So my buddy just purchased a 2000 salvaged title jeep for $8K and he'll be needing corner guards. I looked at Off Your Rocker and liked wondered if 1/8" is thick enuff. Anyone have these and rock tested them yet? I also liked the Avalanche ones and at 3/16" seem more sturdy (but more costly).

I'm going with the Avalanche units despite the price.

And by the way Newbie - :flipoff2:

THanks for the hearty welcome orbi,
:flipoff2: (I'm gonna like it here):D
Anyone have experience with the OYR guards?

xj armor makes some 3/16 flat steel corners for a tj. From last i knew, you could only get them from the owner, seeing rubicon express doesnt sell the corners yet. I believe his email is xjarmor@home.net but i could be wrong, i had the email on my old computer, but not this one

James

we too are going with the avalanche corners and rockers on our 00 they are the toughest out there.:flipoff2: newbie:flipoff2:

I have the OYR and they took everything I could hit them against until I cut them up. Cheap, strong, lighter than 3/16 and Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with.

Paul

I'll take Avalanche for $350 please.
Are you guys (and gals) made of money or just in love with your jeeps? :D

Originally posted by nasvik
I have the OYR and they took everything I could hit them against until I cut them up. Cheap, strong, lighter than 3/16 and Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with.

Paul

I'm glad Dan is a great guy- I got that impression too. But that don't mean his product is the best for my application. I need serious rocker protection. The jeep will be leaning and banging on those corners and I'm wondering if 1/8" is thick enuff. I like that it's lighter (what, a mere 20lbs?) than Avalanche but mostly that it's cheaper.
Paul, please explain how you "cut them up"

Originally posted by Cheg
I'll take Avalanche for $350 please.
Are you guys (and gals) made of money or just in love with your jeeps? :D

Both and besides I run cranes for a living and my wife is an office manager so $$$$ are not that hard to come by:flipoff2:

Yeah I saw your post in the newbie thread...thanks. :emb:

I'm glad you got no $$ problems trailhawg. YOUR wife ain't remodeling the house huh? :flipoff2:
Hell, I suppose we didn't get into jeepin' to save money did we:D

i have the avalanch corners and they are great. they are expensive but they are worth the great fit.

Originally posted by Cheg


I'm glad Dan is a great guy- I got that impression too. But that don't mean his product is the best for my application. I need serious rocker protection. The jeep will be leaning and banging on those corners and I'm wondering if 1/8" is thick enuff. I like that it's lighter (what, a mere 20lbs?) than Avalanche but mostly that it's cheaper.
Paul, please explain how you "cut them up"

Cheg - At first, people start adding all sorts of armor to their Jeeps to protect them (my OYR corners did just that). Then, as they get more into it they realize that 1) even 20 extra pounds matters and 2) it's better not to hit things at all. Hence, clearance mods.

OYR corners work very well for what they were designed for. My opinion is that 3/16 is over kill.

If you want to see my cut corners, check my sig and look for the gas tank write-up.

Paul

Take a look at paul's jeep and what hes been thru, or just do a search with his nickname. his website is www.jeepshots.com if that will give any idea to how the 1/8 inch corners have held up

Paul, excellent write up on raising gas tank

I also like what you did to the OYR corner guards. Cut them for extra clearance for sure. Nice job man and thanks for the post

I'm with Paul on this one. Overkill is overkill. If you really need 3/16th's why stop there? Hell 1/4" might be too thin:flipoff2: I sell both OYR and Warrior steel ones. I'm going to cut up some Warrior ones for mine. They are 10 guage I think just a little thinner than Dan's combined with the lack of "diamonds" fairly lighter too. Plus they only cost $105 a pair. Powder coated any color you want as long as it's black semi flat. 10guage steel is pretty hard to bend if I REALLY slam something it might make a tiny dent but who cares?

Remember tall, skinny, and really heavy are cool. That whole lower, wider, lighter, faster thing's over rated.

:flipoff2:

I saw this monstrosity at the Warn RCC. It had 3/4" plate for spring hangers. Funny, it didn't win?

Steve
Glad you mentioned Warrior too as I've been considering them. Afterall 12 gauge isn't much thinner than 1/8" and $100 is a lot better than $270.
What d'ya mean you sell both. You own a 4xshop?

I really gotta wonder about some of the "hardcore" jeep accessory parts people buy..

think about it....

Somebody will spend $350 bucks like it's friggen WATER!

but, will bitch about spending 4-5 bucks a peice for spark
plugs or something.... (this is not aimed at anyone.BTW)

really people, do you know how cheap a peice of 3/16
flat plate is? .30 cents a pound..... I'm guessing a rear
corner peice each would weigh in about 15 pounds.
that's a whopping $4.50 for each side!

oh, that's right, it's not bent yet.... add another 20 bucks
to have 2 corners bent at the same time..... maybe less$$

so, we have 4.50x2=9.00 plus the governers cut, .72 cents
(Still under 10 bucks here), then a 20-spot to our fellow
shop-dude for the pressbrake work... (We got's all of $30
bucks so far..........

and I'd use paint, cause when powder coat scratches-thru,
it'll rust just like anything else would....

so, for under $40 bucks including paint, I can't imagine
paying 350 bucks for corner guards... but that's just me...


I have an ironworker at home, anybody want custom
corner guards made to your spec for under $100 bucks
per pair? let me know............

--Sherpa

Sherpa
I'll take two sets! One for a YJ and another for a TJ.
Where's Campbell, CA?

Originally posted by Cheg
Sherpa
I'll take two sets! One for a YJ and another for a TJ.
Where's Campbell, CA?

Campbell is in/near San Jose....

If you're serious, I'll do it..

the layout portion is on you though for both sets.

I'd need a butcher-paper template of exactly what hole
goes where for both rigs.

you want 3/16 still or 1/8" diamond plate or flat?

And I thought I'd be bored all night being here at work
on my day off...

--Sherpa

I'm seriously looking into it and I appreciate the offer.
Let me talk to my TJ friend and see if he wants a complete stranger 500 miles away building his corner guard. Have you built one before? And are we talking $100/set?
I'll email you hopefully tomorrow or check back on this post

i did buy the competition corners for my yj but i will make my own for my 64 cj project and 82 cj project. if i was to want corners for my wifes 2002 tj id buy them cause im sure the ave corners would fit and look better than home made ones. i see no reason to cover the whole side of the tj though the others yes cause they are rusty and dented. i have even thought of buying the warrior smooth corners and doing the rest of the cj5 with flat steel( basically like ave but in 2 pieces which is fine cause the cj5 has that indent in the side

The Avalanche corners are built with 80,000 lb. Laser plate, Laser cut and the corner on Jeepee's have a irregular corner radius. With a special die built for this radius. If these corners can be built for $40 let me know, because I don't beleive it. Clifton

Originally posted by Cheg
I'm glad you got no $$ problems trailhawg. YOUR wife ain't remodeling the house huh? :flipoff2:
Hell, I suppose we didn't get into jeepin' to save money did we:D


Why in the hell would I remodel a house when I can spend the money on my TJ. I was impressed with avalanche & told my husband that is what I wanted on my rig. :p :flipoff2:


TJ Chick

Just Empty Every Pocket!!

:flipoff2: ;)

TJChicky!

isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

--Sherpa

Originally posted by BRUISER-42
The Avalanche corners are built with 80,000 lb. Laser plate, Laser cut and the corner on Jeepee's have a irregular corner radius. With a special die built for this radius. If these corners can be built for $40 let me know, because I don't beleive it. Clifton

Uh Oh.... I didn't mean to rain on Avalanche's parts! (I hope
my 2 1/2 race runner order isn't gonna be canceled now
Clifton! I think the Avalanche corners are nice. I see this
forum as a place where most go to get ideas, and find
sources for making their own stuff. I don't have a laser-
steel cutting tool. I do have a very nice plasma cutter,
(and soon to own a CNC plasma cutting system)

The corners are a little irregular. I think it has to do with
the method of forming the corners in the factory. It can
all be good if you do your homework first though.


If it's all ok to say here, I'm actually using your rig as a
model to what I want to end up with in my cj7.

--Scott

OYR corner gaurds and rocker panals are AWSOME! I've seen them take nasty hits and just go away scratched! and not even big scratches :-P

I went with 3/16", I just dont feel 1/8" is enuff. I had them made at work. Check at a local fab shop I get my stuff at cost and they were less than $40. The go from the door opening to the tailgate. I alos had tons of extra material so i can trim them any way i want. Good luck.!

Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
TJChicky!

isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

--Sherpa

Yes it is!!!;) :flipoff2:

Tj Chick

Hey Sherpa, I meant the question in the best way. I'am aware there are cheaper ways to build corners, however not to the same quality. My response was to bring to light that Avalanche corners are of the highest quality, and can not be made cheaply. I struggle with keeping pricing as low as I can, and also provide the best in off road equipment. As far as the coilover order, I would never take anything personal. Infact I appreciate very much the mention and input of Avalanche eqipment even the critisizm. Clifton:)

Has anyone actually installed a set of Warrior 12 guage smooth steel corner guards on a TJ? An Off-Road Fabricator spare tire rack is in my TJ's future and from what ORF says, the fit of any corner guard it gets mounted over has to be near perfect for the rack to mount properly.

Hey Jerry, nice to see you onthis board too. Haven't wheeled with you since LCIR last summer.

I don't have any experience with the fit of the Warrior corner guards but at $100 I may soon. AVE and OYR are nicer but I don't know if I need that extra thickness. I'll ask around at jeep club next week

Originally posted by Cheg
Hey Jerry, nice to see you onthis board too. Haven't wheeled with you since LCIR last summer.

I don't have any experience with the fit of the Warrior corner guards but at $100 I may soon. AVE and OYR are nicer but I don't know if I need that extra thickness. I'll ask around at jeep club next week

Hiya Cheg, welcome to the Pirate board! :flipoff2: :flipoff2: We had a great time doing LCIR, didn't we! Have you been back there since? Was that the run where several Jeepers new to LCIR were introduced to the thrills of The Bobsled <g>? You're not the guy who did such a great job spotting me down are ya?

Yeah it'd sure be great to get some first-hand opinions on the Warrior corner guards. I don't need anything fancy or expensive back there, I just know I want steel, no diamond-plate finish, and that they be cheap! AEV and the like are great but well beyond my needs :D

If you're going to the MDA charity run at Ocotillo Wells in February, we'll have to hook there and do a few trails together!

Here's a link to info on that run... http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=23&t=000017

Yeah, I was your spotter. The guywith the blue jeep.
I've been back to LCIR 2x since. Took a newbie in a slightly built XJ and had him strapped ona couple sections. Got a huge thunderhead dump onus the second time. I'm glad the Indians decided to keep it open for now.

Hey here's a great pic from that day Scott Hill sent me, I'm in the Jeep and you're the spotter!

http://images.paintballcity.com/traders/P0002693.jpg

Yep, that's me...and that's Toboggon.
So did ya dent your corners or is your interest in corner guards preventative?

Strictly preventative Cheg. The real reason I want the corner guards now is I'm planning on an Off-Road Fabricator's spare tire carrier and I want the guards on underneath as a tub stiffener. By the way, that photo is my current fave and my computer's wallpaper... Scott's young son was the actual photog. My wife saw the pic and the ones further down inside the Tobbogon and got kind of p.o.'d, saying I was going to wreck my Jeep! :D

What was Scott Hills website. I was going to download som eof those photos his son took.

If Tobbogon freaked your wife, never show her a pic of El Hill!

Originally posted by Jerry Bransford
Has anyone actually installed a set of Warrior 12 guage smooth steel corner guards on a TJ? An Off-Road Fabricator spare tire rack is in my TJ's future and from what ORF says, the fit of any corner guard it gets mounted over has to be near perfect for the rack to mount properly.
Hey Jerry check out this page http://www.arizonatj.com/ he put the ORF carrier on his TJ W/ OYR guards.
P.S.- The Tj you refer to w/ the warrier corners was down @ the shop when I picked up my carrier, and they didn't fit good at all, there was like a 2inch gap between the body and the guard. I dont know if thats how they are or if this is the notting fitting right w/ there carrier mouting brackets
HTH
MIKE

Cheg, Scott Hill's website with all the photos is at http://www.real-jeeps.com/ He's got some great pics there.

Mike, thanks for telling me about the really poor fit on the Warrior corner guards you saw. That's exactly what I heard from one of the ORF people too, probably on the same TJ you saw in their shop. I might order a set to see if newer guards fit better. If not, I'll just return them without mounting them. $95 for steel guards is pretty tempting but at least I'll have my eyes open on whether or not to keep them. Thanks man!

Originally posted by Cheg
Steve
Glad you mentioned Warrior too as I've been considering them. Afterall 12 gauge isn't much thinner than 1/8" and $100 is a lot better than $270.
What d'ya mean you sell both. You own a 4xshop?

Yes I do!

Originally posted by BRUISER-42
The Avalanche corners are built with 80,000 lb. Laser plate, Laser cut and the corner on Jeepee's have a irregular corner radius. With a special die built for this radius. If these corners can be built for $40 let me know, because I don't beleive it. Clifton

They can be made for that if you work for just about free! They sure as hell can't be made to sell for a profit for that. I dig the laser cut Avalanche stuff it looks killer. Here's my .02 $350 isn't too much to pay. Yes some folks can make their own stuff. I can, and yet I'll still probably buy some premade ones. That's why there's choices. To some folks $350 isn't too much, to others $100 is.

I am running 3/16" corner gaurds that wrap from the tail gate all the way around to the door opening. I had a local fab shop bend them for me and I cut out all the holes and the wheel wells. They only cost me $70.00 for the pair. I am going to have another set bent for my other CJ-7 but this time I am going to have them made from 1/8".

I decided to take a chance and just ordered Warrior's $95 12 gauge steel corner guards from Quadratec for my TJ. I'm just hoping they fit better than some have reported they might. If they don't fit well enough, back they go!

Sorry Steve N. I would have ordered from you but Quadratec had a pair in stock and my wife reminded me of the $50 Quadratec gift certificate my daughter gave me for Christmas.

Jerry, when you get your Warriors please bash them real good for us (maybe do an oopsie on Tobbagon) and let us know how they hold up. You know, kinda like take one for the team. :D

To the guy who said he was going to make them to your spec: Can you do diamond plate too? We tried to make them up here, and the radius bender (roller type) fawked the diamond plate all up. Seems you would need a press jig, no?

Phil
Want to make my own for next to nothing, but looks like I am stuck with smooth steel...

Hey Bruiser what type of Steel do U guys use for your corners?
T1, A36, A572, Mild formable AR plate. I was just wondering. I know T1 is higher than A36 and harder to form.
I thought about using it on my corners but I just stuck with A36, since its easier to form. I know the corner radius is a little odd, they guy running the press in the shop had a hard time matching the template i made. If i remember correctly they are something like a 3 7/16" radius give or take a little. Its been a while since we did them. thanks jeremy

I can do diamond plate on my press, but the dies don't like it
toomuch either. I'd cost a little more cause I know the dies would
eventually require replacing sooner for this type of material.

Steve is right, Clifton is right, and others on cost vs hassle.

The materials are cheap. it's the labor. I can still make a profit
(albeit a small one) and still offer the same protection as a
350 dollar corner guard. The whole idea of doing these isn't
a "onezie--twozie" operation, you need to make at least a
dozen pairs or more to make it worth while. Time to tool up
the machine, then punch and bend away..

--Sherpa

--Soon to complete my own CNC plasma cutter system.

buy a sheet o' diamond plate (3'X5' $30) and do this with it...
[img]http://www.cutter.rockcrawler.com/images/puggyandjeep.jpg[/img

got to stop posting while i'm eating lunch....here's the pic.
http://www.cutter.rockcrawler.com/images/puggyandjeep.jpg

Im going with a custom set of Avalanche Eng. Corners. There going to be really cool. I'll post pics when there on the jeep. How can you go wrong with Avalanche all there stuff is beyond built to perfection and nothing but quality. :D