: Rear Steer anybody?


Bill4rest
12-26-2001, 12:43 PM
Anybody know where to get the ram and lines to do rear steer? Has anybody done or know how to plumb the lines so the rear is selectable? i.e. counter the front and then go with the front?

web pages maybe:D

Pook
12-26-2001, 12:59 PM
tractor stores have alot of the stuff you'll need . Its all in the valves you buy.

Bill4rest
12-26-2001, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Pook
tractor stores have alot of the stuff you'll need . Its all in the valves you buy.

Please elaborate on valves?

Pook
12-26-2001, 01:47 PM
I've been building hydraulic stuff for years just not steering stuff(sawmills, lowriders, equipment ect)
I could figure it all out for you but it'd be quicker to post this on the general board also do a search theres tons of info on this.

Pook
12-26-2001, 01:48 PM
forklifts have the orbital valves for the steering box

scwafish
12-26-2001, 02:21 PM
The rig I used to spot for the Warn RCCs had rear steer....I hated it. It was run off of a toggle on the console which worked fine, but it was just more shit to break (especially the steering ujoints in the back...do you REALLY want more ujoints???). I saw people do just as well with an Altlas and cutting brakes. Plus everyone dings you if you use it now anyways. Can you tell I didn't like it???

Sorry for the vent session, but I'm not sold on it. I say Keep It Simple. After watching all of those rigs I was totaly unimpressed with 90% of all of the multi-link, super duper doo-dads out there. Every year some well set-up butt-simple unit like Kevin Yoter's CJ7 would be in the top 3 kicking everybodies a$$.

Bill4rest
12-26-2001, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by scwafish
The rig I used to spot for the Warn RCCs had rear steer....I hated it. It was run off of a toggle on the console which worked fine, but it was just more shit to break (especially the steering ujoints in the back...do you REALLY want more ujoints???). I saw people do just as well with an Altlas and cutting brakes. Plus everyone dings you if you use it now anyways. Can you tell I didn't like it???

Sorry for the vent session, but I'm not sold on it. I say Keep It Simple. After watching all of those rigs I was totaly unimpressed with 90% of all of the multi-link, super duper doo-dads out there. Every year some well set-up butt-simple unit like Kevin Yoter's CJ7 would be in the top 3 kicking everybodies a$$.


Totally forgot about the cutting breaks. Hummmmm Plus I'm not doing it for ARCA or anything I'm way to poor to do that. I stay in the poor mans arena NWRCA!:D :D

Trail Tough
12-26-2001, 04:08 PM
Hi Bill -

It would be smart to start by going to your local hydraulic supplier. They should be able to provide you with a book that Eaton publishes for selection of their Char-Lynn steering control units. In the back of this book, there is a formula for determining the size rams and appropriate valve and pump GPM. There are hundreds of Char-Lynn valves available with a variety of options - load sensing, etc. We chose to run two 1 1/2" X 8" AGR rams on the front axle and a single AGR ram on the rear of our new Rock Buggy. For proper operation of the load sensing system, they recommend using two rams per axle. A ram has much more power in the pushing direction as opposed to the pulling direction due to the displacement of fluid taken up by the shaft. Also, when using dual rams, you will probably need a pump that will provide close to 4 GPM.

Bill4rest
12-26-2001, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Trail Tough
Hi Bill -

It would be smart to start by going to your local hydraulic supplier. They should be able to provide you with a book that Eaton publishes for selection of their Char-Lynn steering control units. In the back of this book, there is a formula for determining the size rams and appropriate valve and pump GPM. There are hundreds of Char-Lynn valves available with a variety of options - load sensing, etc. We chose to run two 1 1/2" X 8" AGR rams on the front axle and a single AGR ram on the rear of our new Rock Buggy. For proper operation of the load sensing system, they recommend using two rams per axle. A ram has much more power in the pushing direction as opposed to the pulling direction due to the displacement of fluid taken up by the shaft. Also, when using dual rams, you will probably need a pump that will provide close to 4 GPM.

Thanks Brent