: full hydro steering- what to do about the pump on an 800?


robselina
12-26-2003, 09:52 PM
Okay, building an 800 up. It's got a travelall D44 going in up front and I want to ditch the stock manual steering. I was going to adapt a power steering pump and box off of a Jeep, but decided it isn't worth it. Stock PS stucks on rocks anyway, so I'm just going to get a ram and orbital valve (excuse me - "hydrostatic steering unit") and go that route for full hydro. Not like it's ever going to cruise the freeway anyway :D

So, I need to mount up a pump on the 196 to drive the ram. Anybody know of a source for the stock PS brackets -aside from a junkyard of course? Anybody fab one up and have drawings/part #s/etc? What about something else that will bolt in? (or will with a little fabrication) Would using the stock PS pump and bracket provide enough pressure/flow? Should I pursue another avenue in terms of pumps etc?

Reason I ask is that it seems the Saginaw P type pumps are a beefier/beeter unit and I'm wondering if anyone ever put on on a 196. The engine runs pretty sweet and for the time being, I don't want to swap it out so don't even start with the smart ass V8 comments okay? :flipoff2:

tsm1mt
12-27-2003, 09:03 AM
Stock SII 196 p/s bracket..

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/faq/jpg/196ps/196ps00.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/faq/jpg/196ps/196ps01.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/faq/jpg/196ps/196ps02.jpg

It had a Saginaw "teardrop" pump on it.

Nothing too complicated..

larryboy
12-27-2003, 09:19 AM
i just read through billavistas' tech article yesterday,if you need more info than that...:rolleyes: ;) .

link http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-Hydro_Steering/index3.html

pump that billa used

http://web.ivenue.com/krcpower/images/50010.jpg

and a link to the pump people http://www.krcpower.com/item295811.ctlg

robselina
12-27-2003, 12:07 PM
I read most of belavista's article last night before posting. Great stuff. I think I have it figured out for the most part....

tsm1mt- thanks for the pictures. still got that bracket? I may bug you for some dimensions. want to sell it if you do?

tsm1mt
12-27-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by robselina
I read most of belavista's article last night before posting. Great stuff. I think I have it figured out for the most part....

tsm1mt- thanks for the pictures. still got that bracket? I may bug you for some dimensions. want to sell it if you do?

I sold the motor to another Scout racer in Shelby.

I never did get around to taking measurements n' such like I had planned to..

binderbound
12-30-2003, 07:58 PM
I have a 196 bracket but it looks totally different from that pic. Its got holes machined in it but no wish bone type bracket like in the pic. Tom, know what I mean? No its not for sale.