Ok, I've heard about some pretty serious racing machines this weekend... A Supra, an Eclipse, etc..... So I need to give the Corolla a little more power! Stats and what I've done so far:

1989 16valve motor, carbureted
<li>removed the cat
<li>running on 110 Octane Unocal race fuel
<li>advanced the timing as far as it would go (not very far :( )
<li>Opened up the air cleaner cover for better breathing

So what else can I do (cheaply)? What about hotter spark plugs? This motor/car doesn't have to last forever, so reliability isn't really a concern.....

You can take of the Cam belt and give the Cam a few extra deg's of timing, thats always good for like 10 hp, but will take a while to do

TRACTION, last year even the puniest were spinnin the tires and this year doesnt look good for traction. Find some tires that will hook up and you will WIN

Originally posted by smurfsdad
TRACTION, last year even the puniest were spinnin the tires and this year doesnt look good for traction. Find some tires that will hook up and you will WIN

Problem is, there aren't many options in the 13" tire field... I can't really go with bigger tires because they would hit the coils/struts. I do have some traction aiding tricks implemented that I can't discuss because of spies on the board. :D

change pulleys to wrecker donor car pulleys that are smaller. don't know what will work though have to do some looking around. or disconect all the extra stuff you don't need a/c , pull the fan through in donor electric fan.

i have 4 near new dunlop 13 inch street tires in the shed that you can have to create whatever you want with

Well, the other side of the coin is to reduce weight...

gut it as much as possible, scrap everything you don't absoloutely need.

For traction..maybe some of that "tire treatment" stuff?

Originally posted by BillaVista
Well, the other side of the coin is to reduce weight...

gut it as much as possible, scrap everything you don't absoloutely need.


I've done that. :D:D
<img src="http://www.pirate4x4.com/lance/racecar/Image004.jpg">
The interior is completely gutted.... The non essentials are GONE. The rear doors are gutted. They are merely skins. The trunk is the same. The engine also lost the A/C pump, and put on an electric fan I had layin' around. I can lift this car over a foot off the ground. It is LIGHT.

So what about hotter plugs? Would that wake up the racefuel?

TOP.

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Ok, how about this for the straightaways -
Mounting a can of starter fluid in between the seats with a vaccum hose attached to it.... A little "squirt" while wide open... :confused: Poor man's nitrous. :D

are studded tires legal in this race?

better grip on the track for sure:flipoff2:

there is nothing cheap and easy, the race fuel is essentially of no help. its only worth is when high compression is added to the equation. and being as the throttle will be wide open most of the time you are actually better off with colder plugs

USED NITROUS SET UP FROM A SWAP MEET.:nuke: :D

A little "squirt" while wide open... Poor man's nitrous.



its worth a try

That thing looks cool! Go Ivan go!

Sounds like you've done all you can. Just drink more :beer:, it'll make ya faster :D I mean, uh, the day before the race drink more :beer:

Lance try a double coil setup. (Traction) Try somthing like I did for smow run.:D

Originally posted by Lance


I've done that. :D:D
<img src="http://www.pirate4x4.com/lance/racecar/Image004.jpg">
The interior is completely gutted.... The non essentials are GONE. The rear doors are gutted. They are merely skins. The trunk is the same. The engine also lost the A/C pump, and put on an electric fan I had layin' around. I can lift this car over a foot off the ground. It is LIGHT.

So what about hotter plugs? Would that wake up the racefuel?


Now if you could get the driver weight, down to about the same as the car youd be ulra light.:flipoff2:

Do you really need the hood, tube bumper, and fenders? That could be a few Lbs. Is the sound insulation tar still on the floor? Pop out the wind shild and wear goggles. Ditch the gas tank for somthing that will only hold enough for the race plus some. Does it have a dash? Do you need one? What about disconecting the power steering? Since it is so light do you need that?

Originally posted by Eddie Mcstiff
Do you really need the hood, tube bumper, and fenders? That could be a few Lbs. Is the sound insulation tar still on the floor? Pop out the wind shild and wear goggles. Ditch the gas tank for somthing that will only hold enough for the race plus some. Does it have a dash? Do you need one? What about disconecting the power steering? Since it is so light do you need that?

Have you lost your mind. Thats to keep the (rats) sabatoures out.Anything goes when the:beer: flows at this event:flipoff2:

:idea: Hows about mixing a little nitromethane into the fuel. That should give you a boost. :evil::smokin:

It's a ricer, so I would go with yellow stripes(5hp gain to the rear wheels, I mean front) and BIG stickers at an angle across the hood and down the fenders.:D :D

Go with my suggestions and you can't lose:smokin:

You guys must have sooo much fun doing this. We used to go
and buy $100 clunkers every so on and just go out and bash em
till they were dead. (Usually about 1-2 weeks) of road driving.
It was all in fun. We only "derbied" the cars when they were
already close to going under.

But I have to know, since all of you guys "must" be very competetive, I have to know the answer to a question:

Are some of you so serious you'd almost drive over your
grandmother to get 2nd place? I have a few freinds who
race go-karts at one guys house. A few of the guys are soo
into it, they'd almost kill their buddy to get 1st place.
All in fun mind you, but most of us have to go to work the
next day, and most have families and such.

So, who is the "kill to win" racer in your group Lance?

--Sherpa


I wish Troy's party was "open-invitation" because it would be a
total blast just to come up and watch you nuts race!

just a thought about traction:

How about using some cable-type snow chains?

not too sure about the safety of that though.....

--Sherpa

Watch "Fast and the Furious", those guys were professionals :rolleyes:

You don't need to lose the weight of the passenger seat, instead add some hinges, and hide the EFI computer in there :D

Oh, better put EFI on first...or you can use the VERY old carb computer :flipoff2:

Originally posted by SHERPA RIG

So, who is the "kill to win" racer in your group Lance?


Everyone. :D:D:D:D


I wish Troy's party was "open-invitation" because it would be a
total blast just to come up and watch you nuts race!

You can come, if you'd like. PM for directions. :)

Lance, Kill the wheels and tires and shoot for a FX16 Corolla tires, wider and better traction, had one and it would go fast....don't know about the starter fluid, to much and you burn holes in the pistion. Try increasing the alchol content in your motor and if you do go with the starter fluid idea keep it simple and use it under the carb in a vacuum port with a check valve.....

Headers, I think there the biggest bolt on gain you can get. There easy to make, and you be able to tell .:)

Originally posted by Lance
Ok, how about this for the straightaways -
Mounting a can of starter fluid in between the seats with a vaccum hose attached to it.... A little "squirt" while wide open... :confused: Poor man's nitrous. :D

How about a proven, cheap, NOS idea??? One of my friends took a can of that Computer/Keyboard cleaner and ran a line of it to his intake on his SBC, that stuff is real n02!!!! :eek: Don't tell anyone, but he used it to ditch a UHP cop after he was pulled over!

Originally posted by Pazuzu
Watch "Fast and the Furious", those guys were professionals :rolleyes:

You don't need to lose the weight of the passenger seat, instead add some hinges, and hide the EFI computer in there :D

Oh, better put EFI on first...or you can use the VERY old carb computer :flipoff2:

Thats it!!! The Fast and the Furious is your answer!!! Shave your head like Vin Diesel...thats all you need to do! You may not win but the chicks REALLY dig big guys with bald heads!! Ok...maybe not all chicks...but alot of us do!! ;) :roxy:

(don't forget the coffee can exhaust! lol)

Fart pipe and stickers are good for at least 60, 65 horse.:D TRY intimidation like a sticker on the back that says" If you pass me your :rainbow: "

200 M.P.H. tape your grill for more down force itll help you turn better you might be pretty loose but in front wheel drive itll just make you harder to pass:D I sure would like to see this festivity:beer:

ok some of you might think im nuts BUT hook your washer fluid pump to a vacuum port. with a fluid swtich of some sort, washer fluid has alcohol in it. soo, basicly its a cheap water injection system. should net a few horses, just dont do to much that you hydro lock the motor. then when you get there open the valve a little bit and when you want a more power hit the windsheld washer switch and it turns into a alcohol burning motor.

Originally posted by Lance


Problem is, there aren't many options in the 13" tire field... I can't really go with bigger tires because they would hit the coils/struts. I do have some traction aiding tricks implemented that I can't discuss because of spies on the board. :D

Borrow a Grooving Iron:D

And Get lots of chrome , and one of them coffee cans:D

Originally posted by Lance
Ok, how about this for the straightaways -
Mounting a can of starter fluid in between the seats with a vaccum hose attached to it.... A little "squirt" while wide open... :confused: Poor man's nitrous. :D

That won't work. Shooting ether into the engine will cause detonation and will actually make you lose power. Try nitromethane it WILL make a difference.

You could pull the head and deck it with a DA sander to increase compression.

Adding more fuel will do nothing for you if you can't burn it.

Remove the header and flip it over. Cut a hole in the hood for it to expel spent gasses. Cool flames are a free bonus!!!

Jet the carb up one or two notches. If you can's get jets for it boring the old ones larger with a drill bit will work, be careful

5w 30 or 0w 30 oil

check the local tire places. snow tires like blizzaks make great short lived tires

studding tires with sheet metal screws is cool

if your REALLY bored index the plugs

what is cheap? :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=599751342

You want to win? Let kelly drive!!!!! LOL

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Daniel
SPRAY BLEACH ON THE TIRES!


Living proof... Once a newbie, always a newbie.:rolleyes:
Bleach only works on asphalt.


:idea: That's it!! With everyone setting up their cars for the dirt, you could go and pave the course!!!

Mount a seat in the back and have a co-piolet armed with a paint ball gun, crate of eggs,bowling balls,better yet paint eggs,shotgun with katsup loads,empty :beer: cans,anything that might distract the other drivers.

Definatly needs a big 'TYPE R '
sticker and a big honkin wing .
maybe a leafblower forced induction system:eek:
I've got the coffee can exhaust tip you need , but with all those mods you may pass out from the g-forces:smokin:

Originally posted by Lance


Problem is, there aren't many options in the 13" tire field... I can't really go with bigger tires because they would hit the coils/struts. I do have some traction aiding tricks implemented that I can't discuss because of spies on the board. :D

There are more options in the 13" tire field than you'd think.

Originally posted by Big Bad Pete


There are more options in the 13" tire field than you'd think.

Not at the local junkyard. :(

Ok, so it looks like the ether idea isn't going to work... I don't have time to remove the head, etc. I guess I will run it as is, and rely on the force to guide me to victory. :vader::vader::vader::rolleyes::D

Lance, old racing trick, side gap the plugs :D

http://performanceunlimited.com/illustrations/index.html

:D :D :D :D

Originally posted by Lance


Not at the local junkyard. :(

Ok, so it looks like the ether idea isn't going to work... I don't have time to remove the head, etc. I guess I will run it as is, and rely on the force to guide me to victory. :vader::vader::vader::rolleyes::D

So U R gona let Kelly drive.

Originally posted by Broncrick
Lance, old racing trick, side gap the plugs :D

http://performanceunlimited.com/illustrations/index.html

Finally something useful! Thanks! :D:D:D:D

Originally posted by Lance



Ok, so it looks like the ether idea isn't going to work... I don't have time to remove the head, etc. I guess I will run it as is, and rely on the force to guide me to victory. :vader::vader::vader::rolleyes::D

You could use the aerosol whip cream. It uses nos for the propellant. Just keep the can up right so you don't shoot the cream into your engine. :eek:

I've done that.

NOT! I see a big ugly bumper, lights, windhield wipers, glass, too much bodywork....and I'm not even warmed up

I mean GUT IT ! get it!:smokin:

Originally posted by BillaVista


NOT! I see a big ugly bumper, lights, windhield wipers, glass, too much bodywork....and I'm not even warmed up

I mean GUT IT ! get it!:smokin:

Ok, let me explain this "race"..... It's FULL CONTACT. Meaning, if someone is on my ass, he can and WILL ram me as hard as he can to get me out of his way. Thus the need for a nice stout bumper up front (for when it's my turn to ram :D ). If two cars are side by side, you can bet there will be some sheet metal contact. ;) The races also run into the night, so the lights are also necessary. It's raining cats and dogs here, but if it stops, the windsheild will definitely be going BYE BYE. :D

A few pics from last year's race to give you an idea:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/scrap/new_years2001/

by running 110 octane race fuel you can actually loose power. the oxygenated fuels used today will produce 1-2% more power than race fuel ,unless you got that ricer' head (its a straight 4, right?) milled like .200:eek: for more compression:nuke:
side gap sparkplugs, straight exhaust (i liked the reverse mount idea) and "cheater" ice racing tires (atleast 3/4 studs), a paintgun could be used as an "i'll take you with me!" option

just my .02:usa:

Cut the floor of the bed out and the second side wall (I think there are two on those trucks). Cut the floor out and put expanded metal or plexiglas in. Take the inner fenders out of the front and the rear. KEEP THE FRONT BUMPER! cause bumpin is racin! I like the windshield wiper idea. But I don't like the windshield wiper fluid. Throw some carb cleaner in there! Got MSD? I have a box you can borrow. You have to modify it to get it to work w/ a four banger, but as long as you change it back you can use it.

go to little motor for lance:D :D :D :D :bounce: :bounce2: :bounce:

Originally posted by Sweet75
Cut the floor of the bed out and the second side wall (I think there are two on those trucks).

Hahaha, how can they help you Lance when they don't even know it's a car :D :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2: :D

run thicker plug wiring like 16 mm. .build your self an intake.,make sure the gas stays cool. Run a bigger carb or thorble body injecter.If all else fails run NOS. 150 shot or so. I got some for $400 if you want.

Shoot nitrous man it is real cheap and you get alot of horses outta it hell put a 50 shot or hell go with a 150 shot of it haha

500 HORSE NITROUS SHOT

Originally posted by Heepkiller
make sure the gas stays cool.

that is actually a great idea and cheap too! run a wooden 1" spacer between the carb and intake. it wll help power and wood difuses heat extreamly well and you can make one for a buck and a half


good idea heepkiller....:beer:

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Originally posted by zakk


that is actually a great idea and cheap too! run a wooden 1" spacer between the carb and intake. it wll help power and wood difuses heat extreamly well and you can make one for a buck and a half


good idea heepkiller....:beer:


Of course it a good idea:D hehe. Say what ever you want but 3 year of racing and working with import race cars you learn a little bit here and there. So lance do you want that NOS. Instand HP.

I think a TYPE R sticker would make it go faster but then the comp knows what you running.:D

Originally posted by Heepkiller


I think a TYPE R sticker would make it go faster but then the comp knows what you running.:D

yes, but remember that you need the YELLOW Type R sticker for maximum power:p :D

no, no, no,...a :rainbow: colored type r sticker fo sho1

3 Words for ya, SMALLBLOCK CHEVY..:grinpimp:

Nitromethane, tough to find in Pollak Pines though. How about a bunch of Cox fuel? They do blend it with some sort of oil though. You are only looking for like a 5% nitro to gas mix.

Originally posted by little blue yota
3 Words for ya, SMALLBLOCK CHEVY..:grinpimp:

thats two words... :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Lance


Everyone. :D:D:D:D



You can come, if you'd like. PM for directions. :)

Originally posted by Steve N
Nitromethane, tough to find in Pollak Pines though. How about a bunch of Cox fuel? They do blend it with some sort of oil though. You are only looking for like a 5% nitro to gas mix.

I can get 25% nitro for my R/C Plane, with it in her she runs like a raped ape. Any good hoby store should have it for less then $25 a gallon.:idea:

Crome, Crome, Crome.....
Get a big Chevy sticker tooo! LOL

I thought the header needed to narrow down some for compression reasons??? the wiper motor could be a good idea if you used the right fuel/getto-nos. If you didn't already scrap the the heater/vent fan inside...take the plumming out and run a flexy hose direct from the fan to the carb. Getto-supercharger...mabie!

I don't know when this all takes place and how much time you have....

We want to see some action pic's to...