Now that the old buggy is gone. I am seriously motivated on getting the new rig up and running.

Donor truck 87 turbo 5 speed.

new chassis

Looks like its going to be pretty sweet. I'm looking forward to seeing one of your buggies completed.
-Will

Originally posted by Air Ride
new chassis

you running the turbo motor in there? that will be interesting to see.

what are the rest of the specs??

specs

22 RTE
LC Engineering 250 HP pro turbo kit
turbo 5 speed
Toy reduction box
OTT adapter
3.8 Atlas
Volvo Portals
14" Fox air shocks
custom built air struts for 14" adjustable ride height
master craft seats
Warn 9500

I was thinking you'd be running some type of dual setup.

I think this setup with the turbo engine will work awesomely. It seems to me that you should almost always be in the powerband, due to the low gearing. I don't know why people are wanting to stay away from turbos (they claim lag), but I know in my fairly stock TJ (regeared to 4.56s is all) when I'm in low and 1st gear, I'm easily spinning 2-3k when I really need the power.

Mike, you think that will be done by TDS ????
BTW, sounds bitchin. :D :D :D

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ
Mike, you think that will be done by TDS ????
BTW, sounds bitchin. :D :D :D


Thats what I was gonna ask. And also, what is that piece under the rad? I havent seen it on any of your other buggies that I remember

Originally posted by braxton357



Thats what I was gonna ask. And also, what is that piece under the rad? I havent seen it on any of your other buggies that I remember

That's cause it's not a Formula Toy Chassis... It's an X-Chassis, linked front and rear, no toy frame. Nice work Mike.

d

Originally posted by braxton357



what is that piece under the rad? I havent seen it on any of your other buggies that I remember

That's a winch mount that I am experimenting with. Not sure if I like the looks of it yet.

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


That's cause it's not a Formula Toy Chassis... It's an X-Chassis, linked front and rear, no toy frame. Nice work Mike.

d

That's a winch mount that I am experimenting with. Not sure if I like the looks of it yet.

:p

About time you get to work on YOUR stuff.

What is a air strut, obviously it's someting that can change the ride height, but is it like a air bag?
How is the "custom built air struts for 14" adjustable ride height" going to work with the airshox?

Originally posted by jbt
What is a air strut, obviously it's someting that can change the ride height, but is it like a air bag?
How is the "custom built air struts for 14" adjustable ride height" going to work with the airshox?

Interested in this too, Since a strut helps to locate the axle unlike a shock...

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ
Mike, you think that will be done by TDS ????
BTW, sounds bitchin. :D :D :D

I dont know for sure, but I'm going to try.

Sounds like it should be a very sweet rig and fun to drive!
Jay

Originally posted by jbt
What is a air strut, obviously it's someting that can change the ride height, but is it like a air bag?
How is the "custom built air struts for 14" adjustable ride height" going to work with the airshox?

I think your reading into it wrong..

I think its a "14 inch travel" "air shock" with adjustable ride hieght..

prolly a fox but maybe not

From what I can see it looks well laid out... Oughta do what is expected and be a kick ass ride!

Looks great Mike you need to finish it and bring it down to the hammers and try it out.:D

Hey I like your X chassis, can it be made to accomodate 4 adults?

It has room for a bench back seat but I don't think it would fit adults over 5'6". we have plans to make a full 4 seater in the future.

Patiently waiting.......

Originally posted by jbt
What is a air strut, obviously it's someting that can change the ride height, but is it like a air bag?
How is the "custom built air struts for 14" adjustable ride height" going to work with the airshox?

Its top-secret but it works like an air bag but does a couple of other things air bags cant. More after the system is installed.

Finally some progress worth taking a pics of.

suspension

rear axle were its gona go

Mmm... volvo portals.. I like :D

Nice work! But what is that pipe bender doing in the background. Dont tell me you bent all the tube with a PIPE bender. :D :p

Originally posted by 74_Chevota
Nice work! But what is that pipe bender doing in the background. Dont tell me you bent all the tube with a PIPE bender. :D :p

Yea I don't know why people spend the big bucks on them fancy tube benders.

























































the kink-O-matic in the back ground is just for making fine adjustments.:flipoff2:

What is this thing........:confused:

that would be an air strut

Originally posted by whitebrowithafro
What is this thing........:confused:
My guess is thats the TOP SECRET air strut, or a cover built to keep us from seeing it.........

Originally posted by Air Ride
that would be an air strut

I thought that was the flux capacitor... :confused: :flipoff2:

Nice, lookin' good.

Originally posted by stomper4x4

My guess is thats the TOP SECRET air strut, or a cover built to keep us from seeing it.........

or..

http://www.techsavvy.com/industry/file/national/03v3j/cyl05.html?id=121392&comp_id=03V3J&base_region=*

This is gonna be interesting.

Originally posted by Air Ride


the kink-O-matic in the back ground is just for making fine adjustments.:flipoff2:


so the german made $50k mandrel CNC bender just gets it close and you use the $129.00 china made harbor freight pipe bender to fine tune it ? :flipoff2:

so the german made $50k mandrel CNC bender just gets it close and you use the $129.00 china made harbor freight pipe bender to fine tune it ?

That's exactly what I was thinking...:D

I know you've been slaving away on that thing....let's see some update pics :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aaronn
[B]I know you've been slaving away on that thing....let's see some update pics :D


YEA MIKE!

Originally posted by Air Ride
that would be an air strut

To get ride height squared away? Or is it going to be apart of the application? Looks good BTW :D

Originally posted by camo

so the german made $50k mandrel CNC bender just gets it close and you use the $129.00 china made harbor freight pipe bender to fine tune it ? :flipoff2:

That's funnay shit right there. Any updates on this?

Originally posted by DemoMike


or..

http://www.techsavvy.com/industry/file/national/03v3j/cyl05.html?id=121392&comp_id=03V3J&base_region=*

This is gonna be interesting.



Never seen one used as a strut before, but my dumptruck has one on the back and it's used to open and close the pneumatic tail gate locks. Didn't realize they had enough stroke to be used for a strut.

Originally posted by 44Runner


That's funnay shit right there. Any updates on this?

Its finished, he's got a whole new thread about testing it out now.

Keep up:flipoff2:

working on the sub-frame lately, lower link mounts.

x

x

Nice x-member:D

Wow, great job!

:eek: wow. very nice

That crossmember is awesome, keep up the nice work.

Are those parts laser cut or are you actually milling that shit? (If laser cut, is it someone local (SLO county)?)

Originally posted by DemoMike
Are those parts laser cut or are you actually milling that shit? (If laser cut, is it someone local (SLO county)?)


I believe the holes are made by a "dimple dye". I could have the name
wrong, but basically it punches the holes and also curves the hole edges to add
strength. He uses the same process on the motor mounts he sells for Formula Toys.

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ



I believe the holes are made by a "dimple dye". I could have the name
wrong, but basically it punches the holes and also curves the hole edges to add
strength. He uses the same process on the motor mounts he sells for Formula Toys.

Those holes there arent actually dimpled, they were probably punched with an iron worker or maybe the cut them out with the cutter also. I don't remember who's it was, but I've seen pics of camo using a cnc plas cutter, so maybe it was airrides?

Yeah, I forgot about the plasma cutter. I think dimples (not in this case, but all the Camo stuff was dimpled (more progess pics Camo!) are pressed after the holes are cut. Confirmation, Mike?

These prototype pieces we are cutting out on the mill. Production pieces will be punched or laser cut.

the UPS man comith

:D

BAAAAAA-LIIIIIING

:eek:

and Im not talking about the ziptied on fan shroud :flipoff2:

also made a trip up to AA in paso and picked up one of these.

Originally posted by Air Ride
:D

i am in love

:eek:

HOLY S!!!! THAT IS BAD!!!!!!!!

No really cool rig. Keep it up.

Damn Mike, that's some SERIOUS BLING. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Are you going to have it ready for the Jambo?

What kind of turbo is that on there ?

Dave

Originally posted by Pdaddy
BAAAAAA-LIIIIIING




WORD!

Originally posted by DaveWFO
What kind of turbo is that on there ?

Dave


The big kind :flipoff2:



Its the LC engineering pro turbo kit (T3-T4 hybrid). Supposed to be good for around 250 hp.:D

Originally posted by Air Ride


Its the LC engineering pro turbo kit (T3-T4 hybrid). Supposed to be good for around 250 hp.:D

:shaking: :shaking: :shivering: :shivering:

WOW!!! Gawd, I love it!

subframe/suspension mount.

front lower link mount

another angle

Very nice, should be very light too:D

You've got mad fab skills, I love the crossmembers! What are you using for all of the holes? Holesaw? Press? CNC? I noticed some of the clearanced areas aren't perfect circles so I'm leaning towards CNC. And free handling would take way to long....? Must be nice to have such access to equip like that!!!! Anyway progress looks good, that turbo pretty much puts you in WHITEKNUCKLE offroad territory.

I need to read better, I see you covered the process at TT.

You must have locked Marlin in the house while you took those pics :D

Originally posted by Aaronn
You must have locked Marlin in the house while you took those pics :D

Marlin doesn't stay up past mid night any more. he must be getting old.

Originally posted by BigWoodyWag
You've got mad fab skills, I love the crossmembers! What are you using for all of the holes? Holesaw? Press? CNC? I noticed some of the clearanced areas aren't perfect circles so I'm leaning towards CNC. And free handling would take way to long....? Must be nice to have such access to equip like that!!!! Anyway progress looks good, that turbo pretty much puts you in WHITEKNUCKLE offroad territory.

Thanks, we are cutting everything out on the cnc mill right now but once the design is proved we will have it lazer cut or cnc punched.

damn, you build some cool stuff! anymore info on the lc engineering turbo kit? are you running it on a fatcory 22ret or a 22re motor?

Originally posted by Booger Weldz
damn, you build some cool stuff! anymore info on the lc engineering turbo kit? are you running it on a fatcory 22ret or a 22re motor?


I am putting it on a 22ret. supposed to be good for 100 hp increase in power over the stock turbo. Should put me in the 250 hp range. With a bunch of other LC stuff you can get 450 hp out of this turbo.

you might want to put a couple pillows on the floor under that chiny new turbo :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Aaronn
you might want to put a couple pillows on the floor under that chiny new turbo :flipoff2:

Hopefully the motor wont be falling out again anytime soon. The really funny part about it is Steve (X chassis 001) was just over telling me about how his fell off the jack stand, broke all the tack welds and the motor fell out. 45 minutes later crash. Note to self 1" ratchet straps will not hold up an atlas t-case.

mine or yours ? fawker :flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo
mine or yours ? fawker :flipoff2:

unfortunately it was mine:flipoff2:

Mike, I'm extremely jealous. :flipoff2:

Dude it looks great, gettin me fired up:D

right on mike. looks killer:)

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ
Mike, I'm extremely jealous. :flipoff2:

Maybe you can buy it in a couple years:flipoff2:

front shocks mounted

Originally posted by Wilson


Maybe you can buy it in a couple years:flipoff2:


I doubt I could afford it. :flipoff2:

Will the motor be able to be removed without cutting tube ?

I know toyota motors are good and all :confused:

I want to see what the hood is going to look like, I never had the chance to see what the old Air Ride looked like with the hood on it...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by fatkid
blah blah blah


Look whose back from the dead:flipoff2:

What's up fawker.

And to stay on subject.... very nice work Mike, will it carry my fat ass in the passenger seat?

Originally posted by Kyron
Will the motor be able to be removed without cutting tube ?

I know toyota motors are good and all :confused:


thanks to Pig's tube joints all the tubing that is in the way can be unbolted.

Originally posted by Air Ride



thanks to Pig's tube joints all the tubing that is in the way can be unbolted.

LOL I knew you were smart :D

got any close up pics of how you are using those clamps.

tia

ryan

ps killer fab work :p

Originally posted by 71RCKCRZR RYAN
got any close up pics of how you are using those clamps.

tia

ryan

ps killer fab work :p







yea lets see those pics!

poly performance tube joint

Originally posted by fatkid
I want to see what the hood is going to look like, I never had the chance to see what the old Air Ride looked like with the hood on it...:flipoff2:


LOL :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Air Ride



LOL :flipoff2:


Mike, if you actually have a hood for it, I'd like to have it.

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ



Mike, if you actually have a hood for it, I'd like to have it.

It'll cost you :flipoff2: And we'll probably drive on it anyway:D

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam


It'll cost you :flipoff2: And we'll probably drive on it anyway:D


Only if you like being shot. :flipoff2: j/k
Actually, just about any hood would be nice in the rain.

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ



Only if you like being shot. :flipoff2: j/k
Actually, just about any hood would be nice in the rain.


Rain?? You live in San Diego for christ sake:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by jca



Rain?? You live in San Diego for christ sake:flipoff2: :flipoff2:


Yeah, and it rained on me when I towed out and back to Truckhaven in Feb.
Filled up the aircleaner with water. :rolleyes: I'd also like some protection
for the top tank on the radiator.

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ



Yeah, and it rained on me when I towed out and back to Truckhaven in Feb.
Filled up the aircleaner with water. :rolleyes: I'd also like some protection
for the top tank on the radiator.


Bring it up this weekend. It is not like we wont be out there cutting, grinding and welding all weekend anyway. Not sunday though. I probably have the material to make a hood at the house:D

Hey Mike, can I be the first one to test it out? I swear, I'll treat it like it was my own! :)










No, seriously, why you laughing?

Chris

Originally posted by JeepRecoveryTeam



Look whose back from the dead:flipoff2:

What's up fawker.

And to stay on subject.... very nice work Mike, will it carry my fat ass in the passenger seat?

I'm here everyday, just hanging out it Zuk talk. Fag...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ



Mike, if you actually have a hood for it, I'd like to have it.

Last I checked its been under construction for the last few years. Theres a good story behind it.:)

Originally posted by EMIEVEL
Hey Mike, can I be the first one to test it out? I swear, I'll treat it like it was my own! :)










No, seriously, why you laughing?

Chris

Dude I was laughing so hard and then I read the last line and almost fell out of my chair.

Originally posted by fatkid


Last I checked its been under construction for the last few years. Theres a good story behind it.:)


I kind of figured something like that, but it don't hurt to ask.

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ



I kind of figured something like that, but it don't hurt to ask.


It might still be in his shop, don't know what stage its in though. If you know someone that does fiberglass it would'nt be hard to finish.

Originally posted by Air Ride


Dude I was laughing so hard and then I read the last line and almost fell out of my chair.

Yep, I can just FEEL the love.

Chris

update ?? :D

front link mounts

already thought of a better way to do it though.

that's why you always tack everything

looks good mike, I'll come see ya in a few weeks

how long could a good 22ret last at 450hp? Can the stock bottom end handle this?

Finally finished the front suspension, except for welding it up.

links

more

Looking good Mike... But you had better get busy unless you and Steph plan on walking 4th of July weekend! :flipoff2::flipoff2:

What is your wheelbase and how long are your front links??

Thanks,
Mark.

What is your wheelbase and how long are your front links??

Thanks,
Mark.
lowers are 34" uppers are 28" wheel base is 111" right now shooting for 108".

what did you weld on the joint to allow it to thread in the tube adapter? I like the x-joints, but don't want to just weld a bolt to the outside of it. Also, what material are you running for links? Looks good!

I weld a 2.5" piece of 1" grade 8 allthread.
lowers are 1.75x.250 DOM
uppers are 1.5x.120 DOM

Thanks, are y'all still going to produce them with the stud welded on? I guess I'll just have to buy some all-thread when I order them!

Mike, do you think a peice of 7/8" grade 8 all thread would be strong enough too?

I cope the head of a 1 1/4" grade 8 bolt on the mill and then TIG them on on my own application. It looks good and gives some decent weld surface area too. Just another way of doing it.

Mike, do you think a peice of 7/8" grade 8 all thread would be strong enough too?
I ran 7/8" for years and never had a problem. Just decided to up grade.

Thanks, are y'all still going to produce them with the stud welded on? I guess I'll just have to buy some all-thread when I order them!
Yes, we will are selling them assembled with the studs welded on also.

sweet, cause i have 4 feet of the stuff

:madscientistrubbinghandstogether:

Finally finished the front suspension, except for welding it up.



I want to know how you are gonna get a front shaft in it. Are you you gonna have to use a 2 piece shaft or am I not seeing a way to get it in there.


Toddy

I want to know how you are gonna get a front shaft in it. Are you you gonna have to use a 2 piece shaft or am I not seeing a way to get it in there.


Toddy

that is at full droop, at ride height it will cop that. :flipoff2:

I want to know how you are gonna get a front shaft in it. Are you you gonna have to use a 2 piece shaft or am I not seeing a way to get it in there.


Toddy
yes it wil be a two piece drive shaft. The front drive shaft is almost 4' long.

rear axle housing

I need to get into some sort of program for dimple die addicts

holy crap, is this thing going to be a desert runner of a crawler? thats a gusset and a half.

SEX-AY!!

What thickness metal on the truss material?

holy crap, is this thing going to be a desert runner of a crawler? thats a gusset and a half.
both

actually its a gusset and three quarters

holy crap, is this thing going to be a desert runner of a crawler? .

If you'd ever seen the Benders running to and from the trail you'd understand :D

Looks great Mike :smokin:

nice work mike. comin along. what tire are you planning on running? (may be posted, i didn't look real hard)

Is it my eyes playing tricks, or are all those "dimple-holes" not actually holes,
but mearly dimpled flat stock with no hole-? if yes, were the holes cut, then
dimpled, then filled with a back-side flat stock or something-?

what gives...?

--sherpa

Fawk! That thing looks cool :smokin: Cant wait to see it in action :goofball:

Nice work Mike

If you'd ever seen the Benders running to and from the trail you'd understand :D

Looks great Mike :smokin:


Bunch of fawkin maniacs. :flipoff2:

Mike, the rig is looking REAL good. Can't wait to actually see it on a trail. :D

nice work mike. comin along. what tire are you planning on running? (may be posted, i didn't look real hard)
37 krawlers

SEX-AY!!

What thickness metal on the truss material?
The truss and link mounts are all .120 wall.

"Is it my eyes playing tricks, or are all those "dimple-holes" not actually holes,
but mearly dimpled flat stock with no hole-? if yes, were the holes cut, then
dimpled, then filled with a back-side flat stock or something-?

what gives...?

--sherpa"

The dimples die holes are sealed up with 20 gauge. Don't want it to fill full of dirt

So Mike, do you now have all the parts, or are you still waiting on some ?

Have everything except the steering (waiting for someone to give it to me) and drive shafts. Its just a matter of time now.

I need to get into some sort of program for dimple die addicts



yes you do... but can't blame ya
-- looks great

Damn, that thing is the definition of Bling Bling
Looks great :D

couldnt find a brake pedal I liked so I made my own

:eek: :eek: :beer:

Sweet pedal

couldnt find a brake pedal I liked so I made my own


=============================

dang mike, can i borrow that cnc mill? (not that i'd have a clue as to how to work it. but i'd try. :D )

that pedal gonna be an option for the x chassis? are you gonna send one out to all of us that got one? kinda like the "x" gussets. i think you should. it'd only be right. cause they're D O P E!!!!!

:eek: :eek: :beer:


No kidding. Must be nice to have a full machine shop. :eek:

couldnt find a brake pedal I liked so I made my own


OK, NOW you're just showing off :D. Slick. VERY slick.

WOW!!
:smokin:
Mike, I just followed the build-up thread from the start, very clean...love the attention to detail..that brake pedal is tits. I, like the rest, want to see this rig running but don't get in a hurry and rush this out....way to cool to see things done right without compromising!! When you build that first 4-seater...post pics. I'm starting to save now for 4-seater #2.

so mike, does this mean i'm the first to get an x chassis on the trail? :smokin:

:)

what do you think about the front end design? possible design option? :smokin:

serial # 10






"edit" damb I lost my star :(
I'll post pic when I get my star back

looks killer! Keep it up, cant wait to see how it works on the trail.

Brian

s/n #10

floor

fire wall

thanks Aaron

Finally some not worthy progress finished the pedal assembly today. Haven’t been able to work on it much due to other projects take priority.

are you going to have it done for the jambo Mike? looks bad ass :evil:

more

another

are you going to have it done for the jambo Mike? looks bad ass :evil:
That’s my plan. I won’t have the turbo motor done but I have another motor I can use.

very nice cnc work. Keep the pics comming.

come awn mike. I'm sure there's plenty of people here who want to see your progress.

ok here is the weekends progress

Battery tray
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=174996&stc=1

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=174997&stc=1

Dash

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=174998&stc=1
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=174999&stc=1

Wow....the detail work is so clean. Love all the custom machined pieces.....
Jay

nice work on fire wall and floor! :smokin:

Like those pedals alot!!!

Jason :)

I would really love to see the dash pics....

Rustynuts...any idea what the weight of your rig??? I'm going to bring the race car scales down to Kevin's to get a weight on it--it may start next weekend so we are all excited! Just figuring out how to run and pipe the gas lines/pump properly for the fuel injection/fuel cell combo... Have to remove the inner C's and install the Deadanbar and high steer arms so not looking forward to that!!!

Jason :)

bump for another bender rig on a timeline :D

and here's the dash pics

http://www.tinbenders.org/Forums/ubb/MembersUpload/00000019/dash.JPG

http://www.tinbenders.org/Forums/ubb/MembersUpload/00000019/dash1.JPG

Rustynuts...any idea what the weight of your rig??? I'm going to bring the race car scales down to Kevin's to get a weight on it--it may start next weekend so we are all excited! Just figuring out how to run and pipe the gas lines/pump properly for the fuel injection/fuel cell combo... Have to remove the inner C's and install the Deadanbar and high steer arms so not looking forward to that!!!

Jason :)


=============

sorry for the late response. wedding stuff and a new place of employment's got my head elsewhere.

weighed in at 3400 lbs. just shaved about 100 lbs with new wheels but i know all the goodies that are going in right now is gonna set me back a bit. :D

looking good mike. sheet metal turned out nice.

So is this thing ready for the Hammers yet Mike?? If not, you can ride with me in #004 on Bender Alley and co-lead the trail :flipoff2:

Everything looks pimp so far. Inspiring.

So is this thing ready for the Hammers yet Mike?? If not, you can ride with me in #004 on Bender Alley and co-lead the trail :flipoff2:

Everything looks pimp so far. Inspiring.

Camo is leading Bender Alley ;)

So is this thing ready for the Hammers yet Mike?? If not, you can ride with me in #004 on Bender Alley and co-lead the trail :flipoff2:

Everything looks pimp so far. Inspiring.




I may need to take you up on that if Camo doesn’t get busy and fix Lisa’s rig.

I may need to take you up on that if Camo doesn’t get busy and fix Lisa’s rig.


i am ready to go right now :D

How many competing F-Toys are going on that trail? Camo, Hobie and Sean? Then an X chassis and my f-toy, too. :D

i don't know....depends whose junk still works on sunday :D

i am ready to go right now :D

Cool

I know I only get to drive it down the steep slide on the back side of bender ally.

#004 has the best sounding exhaust, guaranteed :flipoff2: I miss her, but the house I just signed for today is worth it! Throw some sand, rock and dust for me Brandon :)

BTT

Its been a year Mike. Lets see some updates!!!:D

Its at powder coating, New Corvette Yellow. With post up when I get it back. To much cool stuff to post then. :)

Ok finaly got the time to go and pick it up from the poweder coater.

This is the fun stuff.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=242633&stc=1&d=1146296185
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=242634&stc=1&d=1146296185
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=242635&stc=1&d=1146296185

more cool stuff
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=242636&stc=1&d=1146296509
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=242637&stc=1&d=1146296509

mike that looks killer. i wish i had my bike, i would ride up tommorrow just take a look see:)

Lookin good Mike, Keep the pics coming.
Robert

For the guy who practically invented the paintless tube buggy.... Looks good Mike. Wish I could call anything I own done enough to paint it. Can't wait to see it together.

Rusty

more cool stuff
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=242636&stc=1&d=1146296509

What exactly am I looking at?

What exactly am I looking at?

Its a Camo Blocker

A rear view mirror. 4 of them as a matter a fact



edit: Thats funny

Bearing support

A rear view mirror. 4 of them as a matter a fact



edit: Thats funny
Okay, I saw the inclination of the A-pillars and thought it was the rear.
Makes sense now.

What exactly am I looking at?


You must have missed Southern Cal in 1983! Have you never seen a wink mirror?:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :smokin:

Wow thats a nice color. Nice work

Overhead console

Air strut
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I hope your HAM holds up for you. We have been having really bad luck with the mics on the ICOM's. Neither of the original mics worked after about 9 months in the rigs.

Ryan

I hope your HAM holds up for you. We have been having really bad luck with the mics on the ICOM's. Neither of the original mics worked after about 9 months in the rigs.

Ryan

Interesting, desertoys just crapped out on him last weekend as well:(

So far the lower end ICOM mic has been holding up, but you can't do any of the programming with it. Since it has only been the PTT button that has been dying on the factory mic, we have to keep that mic in the rig as well if we need to set new channels, etc. I just installed a Vertex in the tow rig yesterday. We will see if it holds up better.

Ryan

Rig is looking great...keep the pics coming!

Jason :)

Overhead console

Nice overhead console! With the 'waterproof' switch boots what are you using on the backside to prevent the whole console to fill with water if you get rained on? Do you have a top for this beast or is the console sealed from the top arleady?

-Todd

Its puurrwdy!

Nice overhead console! With the 'waterproof' switch boots what are you using on the backside to prevent the whole console to fill with water if you get rained on? Do you have a top for this beast or is the console sealed from the top arleady?

-Todd
Thanks, there will be an aluminum top covering the back side.

Any Progress???

THREAD HIJACK


ICOM Was REALLY cool about replacing the mic on my radio for free. I shipped them mine, they shipped me a new one the day they received it. Kick ass serivce.

Got the axles and suspension assembled.
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ok soooo can you get that thing sittin on 3 wheels like snoop dogg? I know that was hydros, but I'm confused with air struts... with air struts will the axle stay in a compressed postition if the others had more pressure and were at full extension? Liking the suspension mike...very cool and different

So does the latch between the taillights open a top cover or does the panel with the lights in it hinge down? That is a latch/handle right?

It opens the top cover to get at the batteries and fuel cell.

that's :grinpimp:

just drove by your shop. should have stopped by and :eek:

finally got it off the stand.
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hittin switches ... nice

sweet :smokin: more info on the struts

Amazing!! I bet you are stoked!

Cool, now you can drive over rocks and not even touch them:laughing:

awesome job mike! i can't wait to see it run

any new work mike :confused:

bump...Awesome job.. :smokin:

yea will you have to adjust it over everything or is it like a normal suspension thats adjustable?

The suspension is adjustable in cab, but you don’t have to adjust it while wheeling unless you want to change the ride height or pull the suspension in like with a winch.

You need to enter this for the Top Truck Challenge

fawkin shit those air struts are SA-WEEEET! very nice rig...:smokin:

So this was the thread that got me thinkin about usin those pneumatic rams but I ended up with air bags instead. How do they ride? Whats the Bore? Do you oil up the air b4 pushing it in there? Is the bottom open and you just conpress the top? What the stroke? What did they cost you?

Linky for the completed rig thread:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=519537

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=268559&stc=1&d=1161324262

Very, very nice work! :smokin:

So this was the thread that got me thinkin about usin those pneumatic rams but I ended up with air bags instead. How do they ride? Whats the Bore? Do you oil up the air b4 pushing it in there? Is the bottom open and you just conpress the top? What the stroke? What did they cost you?
The bore is 4" @ 14" stroke. Cost is about $350 each.
The struts work like hydraulic cylinders, you can pressurize either side of the piston. This gives ride height adjustment, spring rate adjustment and allows each wheel to be pulled in independently, like with a winch on the axle. Also by pressurizing both side of the piston you get the effect of an infinitely adjustable sway bar.
So far it works great crawling and speeding down dirt roads. I have yet to test it in the woops.

congrats mike!!!!!! she's a bute!

test them whoops out yet?

why did you need the air shocks in the front too? couldnt a pair of regular shocks work just as well?

why did you need the air shocks in the front too? couldnt a pair of regular shocks work just as well?
There are two big advantages to using the air shock over a standard shock. First the air shock provides extra spring rate incase the struts should fail. Second I run the air shocks with fairly low pressure and high oil volume so they also act as a progressive bump stop.

do the rams have a cushion on each end? if they do, that would act as a bump stop anyway. How much weight are the rams supporting then if you have the air shocks on there too? Im considering switching from my air bags to the rams and have 12 inch travel MX6-R shocks on them, do you think this would be a good idea?

Each ram is capable of supporting 1500 lbs. They have cushions, but they only come in at the last 1/2" of travel. So they are totally inadequate for bumps stops.

"Im considering switching from my air bags to the rams and have 12 inch travel MX6-R shocks on them, do you think this would be a good idea?"

Not sure if thats a good idea or not.

Bringing this back from the dead because of your other thread. Would there be anything wrong with using a hydro cylinder for this? I think it would be a cool idea to try but $350/cylinder is kinda up there for having to throw air shocks at it besides.

I think the only problem that hydro cylinders would have is the lack of progressive spring rate. I know the low riders ive seen ride like crap because the hydraulic fluid doesnt have any give compared to air bags, I dont know if there is anything you can get which will give you that affect with hydraulics.

Ha, no, I meant using air in a hydraulic cylinder. You'd have to run an air charged accumulator or something similar to get any flex out of a setup filled with hydraulic fluid.

Also, I was thinking it over and how would you retain independent control of all four corners and still have the ability to pressurize the bottom of the actuator and lift up a tire? That'd require some fancy plumbing or 8 seperate solenoids wouldn't it?

Ha, no, I meant using air in a hydraulic cylinder. You'd have to run an air charged accumulator or something similar to get any flex out of a setup filled with hydraulic fluid.

Also, I was thinking it over and how would you retain independent control of all four corners and still have the ability to pressurize the bottom of the actuator and lift up a tire? That'd require some fancy plumbing or 8 seperate solenoids wouldn't it?

a buddy of mine did this on the street. hydraulic cylinders with co2, all that was necessary to do was change the seals on the piston to a "booted" type seal....I can't remember the exact name for them.

it worked fine but would wear the seals out quickly. possibly due to the high psi. he was running unregulated. i'm guessing that at normal pressure levels they'll work fine.

goferit! :smokin:

edit:

just re-read your post. if you ran a 4-position solenoid at each cylinder you would then only need to run a single airline to each corner, the solenoid would control the rest including dump.

this is a bigass thread hijack btw. :D

He's using pneumatic actuators for springs, I just want to know more about them. :flipoff2:

Bringing this back from the dead...Would there be anything wrong with using a hydro cylinder for this?

uh...

Ha, no, I meant using air in a hydraulic cylinder...Also, I was thinking it over and how would you retain independent control of all four corners and still have the ability to pressurize the bottom of the actuator and lift up a tire? That'd require some fancy plumbing or 8 seperate solenoids wouldn't it?

uh.....

He's using pneumatic actuators for springs, I just want to know more about them. :flipoff2:

wtf? i know what a fawking pneumatic actuator is.... :shaking:

you specifically asked about hydraulic cylinders used with air. and that's what i answered numbnuts. :homer:

that's what i get for answering some stupid newbie's question. :flipoff2:

You said it was a jack, I said it was still pretty on topic given his suspension setup. Clear? :flipoff2:

back from the dead

re-powder coated the wheels

Was hoping to see it at Surf n Turf.

That looks ALOT better. Just what yor rig needed to finish it off.

On the practical side..... was powder coating in a crinkle finish covered in this thread ?

crinkle finish powder coat = Air leaks :(