: Tranny


scoutman72
01-05-2004, 07:33 PM
I have a 68 Scout 800 will an auto tranny from a V8 Scout bolt up to the 196 in mine??? PLease help.

binderbound
01-06-2004, 06:55 AM
Knock the weights off of the flexplate and bolt it up. It will be tilted to the side cuz of the twisted bell battern(15*). You'll have to do something to the crossmember. Probably have to get a deep pan to make sure you dont run it dry. Dont be surprised if its a dawg.:flipoff2:

scoutman72
01-06-2004, 08:35 AM
Dont be surprised if its a dawg

Elaborate on this a little.

Sully
01-06-2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by scoutman72


Elaborate on this a little.

Take the sluggishness of a 4 cyl in a heavy truck, and then compound it through a slushbox tranny.

binderbound
01-06-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Sully


Take the sluggishness of a 4 cyl in a heavy truck, and then compound it through a slushbox tranny.

You pulled it right out of my head.

The 4 cyl needs all the help it can get when it comes to laying down power and the auto doesnt help in a daily driver. In a dedicated trail rig or crawler it 'might' be ok if you had enough gears (crawl box, 5.88's, etc...)

Old Scout
01-06-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by binderbound


You pulled it right out of my head.

The 4 cyl needs all the help it can get when it comes to laying down power and the auto doesnt help in a daily driver. In a dedicated trail rig or crawler it 'might' be ok if you had enough gears (crawl box, 5.88's, etc...)

Finding a torque converter that is the correct stall for the 4 banger is another consideration as well.

binderbound
01-06-2004, 11:51 AM
What do you think it should be? Higher stall since the operating RPM's are different than the V8? I'm curious now.

Old Scout
01-06-2004, 12:10 PM
It's going to need to be a loose converter, so it can get into it's power band The 727 was not designed to be behind a low power engine. The 904 would be a better choice, but we all know it's not available in a IH pattern.

binderbound
01-06-2004, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Old Scout
It's going to need to be a loose converter,

Like a converter that gets around, if you know what I mean:D

I'm not sure what a loose converter is?

scoutver5.7
01-06-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by binderbound


Like a converter that gets around, if you know what I mean:D

I'm not sure what a loose converter is?

Higher than stock stall speed. Not sure what stock 727 is. Somewhere around 1,600 - 1,800? Looser would be anything higher. I'd guess 2,200 to 2,400 would be about right.:D