I've never bothered to find out cause pulling a single vehicle trailer was a no brainer. Can a 99 f-250 super duty turbo diesel with a gooseneck pull a 2 vehicle trailer...say 9-10k lbs? Anyone know what that rear axle (Sterling 10.25?) is rated for?

Originally posted by paniolo
I've never bothered to find out cause pulling a single vehicle trailer was a no brainer. Can a 99 f-250 super duty turbo diesel with a gooseneck pull a 2 vehicle trailer...say 9-10k lbs? Anyone know what that rear axle (Sterling 10.25?) is rated for?

That should be well within the tolerable range. I know my GMC 2500HD is rated to tow 12,000lbs. My truck has a slightly higher GVWR, but it's also a gas smallblock. So, I don't think you'd have much to worry about with a 9-10k load behind it.

TEX

Originally posted by TEX


That should be well within the tolerable range. I know my GMC 2500HD is rated to tow 12,000lbs. My truck has a slightly higher GVWR, but it's also a gas smallblock. So, I don't think you'd have much to worry about with a 9-10k load behind it.

TEX

Does GM now give out "Gooseneck" tow capacities? or is that the "tag-along" rating?

I've been wondering what the realistic rating of my old 4dr IH is.. but the owner's manual calls out for a 6,000lbs with an equalizer for the typical "200" (I have the uprated 9k GVW model)..

What kind of rigs are you (panolio) talking about on a dual car trailer?

My lightest truck is 3700lbs and it's the stripped down racer..

My buddy's 25' gooseneck is a bit heavy even for what it is at 5,000lbs, but I'd guess most 25' trailers would be in the 4,000lbs range by themselves..

That said, that 5k trailer with an EB and something else on it, and a FJ40 flat-towed behind it was hauled behind my friend's 80s F250 ex-cab the 700 miles to Moab n' back without any problems. 460/T18/3.25 gears.

Easily pulls that kind of weight. I have pulled around 17,000 lbs with my old F-250 powerstroke. But really thats a bit heavy. But I pulled two jeeps on a trailer easily.

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Does GM now give out "Gooseneck" tow capacities? or is that the "tag-along" rating?

GM does give a different rating for goosenecks, but to be honest I'm not sure if that 12k is gooseneck or tagalong. I only tow about 5.5k, so I knew I was well within tolerances when I got this rig. I would THINK 12k is the goosneck rating for my rig as the gooseneck rating on the dually is ~15k.

What kind of rigs are you (panolio) talking about on a dual car trailer?

My lightest truck is 3700lbs and it's the stripped down racer..

My buddy's 25' gooseneck is a bit heavy even for what it is at 5,000lbs, but I'd guess most 25' trailers would be in the 4,000lbs range by themselves..

Yeah, I too was wondering if 9-10k would be too conservative of an estimate for the load he was plannin'. Depends on the riders I guess.

TEX

Originally posted by TEX


GM does give a different rating for goosenecks, but to be honest I'm not sure if that 12k is gooseneck or tagalong. I only tow about 5.5k, so I knew I was well within tolerances when I got this rig. I would THINK 12k is the goosneck rating for my rig as the gooseneck rating on the dually is ~15k.


I figure I'm overrated for what I'm hauling at the moment, too. I was hauling my ~5.5-6k of trailer behind my 1/2T Travelall..

I'm at 12,500lbs rolling down the highway. 5500lbs on the trailer axles, 3300 on the front on the pickup, 3700 on the rear of the truck....

That with a 3700lbs Scout on the trailer, along with extra tires, moderate toolbox, and race fuel.

but that 25' gooseneck may be for sale... :D :D

sure, (i wish.........not mine)

The Power-Stroke will laugh at that kind of weight :D

No problem pulling or with the bed weight, you could even add many thousands of pounds...

You will slow down...

I have a 97 350 Crew 4X4 7.3 PS

I have loaded the bed to the top of the cab with hard wood (long box) and pulled an 18 ft trailer loaded 4 ft high with said wood.
This was no problem and probably weighed in at near what you are talking about or more.

Cory

Yeah, I'm too conservative on the trailer weight. 2 Toys at 4,000 each plus the trailer...I way underestimated the trailer. So I'm probably more like 13,000

welndmn, paint that truck red and put 2 Toys on the back and I'm in that pic :D Wouldn't have that much additional weight...my 2 small boys and camping gear. That red trailer would match my truck real nice...

I would be looking at renting a big trailer to take a friend to the Chilli Challenge with me

I've never bothered to find out cause pulling a single vehicle trailer was a no brainer. Can a 99 f-250 super duty turbo diesel with a gooseneck pull a 2 vehicle trailer...say 9-10k lbs?

It will pull it all day long. If you dont have a pyrometer get one, and make sure you keep an eye on your exhaust temperature. :mad3:

Well you might think I am full of shit but my neigbor is a custom wheat cutter and he pulls a fuel trailer from field to field (some times requires going down the interstate) with his and he claims it (trailer) weighs in at 30,000 lbs fully loaded. He says he has run 80 just to see if it could do it.

The Ford brouchure says that it can haul between 12000 to 14400 depending on the axle ratio, rear wheel setup, and tranny. The saleman also said that's underrated. Whatever that's worth.
axle rating @ ground
6084 lbs. F250
6830 lbs. F350 SRW
9750 lbs. F350 DRW

hope this helps ;)

No problem for the powerstroke! We haul 2 Jeeps everywhere and it handles it great. Plus, this trailer is a little on the heavy side. But it still has no problem with it.

http://www.tristatejeepers.com/images/truck%20and%20trailer2.jpg

Originally posted by redbaron
No problem for the powerstroke! We haul 2 Jeeps everywhere and it handles it great. Plus, this trailer is a little on the heavy side. But it still has no problem with it.

http://www.tristatejeepers.com/images/truck%20and%20trailer2.jpg

I've got a standard 8x16 flat bed that's deck sits that high but it's a tag along. haven't had a chance to use it yet, since trailer brakes are non-functional and those california wheels suck. Was wondering how you guys think it would tow behind a 96 Ram 4x4 extended cab 1500 uhh superduty? (The suspension, is about equivalent to a 3/4 superduty.)

Check over at Ford Diesel (http://www.ford-diesel.com) .

Originally posted by scramblin


It will pull it all day long. If you dont have a pyrometer get one, and make sure you keep an eye on your exhaust temperature. :mad3:


I'll second that. Granted, my dads 2000 F350 has had a little minor computer adjustment, but I towed a 24' gooseneck with a bronco and a FJ40 on it 200 miles to Moab, and if I wasn't constantly watching the gauges, I could have easily had major problems. It was way to easy to push the exhaust temp higher than it could tolerate. Definitely possible to :nuke:

Should be fine. One of my buds has a F350 Crew with the deisel. They got a 2 car trailer (not a goose) and put 3 jeeps on it. It was a tight fit. had to take the spare tire off the middle jeep to get it as short as possible. The front jeep was backed on so the spare rack and jambo rack hung off the front. Last jeep was just able to get the tires on the trailer.
Ran it from Atlanta to Moab without any problems.

big 5th wheel travel trailors weigh upwards of 12000 and then some.people pull them all over the country,and they have bad wind drag.you should be able to pull to rigs on a trailor at one time.i have thought about doing the same thing...

when i was in nv i hauled 2 broncos to cedar city ut, my bronco and a cj7 to the rubicon with a 97 f250 psd. it pulls fine. just make sure you have good trailer brakes. my current work truck is a 95 f350 dually psd and i have gone down the road more than once at over 30,000 lbs gross. trust me when i say a pickup shouldnt be moving that kinda weight. last too heavy trip like that i was going 30 mph up pacheco pass on my way to monterey

Originally posted by Todd
Check over at Ford Diesel (http://www.ford-diesel.com) .

Thanks for the input everyone. Checked out this website and it had ratings as published by Ford. There was a '99 power stroke FAQ there about legal towing weights at this link. legal towing weights (http://www.ford-diesel.com/faq/1999faq/FAQ-Hauling.htm)

Some Highlights:

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) is 8,800 lbs so after truck, passengers, fluids and equipment you have 800 to 1,000 lbs left for the trailer toungue or gooseneck

Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) The GCWR is the maximum combined weight of your loaded tow vehicle and the loaded trailer. The GCWR of all PSD SuperDuty F-250 and F-350 pickups is 20,000 pounds.

So in real rough terms you can legally tow about 12,000 lbs...the problem is the toungue weight to stay under the GVWR. Since goosenecks put so much more weight onto the tow vehicle (20-25%) it seems a conventional tag along is the better choice...although those are limited to 10,000 lbs on a receiver hitch.

Any comments on gooseneck vs. tag-alongs?

Gooseneck is the way to go. I don't like bumper pull trailers with that much weight behind them.

BTW, we tow 28" goosenecks behind 1-ton Dodge deisels all day every day with weights up to 28,000#.....just don't let DOT catch ya with that much weight!!! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by paniolo


Any comments on gooseneck vs. tag-alongs?

Gooseneck is infinitely superior. The key here is not to get fouled up by the gobletygook you read in the truck owner's manual. For example, it says all F250 & F350 SuperDuty's have the same GCWR of 20k. Well, consider that an F350 CrewCab dually with a Powerstroke weighs significantly more than a reg-cab F250 with a 5.4. Since the former truck is probably 1,000 lbs heavier, the latter is actually "rated" to tow more weight & still stay within its GCWR. Well, do we really believe the F250 to be a better tow vehicle than an F350 dually? Of course not.

Bottom line, I'm not fond of towing much more than 7k with a tag-a-long. You're far better off with a gooseneck.

TEX

My pops has a f250 Powerstroke that he pulls a 34' 5th wheel that weighs 12,500lbs with. He has not issues...pulls it just fine.

FWIW, a B&W Turn-over Ball gooseneck hitch is rated for 25-30,000 lbs. You do the math.

The F-250 with the 7.3 can easily get the weight of 2 Jeeps rolling, but have you intalled trailer brakes for the setup on your truck? Getting going is one this, stopping is the tough part...

David - The truck should pull the load of yours and Johns truck fine. My '95 Powerstroke hauled a loader around a time or two that weighed a whole lot more than your two toys. And my old '99 Powerstroke (recently sold to Ray Shelton) would pull 8000 lbs at 80+mph easily.

FWIW Your truck has a Sterling 10.5 not the 10.25 found on the
old body style trucks.

duke