Some of the Benders are thinking of coming to AZ, 17-19 January. BTG, want to show us around?? I promise not to drop my truck on my hand :D :D :D .

I wanna Go!!!!



Beerman

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Some of the Benders are thinking of coming to AZ, 17-19 January. BTG, want to show us around?? I promise not to drop my truck on my hand :D :D :D .


ROAD TRIP!!!!!!:D







hope my junk makes it through new years
:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Ohhhhhhhh, have we got a trail for you........ MUUUUUHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!

The Tin Benders are always welcome in the BTG camp.
Party time.:beer:

Mar and I will be there. First time for us, really looking forward to it! Hey, these trails aren't going to be too hard and scary are they? :D :D

Originally posted by zags
Ohhhhhhhh, have we got a trail for you........ MUUUUUHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!

The Tin Benders are always welcome in the BTG camp.
Party time.:beer: Table Mesa?? I assume that is :D :D .

I'll be there, we're gonna burn the midnight oil to get the SAS done by then.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Some of the Benders are thinking of coming to AZ, 17-19 January. BTG, want to show us around?? I promise not to drop my truck on my hand :D :D :D .

I got the jack stands ;)

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Table Mesa?? I assume that is :D :D .

It depends on how wet it is, how many rigs there are, and what you guys want to run.
Table Mesa would be great, I was thinking I would love to see JR's rig on Matrix. But it is totally undoable if there is water in it. Of course there are plenty of other trails out there to hit.
We may want to go over to the White Tanks and hit Landslide(really awsome night run) and Asylum if we can still get in there.

I'll be there if my schedule permits!

Chris

Awsome this should be fun to watch:D :D

My right foot is getting twitchy just thinking about it :D
So it seems that the Matrix is the bad'est. Great, let's not start with that one ;). Here's others I've heard of: Anaconda, White tanks, Terminator, Axle Alley, the Asylum and the ever elusive, Boom Town.
How close are these trails together? It'd be great to get back to the camper at night :blender:
My bro, hefe, has done some of these trails in the summer, at night of course. Zags, I don't know, maybe you've got a plan for us :evil: :D, just kind of gettin a feel for it. We plan to stay another day either Thur. or Mon. if anybody else is up for it!

Originally posted by JR
My right foot is getting twitchy just thinking about it :D
So it seems that the Matrix is the bad'est. Great, let's not start with that one ;). Here's others I've heard of: Anaconda, White tanks, Terminator, Axle Alley, the Asylum and the ever elusive, Boom Town.
How close are these trails together? It'd be great to get back to the camper at night :blender:
My bro, hefe, has done some of these trails in the summer, at night of course. Zags, I don't know, maybe you've got a plan for us :evil: :D, just kind of gettin a feel for it. We plan to stay another day either Thur. or Mon. if anybody else is up for it! I plan on leaving SD, mid-morning on Friday, coming home on Monday morning.

http://azrockcrawler.com/_images/maps/3/terminators/terminatorsaerial.html (Anaconda Terminator)are not to far from here.
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=M7tNO.p_0TqT&csz=black+canyon+city+az&country=us


(Asylum White tanks)nearest gas stations to the trails are here. then trails are north west of here
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=la759Op_0ToDfGSkAZuo1H5qxCFm9KLypHv 8Yeaa&csz=buckeye+az&country=us

(Axle Alley) nearest gas station station http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=M7tNO.p_0TqT&csz=florence++junction+az&country=us

The trail is south east of it.


Boom Town who the hell knows:confused:

I'm sooooo in :D

I'm taking bets on how much of my tired 4runner will be left after a week at the hammers followed up by 2 days trying to follow the BTG guys:flipoff2:


d

Thanks, Pappa Smurf, helps to get my bearings, look forward to meet you!
JeepReco, try not to bust your junk up too bad so you won't be good to go to AZ. I might need some water out of your camper for my tires :D :
I'd be at the hammers over new years with you guys , but the busted leg is going to hold me back :(

Come out and hang out/ride if you have too JR!! It is still good times being out there withj friends.

I could be in if my new motor is up and running, doubt it though.

Did hell freeze over? The Benders are going somewhere besides the Hammers?:flipoff2:
Sounds good. We have some fun stuff for ya.

Fatty, get your shit together. You don't want to miss out.

Not to throw a wet blanket on the fun, but almost anywhere you want to wheel here, you will need a permit to access Az State Tust lands...

$15 for one person, $20 for a family permit,,,, family permits cover spouse and 2 kids undwe 15.. So if your buddy is going to ride, he needs a permit of hiz own.. Sucksdon't it?

You have plenty of time to call and get your application in.. The number iz 602 364 ASLD..BTW the fine starts at $300 if they catch you without the permit.....

I am prolly going to have surgery before you guys get over here, so wont be able to run witya, but maybe I can hang oput around the fire some evening...

They never say any thing to us now in tucson we needed one but we got off.

Originally posted by JackA
Did hell freeze over? The Benders are going somewhere besides the Hammers Hey, I was there last year. What about this permit thing ???

I'll check into the permit thing this week. It tried to buy one at 4Wheelers a couple months ago and they said the state didn't have enough money to print them, let alone enforce them. Mine expired 6 months ago and after hearing that I said F it. Besides most of the wheeling we're doing at table mesa is on BLM land anyway. Camping is BLM too. That all changes if we go to Florence though. Don't sweat it.

I've got plenty of room at my house (20 mins from Table Mesa) if needed. It's gonna be cold up there at night, 35-40 probably. My blood is too thin, except if I get lots of booze in me. Drunk Pat might make an appearance.

Originally posted by pmurf1
I'll check into the permit thing this week. It tried to buy one at 4Wheelers a couple months ago and they said the state didn't have enough money to print them, let alone enforce them. Mine expired 6 months ago and after hearing that I said F it. Besides most of the wheeling we're doing at table mesa is on BLM land anyway. Camping is BLM too. That all changes if we go to Florence though. Don't sweat it.

I've got plenty of room at my house (20 mins from Table Mesa) if needed. It's gonna be cold up there at night, 35-40 probably. My blood is too thin, except if I get lots of booze in me. Drunk Pat might make an appearance.

Lmao :laughing:

Like you ever drink:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

White tanks you don't need one i'm pretty sure

Originally posted by pmurf1
Camping is BLM too.

Is the camping in a big enough area? My motorhome and trailer is right around 63'? Let us know about the permit thing. Is the permit something that you can purchase fpr us if needed? Are there pay stations where we will wheel? Thanks

Originally posted by JackA
Did hell freeze over? The Benders are going somewhere besides the Hammers?:flipoff2:
Sounds good. We have some fun stuff for ya.

Fatty, get your shit together. You don't want to miss out.

Are you trying to tell me that are other places to go other than the Hammers? I don't follow you...:confused:

I hope to get the project finished but it's based money, you know the bling blang...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by jca


Is the camping in a big enough area? My motorhome and trailer is right around 63'? Let us know about the permit thing. Is the permit something that you can purchase fpr us if needed? Are there pay stations where we will wheel? Thanks

About two miles of good gravel road if we end up at our usual spot. Plenty of room, no fee stations. No services. Just bigger bushes than Johnson Valley. :D

Originally posted by Pappa Smurf


White tanks you don't need one i'm pretty sure

Table Mesa, after the first parking lot is BLM, all trails on BLM except for part of Raw Deal. If you head down towards the lake you enter the Lake Pleasant Park, $5 use fee per day, we rarely go down there.

White Tanks - State Trust, permit required but rarely enforced. There is a desert preserve out there as well, it was expanded but the boundaries vary depending on who you ask. Another year and I bet they start closing this area down due to dust and noise, it's already happening on the north side of the White Tanks.

Florence Junction - State Trust till you get back to a certain point, most trails on BLM or have to cross private land to get to them. Most places people camp are on State Trust. Permits enforced out there, seems random but I have heard of people getting tickets.

Originally posted by jca


Is the camping in a big enough area? My motorhome and trailer is right around 63'?

You can get it back there easy, a little bumpy in a couple spots, but nothing a 2wd rig and trailer can't handle. Just make sure everything is secured for travel. Drunk Pat needs a place to sleep at night anyway!

Originally posted by pmurf1


You can get it back there easy, a little bumpy in a couple spots, but nothing a 2wd rig and trailer can't handle. Just make sure everything is secured for travel. Drunk Pat needs a place to sleep at night anyway! JC, it'll fit. Pat can sleep in my camper, I'll sleep in your house :D :D

cool:D

Just one question - JR, can I park on your bronco?? This will be a "must make it" run...

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Just one question - JR, can I park on your bronco?? This will be a "must make it" run...

eh... sure, I guess. (hmmm). I get my cast off 2 days before it's time to head to AZ. Got to do the repairs to the bronco with a busted leg, which is going to be a bitch :mad:

Originally posted by JR


eh... sure, I guess. (hmmm). I get my cast off 2 days before it's time to head to AZ. Got to do the repairs to the bronco with a busted leg, which is going to be a bitch :mad:

Just point Marilyn in the right direction and start barking orders. Or as we say in AZ, vamanos vato!

Anyone up for the tittie bar?:D

Elf Cruiser's junk will probably break or experience some other odd technical failure well before he has a chance to park on JR's rig.:rolleyes: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Drunk Pat


Jusssssst point Marilyn in the right direction and ssssssstart barking ordersssss. Or asssssssss we say in AZ, vamanos vato!

Anyone up for the tittie bar?:D

Elf Cruiser'sssss junk will probally break or exxxxcccperience sssssome other odd technical failure well before he has a chance to park on JR'sssss rig.:rolleyes: :flipoff2:

Sorry to hear you have a busted leg, does that interfere with playing the French horn? Good thing it only takes one foot to mash the gas pedal...

Hey Pat - as long as you stay out of the vicinity, the Cruiser will be fine...

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Sorry to hear you have a busted leg, does that interfere with playing the French horn? Good thing it only takes one foot to mash the gas pedal...


Getting the horn to the gig is most of the battle. After that it's not a problem, except for having to explain umpteen times how I busted it, man does that get old :rolleyes:

Originally posted by pmurf1

Elf Cruiser's junk will probably break or experience some other odd technical failure well before he has a chance to park on JR's rig.:rolleyes: :flipoff2:

What such as a a screw or some thing like last time:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Okay, who's going? D-Toy? Aaron? Depending on who goes depends on which trailer I need to bring. If D-Toy (class A) drives with my big trailer, we can put two more in my enclosed behind his truck for a total of 6 rigs with only 2 tow vehicles. LET'S GO!

Chris (Azrckrwler), can't wait to wheel some of those trails you aways post pics of. I called you a long time ago when I was in Apache Junction, but I still had a full body on my Zuk. Do you remember? :)

Oh yeah, AZ guys, will any authorities be checking for registration, insurance, or any other legal stuff? Also, the important one, do you think anyone will check for warrants? I really need to know that one, no joking.

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL
Okay, who's going? D-Toy? Aaron? Depending on who goes depends on which trailer I need to bring. If D-Toy (class A) drives with my big trailer, we can put two more in my enclosed behind his truck for a total of 6 rigs with only 2 tow vehicles. LET'S GO!


Chris,

I'm in and was planning on limping my '83 F250 out there solo. I'd love to buck up $ and travel in style :D

d

there are no "authorities" where we will be. If you cruise back into town for dinner, just don't be an asshat, and you'll be fine. Out in the desert, however, we reward asshatedness with free beer!

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Out in the desert, however, we reward asshatedness with free beer!


I sense a startling similarity between the AZ desert and the CA desert ;)

...we have more cactus :flipoff2:

But other than that, yeah - they're pretty much the same...

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Out in the desert, however, we reward asshatedness with free beer!

Elf, I don't think you can bring enough beer. With me, the beer is like a supercharger for asshattedness! :D Sounds like we're gonna have a good time.

Chris

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


Chris,

I'm in and was planning on limping my '83 F250 out there solo. I'd love to buck up $ and travel in style :D

d

You wouldn't happen to have a class A license, would you? If my big trailer doesn't go, your rig must be able to get under 6'3" for the enclosed. I flatten my tires and suck the suspension down with ratchet straps! What is your width? Also, Erik has the first open spot available unless he can't make it. I'll talk to him soon.

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


You wouldn't happen to have a class A license, would you? If my big trailer doesn't go, your rig must be able to get under 6'3" for the enclosed. I flatten my tires and suck the suspension down with ratchet straps! What is your width? Also, Erik has the first open spot available unless he can't make it. I'll talk to him soon.

Chris

No class A :( , I can get under the 6'3" mark pretty easily :) and I'm typical Toy width:confused:

But don't worry ;) I'll talk Michelle into letting Mr. James out for the weekend:flipoff2:

Well, I figure about $250 split 4 ways if we take 6 rigs. Since John and I are taking our trucks and trailers, we shouldn't have to pay! :flipoff2: We can sleep about 10 men in my enclosed, and as many women that we can find! The larger the better, since the floor isn't padded. Hey, when you're in the desert, a kill's a kill!;)

We should leave Apple Valley on Friday at 9 am, which will put us in Phoenix before traffic and in time for a night run. We could leave Sunday at 6 pm and be in Apple Valley just after midnight or so, and still make work on Monday. Or we could all blow off work until Tuesday! I'm down for whateva.

What do you guys think?

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL
Well, I figure about $250 split 4 ways if we take 6 rigs. Since John and I are taking our trucks and trailers, we shouldn't have to pay! :flipoff2: We can sleep about 10 men in my enclosed, and as many women that we can find! The larger the better, since the floor isn't padded. Hey, when you're in the desert, a kill's a kill!;)

We should leave Apple Valley on Friday at 9 am, which will put us in Phoenix before traffic and in time for a night run. We could leave Sunday at 6 pm and be in Apple Valley just after midnight or so, and still make work on Monday. Or we could all blow off work until Tuesday! I'm down for whateva.

What do you guys think?

Chris

I'm cool with the $, you can have as much of your trailer floor as you need:flipoff2: I've already reserved a room at the Hotel JC :D

We can figure the timing out, but I doubt John can get alot or even any time off work. I'm fine for whenever.

d

Originally posted by EMIEVEL
Okay, who's going? D-Toy? Aaron? Depending on who goes depends on which trailer I need to bring. If D-Toy (class A) drives with my big trailer, we can put two more in my enclosed behind his truck for a total of 6 rigs with only 2 tow vehicles. LET'S GO!

Chris (Azrckrwler), can't wait to wheel some of those trails you aways post pics of. I called you a long time ago when I was in Apache Junction, but I still had a full body on my Zuk. Do you remember? :)

Oh yeah, AZ guys, will any authorities be checking for registration, insurance, or any other legal stuff? Also, the important one, do you think anyone will check for warrants? I really need to know that one, no joking.

Chris


I am sure I'll remember you when I see ya. The BTG crew is going to be working over the holidays to prepare something special for you guys ;)

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


We should leave Apple Valley on Friday at 9 am, which will put us in Phoenix before traffic and in time for a night run. We could leave Sunday at 6 pm and be in Apple Valley just after midnight or so, and still make work on Monday. Or we could all blow off work until Tuesday! I'm down for whateva.

What do you guys think?

Chris I'm bailing San Diego at around 10 AM on Friday and meeting up with JC on the I-8. We'll be coming home on Monday morning, it's MLK day.

OK, Michelle said WE ALL can go (Michelle, Luke, and I). Leave Friday, come back on Sunday or Monday.
Someone post up a Map to where we will be camping.

Here's a map for ya. The little red X is an approximate location for the campground. You will take I-10 into phx, then head north on I-17 near downtown. Stay on I-17 all the way out of the north side of town(about 45 minutes) until you get to exit 236, which is Table Mesa Rd. You'll exit there, and turn left over the bridge, then immediately right over a cattle guard. You'll now be headed north along a service Rd. that parallels the hwy. Go until the road turns to dirt, and stay on the dirt road for about a mile. Stay right at the first fork you come to, then go left at the second fork you come to. At that second fork, the road gets pretty bumpy. Continue on for another 3/8 mile or so until you come to a cattle guard at the top of a small hill. When you cross the cattle guard, you'll see the campsite directly in front of you. You can go left or right down the hill, the campsite is in btwn the two dirt roads, and easily accessed from either side. Let me know if that was clear...

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Here's a map for ya. The little red X is an approximate location for the campground. You will take I-10 into phx, then head north on I-17 near downtown. Stay on I-17 all the way out of the north side of town(about 45 minutes) until you get to exit 236, which is Table Mesa Rd. You'll exit there, and turn left over the bridge, then immediately right over a cattle guard. You'll now be headed north along a service Rd. that parallels the hwy. Go until the road turns to dirt, and stay on the dirt road for about a mile. Stay right at the first fork you come to, then go left at the second fork you come to. At that second fork, the road gets pretty bumpy. Continue on for another 3/8 mile or so until you come to a cattle guard at the top of a small hill. When you cross the cattle guard, you'll see the campsite directly in front of you. You can go left or right down the hill, the campsite is in btwn the two dirt roads, and easily accessed from either side. Let me know if that was clear... Don't go all the way into the I-17, take the 101 loop around the west side of Phoenix, to the I-17, then north.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Don't go all the way into the I-17, take the 101 loop around the west side of Phoenix, to the I-17, then north.


Damn AZ guys:mad: , already trying to put us on a bad line:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Pazuzu
I'll be there, we're gonna burn the midnight oil to get the SAS done by then.

You got a mouse in your pocket? Who's this 'we' shit refering to? :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

I have to say, it's about time you fawkers came to OUR desert for a change. I'm getting really damn tired of driving all the way out west to entertain you guys. I know Todd was here before, but he really doesn't count.

:flipoff2:

Wes- Do you know if this trail was ever named? I have some nice video from that still. :D

http://www.wheelingarizona.com/trails/table-mesa/az-otr-2002_2/images/P1010053.jpg

Oh, and if any of you Cali guys have a yota front axle and/or a W56 laying around that you want to deliver this way, let me know please. I know yota parts grow on trees out there, but the cactus out here just won't seem to do it. :D

Originally posted by Erich In AZ



I have to say, it's about time you fawkers came to OUR desert for a change. I'm getting really damn tired of driving all the way out west to entertain you guys. I know Todd was here before, but he really doesn't count.



Oh, and if any of you Cali guys have a yota front axle and/or a W56 laying around that you want to deliver this way, let me know please. I know yota parts grow on trees out there, but the cactus out here just won't seem to do it. :D Bitch, bitch, bitch, then ask for parts :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Yah - I guess taking the 101 would be faster, but I didn't want to confuse you granola-eating hippy commies...:flipoff2:

Erich - That trail is now know as "matrix". I really like that pic, prolly cause I'm standing in between two of the sweetest cruisers ever fabbed...

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Yah - I guess taking the 101 would be faster, but I didn't want to confuse you granola-eating hippy commies...:flipoff2:

Erich - That trail is now know as "matrix". I really like that pic, prolly cause I'm standing in between two of the sweetest cruisers ever fabbed...

I'll have to get you the video! :D

I should have the s.a.s. done then and ready to roll. The trip will give me a chance to break my first Birf. :D

You buggy guys pack your snow gear :D

Jay

Originally posted by azwildyoat
I should have the s.a.s. done then and ready to roll. The trip will give me a chance to break my first Birf. :D

If you do finish your SAS and put some stock birfs in there and then proceed to break one, you will be severely beaten with the stub shaft. Re:todd will then sodomize you with said stub until you learn your Longfield birfield lesson.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by pmurf1


you will be severely beaten with the stub shaft. Re:todd will then sodomize you with said stub until you learn your Longfield birfield lesson.:flipoff2:

Is that how you learned Pat?


:flipoff2:

Originally posted by ROKTOY
You buggy guys pack your snow gear :D

Jay

Ahhm, okay...you serious? No problem, just don't wanna take a bunch of extra crap for nothin!

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


Ahhm, okay...you serious? No problem, just don't wanna take a bunch of extra crap for nothin!

Chris

Ha ha.....naw. Weather's pretty nice these days. Table Mesa is
too low for snow....'cept maybe every 5-10 years a light dusting.
Jay

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Bitch, bitch, bitch, then ask for parts :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Just read this, and... Damn right! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by pmurf1


If you do finish your SAS and put some stock birfs in there and then proceed to break one, you will be severely beaten with the stub shaft. Re:todd will then sodomize you with said stub until you learn your Longfield birfield lesson.:flipoff2:

I have to break at least one Birf so I can pop my Cherry! I'll bring the KY just in case:flipoff2:

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


Is that how you learned Pat?


:flipoff2:
No, he learned by rolling the HMS Murph on flat ground! Then we had to bring in structural engineers to design the rigging to flop it back...I think the charges hit around $20K :flipoff2:

Originally posted by pmurf1
I'll check into the permit thing this week. It tried to buy one at 4Wheelers a couple months ago and they said the state didn't have enough money to print them, let alone enforce them. Mine expired 6 months ago and after hearing that I said F it. Besides most of the wheeling we're doing at table mesa is on BLM land anyway. <SNIP>

Well, you got it about half right.
Has nothing to do with the printing or the money to do the printing. It was to do with who is "legal" to sell State Permits..
The permits are available from the State Building, and on-line.
You can bet your ass they enforce. It's a $500.00 fine for being on (even crossing over) STL without a permit, and people *have* been ticketed in the last few months.
With a sizeable group out that way, you can almost bet that they'll be checking for STL permits.
The Table Mesa trails may be on BLM (as the Florence trails are), but you cross STL to get there.

Doen's matter to me what y'all do, but myself, I'ld rather spend the $500.00 on Jeep mods.


Fred

Well, you got it about half right. etc., etc.

I had been under the impression that Table Mesa was all BLM, and no permit was required?? I know that you have to cross a couple of miles of state land to get to the trails at Florence, and I've seen fish&game cops out there before. I've never seen any official vehicles at Table Mesa, ever.

Where are you getting your info?

You can call 602-364-2753 and leave your name to have 'em send you a permit application.
Jay

Originally posted by Fred Wilson


Well, you got it about half right.
Has nothing to do with the printing or the money to do the printing. It was to do with who is "legal" to sell State Permits..
The permits are available from the State Building, and on-line.
You can bet your ass they enforce. It's a $500.00 fine for being on (even crossing over) STL without a permit, and people *have* been ticketed in the last few months.
With a sizeable group out that way, you can almost bet that they'll be checking for STL permits.
The Table Mesa trails may be on BLM (as the Florence trails are), but you cross STL to get there.

Doen's matter to me what y'all do, but myself, I'ld rather spend the $500.00 on Jeep mods.


Fred

Like I said above, there is a small strip of STL on Raw Deal , near the end, we have no plans of running thru that trail. I have been told the first parking lot is on STL but guess what, there's a BLM sign there. That leaves about 200ft of road from the freeway overpass to the parking lot, that's a public road. You can go here (http://sco.az.gov/website/arizona/viewer.htm) if you want to see for yourself.

Freds right... the first few miles of table mesa are STL, all the way to the first y give or take. But I was under the assumption as long as you dont stop in there you dont need a permit. The camping area and all the trails except raw deal which is :rainbow: are on BLM.

I dunno, I have a permit so Im not worried... just trying to make things clear as mud.:p

Edit: Chris beat me to it, and is probably more right than I am, Im just going off memory from looking at a map 6 months ago...:flipoff2:

Stop with all the permit talk. Our guests don't need to hear all this shit. The only officials out near Table Mesa go to the lake park, which is now a fee area. They go laugh at the rednecks stuck in the mud and make sure you paid the $5.
The area we will be at is all good. Last time I saw Game & Fish out there, they said hi, waved, and kept driving.

We are going to prerun some of the trails this weekend. I think you guys are going to be happy with AZ. Your rigs might not be to happy though. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Fred Wilson

The Table Mesa trails may be on BLM (as the Florence trails are), but you cross STL to get there.Fred

You don't need a permit to drive down the frickin' road :mad:

Why not just get a permit, are they too expensive? Also, as I mentioned above, my buggy doesn't have any papers. Is that going to be any sort of issue? If buying a permit keeps "Johnny Law" off my back, then I don't have a problem! If you AZ local guys (that actually wheel a lot) say nothin ever happens, then I'm okay with that also.

How do the AZ trails compare to Back Door at the Hammers? From the pics, it looks like they are just as fun. Don't answer unless you've wheeled Back Door...and the AZ stuff.

Thanks,
Chris

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler



The BTG crew is going to be working over the holidays to prepare something special for you guys ;)

Remember, if we can still get our junk on the trailer at the end of the weekend...you haven't done your job!!! No pussy trails! Take us places that usually deny you guys...so we can show you how it's done!:D

Okay, see you guys soon. Wish I was going with you this weekend!

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL

How do the AZ trails compare to Back Door at the Hammers? From the pics, it looks like they are just as fun. Don't answer unless you've wheeled Back Door...and the AZ stuff.

Thanks,
Chris

Well, I haven't wheeled back door, but I'm gonna post up anyways. :flipoff2: HERE (http://www.wheelingarizona.com/trails/table-mesa/index.htm) are some pics of Matrix being broke. You should be able to make up your own mind how they compare.

Originally posted by EMIEVEL
If you AZ local guys (that actually wheel a lot) say nothin ever happens, then I'm okay with that also.

How do the AZ trails compare to Back Door at the Hammers? From the pics, it looks like they are just as fun. Don't answer unless you've wheeled Back Door...and the AZ stuff.

Thanks,
Chris

Outlaw style is all good. No papers no worries.

As for Backdoor, I haven't run it. I have however run everything else at Hammers with little trouble. If people can run Backdoor in 4-7 minutes, then IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH. We have a couple trails that are going to blow your mind. You think it doesn't get any better, then around the corner another monster waterfall. Totally badass. We are spoiled living here. And I am not even talking about our secret stuff. Gear up boys.;)

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


Remember, if we can still get our junk on the trailer at the end of the weekend...you haven't done your job!!! No pussy trails! Take us places that usually deny you guys...so we can show you how it's done!:D

Okay, see you guys soon. Wish I was going with you this weekend!

Chris

Oh this is going to be fun. Out of staters go first on every trail:evil:

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler


Oh this is going to be fun. Out of staters go first on every trail:evil:

Just try to keep up Chris! :flipoff2:

JackA, what good is the secret stuff if you always keep it a secret? Back Door can be done in 4 minutes or so, but it can also take a couple of hours! It's all about line choice. When that trail gets finished (Taint), it'll bust your balls for quite a while.

Chris

Originally posted by zags


You don't need a permit to drive down the frickin' road :mad:


You need a STL permit to drive over any State Trust Land.
You need a STL permit to "recreate" on STL, and driving on the dirt roads/trails, on STL, IS recreating.
I don't give a flying rats fart if you believe it or not.
People have been stopped, and ticketed, in the Florence area, just driving on the dirt roads, heading out to the various trails.

I'm not sure how much land in the Table Mesa area is STL. Never looked, don't care (I have a permit. That's the great thing about the $15.00 or $20.00 per year. I don't have to worry, nor care ;) )..
I do know that some of the area around the 'y' in the road, is for sure.

Whether anyone will get stopped out there, I have no clue. Sometimes (at least in the Florence area), the Sheriff's are out in force, other times you go for months and never see them. (The Sheriff tickets more often around the Florence area, then Game and Fish. I'm seldom/rearly up around Table Mesa, as it's a pretty long drive from Tucson, but I do spend a lot of time in the Florence area.

Anway, do as you wish.
I just simply brought up the issue, as no one else had.
I'ld hate to see some of the "out of towners" get possibly blind sided because no one thought enough to tell them :)



Fred

So you are saying I could get a ticket for driving my fully licensed tow rig and trailer down TABLE MESA ROAD? It is a county highway or something. I think you are smokin too much of something.

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


Just try to keep up Chris! :flipoff2:

JackA, what good is the secret stuff if you always keep it a secret? Back Door can be done in 4 minutes or so, but it can also take a couple of hours! It's all about line choice. When that trail gets finished (Taint), it'll bust your balls for quite a while.

Chris

I hate keeping stuff secret, but when hardcore trails like Asylum start getting paved you know there is a problem. I have heard there is now a ton of stacked rocks on Asylum, can't blame newbies for that. Anyway, a 7 minute trail isn't hardcore. We messed around on Matrix today, I like trails with only one line :D

Jacka a little further up the trail. The good news is the big waterfall is dry. The bad news is it's still hard to find any traction.

This is all the further I made it. She was climbing until the front axle caught on a rock. Can't wait to go back.

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


How do the AZ trails compare to Back Door at the Hammers? From the pics, it looks like they are just as fun. Don't answer unless you've wheeled Back Door...and the AZ stuff.

Thanks,
Chris They are just as much fun :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
... Anyway, a 7 minute trail isn't hardcore.

I know what you're saying and I don't think Back Door is too hardcore either, mostly cause I can do it in 4 minutes! But it does have one cool obstacle and a tricky boulder strewn turn, which makes it fun. I'm looking forward to some more challenging stuff though.

Do you ever make it to the Hammers? What about over New Year's weekend?

Chris

So, how big is this group going to be? Hopefully we'll get a few trails in! Maybe we can split the group in two and alternate trails? It's easier to keep two small groups moving rather than one large one.

Who's in?
RE:TODD
JR & wifey
Erik (PurpleNurple)
Dave (JeepRecov...)
DToy & family
Aaron? (IfWifeLetsMe!)
Me
Anyone else?

How many Zona guys?

Chris

We plan on hitting most all the trails. Day and nite runs. The hardest will be like the main dish and the easier stuff will be like dessert. We aren't going to let any ill prepared rigs kill our fun, like the DRM run. These folks can watch.
It's all about the fun factor. We will be good hosts, don't worry.

:D

I should be able to come out.
Probably won't be 'wheelin a whole lot, but should be fun none the less.

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
This is all the further I made it. She was climbing until the front axle caught on a rock. Can't wait to go back.

Hey Chris were these pics recent? I was out there about 2 weeks ago and that waterfall had 3' of water at the bottom. Damn this desert sucks it up. Has anyone tried breaking the next section of 6th day? That looks like it could be a blast.

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler


Hey Chris were these pics recent? I was out there about 2 weeks ago and that waterfall had 3' of water at the bottom. Damn this desert sucks it up. Has anyone tried breaking the next section of 6th day? That looks like it could be a blast.


Those pix are from yesterday. We only went to the first fall to check the water levels. It was empty with just alittle mud. Didn't check the rest.
The upper 6th Day had huge pools of water, 5-10, in the middle of summer. Looks killer though.

Yeah the reat of the trail is dry except the hole below the crack. Somebody filled this hole with rocks which is a bummer, it used to be about 3' deep and full of water, the crack is now full of rocks aswell.:( I just wish people would unstack:confused: . Any way the trail is still bitchn. Would love to throw a snorkel on and go hit upper 6th day;)

bring them on anacoda or anilator or ammorgedon those are alawys good i cant spell worth shit. ill be there but not wheeling just watching

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler


Hey Chris were these pics recent? I was out there about 2 weeks ago and that waterfall had 3' of water at the bottom. Damn this desert sucks it up. Has anyone tried breaking the next section of 6th day? That looks like it could be a blast.

We haven't attempted anything more on the 6th day since last year. I have an idea on how to get around the big water pit that stopped us last year, just have to find some time and some willing people to do some work. I also have a good idea for Matrix : Reloaded ;)

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler
Yeah the reat of the trail is dry except the hole below the crack. Somebody filled this hole with rocks which is a bummer, it used to be about 3' deep and full of water, the crack is now full of rocks aswell.:( I just wish people would unstack:confused: . Any way the trail is still bitchn. Would love to throw a snorkel on and go hit upper 6th day;)

O.K., well the price of admission just included an unstacking party as well. rock stackin' bitches.............

Originally posted by EMIEVEL
So, how big is this group going to be? Hopefully we'll get a few trails in! Maybe we can split the group in two and alternate trails? It's easier to keep two small groups moving rather than one large one.

Who's in?
RE:TODD
JR & wifey
Erik (PurpleNurple)
Dave (JeepRecov...)
DToy & family
Aaron? (IfWifeLetsMe!)
Me
Anyone else?

How many Zona guys?

Chris

We should have 6-7 rigs.
More than enough for the tougher trails.

For some of the others who want to come out, everyone is welcome around the campfire.
Unfortunately, we will have to make the tougher runs invitation only. Otherwise it may interfere with party time. We have a pretty big group already and usually run at a pretty fast pace. So if anyone else wants to run, form your own group and have at it. Please keep your experience and vehicle capabilities mind. We will be running the ususal stuff too, but some of these are not trails for newbs. In our experience, you can add an at least hour for every rig on trails like Matrix.

Originally posted by EMIEVEL
So, how big is this group going to be? Hopefully we'll get a few trails in! Maybe we can split the group in two and alternate trails? It's easier to keep two small groups moving rather than one large one.

Who's in?
RE:TODD
JR & wifey
Erik (PurpleNurple)
Dave (JeepRecov...)
DToy & family
Aaron? (IfWifeLetsMe!)
Me
Anyone else?

How many Zona guys?

Chris


Yep me!! I am caravaning with Todd. See you New Years at the hammers Chris

Originally posted by zags
Unfortunately, we will have to make the tougher runs invitation only.

I know where I belong (and don't belong) during a busy run schedule. I can waste a day on these trails anytime, I'm more than willing to let the out of towners have their fun without having to wait for me & my overgrown pig. :D

Honestly, I just really wanna see the Tin Bender/BTG micky bomb competitons at camp :flipoff2:

Originally posted by AZFord4x4


I know where I belong (and don't belong) during a busy run schedule. I can waste a day on these trails anytime, I'm more than willing to let the out of towners have their fun without having to wait for me & my overgrown pig. :D

Honestly, I just really wanna see the Tin Bender/BTG micky bomb competitons at camp :flipoff2:

I get a kick out of how well you can wheel that big pig on those tight trails. That thing would kick ass at the Hammers.

Originally posted by zags


I get a kick out of how well you can wheel that big pig on those tight trails. That thing would kick ass at the Hammers.

awwwwwwwwwww... yer makin me feel all warm & fuzzy inside Larry...








































oh, wait... it's 5:30 in the morning, that must be the :beer: (night shift is hell I tell ya :flipoff2: )

& yea, hammers is on my list whenever funds are there. Someday....

Well, I had a tough weekend! I broke a knuckle, bent both shackles, broke the header, both motor mounts, and the trans mount. The t-case mount didn't break though, but the t-case broke out of it's mount! The only thing keeping it from rotating was the shift lever! It has a hole in the t-case about the size of a baseball. Oh yeah, it needs a hood, radiator, fan, air cleaner, and a couple of rims! I don't know if it was the first roll that did it or the fourth one half way up the waterfall on Backdoor! Anyway, with a little luck and Erik's work schedule, we might make it to AZ.

Chris

Good luck getting it back together. I think you guys are going to love it if you make it out here. I have wheeled 5 of the last 7 days. It is nice to be back after a 6 month break. :D

Originally posted by JackA
Good luck getting it back together. I think you guys are going to love it if you make it out here. I have wheeled 5 of the last 7 days. It is nice to be back after a 6 month break. :D

what do you do for a livin' that ya have all that time to wheel?:confused:

some guy from SETI is looking for the owner of this.....

Hey Mat we should bring the pigs out for this run

Originally posted by Scot J


what do you do for a livin' that ya have all that time to wheel?:confused:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most jobs give you days off for the holidays? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by dogbender
Hey Mat we should bring the pigs out for this run

I'll be there, already took Friday off work.

Originally posted by dogbender
some guy from SETI is looking for the owner of this.....


What's SETI?

Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence. Your rims look like flying saucers, G -

Well - I rolled the living shit outta the cruiser today. Gonna try to have it back in action before the run, but it looks grim...

Well, I made it through the week at the hammers without turning a wrench:eek: :flipoff2: , some minor tweaks to the new front end and I'll be ready for AZ. :D

See you guys out there.


d

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam
Well, I made it through the week at the hammers without turning a wrench:eek: :flipoff2: , some minor tweaks to the new front end and I'll be ready for AZ. :D

See you guys out there.


d

new front end?:confused:

Originally posted by Scot J


new front end?:confused:

Just some sawzall and wiring work :D

Originally posted by elf_cruiser

Well - I rolled the living shit outta the cruiser today. Gonna try to have it back in action before the run, but it looks grim...

How do you roll something with 12' wide axles? :eek:




:D

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


Just some sawzall and wiring work :D

What am I missing? I don't see anything wrong with it....
I thought everyone who hung out with the Tin Benders had Mangled Shit...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by yldkat


What am I missing? I don't see anything wrong with it....
I thought everyone who hung out with the Tin Benders had Mangled Shit...:flipoff2:

:flipoff2:


Little stuff like wiring held by zip ties around tubes that might come in contact with rocks occasionally :rolleyes:

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


Just some sawzall and wiring work :D

gotcha, thought ya were talking bout 60's or somethin:flipoff2:

Okay, I just got off the phone with the State Land Department. They said out of state people are okay as long as they have some photo id, license or whatever. No permit required.
I have been wheeling alot lately in this area and have only see one cop. He was headed towards the lake, aways from our camp spot. I passed them in the opposite direction while bajaing down the road. They waved. It's all good.:D

When you guys arrive Friday, we can go run some of the short trails. They may be short but power packed. You'll dig it.

Originally posted by JackA
Okay, I just got off the phone with the State Land Department. They said out of state people are okay as long as they have some photo id, license or whatever. No permit required.
Thanks Jack, see you in a couple of Fridays. We're bringing the whole garage so we'll be safe :D :D

Originally posted by JackA


When you guys arrive Friday, we can go run some of the short trails. They may be short but power packed. You'll dig it.

Who's off on Friday? If Chris is no longer going to be doing the transporting, I would probably be up for a Thursday night arrival, leaving more time to wheel on Friday.

d

We could meet up on Thursday nite. Lemme know.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
I plan on leaving SD, mid-morning on Friday, coming home on Monday morning.

This is my plan. I thought I could leave earlier but it's not going to work out. Mar might have been scared off of this trip, so it might be just me... and my barely heeled leg. The leg thing might be a problem because, as you know, a lot of shit needs to be moved around to put a trip together.
Could be there by supper time and maybe, if anyone's up for it, a small night run on Friday.

Originally posted by JR


This is my plan. I thought I could leave earlier but it's not going to work out. Mar might have been scared off of this trip, so it might be just me... and my barely heeled leg. The leg thing might be a problem because, as you know, a lot of shit needs to be moved around to put a trip together.
Could be there by supper time and maybe, if anyone's up for it, a small night run on Friday. JR, "Boy" will be with me, so anything you need, tell him to do it. He just said he'd gladly do it (little drive in the Bronco might be in order). As far as trails, the AZ boys are going to hook us up big time, all weekend :D :D :D . Lunch, dinner, breakfast, midnight Jack Daniels, they'll make us wheel it all :D :D

OK - no way I'll be wheeling by then. The cruiser is at RPM Machine for a major overhaul, and PIG is 2 weeks out on the new 16" Fox air shox. Maybe I'll come up for some partying and a ride-along or something...

ain't gonna make it - my "new to me" tow rig is gonna be getting a rebuilt 4L80E tranny installed that weekend. :mad:

I may be able to get there early too

Sounds like one hell of a time. I might swing up that way and say 'Howdy"

I can leave on Thursday when I wake up (around noon) but I do not think Todd can and I was going to follow him so that no one is travling alone if they do not have too. We will see as the time gets closer.

turns out this is the same weekend as NAMM (music conference thing in LA), and i'm expected to be there with my boss's. :mad:

oh well, at least i'll be playing with cool new gadgets.

Originally posted by penguinofdoom
turns out this is the same weekend as NAMM (music conference thing in LA), and i'm expected to be there with my boss's. :mad:

oh well, at least i'll be playing with cool new gadgets.

Iv'e been a couple times. Lots of babes hang out where the guitar rockers are, but I didn't see many since I was in the brass section :rolleyes:

Well, it's not looking good on our end of things. SCHOOL BLOWS!
:crybaby2:

Originally posted by ThePurpleNerple
Well, it's not looking good on our end of things. SCHOOL BLOWS!
:crybaby2:

Erik, I don't care if we are there for only one day...I've driven much farther to get laid, and that only lasted 3 or 4 hours!:D

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


...I've driven much farther to get laid, and that only lasted 3 or 4 minutes !:D

Chris

fixed it :flipoff2: :D

Originally posted by Aaronn


fixed it :flipoff2: :D

Oh yeah..that was including the drive!:flipoff2:

Chris

Are there any plans being made for a pussy run as well? There's only so much sitting on rocks watching Jack try to steer before it gets boring :p

I dunno if my rig will be rock-ready by then, but it *might* be...

Originally posted by Pazuzu
Are there any plans being made for a pussy run as well? There's only so much sitting on rocks watching Jack try to steer before it gets boring :p

I dunno if my rig will be rock-ready by then, but it *might* be...

I didn't know we had to plan for that kind of run, I just thought it was a given! If not, maybe some of the Benders' wives can bring some friendlies.
When I used to stay in Pheonix for a race, my buddies wife worked at a club off Deer Springs Road exit. Is that close to where we'll be? :) She is very friendly (did I mention VERY?), and she has plenty of co-workers who are even friendlier :D . I wouldn't mind stopping by!

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


I didn't know we had to plan for that kind of run, I just thought it was a given! If not, maybe some of the Benders' wives can bring some friendlies.
When I used to stay in Pheonix for a race, my buddies wife worked at a club off Deer Springs Road exit. Is that close to where we'll be? :) She is very friendly (did I mention VERY?), and she has plenty of co-workers who are even friendlier :D . I wouldn't mind stopping by!

Chris

You are fawkin insane:eek: Paz is talking about an SUV run for his 2 wheel drive IFS POS. :laughing:


By the way, you say that club is on Deer Springs:cool:

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


You are fawkin insane:eek: Paz is talking about an SUV run for his 2 wheel drive IFS POS. :laughing:


By the way, you say that club is on Deer Springs:cool:

Pmurf1 would be the one to see about the :girly: clubs, he also does a great "Lady's Man" impression..........

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


You are fawkin insane:eek: Paz is talking about an SUV run for his 2 wheel drive IFS POS. :laughing:


:flipoff2: I might be in 2wd if I don't get a front driveshaft worked out by then :eek:

Anyone that wants to run easy stuff can go for it. The BTG crew will be busy showing the Benders all the right stuff.
As for the club, if you are talking about the one on Deer Valley we're in business. They remodeled just recently and I happen to have some free passes too. Oh ya, my house is about 10 minutes away. The place we're camping at is about 20 minutes away.;)

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler


Pmurf1 would be the one to see about the :rainbow: clubs, he also does a great "Lady's Man" impression.......... He always knew there was something weird about him :D :D :D

Originally posted by JackA
Anyone that wants to run easy stuff can go for it. The BTG crew will be busy showing the Benders all the right stuff.
As for the club, if you are talking about the one on Deer Valley we're in business. They remodeled just recently and I happen to have some free passes too. Oh ya, my house is about 10 minutes away. The place we're camping at is about 20 minutes away.;)

ixnay on the talkay of the strippersay:flipoff2:


On the off chance that my loving wife would get the wrong impression of why I want to come to AZ (2 days early) :D


d

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


ixnay on the talkay of the strippersay:flipoff2:


On the off chance that my loving wife would get the wrong impression of why I want to come to AZ (2 days early) :D


d

Dave, bring her along. It's usually a much better show at the clubs if you bring a girl anyway! Let's all go get some stank on our hang-lows!

Don't sleep on your belly Todd. Of course you have been a semen, oops I mean a seaman for a while though.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by pmurf1


Dave, bring her along. It's usually a much better show at the clubs if you bring a girl anyway!

That's my point, she'd more pissed that I was going without her, then going at all :D

Reminds of the time she took me to a private club in Mexico City:eek:

What is the name of the area we are going to (name of the camp)? I might have someone that is going to bring some tires out for me to bring back to someone here. So I just need to tell him where I will be.

Damn it's some beautiful camping weather coming up this weekend...

Thu
Jan 15 Partly Cloudy 74°/42° 20 %
Fri
Jan 16 Mostly Cloudy 72°/43° 10 %
Sat
Jan 17 Sunny 71°/42° 20 %
Sun
Jan 18 Sunny 70°/42° 20 %

Originally posted by jca
What is the name of the area we are going to (name of the camp)? I might have someone that is going to bring some tires out for me to bring back to someone here. So I just need to tell him where I will be.

Table Mesa Road... if they wheel, they should know where that is...
after that it's easy to get to the camp... up the road to the 2nd "Y", make a left, after the cattleguard if you miss camp you're blind.

Originally posted by AZFord4x4


Table Mesa Road... if they wheel, they should know where that is...
after that it's easy to get to the camp... up the road to the 2nd "Y", make a left, after the cattleguard if you miss camp you're blind.


Thanks:D

Anyone know if Chris (EMIEVIL) is going or not??

I just may have to come out & watch.. You guys sound even crazier than me:flipoff2:

Originally posted by AZFord4x4


Table Mesa Road... if they wheel, they should know where that is...
after that it's easy to get to the camp... up the road to the 2nd "Y", make a left, after the cattleguard if you miss camp you're blind.

Whats the trail run plan for saturday or sunday?
Times?

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ


Whats the trail run plan for saturday or sunday?
Times?

You actually planning on taking your junk out for some real wheeling? :confused: :eek: Now THIS is an rare event indeed! :D

:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Erich In AZ


You actually planning on taking your junk out for some real wheeling? :confused: :eek: Now THIS is an rare event indeed! :D

:flipoff2:

It really only needs the steering cooler and a muffler then it should be ready for the highway drive.

Well some hrs of cage finish welding couldent hurt.

I dive it out of the garage to take pics....:flipoff2:

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ


Whats the trail run plan for saturday or sunday?
Times?


Your kidding right? Times and plans? We will be running everything, all the time, all weekend long.:D

Originally posted by JackA



Your kidding right? Times and plans? We will be running everything, all the time, all weekend long as hangovers allow.:D

Fixed it!

:D

Originally posted by JackA



Your kidding right? Times and plans? We will be running everything, all the time, all weekend long.:D

Eggcellent, I was getting worried with all the this talk of planning shit.


Question, how close are the gas stations... and how far are we bombing to get to the trails?

Basically is a stock yota tank and an extra 5 gallons enough to run on and still make things go:nuke:?


d

One less watcher to go I Can't make it now ride.




Have fun get alot of pics especially the club picks :D

Dave,
A full tank of gas and 5 extra should be plenty for a weekend assuming your junk is running halfway right. We'll have extra gas for stuff. There's a gas station and civilization about 5 miles away, so no worries.

Fawk...........Is it Friday yet...........this is the slowest damn week..:D:flipoff2:

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam
Fawk...........Is it Friday yet...........this is the slowest damn week..:D:flipoff2:

My week is flying by, but I blame that in Paz.

:D

I can't wait to get out of town. I should be getting the 14'x14' (with an add-on 4'x4' shithouse) from UPS on thursday, so I will hopefully get to try it out this weekend. I still need to fix my rear spring bushings, look at my front brakes, pack, wash my sleeping bags and get the Hotrod 4runner the hell out of my driveway before the weekend.


That should keep me busy. :D

Nothing like inventing some artificial pressure when things are slow to make time fly by :D


The weekend before New Years, I chopped the front off. Tonight, Dan Bell and I pulled the gas tank (leaking) out and built some little spring hanger ramps and tomorrow we'll be remounting the gas tank up on the mini flat bed in the back ;)

I'll post pics tomorrow night.

d

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Here's a map for ya. The little red X is an approximate location for the campground. You will take I-10 into phx, then head north on I-17 near downtown. Stay on I-17 all the way out of the north side of town(about 45 minutes) until you get to exit 236, which is Table Mesa Rd. You'll exit there, and turn left over the bridge, then immediately right over a cattle guard. You'll now be headed north along a service Rd. that parallels the hwy. Go until the road turns to dirt, and stay on the dirt road for about a mile. Stay right at the first fork you come to, then go left at the second fork you come to. At that second fork, the road gets pretty bumpy. Continue on for another 3/8 mile or so until you come to a cattle guard at the top of a small hill. When you cross the cattle guard, you'll see the campsite directly in front of you. You can go left or right down the hill, the campsite is in btwn the two dirt roads, and easily accessed from either side. Let me know if that was clear...

We plan to be at this location around 6pm on Friday. If this isn't the meetin place, let me know.
Is there cell service?

from what I've seen, cell service can be a bit spotty, but it's there. Mine doesn't have service out there though (POS in town only crap)
I probably won't be out till mid afternoon, so I'll probably be floating around up by camp or closer to I17 around that time & I'll keep my eyes open. My rig is hard to confuse with any other, so start blowing the horn or something if you see me. If you got a CB in the tow rig I'm usually on 4 or 10... most likely 4 if I havn't found anyone yet.

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam
Nothing like inventing some artificial pressure when things are slow to make time fly by :D


The weekend before New Years, I chopped the front off. Tonight, Dan Bell and I pulled the gas tank (leaking) out and built some little spring hanger ramps and tomorrow we'll be remounting the gas tank up on the mini flat bed in the back ;)

I'll post pics tomorrow night.

d

I was thankful this week was going by slowly but I just noticed it's Wed already. Hopefully everything goes back together smoothly. I am aiming for Sat morning.

Originally posted by JR


We plan to be at this location around 6pm on Friday. If this isn't the meetin place, let me know.
Is there cell service? That's it, we'll probably be in an hour behind you.

hey BTG, how are we set up for firewood? I have some big chunks of a tree I'll bring, and check for pallets at work. Anyone else bringing any?

Originally posted by zags
hey BTG, how are we set up for firewood? I have some big chunks of a tree I'll bring, and check for pallets at work. Anyone else bringing any?

I'll bring some, they just bisquited another 20 cords up the street from my house.


d

Originally posted by zags
hey BTG, how are we set up for firewood? I have some big chunks of a tree I'll bring, and check for pallets at work. Anyone else bringing any?

I kinda decimated the supply here at work, I might have one or two left but it won't be a truckload like the last two times.

I'll be bringing some and maybe a little magnesium.....

ill bring some pallets sat nite ill be there around 10ish pm

I still have 2-3 longbeds full of wood in my private stash. I'll bring a load out Friday night. If any of the Kali dorks need any help, you can call me at 602-628-6765. Most cells work at the campsite, most of the road out too. I should be out there about 7-8, ready for a night run/runs.

Originally posted by desertoy
Anyone know if Chris (EMIEVIL) is going or not??

Hey John, me and Erik will be there!

We just drove through 15 states in 5 days! LA to NYC and back in 120 hours...the longest we stopped was 4 hours in St. Louis for dinner and showers.

We have a full day's work on the buggies tomorrow, but we'll get it done. I plan on leaving at 9am on Friday, is that good for you?

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


Hey John, me and Erik will be there!

We just drove through 15 states in 5 days! LA to NYC and back in 120 hours...the longest we stopped was 4 hours in St. Louis for dinner and showers.

We have a full day's work on the buggies tomorrow, but we'll get it done. I plan on leaving at 9am on Friday, is that good for you?

Chris :cool: the San Diego contingent will be a couple of hours behind you.

trailer is loaded...leaving for apple valley(layover :D ) by noon :D

Well, the wife just dropped a bomb on me, and there is no way I'm going to be able to make it. Fuck!

I guess I'll see you at TDS (I hope) :(

Originally posted by Erich In AZ
Well, the wife just dropped a bomb on me, and there is no way I'm going to be able to make it. Fuck!

I guess I'll see you at TDS (I hope) :(

That sucks, I just stripped out the back seat of the runner to prepare it to haul both of our fat asses around:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Erich In AZ
Well, the wife just dropped a bomb on me, and there is no way I'm going to be able to make it. Fuck!

I guess I'll see you at TDS (I hope) :(

THAT SUCKS...

Are any Wheeling Arizona guys going with me?

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ


THAT SUCKS...

Are any Wheeling Arizona guys going with me?

You AZ guys are scared of the Cali Coalition, are you?:flipoff2:

Hope to see you ALL there.

Chris

Originally posted by EMIEVEL

I plan on leaving at 9am on Friday, is that good for you?


whadeaneed :D

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ


THAT SUCKS...

Are any Wheeling Arizona guys going with me?

I think CamoToy is still planning on it.

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


You AZ guys are scared of the Cali Coalition, are you?:flipoff2:

Hope to see you ALL there.

Chris


I'll be there waiting for you guys. I will even put signs up to lead ya to camp.;)


BRING IT

Originally posted by JackA



I'll be there waiting for you guys. I will even put signs up to lead ya to camp.;)


BRING IT

Is there a CB channel you will be on?

Ill be driving the "ASHMAN"

Dave,
http://www.wheelingarizona.com/forums/download.php?id=1464

Right now is a shitty time to be in the middle of a buggy project..
:(
I might stop in to say hi or something on Friday Night.

I'll be there. Maybe Friday night but Definitely Sat and Sun.

Everything is loaded (I think???). I am going to get up and on the road about 8:45 am. I am going o climb all the grades heading towars the dez and then stop and wait for Re:Todd at the brake check before the down hill to the dez. Dont know how to get there or how long it takes ( Todd doooo) see everyone friday eve!!!!!:D

Should be there Sat. am.
Jay

Skinny was right last weekend when he said in his hillbilly accent "Goddamm your drivetrain moves a lot". Chained down my previously broken and worn out passenger engine mount and found all 4 bolts on the tranny crossmember gone. Good to go thanks to a little tap work and Coors light. And I though my clutch was just taking a shit.

See you bitches Friday night.

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ


THAT SUCKS...

Are any Wheeling Arizona guys going with me?

I'll be there (hey, I got like 3 posts on WA.com :D )

I'll be on CB channel 4 unless someone says a different one before I leave tomorrow morning.

I'll be down about 8:30 AM Sat.


after watching for a while, prolly run Predator or somethin?

Originally posted by pmurf1
Chained down my previously broken and worn out passenger engine mount and found all 4 bolts on the tranny crossmember gone.

Ahh....that makes some sense now. Felt kinda shaky fer a while....
Jay

Leaving work in a half hour, on the road shortly after that. BTG, see ya this evening :D :D :D

Originally posted by crawler#976
I'll be down about 8:30 AM Sat.


after watching for a while, prolly run Predator or somethin?

sounds good to me. I wanna watch these crazy fawkers for a while, but I know I won't be 'wheelin much with them, & I'll have to drive over something. :D

Ill prolly be comming up sat around noon.. May wheel a bit, may not.:flipoff2:

I'll be up Sat morning...We just got done with Mark M's buggy 11:00 pm!!! Camcorder ready for some carnage pics tomorrow & Sunday!!!

Pics from the run...
http://www.wildyoats.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=27801#post27801