: winch newbie Q


tanman2003
02-01-2004, 10:49 PM
what exactly is the differnce wetween a series wound motor and a permanent magnet motor? i know series wound is more expensive and better, but what are the advantages, and is it really nessesary. THanks!

The Joker
02-02-2004, 08:37 AM
I haven't heard of the other two types you listed but both Ramsey and Warn are series wound which to me means the others aren't worth the dirt you are going to be stuck in.

Get either one and only get electric and never worry again.

tanman2003
02-02-2004, 11:18 PM
so no one really knows? the electric milemarker winches are permenent magnet i believe, thats why they are cheap i guess. anyone got one?:flipoff2:

braxton357
02-02-2004, 11:29 PM
After some searching, It looks like series wound motors are definately better than the permanent magnet types. Heres a quote I found...
The Ramsey REPs are JUNK! If you want a real winch, at least get one with a series wound motor, not a permanent magnet motor which is what the REPs have. A permanent magnet looses a little bit of power every time you use it. You will note that ALL Warns are series wound. In other words, if you are set on getting a Ramsey, stay away from their cheaper winches with permanent magnet motors. They are meant as very light duty winches, not up to a lot of use.

monkeyevil
02-02-2004, 11:49 PM
Series wound is better than perm magnet... but considering the price of an 8000 pound Warn to an 8000 pound Ramsey it may not be worth it.

I have an older Ramsey REP8000. It's near a decade old, as far as I can tell, and has seen a lot of action before me. I rebuilt the motor, greased the gears, and it's still working strong to this day. I would buy another in a heartbeat and still be under the price of one Warn.

The Joker
02-03-2004, 08:19 AM
According to the Ramsey site they are series wound.

http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriot8000.html


Mile marker are Permanent Magnet

http://www.4wheelparts.com/product2.asp?imseqn=2119&occlass=MILE&cat=WIN

Wild YJ
02-04-2004, 07:38 AM
I'm runnin' a MM 9000 and use it quite a bit. I've had it for a year now and for the price I couldn't pass it up since the warn 9000 is twice as much.:)

Buckon37s
02-04-2004, 08:27 AM
With winches, you get what you pay for, IMHO.

monkeyevil
02-04-2004, 09:27 AM
Some Ramseys are series wound, some are not.

The RE series is perm magnet. But the series wound ones approach the price of a Warn....

d.d.machine
02-04-2004, 10:30 AM
After having electric in the past I`m going to MM hydro this time .. with the pump and valves I have it well be pulling 10,000+ LBS at 60 feet a min ,,, yes that is right 60' a min :flipoff2:

I use a winch a lot for work and the electrics suck if your trying to run them for more than a few min at a time. If I was only using it to pull the heep out once a month I would save some $$$ and get a old style warn.

The Joker
02-04-2004, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by d.d.machine
After having electric in the past I`m going to MM hydro this time .. with the pump and valves I have it well be pulling 10,000+ LBS at 60 feet a min ,,, yes that is right 60' a min :flipoff2:

I use a winch a lot for work and the electrics suck if your trying to run them for more than a few min at a time. If I was only using it to pull the heep out once a month I would save some $$$ and get a old style warn.

For work a Hydro may be fine but fore wheeling they arent so hot. I have seen many many instances where the vehicle pulling itself out was not able to run, which of course isnt even an option with a Hydro.