: More "PC" Bullsh!t


SanDiegoCJ
01-25-2004, 07:49 AM
This stoopid sh!t is REALLY pissing me off. :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:
Schools aren't publishing the names of students who make the
honor roll because other students who didn't make might have
"hurt feelings". WTF is wrong these idiots ???


DRM, your comments, since it's in your area.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/news/news_1n25privacy.html


Nashville schools ditch honor rolls, cite privacy

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By Matt Gouras
ASSOCIATED PRESS

January 25, 2004


NASHVILLE, Tenn. – The school honor roll, a time-honored system for rewarding A students, has become an apparent source of embarrassment for some underachievers.

As a result, all Nashville schools have stopped posting honor rolls, and some are considering a ban on hanging good work in the hallways – all at the advice of school lawyers.

After a few parents complained that their children might be ridiculed for not making the list, Nashville school-system lawyers warned that state privacy laws forbid releasing any academic information, good or bad, without permission.

Some schools have since put a stop to academic pep rallies. Others think they may have to cancel spelling bees. And now schools across the state may follow Nashville's lead.

The change has upset many parents who want their children recognized for hard work.

"This is as backward as it gets," said Miriam Mimms, who has a son at Meigs Magnet School and helps run the Parent Teacher Association. "There has to be a way to come back from the rigidity."

The problem appears unique to Tennessee, since most states follow federal student-privacy guidelines, which allow the release of such things as honor rolls, Department of Education officials said.

"It's the first time I've heard of schools doing that," department spokesman Jim Bradshaw said.

But Nashville school lawyers based their decision last month on a state privacy law dating to the 1970s – a law that's not always followed because no one challenged the honor-roll status quo.

School officials are developing permission slips to give parents of the Nashville district's 69,000 students the option of having their children's work recognized. They hope to get clearance before the next grading cycle, in about six weeks at some schools.

Until then, school principals are left trying to figure out what they can and can't do.

Sandy Johnson, chief instructional officer for the Nashville schools, says the restrictions go "far beyond the honor roll."

"It's for anything having to do with grades and attendance, or anything normally reserved just for the student or parent," she said.

Getting parents to sign permission slips won't help protect students from being left out, but at least it will comply with the law, school officials said.

Christy Ballard, general counsel for the state Education Department, said she has been "getting a lot of calls" since the Nashville decision and will recommend that all Tennessee public schools get honor-roll permission slips from parents.

In Knoxville, school district spokesman Russ Oaks said they do not think posting good information about a student violates state law. He said they put such information in the same category as sports statistics.

But some school systems already get parents to sign a release before student information is made public. Others think it might be a good idea to get rid of the honor roll altogether, as Principal Steven Baum did at Julia Green Elementary in Nashville.

"The rationale was, if there are some children that always make it and others that always don't make it, there is a very subtle message that was sent," he said.

Baum thinks spelling bees and other publicly graded events are leftovers from the days of ranking and sorting students.

"I discourage competitive games at school," he said. "They just don't fit my worldview of what a school should be."

Parents at most schools, though, have been close to outrage over the new rule.

"So far, what we've heard parents say is, 'This is crazy; spend your time doing other things,' " said Teresa Dennis, principal at Percy Priest Elementary School. "It does seem really silly."

A similar issue over student privacy went to the U.S. Supreme Court two years ago, when some parents objected to students grading each other's work. The court sided with tradition in that case, ruling that the long-standing practice of teachers' asking students to swap papers and grade them in class does not violate federal privacy law.

"It's not always clear what falls into (the privacy laws)," said Naomi Gittins, an attorney with the National School Boards Association.






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stRanger
01-25-2004, 07:55 AM
maybe they should list the dumbasses that didn't make honor roll:flipoff2:

animator
01-25-2004, 08:06 AM
If you stop rewarding good behavior, you might as well stop expecting it...

DEnd
01-25-2004, 08:18 AM
WTF???? I rmember when I was rediculed for making the Honor roll. so I didn't get on it agian. :flipoff2:

Gen. Nonsense
01-25-2004, 08:36 AM
Next thing you know theyre gonna stop handing out those "My student is on the Honor Roll at [Insert school here]", because the parents feelings might be hurt

rockota
01-25-2004, 09:07 AM
This is f'n stupid...

Pretty soon it will be no more validictorian
Then it will be no more grades at all
Then employers won't be able to pay an educated person more than an uneducated.
Then employers will not be able to interview or hire a skilled worker over an unskilled
Then...

Then...

Where the fawk does it stop?

How many times does a person need to be told that the Bill of Rights never states "you have the right to never be offended"????

76Cruiser
01-25-2004, 10:05 AM
Welcome to liberalism in the USA. Here are some of the rules.

1. This is the main one. Nothing is ever your fault.

2. It is OK to inconvenience the vast majority or take away their rights as long as the minority is happy.

3. Rich people (anyone above the poverty line) are inherently evil, and it is OK to take their money away to give it to these poor downtrodden masses who should not be expected to work.

4. Offending someone is the worst possible thing that could ever happen.

5. We should never make someone feel like a loser. So we won't keep score at kid's sporting events, and we won't allow anyone that is exceptional to be recognized. That way everyone can feel happy inside all the time.

trampas
01-25-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by animator
If you stop rewarding good behavior, you might as well stop expecting it...

bingo!

fawkin society today... :shaking:

doc_obtuse
01-25-2004, 02:12 PM
Friggin' pathetic...


"Hey Bob...I know you didn't have the skills and dedication to complete that report I asked you for, but, just so you don't feel left out; here's a participation award and a raise."


:mad:

Hef
01-25-2004, 02:18 PM
If you're kid doesn't make the honor roll then too goddamn bad. The problem isn't the honor roll, it's your dumbass kid.

Fawking whiners. :rolleyes: