: Homebrew spraycan paintjob prep Q


BillaVista
12-22-2001, 02:32 PM
When spraybomb painting your rig,

What surface prep do you do to the original paint?

Wet or dry sand? - what grit?

Pook
12-22-2001, 02:40 PM
scocth brite pad , they come in different grits if you don't care about sand lines go with 100 an dit'll stick real good, if no like to sand lines go 100 then use a 250 grit and so on until its good for you.:beer:

NE-RokToy
12-22-2001, 02:53 PM
what kind of sander do you use? I've seen people use hand held electric DA or orbital sanders, unfortunatly i don't have an air supply :-(

DCruiser138
12-22-2001, 03:19 PM
i just dry sanded with a square vibrator sander w/ 250 grit. i sanded all down..primered and rattled the fawk out of it!:p :D

NE-RokToy
12-22-2001, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by DCruiser138
i just dry sanded with a square vibrator sander w/ 250 grit. i sanded all down..primered and rattled the fawk out of it!:p :D

Cool thats what I planned to do, well plan to do it another 4-5 months when its actually warm enough to think about painting

Pook
12-22-2001, 04:35 PM
with ascotch brite pad you don't need a sander just rub her down its quick and easy

truckdweld
12-22-2001, 05:28 PM
I agree with pook. Just scotch brite it and call it good. I have used the red/maroon colored pad for many paint jobs and they have worked great.

Grim Reaper
12-22-2001, 05:40 PM
:beer: :beer: :beer: Then sand for about 30 seconds :beer: then sand a little while then :beer: and so on. after about 12 beers it will be ready for painting. so have :beer: :beer: then start painting. Drink :beer: between every can. Just as you pass out on the floor next to the truck you will think it's the best looking paint job you have ever seen. Then you will wake up the next morning and figure out it looks pretty crappy and take to Eral Shibe for the $250 ambasador paint job that will flak off after about a year becuse it won't stick to rattle can paint.

mud-magnet
12-22-2001, 07:04 PM
i just primed it with the brush on paint, then just gave it a REALY LIGHT sanding, then out came the spray cans.......took 4 cans, but it was a convertible samurai, not much to paint at all.....
what color are you going bill? the same goldish color as it is now?

yjtj
12-22-2001, 07:18 PM
i just used scuff pads that i aquired from work, and the paint has lasted 2 years so far

BillaVista
12-22-2001, 07:39 PM
what color are you going bill? the same goldish color as it is now?

Good lord no - I hate that colour!

I'm still swaying between OD Green, Tremclad or John Deer Yellow with black hihjlights, or just plain Tremclad black.

I flip flop daily - luckily, like NE said - it's gonna be a few months till it's warm enough!

Looks like Scotch pad and :beer: is the trick. Oh wait a minute....I quit drinking. Hmm, maybe I can just :smokin: ........nope - the Government dont look too kindly on that. I know - maybe if I just spray in a really confined poorly ventilated space :D

Thanks for the tips - and I'm open to colour suggestions

Charly
12-23-2001, 11:12 AM
OK Bill wtf is Tremclad?

RHINO
12-23-2001, 11:46 AM
like the others have said, i just used scotch pads on the good paint to ruff it up a bit, on the bad areas where there was some flaking i used a random orbit electric sander with varying grit pads to feather into the good paint. then i cleaned it well and sprayed away. its held up well, just a little sun fading.

Rockcrusher
12-23-2001, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by BillaVista


. . . I'm still swaying between OD Green . . .

Uh, er, does OD mean Over Dirt?

mud-magnet
12-23-2001, 01:26 PM
i'd say go with the Olive Drab stuff, that'll look sweet on a xj.......:D or you could always mix all those colors together and do a fawked up camo color.....:flipoff2: ......

GRMhick
12-23-2001, 01:47 PM
I went over my whole truck with wax and grease remover from the local paint store first, just to make sure all the crap was off before I scotch-padded the old paint. WOrked good. ANd for an /extra $11 it wasent bad, expecally since i did orignally have problems with the paint wrinkling from too much wax on the truck. BTW I used Krylon Farm Impliment John Deere and Case green. Looks good, just needs ot be finished.

Grim Reaper
12-23-2001, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by BillaVista




Looks like Scotch pad and :beer: is the trick. Oh wait a minute....I quit drinking. Hmm, maybe I can just :smokin: ........nope - the Government dont look too kindly on that. I know - maybe if I just spray in a really confined poorly ventilated space :D

Thanks for the tips - and I'm open to colour suggestions
There you go!
hahaha
Well I did Krylon Kacki on mine. Pretty happy with it. Hides mud real well. Easy to touch up. There is a link in my sig with plenty of pictures. I just ligt sanded to get any shine off the original paint and shot. One thing to warn you about is if you have bare metal and put the flat paint on it that you may get rust. seems the flat paints are not rust stopping. The next problem is the crinkle when shot over other paints. Best advice is stay same brand put down some rust preventing paint on any bare metal and let dry for several day's. Then several VERY light coats of the flat camo paints. That is if you go that route.

BillaVista
12-23-2001, 02:35 PM
OK Bill wtf is Tremclad?

It's the local "available everywhere" rust paint, available in lots of colours.

It's not anything special, about $5 and change Cdn per can. I can't think of the name of the same thing you guys have...maybe the Krylon?


Good tip about the wax and grease remover first...I'll do that

Macgyver
12-24-2001, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by PW
I went over my whole truck with wax and grease remover from the local paint store first, just to make sure all the crap was off before I scotch-padded the old paint. WOrked good. ANd for an /extra $11 it wasent bad, expecally since i did orignally have problems with the paint wrinkling from too much wax on the truck. .

actually if you wet sand with some dishwashing detergent in the bucket (use a bucket, not running water) it will cut all the old wax and will take care of the oil and fingerprints. you can wet sand with a scotchbrite also. have been using this method for about 8 years, no problems yet.....oh yeah, you do have to rinse it though

James K
12-24-2001, 02:28 PM
I just used some 320 grit on my porter cable orbit sander (electric). I used the one quart cans and ran them through my HVLP spray gun. Turned out great.

GloNDark
12-24-2001, 04:57 PM
We got all loaded on :beer:, roughed her up with a BBQ brush, put down a crappy coat of white primer, and then sprayed the orange......:rasta:

xextr3m3
12-24-2001, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by BillaVista


It's not anything special, about $5 and change Cdn per can. I can't think of the name of the same thing you guys have...maybe the Krylon?



Rustoluem? (sp?)

Victor
05-10-2002, 04:00 PM
I got the urge to paint, but got lazy with the sanding. Just sprayed OSH green primer, and OSH black primer for trim. Actually came out pretty good. If I get and thin spots I'll just hit it again with the same stuff. Cost $1.98 a can and I used 5 cans of green and one of black http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lonely_web_troll/vwp?.dir=/pics&.dnm=paintjob.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

Monkeyboy
05-10-2002, 05:18 PM
The only prep I ever did was drink a 6 pack before I rattle canned my junk.

http://ajax.extremejeep.com/rocktoad/chiajeep3.jpg

Oh yah I also used OSH green Prmer :D

bigfoot
05-10-2002, 05:56 PM
Did you run out of masking tape?:shaking:

mud-magnet
05-10-2002, 05:59 PM
not sure why this post got brought back but...............

look bill, it looks just like your xj.......before the swampers and flairs........:D

Toytank
05-10-2002, 06:24 PM
Take it down to the metal and use some good primer I just did my hood that way and it made a hell of a difference but I had to take off 8 layers of paint first and that was alot of work.

:beer: :D :usa: :D :beer:

Peabody
05-10-2002, 06:49 PM
I totally disagree with Victor. From what I understand about paint (not a whole lot) and what I have seen, you don't want to just shoot a primer and leave it.
Victor
I got the urge to paint, but got lazy with the sanding. Just sprayed OSH green primer, and OSH black primer for trim. Actually came out pretty good. If I get and thin spots I'll just hit it again with the same stuff. Cost $1.98 a can and I used 5 cans of green and one of

Primer doesn't protect the metal, it just gives the paint something to stick to. You will get little to no rust protection from a primer alone. At least that's what I've heard from the local paint guru's.

HighToy
05-10-2002, 06:56 PM
Primer will actually cause rust faster because it absorbs and retains water. If you do sand down to metal you will want to use a rust preventative primer then use a flat paint. Or use a gloss and let it cure for a day in the sun then spray over with flat. The paint will last for years this way and you won't have to worry about rust.

I'll be doing my truck this way but using CalTrans Orange.

Victor
05-10-2002, 07:10 PM
I'm no expert, peabody. I think it depends on what is underneath. I didn't sand anything down so I already have the original paint to protect from rust. There was no rust underneath the primer on my rig to worry about so it was just for looks. If you want to do it right, don't listen to me.