: Junk yards suck!


Rockcrawler_101
01-14-2004, 08:44 PM
OK i went two a bunch of junk yards in the past couple days and they have there heads way up there @#$es! I was looking for a ford NP 205 and the first on i went that had it wanted 400 bucks!! so i luaghed and walked away. The next one i went to was pick n pull. Well i didnt know this but they jacked up there prices to 2 bucks! i was pissed about haveing to pay more for the same walk. As i walked to the other junk yards (theres a big group of them together) They all now have sings up for 2 dollar entry fee! So i just walk right by them because i aint wasting my money on them. So i finaly end up at the one that doesnt have a sign and start walking in and then the dude tells me it coast 2 bucks to get in. So i just fine and turned around and walked away. After im about 20 feet away he calls me back and lets me in. I talked to the guy on the inside about finding my 205 and he didnt have one but they guy on the phone he was talking to did. He claimed it was made out of special metal and he wanted only 300 bucks for it! I told him i only had 100 and he just laughed and said that you cant get one for that cheap! Well i finaly end up at the last yard and it was free to get in and i found the 205 bolted behind a c4 and the dude only wanted 100 bucks. Thank god there was still one junk yard out there that realises there selling used crap! Were do these guys get there prices i could buy most this crap cheaper online then they are asking for and its new! Thanks for putting up with my rant and crappy spelling!

Eskimo
01-14-2004, 09:07 PM
no pity, at least you guys HAVE pick n pulls still....

ToyFord
01-14-2004, 09:25 PM
I wonder how much business Safeway's would get if they charged you $2 to walk in the door, or NAPA, or... The wrecking yard business has changed a bit in the last 20 years. I recall wondering around the yard un-hampered w/ my tool box taking whatever I wanted off of different rigs and paying at the door and talking them down on prices. One time we heard the goats running around jumping from car to car (which were stacked three high in the black berries) resulting in us "finding" a school bus buried in the blackberries that was full of alloy wheels and such. Portland Oregon in the 1980's.

TEX
01-14-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by ToyFord
I wonder how much business Safeway's would get if they charged you $2 to walk in the door, or NAPA, or... Sam's

Oops :flipoff2:

FourBanger
01-14-2004, 09:29 PM
The last free-entry U-Pull-IT by me just burned to the ground a few months ago. I'm hoping they rebuild, and stay free.

(Where do junkyard cars go after a fire?)

lsloth
01-14-2004, 09:29 PM
Most of the yards I found will not let you on the yard at all and the few that do have no 4x4 stuff.

SASToy
01-14-2004, 09:36 PM
Had a similar issue trying to get a 22R block. Guy laughed at me for saying 200 dollars is not a reasonable price to pay for a block of this type. I flipped him off and left. I thought you got customers to come back by treating them with respect? So I managed to find a block later that day for $50, drove back to the original junkyard and showed the guy. Didn't really phase him at all but I was just trying to prove a point. I think junkyards have the mentality that you need the part so bad you can't deal without it, so they hike the prices. It really is worth nothing to them but they would honestly see a car go into the crusher with all its parts before selling it to someone for less than what they would consider "ideal".

B4Wheeler
01-14-2004, 09:54 PM
I have a couple of PNPs around me that only charge a dollar to get in and they have menu pricing. Meaning that any transfercase is the same price. No matter what it is, D300, NP205 or toyota.

I like this alot because I can check their prices before I even go in.

I also have a wrecking yard that lets me in for free to get little things. This is one of those places that disassembles vehicles completely and over-charges for parts. I only go there when I need little stuff, like powersteering hoses and wiring harneses. I usually get out of there for less than $10.

I have had them let me out with stuff for free.

Chister
01-14-2004, 09:56 PM
What sucks is driving a Toyota 4Runner, and there are only 2 junkyards within 50 miles that have 4Runner parts...

Each yard has ONE 4Runner sitting on the lot..

Oh, I hate being me...

braxton357
01-14-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Eskimo
no pity, at least you guys HAVE pick n pulls still....


Yeah! Thats right. No good ole boy JY's around here full of tons of cheap 4x4 parts! So stay the fawk away.:flipoff2:

SASToy
01-14-2004, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by braxton357



Yeah! Thats right. No good ole boy JY's around here full of tons of cheap 4x4 parts! So stay the fawk away.:flipoff2:

English Bewbie, English

JeepinDoug
01-14-2004, 10:10 PM
I went to a truck yard and asked how much for some knuckles, they had tons of flat tops. The old greazy fawk said $200 each. I said how much if I pull them myself. He said that is you pull them.
Found them here for $80 a pair.

Kensoffroad
01-14-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by ToyFord
I wonder how much business Safeway's would get if they charged you $2 to walk in the door, or NAPA, or... The wrecking yard business has changed a bit in the last 20 years. I recall wondering around the yard un-hampered w/ my tool box taking whatever I wanted off of different rigs and paying at the door and talking them down on prices. One time we heard the goats running around jumping from car to car (which were stacked three high in the black berries) resulting in us "finding" a school bus buried in the blackberries that was full of alloy wheels and such. Portland Oregon in the 1980's.

I grew up in oregon and I think I went to the same junk yard w/ pops once. I remeber the goats:D

braxton357
01-14-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by SASToy


English Bewbie, English

Huh? What don't you understand about that post? Shall I read it aloud to you?

madcowdungbeetle
01-14-2004, 10:43 PM
I had a guy try to sell me a 60 front and rear on Tuesday for $1900

I told him good luck with that.

GRMhick
01-15-2004, 12:20 AM
What yard did you get that np205 from? I think I need to find a new yard...

xjluvr
01-15-2004, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by Chister
What sucks is driving a Toyota 4Runner, and there are only 2 junkyards within 50 miles that have 4Runner parts...

Each yard has ONE 4Runner sitting on the lot..

Oh, I hate being me...

Your not lookin in the right places.........I have a secret!:flipoff2:

Sundowner
01-15-2004, 04:37 AM
a yard I've been going to since I was 14 down in Bayville, the last pick-n-pull I know of, tried to bang me for $200 for a Toyota AFM and a pair of sunvisors. they would have been $5 items anywhere else.

Oxjockey
01-15-2004, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by B4Wheeler
I have a couple of PNPs around me that only charge a dollar to get in and they have menu pricing. Meaning that any transfercase is the same price. No matter what it is, D300, NP205 or toyota.

I like this alot because I can check their prices before I even go in.

This is a great idea - at least you don't have to go, find the part, ask the guy what he wants, then go back and pull it...or worse yet, pull it first, then bring it up and find out they want to rape you for it.

The nominal fee probably makes up for all the guys stealing clips and parts and bolts, etc.

Bryan

fullygruntled
01-15-2004, 05:57 AM
Harry's U-Pull-it in Hazelton, PA (not too far from Paragon). They do have the $2 entry fee, but pretty much everything in the yard is less than $100. They also have a few thousand cars and trucks on blocks, lined up neatly in rows covering about 130 acres. Long walks, but things are easy to get to and the huge volume brings prices way down.

A local guy who must really think alot of his junk wanted $75 for a York AC compressor and $80 for double cardan driveshaft in bad need of a rebuild. At Harry's, I pulled 3 newer Yorks (with bracketry), 2 DC-shafts, a 90A alternator, a set of TJ flares, and a like-new bumper for my Ram for a grand total of $105.45

Only downsides of the yard are that power tools of any kind are not allowed (slowing you down a bunch), and everybody knows about it, so things like SWB Jeeps, EBs, Scouts, etc get the parts gobbled up with a quickness. Any that I've seen in the yard last maybe a week or two. There are garages in NYC (about 2-3 hours away) that hire guys to do nothing but dig around in the yard for parts.

The other "good" local yard that I prefer not to tell people about is pretty much just an old feller who has 5 acres or so of cars behind his house, but alot of older, rarer stuff. You just call him up and tell him what you need, he pulls it and typically has pretty low prices.

Without these places, my CJ would be an even bigger piece of crap than it is now

Travis Waldher
01-15-2004, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by lsloth
Most of the yards I found will not let you on the yard at all and the few that do have no 4x4 stuff.

A couple junk yards did that, but some others that have that policy let me through... maybe it's cause I look like I work there.

clean dressed = possible lawsuit
not so clean dressed = too poor to sue, or wouldn't do that anway

I guess?

79broncn
01-15-2004, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by ToyFord
The wrecking yard business has changed a bit in the last 20 years.

They sure have. I have a few descent yards here with some killer
deals (but ya gotta get there before somebody else discovers it).

There are a couple that won't let ya in the yard at all tho.
Something about liability is what I was told. I imagine some
asshat hurt himself and sued the yard. :rolleyes: I just don't
go to those any more. Seems I've seen quite a few 205's here in
the for sale sections tho, for reasonable prices too.


NP205 search (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=1186000&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending)

Dieselmh
01-15-2004, 07:24 AM
Our local JY guy is a major asshole. I had to buy a new glove compartment door for my gf's POS cavalier, and he told me there was a grey one out back that he'd sell me for 12 bucks if I pulled it. I went out back, and there were two grey cavaliers almost side by side, but one had a small crack in the door, so I took the good one. He told me that that one was 40 bucks, I was supposed to get the cracked one for 12, but I could just leave the good one there because he had another guy coming to get it later that day. I told him I'd put it back, so I did. Unfortunately I somehow accidentally crossthreaded two of the bolts and rounded off the heads on those two and one other! :D I'll be damned if I was gonna replace a cracked door with another cracked door and do his labor for him! :mad:

HMD
01-15-2004, 07:27 AM
In general, the prices are outrageous in the JY's around here, too. The main business for them around here, is supplying parts to body and repair shops, so they mostly just crush the older stuff. There'a only one place that has anything more than about eight years old. Luckily he's kind of a good old boy. I have found that if I go in, (no entry fee) pull the part first and then ask how much he wants, if he asks to much I just start to leave the part at the counter and walk away and he'll come off the price. I also make it a point of going in in my shop clothes - they jack the prices up for the clean suburbanite preppy guys.

The part that burns my rear is the fact that they will take a slightly wrecked, otherwise complete vehicle in for less than 100 bucks. Then charge hundreds for major parts, and sometimes refuse to sell seperate small parts (can't buy a door handle - you have to buy the whole door for $150). Once, I needed an intake for mid 70's 302 and had to twist the guy arm to get it - he tryed to sell me the whole engine.

I usually check all on my ties with the local towing guys for parts first -- they are usually happy to sell parts off of anything they can before they turn it in to the JY and only get 50 bucks for it.

Franklin
01-15-2004, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by braxton357



Yeah! Thats right. No good ole boy JY's around here full of tons of cheap 4x4 parts! So stay the fawk away.:flipoff2:

J and T Automotive kicks ass huh? ;)

Joe_W
01-15-2004, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Chister
What sucks is driving a Toyota 4Runner, and there are only 2 junkyards within 50 miles that have 4Runner parts...

Each yard has ONE 4Runner sitting on the lot..

Oh, I hate being me...

Try driving a Samurai

killertoy
01-15-2004, 08:46 AM
Well I own a salvage yard so I will give you our honest perspective . Like it or not we run a business and any business has to turn a profit to keep going. I am sure I offend a few people with some of my prices because they can go to joe blow the farmers field and pull that part and give him 10 bucks or a six pack for it. Well first off Mr Blow has no where near the overhead I do, Mr Blow doesn't pay taxes, doesn't pay anything for his cars, and isn't in the auto salvage business. The salvage industry has changed drastically in the last 20 yrs we are becoming more and more like parts stores I have about 35000 sq ft of indoor strg of my parts. Most customers do not want to wait for you to pull thier parts and definetely do not want to pull them themselves, we have the part inventoried and on the rack ready to go. The pick and pull yards cater to guys like us that like scrounging, getting dirty, and cheap prices. They charge the 2 dlr a head fee because of liability, something to do with if you pay to get in you are aknowledging risk or something?, atleast that is what I am told. Today, the salvage market just like every other market is getting mergers and big companys are running chains. Well we all compete for the same cars and trucks for salvage. 10 yrs ago we could buy late model vehicles for 10-15% of book value depending on dmg, today I pay between 30-40% for the same stuff because I am bidding against companies that make 10s of thousands of dollars a day nationwide while I make 1-2 thousand dlrs a day. They get better prices on things such as supplies, shipping, and other misc cost because of thier buying power. It is getting harder and harder for individual companies like me to keep our overhead down and stay competitive. So in turn we get more than 100 dlrs for a 205(my price is 175).

You people that complain about yards not selling a handle off a good door have to consider that we get 150 dlrs for a complete door why would we splt it up for a 10 dlr handle, would you sell me 1 of your boggers and keep the other 3? No you want to sell the set complete right. Well that is my rant to defend people in my profession. In closing I would like to mention that we do pay good money for our salvage cars and trucks these days and that is a direct reflection in our price. We all still try and be competitive with one another and keep the prices down and I really feel that we offer great deals on factory oem parts.

Travis Waldher
01-15-2004, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Joe_W


Try driving a Samurai

It's not our fault the owners burn then bury them out of embarassment.

:flipoff2: