I have a set of 4 12 bolt hummer rims with no beadlocks. I have searched all over for a set of beadlocks, but have found nuthin so I thought maybe I could make my own.

What if I got a piece of aluminum or steel in a ring or rolled plate and had it so that when the rims were bolted together it acted like the internal beadlock. I figure the tire will act a a sort of cushion, and if I can measure the inside of the tire when on the rim, or guesstimate via measuring evrything, or measure the rubber beadlock and make mine slightly (1/8 inch) smaller shouldn't this work?
need any input on this
thanks

yep that would work.basically the hummer bead lock is the same thing excpet it has the run flat.Which if it is the metal run flat it needs to be cut off or your tire won't last long on the rocks....and I imagine it would interfer with tire flex...

Sorry I didn't reply sooner on this one, I think you asked me this in an email.

You could do something in aluminum, but you would have to make it either

a. really thick to give enough surfaceso that it wouldn't cut into the tire.
b. Add a t-cross on the end to give it a flange to butt up against the tire.

Thick rubber would work better (like the stock ones). Maybe something like old conveyer belt material (??). The stock ones also have a channel and hole built into them for the air to get into the tire (don't forget that!)

Sorry I haven't been able to find enough for you. I have 1 right now, but that won't be enough.

Here's a pic of it if it helps you.

http://www.gohumvee.com/images/misc/hummerwheels/beadlock.jpg

could you send me the dimensions of it?

http://www.gohumvee.com/images/misc/beadlock/mid/1.jpg

http://www.gohumvee.com/images/misc/beadlock/mid/2.jpg

http://www.gohumvee.com/images/misc/beadlock/mid/3.jpg

http://www.gohumvee.com/images/misc/beadlock/mid/4.jpg

As soon as I get my set of magnesium beadlocks/runflats, I could get you the measurements on those. I would be interested if you can find something to work. I ended up settling for the beadlock/runfalts because of the cost $17.00 ea vrs. $140.00+ for rubber beadlocks.

Do you really think I will have trouble with the runflats on the rocks? I figured since I will be running 42" swampers it will have a ways before the tire contacts the runflat. Any thoughts?

I dunno if they will work on Hummer rims but have you tried ROCKSTOMPER (www.rockstomper.com) :question:

Originally posted by cruiserrg
As soon as I get my set of magnesium beadlocks/runflats, I could get you the measurements on those. I would be interested if you can find something to work. I ended up settling for the beadlock/runfalts because of the cost $17.00 ea vrs. $140.00+ for rubber beadlocks.

Do you really think I will have trouble with the runflats on the rocks? I figured since I will be running 42" swampers it will have a ways before the tire contacts the runflat. Any thoughts?

It might be a good idea to start locating a plasma cutter because those 42 are going to end up with a hole in them if you run the run flat..

Don't let the hype get out of hand here. :rolleyes:

I am running the runflats with 38.5's and wheeling hard. They have not hit yet at 8-10 psi. Any lower pressure than that and the 16" wide tires on the 8.25" rim kinda start folding up and losing traction. With 42's you will be fine.

Also, using fire on a magnesium insert? I guess maybe I missed the fact that you really were joking. I like seeing magnesium burn too, but not my magnesium Jeep parts! LOL

Ed

try
My Humvee.com
I bought 4 for $300
they are the radial style rubber ones.
I cut the runflat part off to save weight
I tried to think of something else to make the beadlock out of but gave up.

I'm also using the mag beadlock/runflats with 38.5 x14.5sx and at 9-10 lbs the tire ever touchs the runflat.

You won't have any problems with the run flats on 42's my buddy has been running them for about 2 years and has never had problems with them cutting the tires, he ran them on 38x12.50 Sx's with out any problems also, I have a set of them and plan on running them with 38x12.50 Sx's.

well could you measure the mag runflats and post the specs so I can figure out if it's possible to make my own

also whats the deal with running bias ply tires like swampers on the civie radial rims? I see you're doing it wolf any problems or concerns?

hey wolf you wanna sell that one beadlock?
i'de like to have it to measure and maybe I'll collect the other 3

Originally posted by fcfred
well could you measure the mag runflats and post the specs so I can figure out if it's possible to make my own

also whats the deal with running bias ply tires like swampers on the civie radial rims? I see you're doing it wolf any problems or concerns?

fcfred,
When I get them I will, but probably won't be for another week or so. Ground UPS from WA to WI takes a while.
Maybe someone else running them can get specs sooner.

ALSO thanks for the responses from those actually running the magnesium runfalts. Good to hear they work, plus I too had concerns with fire and magnesium. And I couldn't figure why sharp edges from cutting one wouldn't even be worse.

Thanks

Originally posted by PYRO
I'm also using the mag beadlock/runflats with 38.5 x14.5sx and at 9-10 lbs the tire ever touchs the runflat.

No offense ....but what exactly is the point of having beadlocks if your are going to run 9-10 pounds of air in the tires(unless your stuck with 16.5's)? Most everyone I know that runs bead locks run at tops 6 lbs and as low as 3 1/2 ..all with 44's and 42's..

Running 16" wide TSL's on the 8" wide hummer rims means you don't have to run the same low pressure. With the sidewall bulge that combo makes, running at 3 or 4 psi (I have tried it that low) the whole tire just starts folding up instead of grabbing and wrapping around rocks. If you raise the pressure to about 8-10 psi, it performs just like a beadlocked TSL on a 10 or 12 inch rim at 3 psi.

Ed

No Offence taken, The point is, that's the pressure that works for me. At that pressure, even on flat ground the contact patch is 16" long x 12.5" wide and in the rocks, they wraps around everything.

If Your trying to telling me 9lbs in a 16.5 without beadlocks will work? I don't believe that for a second.

Originally posted by PYRO
No Offence taken, The point is, that's the pressure that works for me. At that pressure, even on flat ground the contact patch is 16" long x 12.5" wide and in the rocks, they wraps around everything.

If Your trying to telling me 9lbs in a 16.5 without beadlocks will work? I don't believe that for a second.
I don't think that 15 lbs works with the 16.5...:D 20 maybe:eek:

Originally posted by fcfred
well could you measure the mag runflats and post the specs so I can figure out if it's possible to make my own

also whats the deal with running bias ply tires like swampers on the civie radial rims? I see you're doing it wolf any problems or concerns?

No problem running the 44's on the Radial rims.

Looking at the rubber inegrated beadlock/runflats I have, they are the same width as the beadlock itself, you could easily cut off the runflat if you wanted. Then it would be identical to the beadlock. They are made of rubber, so it shouldn't be hard to cut it off.

Certainly a lot easier than cutting up a mil mag one.

Tim.

daniel if you have the rubber beadlocks like wolf posted above then I'm interested
what do you want for a set?
please email me prices and a shipping quote to 97209

Which wheels will the rubber run flats fit? 8 or 12 bolt?

Ed