioned with he bikini top but if you are not running one did you bolt it to the cage? Is the cage tied into the frame, I ask because if I bolted my windshield to my cage it would self destruct due to vibrations.
I could not see a reason for them but its clear now and from the looks of it there was some forethought and I was sure there was a reason.

Originally posted by EBSTEVE
Ok I am curious now of how you tied the windshield frame into the cage, normally people just make adjustable stops with rubber on the end and it's tensioned with he bikini top but if you are not running one did you bolt it to the cage? Is the cage tied into the frame, I ask because if I bolted my windshield to my cage it would self destruct due to vibrations.
I could not see a reason for them but its clear now and from the looks of it there was some forethought and I was sure there was a reason.

No, my cage is not tied to the frame, so it moves with the tub. Also, remember that every YJ and TJ factory cage is tied into the windshield, so tieing it to the winshield wouldn't create anymore stress than a Jeep's would create, and I have never seen a YJ or TJ windshield crack from flexing or vibration. Basically, picture an L bracket. The vertical part is welded to the tubing. The horizontal part slides under the top of the windshield frame, and then you bolt the winshield to the horizontal piece thru a drilled hole. Easy as pie. As long as you set it up with the hard top in place, you will get the angle on the windshield frame perfect with the rise of the hard door.

Thanks, I was just curious. I know that plenty of people bolt them together but I don't think I will due to the shakes I have.
Again nice looking cage.

Unfortunately, I don't have any more decent pics of the cage. I kept waiting to get my front clip ironed out and reinstalled, before I took some pics for my web page. Now I've got the hard top on and its dark outside.

As for tying into the windshield, I just used a 1" piece of flat stock, welded to the front hoop and bolted under a top mounting bolt on the windshield frame. It will take care of all of those wobbles and vibrations caused by the wiper motor dancing all around.

Originally posted by sceep

gettin ready to get started... I think this is what we are gonna try for. Unless he changes his mind again :shaking:

just wonderin what cad prog you made these in?

Originally posted by JeepinCJ7


No, my cage is not tied to the frame, so it moves with the tub. Also, remember that every YJ and TJ factory cage is tied into the windshield, so tieing it to the winshield wouldn't create anymore stress than a Jeep's would create, and I have never seen a YJ or TJ windshield crack from flexing or vibration. Basically, picture an L bracket. The vertical part is welded to the tubing. The horizontal part slides under the top of the windshield frame, and then you bolt the winshield to the horizontal piece thru a drilled hole. Easy as pie. As long as you set it up with the hard top in place, you will get the angle on the windshield frame perfect with the rise of the hard door.

The w/s frame WILL flex separately from the tub/cage. And WILL crack. Some people use rubber strips such as from exhaust hangers between the cage and w/s. I took 4 small female ended heims and some allthread and put them together to attach btween the cage and W/s and provide for flex...