Seeing as our dollar is Sheeeeeet and a power tank would cost about $800.00 + by the time it got to OZ who can tell me is their anything special about the fittings or tank used in the kit.

Could all these items be bought from a Welding supplier. I now the hoses are a basic thing but is their anything special about the guages, seals ect.

And for those that do have one what size tank would you recommend.


Thanks

Rhino

I DONT KNOW ABOUT A POWER TANK COSTING 800$$ OR IS THAT A TYPO.....OR AM I THINKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT POWERTANK........THEY ARE ABOUT 300$$$FOR THE KIT ....BOTTLE/REGULATOR/HANDLE/AND COILHOSE....
I DONT THINK THERE IS ANYTHING SPECIAL ABOUT THE PARTS..ITS JUST THE CONVENIANCE??? FACTOR

IKNOW I KNOW I DONT NO HOW 2 SPEL

I am in Australia,

So double your buy price, shipping and all the $ull shi$ taxes we have and it would be more like a $1000.00.

Camo you did reply to this thread and said to try one posted by Slick but I have had no luck. Do you know of what else it would be under.

Thanks

Rhino

OOOHHHHHHH........I UNDERSTAND NOW.......

Originally posted by Fat 65L
I am in Australia,

So double your buy price, shipping and all the $ull shi$ taxes we have and it would be more like a $1000.00.

Camo you did reply to this thread and said to try one posted by Slick but I have had no luck. Do you know of what else it would be under.

Thanks

Rhino
I deleted it cause I tried a search and fore some reason can't find ANYTHING??? Anyway nothing special anyway, just get a bottle I sugest 20lb a regulator that is preset with a spring and needs no gauge to read, cheaper, around 250psi, and u can build one here for under $150. I had 2 of them I sold them, I like a/c compressors more U never run outa air and it's FREE:D go to a welding supply store and they can equip ya.

Thanks Seabass

I though I was seeing things, there one minute gone the next.

So these are just normal regulators for CO2 nothing special.

Thanks

Rhino

Originally posted by Fat 65L
Thanks Seabass

I though I was seeing things, there one minute gone the next.

So these are just normal regulators for CO2 nothing special.

Thanks

Rhino

yup:smokin:

Just get your Co2 refilled at a fire extinguisher company, you'll pay about half of what welding supply houses charge and they have the sheet there, unlike some welding supply houses that need your tank for three days. My 15 lbs tank cost me (US dollars) about 9 bucks to fill.

I haven't looked into getting the bottles and such from the fire guys but it may be a possiblity. The only thing to consider is that the tank needs to have current certification before any licsened place will fill the tanks.

do you think a fire extinguisher would be suitable.

Their obviously has to be a rating to the tank and its construction.

Thanks

Rhino

Originally posted by Fat 65L
do you think a fire extinguisher would be suitable.

Their obviously has to be a rating to the tank and its construction.

Thanks

Rhino

A co2 tank extengisher is perfect. I loved mine. I mounted my regulator where the extengisher hose mounted. Just bought brass fittings. the advantage is u can set ur regulator then hold the handle down like when putting out fires to fill ur tire. Worked AWSOME. To run continuse like an air gun u rap the chain that holds the pull pin around the handle and put the pin back in. This holds the squeeze handle closed for u.

If u use a fire extingesher make sure u have the company cut the dip tube off the extingisher valve. They have a tube that goes to the bottom of the tank on the valve. This is where the Liquid CO2 is... great for fires.... but for us it freeezes, valves air guns, etc.... u want the CO2 from the top of the tank which is not as cold.


Got my tank at the local Dump for a Dollar. Steel heavy as hell tank. cost me 11 dollars American to get it certified. Watch Aluminum tanks. YOu can rub thru them over time and have them blow on u. The Fire extingusher company gave me that warning. Says they here of it happening often on companies that have them tied down in the back of work trucks etc. They vibrate against the metal parts of the tie down etc. Just make sure u put rubber on any metal that is part of how u tie down aluminum bottles.

I traded a spair oxygen tank for mine ( 20 lb ) at a welding supply shop. All I had to pay for was a refill. Then I got a regulator from work. The regulator is for nitrogen but it works great. I can set the pressure to whatever I want. The bottle is the same as what is used in restaurants for the fountain drinks. Then I went to the fire extinguisher co and got a mounting bracket for $30.

A freind had a power tank bottle and now he has the regulator on a standard bottle from a welding supply because he couldnt find anyone that would refill his aluminium bottle.

Originally posted by TJ Chick&Trailhawg
A freind had a power tank bottle and now he has the regulator on a standard bottle from a welding supply because he couldnt find anyone that would refill his aluminium bottle. Whatever crack outlet your friend was taking his aluminium too tell him never go there, they are morons. I can just imagine hat other bogus advice and information they are dolling out. :rolleyes:

I have the aluminium Power Tank, I have NEVER had problems getting filled with either pricey welding supply stores of fire extinguisher companies. As long as it has current certs, there should be NO PROBLEMS.

Whooooa.

What is the part number / application of the regulator you guys are using?

I looked, and can't find, nor can I imagine a wlding co2 reg that flows 10+ cfm @ 90psi. You just don't need that kind of flow for welding, and the reg will either not put out or will freeze up.

I have heard tell of using food supply or baloon filling regulators, but know no details.

C'mon, spill the beans on this regulator stuff.

I looked into the nitrogen regulators that the race car boys use trackside, but they are more $$ than the complete Power tank.

Fat65L - Being Canadian I am in a similar situation..tho shipping not quite as bad, but still land of the weak dollar anh high tax.

I ended up assembling everything locally except the regulator, and buying just the reg from Steve at Power tank for $120 US.

try some of the a/c supply stores. they sell a kit like a power tank that is used to blow out drains. they will have a high pressure regulator mine goes to 400 psi. the problem is you cant hold it on a valve stem set up over 250. mike

I got my regulator at Williams Balloons and Helium..model #150,150psi spring..25.00$,can get custom ones made..Santa Maria CA,805 922 0564
I got an aluminum tank from www.marinedepot.com 10lb,89.00 $

use an Oxygen regulator with steel diaphram, (Harris or Airco), buddy of mine got one for $15 off ebay and it has 200psi output.

OK...it's not the PRESSURE I'm concerned about for crying out loud...it's the FLOW RATE it can handle, and specificaly without freezing up with prolonged use when used with the cold CO2 setup.

Rusty POS - thnks, i actually found your page a week too late! You're so far the only one who can actually supply specifics.

Can you run air tools with yours with any freeze up problems?

I havent had any problems with it freezing up..but all I have done with it has been intermitant...I've done stuff like change all 4 tires with an impact,misc. work under the hood with an air ratchet and blow the dust out of my cab..if I wasn't worried about room I would have gotten a 20lb tank instead of the 10lb...seems like I fill it up every trip.....

there used to be tons of write ups on this but I guess they're all gone...(slick had a good one)

Originally posted by BillaVista
OK...it's not the PRESSURE I'm concerned about for crying out loud...it's the FLOW RATE it can handle, and specificaly without freezing up with prolonged use when used with the cold CO2 setup.

The STEEL DIAPHRAM oxygen regulators run AIR TOOLS without FREEZING up, I don't KNOW what THE flow RATE is but it is ADEQUATE for the COLD CO2. Notice I didn't mention PRESSURE this time BECAUSE I didn't want to IRRITATE you anymore while trying to OFFER a cheap SOLUTION.:flipoff2:

Hayraker...sorry, blew right past your post...too busy being annoyed I guess:flipoff2:

Steel diaphragm 02 reg..that's good, very helpful...

Do they come with the correct fitting for the co2 tank, or are adapters needed

Thanks

:flipoff2:

Bill - Heavy duty o2 reg will work great, it's what I use on my second setup, which runs 1/2" impact just fine. You will have to get a CGA 320 tank fitting though to change out the o2 fitting with. Also good time to get a few extra fiber washers for between the tank and the fitting - I am always losing those.

http://www.acklandsgrainger.com/images/items/UNWRV8010.jpg off of this page:http://www.acklandsgrainger.com/acklands?S_appName=agi&S_itemCode=UNWRVT8010&I_actionId=34&L_sessionCode=zib71m4g8wv8&S_pageNo=1160&I_sessionId=13774
For a cheapo setup like my first one, just go see your local Pepsi/Coke resturant service dept - I got my reg. and tank from them back in 91 for free. This setup wouldn't run air tools, but for tires etc it worked great.

Jason,

That's great info.

It actually makes me feel good since it's $160 cdn, and you have to bugger about with fittings, wheras I paid $120 for the powertank one. Great info for someone with acess to used parts or e-bay or whatnot though.

For those interested, the specs are:

Item Description

RV 80 heavy duty single stage regulator with oxygen 540 CGA inlet, "B" (RH) 9/16"-18 (M) outlet connection.
Acklands - Grainger Catalog part Number: UNWRV8010
Brand Name: Uniweld
Manufacter Model No.: RV8010
Manufacter Name.: Uniweld
Unit of Measure: EA
Price: $158.94