I have just destroyed my rear spider gears and instead of spending the money to replace them I have decided to upgrade to a locker. What I am wondering is there anyone with an opinion on what kind, why, and who to get it from. Also do I have the option of using a power tank with regulator to operate an ARB if thats what I should get. thanks

1 : Maxi drive diff lock. comes with upgraded axles.

2 : Jacmac diff lock. different types available.

3 : ARB

Michael

I am very happy with Maxi-Drive lockers/axles. However I have been told that in the States it is cheaper for you to buy an ARB centre and Maxi-Drive heavy duty axles than buy a complete MD locker. GBR and a few other places sell MD axles and other bits in the states I think.

ARB

PS Did I mention I have a used one in a third member with 3:54 gears for sale?

:D

how much are you asking

PM box empty now.

BTW, the locker has new pinion seal, new bearings and are low-mileage 3:54's.

Slow down, maybe we should ask the man what he uses the RR for. Not everyone needs a manual selecting locker.

So I'll ask. What type of wheeling do you do?

Also, if it was not clear, you need to buy a 24 spline locker (or larger) and replace the halfshafts and axle flanges to match.

Originally posted by Michael Rangie
1 : Maxi drive diff lock. comes with upgraded axles.

2 : Jacmac diff lock. different types available.

3 : ARB

Michael

Very Pro Australian I see!! :D


edit: However if I had the money and didn't want to fab in something like a complete rear axle assembly this might be the way I would go.

with the ice storms that part of the country is used to seeing during the winter, I would recommend sticking with a selectable locker. retaining the ability to drive on the roads with open diffs is a huge safety feature, IMO.

fwiw -

isaac (from shawnee, incidentally)

Well, it depends, I suppose. Maybe it is an off road only rig. This is what we want to know. And really I don't think the full fulltime lockers are as bad as people think. We wheel all year round in these parts with ice and snow for 6 months of the time. Lots of people run Detroits and many rear spools. They don't seem to have problems.

I prefer manual lockers also, but depending on somone's needs, budget, etc.. there are valid reasons for other choices. If he is only into moderate off roading and wants to save money a Truetrac is a great choice. If he wants a full locker, wants to save money and doesn't mind the road manners a Detroit can not be beaten. Both these offer simplicity, which some people desire.

the rr is used to ive to work daily anywhere from 30 to 70 miles a day and beleive it or not they are windy around the lake. So I do beleive that I would want a selectable locker also I dont think the area that i wheel in (Disney) would be worth the time and money of a truetrac.
also what would be the weak point and how weak for each spline set up I would rather change axles than C&P gears But I am looking for advise and whys and why nots thanks

Well you currently have 10 spline axles and diffs. They are breadsticks.

The minimum is to change to aftermarket 24 spline axles with a quality diff. Assuming you get the Maxi-Drive half shafts, stick with reasonable sized tires and engine this should be basically unbreakable. You are in a toss up with R&P strength at that stage. For 99% of the wheelers out there this is fine and will last.

If you are planning on going serious on the tire or engine, then it is only a little more to go 30 spline ( a standard Dana size) with different side gear to accomodate. This requires the spindles to be slightly overbored. This will be stronger than the R&P.

Above that, it mean all new axles. You can read the many posts on this forum about what people are running.

Not to worry, the front axle is weaker and will follow......

Originally posted by xcbiker1
the rr is used to ive to work daily anywhere from 30 to 70 miles a day and beleive it or not they are windy around the lake. So I do beleive that I would want a selectable locker also I dont think the area that i wheel in (Disney) would be worth the time and money of a truetrac.

selectable/shmectable

Deeeetroit (and axles) and fuggedaboudit...

keith
:usa:

What sort of prices do you ladies in the good old usa pay for ARB's for LR's with 24spline?

Merv

Depends on what you mean by the word 'pay'.

hehe.

I'm working on your package right now Merv!

:eek:

BTW...the locker I had for sale was 24 spline, and I think I have already sold it.

Cost to the punter? how many bucks?

I'm looking at about 500£ stg, which is over 700$ I guess.


oh, and remember, it has to go through customs who will probably inspect it. I may get in trouble, but they will also know who sent it
Merv.
:flipoff2:

Around $635 plus or minus.

Detroit lockers are around 480 to 500 Us dollar and ARB are 600 and up depend on who you call, I would agree with the above statement on selectable lockers as they are much easy on the axle shafts, Most decisions are based on how much you can spend.

Originally posted by Commando7
Detroit lockers are around 480 to 500 Us dollar and ARB are 600 and up depend on who you call, I would agree with the above statement on selectable lockers as they are much easy on the axle shafts

Bah - he has to get new axles either way. Gotta be nuts to use lockers with 24 spline much less 10 spline.

Throw a full time in there and forget it - no air compressor/tank/lines/switches/what ever

click-click-click-click-click...that's what I'm talking about ;)

keith
:usa:

arbs are on sale right now at $G. in the bargain bin for 495

after much research and price checking I have decided to go with detroit and of course 24 spline. The reason I chose to go with detroit over ARB is the times when an axle shaft is most likely to break the arb is going to be locked like a spool no give, where as a detroit will allow one wheel to spin faster only a small amount. Second ARB $ 525 plus 180 for compressor and you have to wire and run hoses Detroit I paid 425 plus 250 for used 24 spline axles not the best way to go as far as axles but will upgrade as needed.
thanks guys for all the imput I pray I have chosen wisely

Originally posted by xcbiker1
after much research and price checking I have decided to go with detroit and of course 24 spline.

Good Choice :D


used 24 spline axles not the best way to go as far as axles but will upgrade as needed.

You'll need to - soon if you wheel it. Maybe not the best choice. Best you carry a spare and a magnetic extractor. Umm, you DO know that the chances of your Detroit self-destructing upon axle snappage is good to high, right ? What size tires do you run ??? Do you wheel this thing or just want the locker ?

Maybe you should wait until you can buy both - I'm sure used 10 spline RRC diffs are cheap and available (since they suck).

keith
:usa:

Maybe you should wait until you can buy both - I'm sure used 10 spline RRC diffs are cheap and available (since they suck).

Land Rover axles suck altogether! Let the truth come out.

Dana.............it's not just a pretty girls name.

. . .hey - truth is, they're great on 29's!!!! :flipoff2:

[i]The reason I chose to go with detroit over ARB is the times when an axle shaft is most likely to break the arb is going to be locked like a spool no give, where as a detroit will allow one wheel to spin faster only a small amount. [/B]

Hang on there cowboy. This is NOT true. Under power input a Detroit is 100% locked up. IMHO, an ARB will be much less stressfully on the shafts as you only lock it when needed. PLUS, you know when it is locked, so you can insert brain and take it easier on the power....

What is the point is spending $250 on used stock shafts. Crap that is a lot of money. I could (personally) just about get M-D shafts for that price. Save a bit of money and get real shafts. OR find a better deal. There must be people around here with them lying around getting old on a shelf.

Oh and the compressor... $180 :rolleyes: Christ, go to a junkyard, find a used York or Sanden AC compressor. $20. Fab a bracket, install a small tank and regulator... $50 and you have real air system. You NEED one anyway. If you are getting a locker, you must be actually wheeling and thus air down. Right?????

AT least tell me I got a good price on the Detroit. I am running 265/75 tires and yes I do airdown. I did ask the air question in the first post.
quote "Also do I have the option of using a power tank with regulator to operate an ARB if thats what I should get. thanks"

As for the price of axles where and at what price would I find a set of upgrades for a similar price or a little more so that I dont continue to waist money on crap. If I get responses soon I may be able to cancel my axle order on Monday morning if I know where to go.
what about getting the axles on the way treated, such as a longefield process? I am way open to suggestions thanks

WILL WORK FOR ROVER UPGRADES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!