overall I like Pirate...and yea I am new around here. There is good info in nearly all areas of the forums, some more than others. Yet, I am a Nissan guy and this Nissan forum is lacking. Not only is there not many posts, less are interesting and informative. Don't get me wrong there are some good posts here for Nissans but overall it lacks.

So whats the deal?? What needs to happen to get more of the Nissan owners out there posting here?? There is a ton in the USA doing all kinds of things with trucks over a 40+ year span. There is also huge numbers of owners all over the world doing the same thing. Seems like there is just a few active here. :(

Is it the fear of being flamed that makes us Nissan owners not post here?? Come on'...who cares what they say, we own Nissans and know what is up! ;)

Well, the truth is, after reading and posting on 4x4parts.com, nissanoffroad.net, nissanfrontier.net, xterraownersclub.com, and nissan4wheelers.com, there is not much left to say when I finally make it to P4x4. All the topics get beat to death 10 times over reading from board to board anyway.

It seems to me that most all the same guys post on those other boards so there really is not anyone new to talk to over here.

And yes, the attitude of P4x4 in general is sometimes a little pathetic for the "adults" that are supposedly posting here. Not to say it is great everywhere else either. Good boards are hard to find. I like the variety found on P4x4, and the traffic is great for the classifieds IMO.

there aren't many posts because all of the threads accidentally got deleted a little while back.

I mainly come to the site for the Isuzu board cuz it's the only place I've found with people who know anything about the old Izzys. I have a dropped and severly modified Frontier and a dropped Ram so I read those boards too. I don't really post much. I just read posts and soaking up information. If you have a question about lowering a Nissan I'll be posting like a mad fool. LOL

I like hard core tech stuff. I love to see stripped down trucks, cut metal, fabricated parts, etc. Bolt-on stuff doesn't excite me. Pirate seems to be where a lot of the hard core guys are at.

Consider the fact that this board is aimed at hard core off roaders, and you will answer your own question. There just arn't many hardcore Nissan wheelers around. Here, if you don't at least have a sas planed, you have a mall wheeler, so no need asking for help, or posting stuff about 31" BFG's or ifs lift kits. That is why there arn't many folks posting here, but many (like me) read alot and post alittle. ;)

And to continue TRed's comments. Once you decide to go hardcore with a Nissan you HAVE to walk away from Nissan to get the parts....Toy, Dana, Unimog....There just aren't any "easily" available Nissan axles that can handle big tires.......So to be quite honest....once you get to the level of wheeling that is "normal" for this board, your Nissan will be more non-nissan than nissan.

Sad but true...:(

Originally posted by unissamog
And to continue TRed's comments. Once you decide to go hardcore with a Nissan you HAVE to walk away from Nissan to get the parts....Toy, Dana, Unimog....There just aren't any "easily" available Nissan axles that can handle big tires.......So to be quite honest....once you get to the level of wheeling that is "normal" for this board, your Nissan will be more non-nissan than nissan.

ALL, well not really MOST, hadcore 4x4 in Spain use NISSAN axles and they handle all a d60 can....
What axles you have in the US?????

Eduardo

Unfortunately, just the H233B for a decent rear axle. Solid axle front Nissans have not been here since the Patrol was discontunued in the 60s. We cannot get the H233 Front or H260 rear axles like y'all can, although I know more than a few would pay some good money for them if we could.

And even with the rear axles, they are cost prohibitive. A ring and pinion for an H233B is over $400. Which makes it cheaper for us to find an old jeep axle, gears AND a locker to swap into the rear., instead of just re-gearing the Nissan one.

I have access to the C200's in both front and rear, also the H260 and others. All can handle 35" tires or more. ARB makes lockers for them also. Are they expensive? Yea a bit but will run you a lot less than a set of Mog or C303 diffs. Some people like to keep it all Nissan and they are willing to get the C200 or others. And yes this is in the USA...Patrol diffs are the toughest made in Nissans line and these can be bought and installed under X-terras, Pathies, Frontier's, Hardbodies, 720's and you get the idea. There is a variety of them from a 40+ year span in both coil and leaf sprung.

I have browsed the Rover, Benz, TLC and other forums here at length and to say this place or Pirate is only for the most extreme hardcore is BS. Plenty of other topics besides "extreme" in other areas.

If you have access to heavy-duty Nissan solid axles, you need to start doling out information. I know of quite a few people that would be interested in buying them.

SPEAK!

Maybe its because all of you are newbies except THREE of you :flipoff2: And as for the attitude you dont like; go somewhere else, we dont need you.

Whats wrong is that Not enough people want to wheel Nissans. There also isnt much to do without removing and replacing everything it seems. You also drown your tech section with stupid questions and for sale ads.

Forgive me if I sound harsh, but I believe the Nissan Forum has potential but really needs to be shaped up.

Forgive me if I sound harsh, but I believe the Nissan Forum has potential but really needs to be shaped up.

nothing to forgive and I agree. As far as the "newbie" comment....here is my reply :flipoff2:

SFA I can get, most have diff pumpkin on the RHS or passenger side. The best bang for the buck is the C200, like I say ARB's drop right into it. Right now I am not stocking any diffs other than old P-troll C216's. In the future I will have a variety available in stock. If you or others want a SFA diff no problem. I have several others also wanting a few sets. You gonna have to pre-pay for them though and be patient.

The problem with using all Nissan Axles...All the trucks are drivers drop from the end of the 720's on. You guys off shore have alot more choices than we do.

Originally posted by unissamog
So to be quite honest....once you get to the level of wheeling that is "normal" for this board, your Nissan will be more non-nissan than nissan.

the only nissan things left on mine is the cab,bed,frame.

i have almost all but given up on this forum because the lack of people willing to give info,or even oppinions.
there is also the fact that like my self not everyone knows everything about nissans.

You are right not everyone knows everything about Nissans. There are some guys who know a ton in the USA, more over seas. Then there are those that at least are trying to improve the Nissan community in the USA.

It is also correct to say that since the 720 it is all drivers drop. Yet, the P-troll is and has always been a passenger side drop. Even a 2004 P-troll is this way. I fully understand using domestic parts in a build up...cost the #1 concern, availablity or part is likely #2. Yet the fact remains that the tuffest Nissan stuff made goes into the Patrol. The GQ Patrol 5spd for example is world wide known for being totally bomber. For a select few it is still important to use Nissan parts in a Nissan mod project.

While we have strayed off topic it is interesting to chat with others about these things, to me any ways. I have a website and forum dedicated to Nissan Patrols and other trucks. You are all welcome to drop on by and browse or post.

RMP&O (http://www.rmp-o.com/)

Originally posted by SR5Dave

Whats wrong is that Not enough people want to wheel Nissans. There also isnt much to do without removing and replacing everything it seems.
Oh come on, don't try and tell me that the toyotas aren't the same way. Most of the guys going big with toys have D60s in the front.

Originally posted by SirMrManGuy

Oh come on, don't try and tell me that the toyotas aren't the same way. Most of the guys going big with toys have D60s in the front.
I see you're new here.

Toyotas ARENT the same way, the Toyota tech section here is the forefront of tech on the forum. Hell, Gen4x4 is the only tech section that gets more posts than us.

Toyota axles with longs can easily push 35"s with no breakage. Longs and chromos and LOTS of people run 38.5" SX's. Even some w/ V8's and big tires still do fine. Arent most Nissans IFS?...... Also, the toy trannies are VERY strong. a few particular trannies are strong enough to hold up to a V8. Toy cases are the best thing next to an atlas, with more gearing options than you could wish for. Toy CV's and ujoints on the driveline are pretty much the same as 1350 joints. So, no its not the same. You can pull your foot out of your mouth now, if you pull your head out of your ass first. :flipoff2: :rolleyes:

Toyotas ARENT the same way, the Toyota tech section here is the forefront of tech on the forum. Hell, Gen4x4 is the only tech section that gets more posts than us.

He was not talking about the forum...DUH!

Toyota axles with longs can easily push 35"s with no breakage blahblahblahblahblahblah.

This is a Nissan forum, if we want to get schooled on Toyos we can go over to the ever so popular and highly over rated Toyota forum...mmmk, thanks.

FYI, (since you are in a Nissan forum) The Patrol trannies from 1960 to 2004 can handle 35"-37" tires no problem with no breakage. Same with the diffs.

You can pull your foot out of your mouth now, if you pull your head out of your ass first.

Tell me something SR5Dave....were you born an asshole or did you have to work at it!? For a guy with a HUGE pos 4x4 you talk a lot of crap. Go back over to the Toyo forum, we don't need your advice, input or comments in this forum. Not to mention your know-it-all additude and flaming is totally high school. :flipoff2: :p

Bravo! I was thinking about how to say what you said, but all I could come up with was something about that pos in sr5 daves pic. I mean, he talks about how the Toys have all this great stuff, and he runs a jalopy! :rolleyes: My advice to him is get a job and spend some money on your junk before acting like you got the sweetest smelling shit! :flipoff:

Originally posted by SR5Dave
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I see you're new here.


I love my 83 Longbed- Never work on it. Looks like crap and needs paint... new goal: pry ass outa chair and do something to my pos!1982 Toyota SR5 4x4 Still a stock beater! I fixed your sig line for ya!:)

Originally posted by RMP&O

He was not talking about the forum...DUH!

I was reffering to both ;)



This is a Nissan forum, if we want to get schooled on Toyos we can go over to the ever so popular and highly over rated Toyota forum...mmmk, thanks.

Someone else brought it up first.

FYI, (since you are in a Nissan forum) The Patrol trannies from 1960 to 2004 can handle 35"-37" tires no problem with no breakage. Same with the diffs.
Cool, Patrols are nice. Now make them as availible as a Toyota pickup truck and MAYBE they'll have the same success.


Tell me something SR5Dave....were you born an asshole or did you have to work at it!? For a guy with a HUGE pos 4x4 you talk a lot of crap. Go back over to the Toyo forum, we don't need your advice, input or comments in this forum. Not to mention your know-it-all additude and flaming is totally high school. :flipoff2: :p

It runs in the family :flipoff2: Oh no! You're insulting my truck, my feelings are so hurt :( :rolleyes: Its not my know it all attitude, Im trying to tell you WHY the Nissan forum sucks. Im trying to give some input. If you want to sit here and flame me for telling you why blunty, knock yourself out.

Originally posted by TRed
Bravo! I was thinking about how to say what you said, but all I could come up with was something about that pos in sr5 daves pic. I mean, he talks about how the Toys have all this great stuff, and he runs a jalopy! :rolleyes: My advice to him is get a job and spend some money on your junk before acting like you got the sweetest smelling shit! :flipoff:

Oh.

well you see SR5Dave....one of the reasons this forum is not doing good is guys like you! Who cares if this guy or that guys is new, it makes no difference. Does having posted over 1000 times makes you better, smarter or more suited to talk Nissans?? Maybe some guys only found the internet recently, maybe some guys have only found this site recently, maybe some guys spend more time working on their trucks then in front of the computer. It does not mean they are lacking knowledge. It also does not mean the deserve to be disrespected in public. Stop being a JERK and GROW up and maybe then we will respect your oh so crappy Toyota. :rolleyes:

I do not believe I was or am flaming you...I can do much better if flaming is what you want. Actually I am making a point. If you do not have something decent to say or can't treat people with respect then go somewhere else as you so bluntly put it. As the famous saying goes...if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. I think you understand what that means. Try a different approuch and you may make some friends. Keep up the additude and you will only continue to make yourself look like a major ASS.

Nuff said....

I think the problem with most Nissan guys is they are too thin skinned. Just about every topic in this forum is a rant or bitch about something stupid. Kinda like this. Shit chat if you ask me.

I have not been over here for a long time but it is really dead. It looks like all of the same stuff is getting talked about. I loved my Nissan and still do but it is a fact that they are not build in the states to go anywhere near the dirt so you have to change just about everything on the truck. I would have jumped on SR5Dave back in the day to for insulting my pride and joy but lets be honest, everything he said was right one the money. If you like wheeling, toys are just better. I have no desire to build a toy but no need to jump on the guy.

Most of the guys here will vouch for the fact that our trucks do quite well on the dirt and the rocks. Its the fact that our aftermarket is quite small that hurts us (but it is growing thanks to a handfull of compaines). We don't have compaines like AP or Marlin or the crapload of other compaines yet, but we will eventually. That is mostly what holds our trucks back against yours.

Our rear axles are quite strong th h233b is 9.25in ring gear and 31 or 33 spline depending on year. We have some beefy trailworthy parts.

I will put my truck up against any comparable year yota, set up similarly and i gaurentee I'll keep up or do better than them.

As for the forum, pirate is quite hostile to noobs, and I've said shit about that before. So fucking what if I don't post here alot, my E-penis is small, whoopdy fucking doo. If it matters, I've been around forms and usegroups since the early 90s, I know what I'm doing there, I've crossed the 1000 mark on half a dozen other forums, I don't care. I could waste bandwidth saying pointless shit to get my postcount up so I can get respect here, but I'm not that petty. If someone asks a simple question it is just as easy to answer it or point them in the right direction as it is to be an ass. Take a look at Nissan4wheelers forum if you want a good example of what is going on with nissans and the way to help people out.

Thanks for sticking up for me fudd(RMP&O), you said most of what I wanted to. If I had a patrol I would give you some business, I'll look your direction in a few(many) years when I'm ready to import a diesel GQ (I'm serious about that).

Most of the guys here will vouch for the fact that our trucks do quite well on the dirt and the rocks. Its the fact that our aftermarket is quite small that hurts us (but it is growing thanks to a handfull of compaines). We don't have compaines like AP or Marlin or the crapload of other compaines yet, but we will eventually. That is mostly what holds our trucks back against yours.

I know what your going through. Trust me. Ive been through it. You want what you have to be something it is not so bad that you start to believe it. I love Nissans. They can be built into one heck of a rig. Of course, so can anything. There are very few aftermarket companies because there are so many weak spots that most companies just leave them alone. Some of the rears are strong. I ended up doing the solid axle conversion in 97 so I was just a little ahead of the curve. Once again, I do not have a thing for Toyotas, I do not own one and I will not build one but as far as:
I will put my truck up against any comparable year yota, set up similarly and i gaurentee I'll keep up or do better than them.

No, that just won't happen. Similar set up, no way.

Originally posted by Buckon37s




No, that just won't happen. Similar set up, no way. It's a bet. I will take that challenge, my sas Fronty against a sas Taco. I don't think it matters what year, if it is set up similarly, my rig will keep up or do better. And I know a dozen ifs dudes that will take the challenge too, and do better or keep up. Bring it AWN! :flipoff2:

Hey Tred,

Post that up in the Toy Forum. This should be good. You realize that if you did a sas swap, the toy can have one too. D-60, mog, 9in??? This is great:rolleyes: I hope you guys pull it off, but I'm putting my money on the toys, oh wait, I can't find anybody to take that bet :D

you could put the best built nissan up against any rig and compete, but if you do not know how to drive (and i am not saying that you dont)then it does not matter what you have you will not prevail. it is a simple fact 90% of wheeling is the driver.
-Matt

I'm still IFS and I'll wheel against an IFS toy, and after my SAS is done this summer I'll do the same. I've done it already since thats what most of my wheeling buddys are. I'm just sick of hearing shit about my choice of truck from every front and having to prove myself. I wheel my truck and I wheel it hard.

The reason I said year is because I didn't want these guys thinking that I ment I would put my 95 IFS pathy against a SA pre85 4runner. I know that my front dosen't flex worth a damn.

Hey Tred, I haven't seen any updates lately... Are you gonna be out in AZ in March? Is yours done??

Thanks for sticking up for me fudd(RMP&O), you said most of what I wanted to. If I had a patrol I would give you some business, I'll look your direction in a few(many) years when I'm ready to import a diesel GQ (I'm serious about that).

Hey man...no problem. I thought we had a little something going with the thread, at least a little something. Until it became a flame ya for owning a Nissan fest. That bugs me, most the time I keep my mouth shut but sometimes I have to open it and tell the other guy to STFU!

I agree...N4W is one of the best Nissan forums on the web. Cheers to them (us)! :D

What is exciting is in 2005 we can start bringing in the MQ Patrols. Is the MQ an ugly Bronco2 look-alike...? Yea it is kinda ugly and the overseas Ford Maverick is the same as the MQ/Mk series Patrols. Yet, they are one tuff truck and have C200, plus a few have the H260 in the rear. SD33, P40 (ugh), L28 and SD33T were all put in the MQ/MK. None are big motors but all can be fun to mess with and can be upgraded. I actually just bought a 83 MQ Patrol with the SD33. It is already in the USA so it is legal to own and drive. What I am digging about them is that things are available up the arse unlike the old 60 series P-trolls. Things like Safari snorkels, ARB lockers and so forth. It also has a cool removable rear hard top like the older 4runners. I am going to build it a bit and beat the hell out of the MQ! Also in 2005 we can start importing the G61 series of Patrol, this is a fusion of MQ and 60-series. The result is an old looking Patrol with C200's, a 4spd, buckets, padded dash and more. They are fairly rare but can be found in certain places in the world. I actually bought one of these also and it is tucked away safely waiting to be imported on January 1st 2005! ;) Any ways, as the years go by we will be able to own the top of the Nissan food chain that is the PATROL!

Lastly, I don't care what Toyo, Jeep or whatever you drive...I will put my 40 year old P-trolls up aganist it any day! My roomie owns a 2004 Jeep Landrunner with danas, lift, 35" MTR's and all that jazz...My P-trolls can out do it so just try me! :p And if a P-troll fails me (never happens) then I bust out my 6x6 Pinz and lets see anything short of a Mog try and keep up, it is not going to happen. Why? You can't go where I can with a locked up 6x6. 48"-60" deep water in fast rivers, no problem. Three feet deep clay mud, no problem. Logs the size of my roomies 35" MTR's, no problem. Grades over 75%, no problem. Snow that is 48" deep, no problem. Don't believe me? Come on out to Wyo and I will prove it to you all day long. Yet, I do fully agree it is the driver of the truck not the machine.... :rolleyes:

I have seen and been around some Pinzgauers and they do rock.https://www.crawltech.com/albums/SAS-Frontier/DSCF0022.sized.jpg

Originally posted by McSoo
Hey Tred, I haven't seen any updates lately... Are you gonna be out in AZ in March? Is yours done?? Is mine done? Well, Mike, I don't know if you did everything by yourself or not, but I did, and so, it has taken me a long time to finish, however, it is looking real good and should be driveable soon. BTW, I do plan on taking it to AZ 4 this year, I sure hope both our junk will be there. :D

Originally posted by RMP&O


What is exciting is in 2005 we can start bringing in the MQ Patrols. Is the MQ an ugly Bronco2 look-alike...? Yea it is kinda ugly and the overseas Ford Maverick is the same as the MQ/Mk series Patrols. Yet, they are one tuff truck and have C200, plus a few have the H260 in the rear. SD33, P40 (ugh), L28 and SD33T were all put in the MQ/MK. None are big motors but all can be fun to mess with and can be upgraded. I actually just bought a 83 MQ Patrol with the SD33. It is already in the USA so it is legal to own and drive. What I am digging about them is that things are available up the arse unlike the old 60 series P-trolls. Things like Safari snorkels, ARB lockers and so forth. It also has a cool removable rear hard top like the older 4runners. I am going to build it a bit and beat the hell out of the MQ! Also in 2005 we can start importing the G61 series of Patrol, this is a fusion of MQ and 60-series. The result is an old looking Patrol with C200's, a 4spd, buckets, padded dash and more. They are fairly rare but can be found in certain places in the world. I actually bought one of these also and it is tucked away safely waiting to be imported on January 1st 2005! ;) Any ways, as the years go by we will be able to own the top of the Nissan food chain that is the PATROL!

Wow, thats really excellent to hear. I'll have to look into these MQs, I haven't heard much about them. I like the idea of a removable top.

How about the SD33T, I heard that it was used in the IH scouts for a bit? Any specs on it hp/torque wise? I've always wanted to swap the Pathy over to bio-diesel, think it would make a good canidate for the swap? What trannys/tcases bolt up to it? Basicly anything you can tell me I would like to know.

I wrote a letter to Nissan US a bit ago asking them to bring us the patrols, never got a response. Maybe we should start an online petition or something if there isn't already one. I would really like to see it in the states. I might try calling Motorex, who imports the skylines from Aus, to find out some info about getting the trucks here.

email em for pictures of the MQ Patrol. The MQ is the first generation and MK is second...they are very similar. The MQ got a 4spd and the MK a 5spd. They came in both a SWB tow door and a LWB four door. In some places in the world it was called the Nissan Safari, no idea why.

The SD33T and SD33 were both put in the IH starting in 1976. I think they used it up to the early 80's. HP for the non-turbo is about 95@4k (near redline), torque is about 140@2k. Not real great but with the turbo it goes up to about 110hp and 170lbs. With a mod to the turbo and 3" exhaust I think you can get more out of it. #1 thing I like about the motor is that the diesel is water proof, with a snorkel fording is what it is all about. #2 thing I like is the milage you will get from it. #3 thing I like is low maintenance and #4 is long life of the motor. I doubt it is a great highway cruiser in that it will have trouble doing 75mph. Off road though it should be awesome. A variety of IH trannies bolt to it including an auto. I believe the 4spd and 5spd MQ/MK Patrol trannies also bolt to it. Would it be a good motor to drop into a Pathy or X-terra? I don't think so as it is a 30+ year old design. For that I would go for the 4.2TD GQ/GU diesel, it has around 170hp and 340lbs. It is also a inline six and there are many mods for it including turbo upgrades, exhaust and extractors. These engines are all available on the used market overseas. I know where a SD33T is right now for $1800 with the IH tranny and transfer, in the USA. Seems kinda spendy to me, considering it is used from an old beat up Scout. I have seen the SD33T with MQ 4spd for sale from the Japan engine importers for $2k, a bit better price IMHO because it is from low milage trucks. The 4.2TD will run a lot more. I am interested in the SD33T for adapting to the old 60 series P-troll. I also plan to fit the GQ/GU 4.2TD, 5spd tranny/transfer to an old 60 series P-troll in the future. Where will this lead? May lead nowhere other than me having an old badass Nissan....

As far as the law goes you can not legally import any vehicle into the USA under 25 years old. There are exceptions to the rule such as import for 364 days, military holes in the system if you are in the service and so forth. This is how 99% of any newer Patrol exists in the USA. There was or is a company in SoCal that was or could import newer GQ/GU Patrols. Thing was or is that it ran you around $50k or so to buy one and drive it leagally. Nobody really bought them so I am unsure if the company still does the import, I don't even remember their name. The 83 MQ I bought I think came from the middle east and was imported by a service man after the gulf war. I have heard of people trying to import newer trucks and customs has seized them, big bummer after you paid money for the truck and shipping. I have also heard you can get it into the country but can't register it so you are left with trailering it to off road events only. Another exception would be for fire use such as fire trucks or for use on a farm, ie AG use. This is how a (maybe the only one) 1979 FG60H Patrol fire truck was imported into the USA in 2003. The rig was only 24 years old but he got it in because it is a fire truck. Many newer Mogs are imported by the AG loophole.

Before Benz began selling the G-series in the USA a few years back there was a company (still is) called Eurotopia in Arizona. They were the only ones importing the G-series into the USA. They sold for $100K or more! This company was selling the hell out of them at this price. So Benz said screw this and starting selling the G-series in the USA, rest is history. The point is there has to be a market in the USA for Nissan to listen. You know there is one and I know there is one but Nissan is ignorant. Nissan has always been ignorant to the USA market and this is why we do not have the Patrol today. A petition may help or work but it will take 5000+ people to sign it before they will even begin to listen. Nissan is dumping ton's into the Frontier, X-terra, Titan and Armada and they have no plans to do anything with the P-troll in the USA. In 15 years I have seen about 8 1980-1995 Patrols for sale in the USA, there is a few rolling around the country. Your best bet is to find one of these and buy it....

RMP, are you going to attend the "Arizona Run"? I'd really like to see you do all that stuff you say you can in your patroll... :) hehe

T, yeah, I did EVERYTHING by myself. No, it wasn't easy. Yeah, it sucked. Yeah, it took forever. I mean, come on. I'm still working on it!!! (However, the duals are in, and as soon as I build the crossmember, and shorten/build a new rear driveshaft, I'm back on the trails. :D )

I wheeled my '70 Datsun 520 pickup (originally a J13 motor, I swapped in an L16 block with Zhead and 5 speed with '80 front axle) and had fun. Then I got a '71 521 with blown motor and the only thing I had to put in was an LT1 and 700R4 from a rolled Camaro with NP208 from an '80 Blazer. Rear axle popped easy then I upgraded to Chevy pickup 6 lugs (stuck out a ways) and I made my own floor pan (actually a doghouse like a van for easy engine access)

Man I would soooo much love to put my truck where my mouth is and come to AZ run 4! It would really rule to meet DR, Datz and the rest of the Nissan gang....not to mention show you all what a 40 year old Nissan can do! :D Unfortunately, Wyoming is a long way from Arizona. I would have to trailer a Patrol down there and the whole trip would be longer than the run for me. This all costs cash and in the winter that is something I don't have a lot of. Plus I just sold my 64 patrol that is my trail rig so the only other truck ready for a run is a bit to nice to risk beating up. I would motor on down in the 83 MQ Patrol but it needs an injection pump and that is gonna run me around a grand. I might have the MQ ready for GoneMoab but that run is also at a bad time for me due to the lack of cash. I missed both runs last year for the same reasons... :mad:

Maybe by 2005 I can get my act together and have some cash saved for a road trip to wheel with you all....I do not doubt that we both wold enjoy it! ;)

Since I was talking trash about my Pinz here is a picture of it. This is only about 20" of snow but I am just in 4wd with out anything locked. Didn't need lockers for this wimpy stuff! ;) If you look close at the front end you can see a roll bar over the cab. This is not stock and it is my snorkel on the truck. The snorkel is run into the roll bar and air intake is over the passegner door. That is over 7ft off the ground...heh. If you are wondering why it says WARN on the side it is because this is an ex-racing Pinzgauer. It was built for racing by Tabbenruther in Germany for the Transylivania Trophy in 94. Mike Warn himself drove this truck in the 94 trophy and I have video of this. This truck was not only raced in the Ukraine but also Morroco and other countries. The damn things has been more places than I have! More pictures of it can be viewed on my website still under construction at www.rmp-o.com. it is in the section "RMP&O rigs". There is even a shot of it stuck...heh.



http://www.rmp-o.com/pinz-gallery/images/pinee%20015.jpg

Hey, I don't know if you guys even care or not, such a late post and all, but I know what you guys mean about always being on the defensive about what you wheel. Now, I AM a Toyota guy. Always have been. Very reliable(Like the Nissan), and very durable. Toyota's are extremely popular up here(Washington) and yet the fullsise guys are always flipping us crap. The Jeepers, too, but my buddy has a Jeep. 'Cause you know, if you don't have 500 horsepower and Dana 70's then you have a pussy rig. That's how they act anyway. My little fourbanger and stock gears do just fine. Iv'e gone around many a busted HARCORE fullsize on the trail, recieved sneers from the bustee, then reminded them just who was mobbin' and who wasn't. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble... As before mentioned, toyota's are huge here, 1:1 ratio in terms of Jeep to Toyota on the trails. Yet I always feel I have to defend my "riceburner". Anyway, I understand your rant about cool stuff not being available in the US. Everywhere else in the world Toyotas have been available with gears, lockers, diesels, solid axles, etc. since beginning of production. If you are interested there is a web site that you can go to and sign a petition. It is for toyota's but I feel that any body who loves a good truck should have some interest in waking up the idiots in the motor corporations who only care about how many cupholders are in there "rugged" 4x4's.

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ifs/

I think that Nissan's have a solid basis to their truck's, I just do not think that they can match the durability and versatility of the Toyota. That is just my opinion. I sure would love to drive a Landcruiser and Patrol in Australia, though!
Oh, and if you would like to check out another bulletin that I frequent, go to www.snort4x4.com.

Guys, the reason we decided to sponsor this forum is that we believe that there is a market that is largely untapped for early Nissan trucks. The problem is that Nissan for so long has had no aftermarket support. We're trying to change that. When there are several projects being built here at one time, there will be something to make this forum more active. Before we released T-Case reduction gears, there really was not much of a reason to even try an SAS without making it a fairly big project. We'll be releasing our SAS kit parts next month, and we think this will spark some thinking about building a Nissan. This is our current development rig:
http://www.purenissan.com/D21Project.jpg
Let me know what you guys think of this thing, if it's the direction you think this market will go. We're here to build parts that you guys want. I'd appreciate your feedback here or direct @ stevek@calmini.com

Hey Steve, is that thing gonna be out for AZ Run IV? I'm kinda skeptical, and I really wanna see it. :)

Originally posted by McSoo
Hey Steve, is that thing gonna be out for AZ Run IV? I'm kinda skeptical, and I really wanna see it. :)
I'll be there at least 2 days.

Originally posted by McSoo
Hey Steve, is that thing gonna be out for AZ Run IV? I'm kinda skeptical, and I really wanna see it. :)

What are you skeptical about? I would take Steve's truck over your shitpile any day.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by 76Cruiser


What are you skeptical about? I would take Steve's truck over your shitpile any day.:flipoff2: LOL, yea Steve drag that untested, unproven pavement pounder out there and have Mike show you how to build and wheel it. I sure hope you don't brake down and need a tow back to Bakersfield, or maybe you could park it and let Mikey fix it for ya! :laughing:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Funnay!

Steve Kramer,

That front bumper on the Nissan pic you posted, is it avail. for a '91 toyota as well? I sure like the looks of it.

Josh

Originally posted by JThompson
Steve Kramer,

That front bumper on the Nissan pic you posted, is it avail. for a '91 toyota as well? I sure like the looks of it.

Josh NO! Go back to the Toy section and leave the Nissan parts alone.:flipoff2:

"NO! Go back to the Toy section and leave the Nissan parts alone."

Well, ok. Didn't know you guys were THAT defensive about what you drive. No wonder not as many people are interested in Nissan's. I actually think that truck is pretty cool, but I can't talk to you about it because you are so damned jealous about Toyota's aftermarket.

We're not. Terrance is just an ass hole. He was just messing with ya. Toughen up newb!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by JThompson
"NO! Go back to the Toy section and leave the Nissan parts alone."

Well, ok. Didn't know you guys were THAT defensive about what you drive. No wonder not as many people are interested in Nissan's. I actually think that truck is pretty cool, but I can't talk to you about it because you are so damned jealous about Toyota's aftermarket.

Cant speak for TRed but ---> :flipoff2: usually means it was just some friendly ribbing or sarcasm or similar, all in good fun. untwist your panties a bit and hang out for a while:flipoff2:
Oh check out all-pro, I think they sell a bumper that looks similar specificly for yotas


Ben

I didn't mean to be such a prude but I guess I'm not used to it. The forum I usually go to (www.Snort4x4.com) is not as sarcastic or whatever. It is smaller and is more tech based. Sorry.;)

Josh

I was j/k really. I am still a DAN on this board. Some of these guys have forgotten more about this sport than I know.