: What Causes The Dreaded Hop?


FULLSIZE
12-23-2001, 08:07 PM
what is it that make a vehicle start to hop(bounce)? is it axle wrap? too stiff? too soft? just thought i'd see if anyone had any ideas:question:

Pook
12-23-2001, 08:20 PM
axle wrap causes wheel hop.

Adam Ant
12-23-2001, 08:24 PM
too much gas Not enough traction and not wanting to look gay and not make It !!!

sometimes to much traction not enough momentum soft spring will result in wrap or driveline issue's or bent springs, axleshaft's

last time I broke I was just lazy and did not want to take a different line ( hard headed my wife says :eek: ) and just stepped on the pedal ! and guess what I broke my rear deiveline and my traction bar heim! ! DOH! my fault but what does this mean
back to the drawing board!!!

coilovers help out alot !!!! or good shocks that eat up the bounce sway away or bilstein expect to pay excess 250 or more for 1 good shock !


Adam,

FULLSIZE
12-23-2001, 09:44 PM
i kinda figured it was the wrap, and soft shocks. going with the sams style bars front and rear. i have 5000s now, would 9000s help cause i could adjust them a little harder?:usa:

Adam Ant
12-23-2001, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by FULLSIZE
i kinda figured it was the wrap, and soft shocks. going with the sams style bars front and rear. i have 5000s now, would 9000s help cause i could adjust them a little harder?:usa:

yep After I broke my traction bar I stiffen the setting of the shocks and it helped alot at least for the weekend !! when you have more weight it 's nice to be able to turn it up a notch

when you need it !!!

Adam,

Adam Ant
12-23-2001, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by FULLSIZE
i kinda figured it was the wrap, and soft shocks. going with the sams style bars front and rear. i have 5000s now, would 9000s help cause i could adjust them a little harder?:usa:




think about it though how many people with 4 link and bars do you see bounce !!! alot and if you have not come over I have 20 video's you can watch !!

just got done watching Famington finals over agian !!!

Adam,

4x4extreme
12-23-2001, 10:57 PM
axel wrap and loss of traction

ColdNorth
12-24-2001, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Adam Ant





think about it though how many people with 4 link and bars do you see bounce !!! alot and if you have not come over I have 20 video's you can watch !!

just got done watching Famington finals over agian !!!

Adam,
Seems to me that a rig with a link-style suspension would hop because of a li'l too much anti-squat (IE, when you gas it, your ass end picks up a li'l because of the geometry of the susp)... If this were the case, then when the tire got traction, the truck would raise a li'l, and when the tire slipped, the truck would drop, and in dropping, cause a bit of an increase in contact pressure, gaining some xtra traction, and then the whole thing repeats.

But that's just a guess. :flipoff2:

RHINO
12-24-2001, 09:02 AM
if your talkin about wheelhop on obstacles, i.e. climbing over, then wheelhop is somethin that just happens. i get wheelhop when i let the tires spin too much grabbin for traction, they grab then slip then grap then slip, on and on till you make it over. i have traction bar, welded diff bla bla bla, it just happens when the tires slip. but i think it does happen more/easier without traction bars due to axle wrap.

wngrog
12-24-2001, 09:36 AM
Watchin gthe ARCA rigs I found that the leaf sprung vehicles like Durhams truck never bounced, but the 4 link tj coil trucks bounced like hell.

When mine bounces, I can crank my 9000's to 5 and it will mostly stop.

Too much weight, not enough shock is the formula that you don't want for wheel hop.

WideJ
12-24-2001, 11:42 AM
I just want to give some props to ColdNorth! I had never thought of that before...

Something funny:
My friend built a four link that has so much anti squat that he can drop the clutch on the street and his driver side front tire comes off the ground! Its pretty funny to watch him drive around...

brutus
12-24-2001, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by FULLSIZE
what is it that make a vehicle start to hop(bounce)? is it axle wrap? too stiff? too soft? just thought i'd see if anyone had any ideas:question: OK i will tell you 'its the tires:rasta: :rasta: :bounce2: :bounce: :bounce2:

FULLSIZE
12-24-2001, 10:28 PM
gee, thanks brutus:flipoff2: dont you have some work to do?!:D

Adam Ant
12-24-2001, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by FULLSIZE
gee, thanks brutus:flipoff2: dont you have some work to do?!:D

Scott do work????????

you mean Stacey!!


:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Adam,

Brutpwr
12-25-2001, 08:49 AM
The front end of my IFS Toy hops more than the front end of my solid axle Toy! Not sure why--but it does!

Jason