NOTE:
Past pix and info concerning Formula Toy #011 is posted (Hi-Jacked:eek:) on Formula Toyota (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=210782) Posted by SeaBass.
So now I'm starting a my own thread so I don't have to hi-jack Seabass's thread anymore.:D
You can also follow my progress on my
Website (http://www.SandtasticToys.com)

Here is the latest:
Fabbed motor mounts and pushed motor back 8" and down 1"

Just installed the Radiator and Howe system reservoir and dry fit the winch.

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RadiatorPreMount7.JPG
:D
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/HoodTubeWork1.JPG


:D

wow HH! That is lookin' great. Keep up the good work. And I like those shock mounts...

very perty

KC

looking good:cool:

can't wait to see some action pics:D

Looking good.........Keep up the fast work....;)

Have you gotten rid of you old cab yet,,, if not anny chance you will be willing to ship it to Guam??? That thing is :cool:

nice. gets me motivated to get mine done. mine will be ugly though;)

vary nice, i have always liked your old setup too

Nice work, looks like you'll be the first one done:)

Just thought this post shoudl show some your your other pictures........


Well there's mine #011
Still in the mental planning stages and waiting to see the pedal assembly kits that Camo and Air Ride are putting together. I do have some trick rear spring stuff up my sleeves. Budbuilt has some cool stuff too that I'm looking at for the belly. I'll post pix once under way. Not sure if I'll take a semi running 82 4x that I have or just start hacking the flatbed that I just built. Kind of tempted to remove the cab and flatbed. It is a one of a kind but I think it will be worth the sacrifice. Anyone want my flatbed or cab? I will sell them cheep if I go that route. I live near the Hammers if you want them. Go to my site to see more pix
SandtasticToys.com

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/NewFrame3.JPG

Well it's a done deal. Off with the cab tonight and flatbed tomorrow. Maybe have #011 tacked on in a few days or so (Time permiting).
Tools needed for surgery...

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Ready4Surgery2.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/CabGoing2.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/cabGone4.JPG

Off with the Flatbed and on with #011

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/FrameSitting10.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/FrameSitting3.JPG
http://sandtastictoys.com/FrameSitting5.JPG
http://sandtastictoys.com/FrameSitting8.JPG

These are existing measurements that will change during the process. The transfer case will be tucked up above the bottom of the frame. The engine/driveline will be pushed back 8"...Looks like I'll have an 1-1/2" of clearance between the back of the engine and the cross member once I push the engine back 8"

http://sandtastictoys.com/FrameSitting9.JPG

Here's the most recent update thus far. Could not wait any longer, had to fab my own pedal assembly. Got it tacked in but does not look as cool as the up coming Hendrix model but it works fine for now. Just got the steering mounted as well. It sure does test the foresight. Got to keep in mind the fire wall, floor board, instrument panel/dash and final placement of the drive train.

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/SteeringMount4.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/SteeringMount5.JPG

To Belly-Pan or not to Belly-Pan...That is the question:D

Not sure if I like the Belly-Pan idea due to the fact that it weighs a ton (At least 100 lbs) and I hate adding weight. It will lighten up some after I cut out for the drive shafts but if your going to have extra weight, this is where you want it:D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/BellyPan1.JPG

Looking forward to getting the belly pan complete and then go after the fire-wall, dash, and floor board. Then the plumbing and electrical, then the rear suspension, then, then, then...a :beer: then Jambo:D

what thickness material did you use for the belly pan? are you gonna use the stock tcase mounts? how will you account for the angle of the tcase/tranny when bolting the mounts to the belly pan, will you use shims of some sort or just rely on the rubber to give to accomidate for the angle?

Originally posted by hiluxman
what thickness material did you use for the belly pan? are you gonna use the stock tcase mounts? how will you account for the angle of the tcase/tranny when bolting the mounts to the belly pan, will you use shims of some sort or just rely on the rubber to give to accomidate for the angle?

1) 3/16" plate
2) No, going to fab my own mounts with rubber bushings
3&4) I will point pinion upwards. The angle is not as severe as one would think.
:D

sweet! i am definetly belly panning it too!

thanks. im in the middle of figuring out my bellypan at the moment and was debating if is should start cutting up my new budbuilt and fab new braces for it at the frame rails or go your route.

so the poly bushings will mount to the 3/16" plate or completely seperate mounting?

Originally posted by hiluxman


so the poly bushings will mount to the 3/16" plate or completely seperate mounting?

Not 100% sure yet. A friend of mine says he knows of some GM tranny mount that may be modified to mount to the pan. The pan is real stout. So mounting to the pan should be no prob. May add a stiffener if need be:D

I formed the bely with tube on mine and will skin it with HDPE? (cutting board stuff).
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=2323241

what size/kind shock are you running?

Originally posted by stomper4x4
Have you gotten rid of you old cab yet,,, if not anny chance you will be willing to ship it to Guam??? That thing is :cool:


Sure...send me some Cuban inner tubes and a sail and I'll push it off from Huntington Beach:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

looks sick, can't wait to see one of these finished.

Just made my inboard spring mounts. Rear springs match front springs at 29" OC:D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Inboard5.JPG

:D

nice design there. looks real clean. is that the belly pan i see there?

Originally posted by a2b
nice design there. looks real clean. is that the belly pan i see there?

Yes...and here is a better angle:D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Inboard9.JPG

Your rig is looking farken great. Are you using a plasma cutter to make your parts? :D

Why inboard the springs when you're still going to hang up on the hanger that is lower than the frame? Maybe it's just the picture, but it just looks like you moved them in, not up where they like to hang up?

Originally posted by PAULR
Your rig is looking farken great. Are you using a plasma cutter to make your parts? :D

No...just a guide and a cutting torch:D
Can't afford a plasma cutter just yet:(

What kind of guide are you using? My torch work isn't even close to what I see you doing. Could you post pictures of your power steering bracket? :D

Originally posted by PAULR
What kind of guide are you using? My torch work isn't even close to what I see you doing. Could you post pictures of your power steering bracket? :D

I just run my cutting tip along side a piece of scrap metal that is clamped to the piece that I'm cutting:D

Originally posted by pmurf1
Why inboard the springs when you're still going to hang up on the hanger that is lower than the frame?

i was wondering the same thing. but mabey the pic is misleading. it seems like the hanger could be tucked up in the frame an inch or so.....

Originally posted by a2b


i was wondering the same thing. but mabey the pic is misleading. it seems like the hanger could be tucked up in the frame an inch or so.....

Your right, I could have tucked up my hangers but that would lessen my overall ground clearance of 27.5". Also I have rarely had my hangers make any contact with rock anyway. It will be less likely with them closer together than where they were. The hangers are not as low as they were and have a tilted angle to let them slide a bit:D

Originally posted by Hammer Hog


Also I have rarely had my hangers make any contact with rock anyway. Haven't been to AZ yet, then :D :D. I would've moved them up with the inboard mounts, but it's your rig. It's looking good :D :D :D

so if you dont mind..how did you go about attaching your belly pan? self tapping bolts into the frame? or brackets inside the frame? pics?

Okay...here is a better angle of my spring hanger for all of you that ask and think my hangers are too low and will hang up on stuff. You can see the hanger is tilted to take on nearly the same angle as the spring. It also is up from the original position about an inch. If for some reason they are too low, I can place new holes a bit above it's current position and shave the mount a bit. I do think this is a good compromise considering I am not losing any ground clearance under the belly. I am still 27.5" off the ground and will not drag as much as others will when all their hangers are tucked or frenched
:p
I also will be changing the hangers out sometime down the road. I have a custom hanger that I'm going to make that will allow better articulation. Just don't have enough time to make them up yet, I will wait till I am wheelin first and catch my breath a bit:D Then fine tune the rig.

:D :D :D http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Inboard6.JPG

a2b, I used tapered bolts and welded mounting plates to the inside of my frame. Don't have any clear pix of them yet. If you look hard enough, you can see them. I am going to add a few more as soon as I can get more bolts.:D

Re:Todd, Thanks and your rig is looking real cool too. Keep up the pix, we enjoy them:D

Originally posted by PAULR
Your rig is looking farken great. Are you using a plasma cutter to make your parts? :D

Buying my plasma cutter was one of the best things I did on my project. I just got done cutting my custom suspension brackets.

Mocked in the rear-end for drive shaft angles. Produced about 24 degrees on both ends. If I pointed rear pinion to t-case, the angle at the t-case would have been quite bit greater. Also gained better ground clearance too by pointing the pinion upwards:D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearEnd_MockUp9.JPG

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearEnd_MockUp10.JPG

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearEnd_MockUp12.JPG

Now ready to weld in dif armor and shock mounts, etc:D

Mocked in fuel cell too:D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearEnd_MockUp3.JPG

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearEnd_MockUp6.JPG


:D

holy shit, why so steap? that pinion bearing isnt gonna get any oil will it?

Originally posted by hiluxman
holy shit, why so steap? that pinion bearing isnt gonna get any oil will it?

Good point... that's why it's just mocked at this point in time:D Could lower it a bit I suppose. How steep of an angle is too steep at the t-case?

looks like a toyota top loader :D

ya thats a pretty steep angle. how far back is your motor? 6"...hmmmm...so mounting the tcase that high might be a problem then?

Originally posted by a2b
ya thats a pretty steep angle. how far back is your motor? 6"...hmmmm...so mounting the tcase that high might be a problem then?

I moved it back 8"

Someone (Wont mension who) at one of the "Approved Venders" made the suggestion of pointing the pinion upwards above the t-case and match the angles on both ends of the drive shaft as I did. And I got to admit at the time I was too focused on matching angles, I was not even thinking of the pinion bearing possition...oops:eek: That person may not have realized how severe the new angles are due to pushing back 8" and raising up the t-case 5" even though I did tell him what I did.

As I said before, it's only mocked at this point and I can easily rotate the diff housing to make it work:D

BTW Don't even suggest Hi-Pinion...they are unreliable in the rear.

On my new buggy the rear drive shaft is shorter than a stock front shaft by an 1 1/2. I am running a front cv and have over shot the t-case by a cupple of dagrees. Our buggys will never see any street time and if over filled the pinion bearings should last a long time before thay need to be replaced.

I am thinking that if I turn my pinion down (with the axle on jack stands) as far as I am going to have it turned up in the rig and then fill it with oil, it should have enough oil to keep the bearings happy.

Lust my plan havent tried it.

Just thinking...wouldn't the oil be splashed up there anyway due to the fact that everything is spinning through the oil and oil should be flinging everywhere?
Was thinking that the high pinions are above oil level too and would have the same problem. As I said just thinking:D

You ought to ask JackA and Zags about how your angles look. They're going through the same troubles right now. Moved the motor way back and up with a flat belly and driveshafts and CV's are dropping like flies. I highly doubt that setup is going to work for more than a run or two, even if you lower the rear of the t-case a lot. You went too far back IMO.

just rotate the pinion down and over fill the diff.

i am going to add a fill hole on the top of my diff to make overfilling easy.


i am not going to run a cv cause they are weak. plus a stock toy ujoint can take alot more degree. the ujoint will be a constant maintance item and i will probally replace mine every run. aslo i could care less about vibrations from not running a cv

try a hy-pinion:D ;)

Originally posted by a2b
try a hy-pinion:D ;)

Hi-Pinion would be less dependable.

I'm not too concerned, just may go through u-joints more often.

Will be pointing the pinion down some.

No big hurry to weld the perches just yet:D

Jury is still out;)

Originally posted by Hammer Hog


Hi-Pinion would be less dependable.


:D i was just messin with ya:D ;)

ya, i think it will be alright:)

With the engine back 8 inches, my angle came out to 30%. Rotated the pinion angle to match that, looks pretty good. I'll snap a pic tonight.

Here is where I think the pinion will stay. It is now pointed straight and paralell to the t-case. It is at 25 degrees. Pinion bearing should no longer be an issue. Moved the rear axle back 1" to the next perch hole. Wheelbase is now 109.25"

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/DriveshaftAngle2.JPG


Also put the fuel cell mount in

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearEnd_MockUp17.JPG


:D

Originally posted by camo
and i will probally replace mine every run.

:rolleyes: yea, right :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Aaronn


:rolleyes: yea, right :flipoff2:

either preventively or on the trail :D

A week or two from wheelin :D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/frontEnd1.JPG

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/seats1.JPG

See my site (http://sandtastictoys.com) for further progress:eek:







:D

looking good:cool:

looking good. i like your site

Looks great! I like the blue cage :cool:

Finally mounted the winch and gas pedal. Almost ready for wire, throttle cable and plumbing:bounce2: http://www.sandtastictoys.com/FrontEndWinch1.JPG
Hoping to test run it this weekend at Cougar Buttes (Lord willing!)

your rig is clean like your shop. everything on the wall has its place and stuff. the radio, the ladder....my stuff is all over the place.

Nice work!......and the site pics look great. Hope all goes well finsihing it up.
Jay

Where did you get your fuel cell. That looks like what I am looking for.

Originally posted by fprbrooks
Where did you get your fuel cell. That looks like what I am looking for.
I got it at Summit (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=RCI%2D2161A)

:DIt's alive!!!
Will be wheeling this weekend...finally:D :D :D

Originally posted by Hammer Hog
:DIt's alive!!!
Will be wheeling this weekend...finally:D :D :D

sweet! take some pics:)

It's out of the garage :D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/ItsAlive1.JPG


:D :D :D

Originally posted by Hammer Hog
It's out of the garage :D



:D :D :D And ?????? :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

thats it:flipoff2:

Nice....:D :D :D

Originally posted by RE:Todd
And ?????? :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I know, I know...got too much to list on what we got done in the last day and a half. Will be at it again tommorow. Hope to have the rear shocks mounted. However I need to make larger ramps to maximize articulation to mark shock placement. I only took a couple of shots today and you all ready saw the other one.
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/ItsAlive3.JPG
Still have a lot of small stuff to do to be Fomula ready.

BTW Re:Todd, your's is looking sweet. Looks like your springs work well. My rear inboard springs work good but seems like the AP's in the front now seem a bit stiffer than before. May need to fork out a few more $$s to tune in the front to get things ballanced.


:bounce2:

Originally posted by Hammer Hog




BTW Re:Todd, your's is looking sweet. Looks like your springs work well. My rear inboard springs work good but seems like the AP's in the front now seem a bit stiffer than before. May need to fork out a few more $$s to tune in the front to get things ballanced.


:bounce2: Call up Jeff at Deaver.

Today we got it on a crude ramp, then mounted the shocks:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/FTartRampTest3.JPG

Then headed to nearby Giant Rock and played a bit:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/GiantRock3.JPG

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Testrun1.JPG

And then:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/ProFieldFailer3.JPG
BANG!!!:nuke::mad:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/ProFieldFailer1.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/ProFieldFailer2.JPG
Yes, it's another Profield. That's two now on first runs on trivial stuff. Do I smell a bad batch? Both times it was on the first few moves. So what gives? Do I put my old original birf back in? Or do I put my last Profield in? The dumb thing even blew out my hub. Still yet to pull the thing a part. Does not apear to have broken the bell or inners, just the outter shaft...dang.
:confused::shaking:

looking sweet. we are almost ready to hit the trail with you


so how did you like it ?

Originally posted by camo
looking sweet. we are almost ready to hit the trail with you


so how did you like it ?

Awesome....Till the ProFail let loose (again) as seen above.

looks great

you wont mind if I put some of your pics on my web site?

Originally posted by Air Ride
looks great

you wont mind if I put some of your pics on my web site?

go for it

smurfy

nice!!! all these pics just keeps me motivated to get my butt outide and keep buildin..

Originally posted by Hammer Hog
Yes, it's another Profield. That's two now on first runs on trivial stuff. Do I smell a bad batch? Both times it was on the first few moves. So what gives? Do I put my old original birf back in? Or do I put my last Profield in? The dumb thing even blew out my hub. Still yet to pull the thing a part. Does not apear to have broken the bell or inners, just the outter shaft...dang.
:confused::shaking:


I dont think its a bad batch, Profields are just pieces of shit!! :mad: I would just buy the RINGED Longs and be done.

I dont think the ring matters as much as the originals were made w/ genuine toyota cores.

Originally posted by FatA$$ Toyota



I dont think its a bad batch, Profields are just pieces of shit!! :mad: I would just buy the RINGED Longs and be done.


longs are build from the same cores as profields. welding rings on the bell would not have keep the stub shaft from breaking.

I guess I should have read a little closer but it still stands that the profields and the new RINGLESS Longs are breaking regularly.

There are multiple 4 wheelin boards out there and people are breaking the PRO's and the NEW Longs on there as well.

The general concensus is that the OLD Stlye Longs are still the best route.

Bellfields

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=206198&highlight=bellfield

Well, I'm getting closer. Finally changed out the birf, Niasin Hub, and spindle that was taken out when the birf stub end blew. Still have a bit to do in order to run Jack at next week's Jambo. Still need to mount the bump-stops, spare tire, jack, tool kit, and most important...the ice chest rack :D Shade would be cool too.
Did get the rest of the wiring and lighting finished off today:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/DashWiring2.JPG

Did squeeze off a few poser shots as well:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Poser3.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Poser6.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Poser8.JPG
I think I was parked in Re:Todd's space :D

Nice, looks great....
:D :D :D

Did squeeze off a few poser shots as well:

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Poser8.JPG
I think I was parked in Re:Todd's space :DI want that sign :D :D :D

so have you thought about the hood? anyone going to have one since hte motor sticks out of the chassis?

so have you thought about the hood? anyone going to have one since hte motor sticks out of the chassis?
Check the CalRocs rules, we are required to have something to prevent having radiator water hit staff or spectators incase of failure of the radiator or hoses.

so have you thought about the hood?

Yes...and it's goint to be bling :D

But not till I get the rest of the stuff done. Hood and roof is at the end of my list.

I want that sign :D :D :D


If I can steal it from my dad, it's yours. :smokin:

If I can steal it from my dad, it's yours. :smokin:
Why don't ypu steal it for me :evil: :evil:

Got some Polycarbonate (Lexan) skins on tonight. Now it's ready for some sponsor decals. So if ya want your decals on my rig...ya better cough up some goodies. The bigger the goodies. the bigger the decal. I only see one so far...so whatcha waiting for?!
Could use some beadlocks...hint, hint.
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/LexanSkins1.JPG




Light test: Passed
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/NightLightLexan1.JPG

Yes...and it's goint to be bling :D

.

you mean you arent just going to cut and bend up the oem hood and make it fit :D

you mean you arent just going to cut and bend up the oem hood and make it fit :D

He's not the BOOTY FAB KING Hobie :p

Hammer, i was looking on your buildup site and saw that you placed the all pro crossmember above the frame. how is this possible since you moved the engine back 8" and 1" down??

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/T-CaseLift2.JPG

Hammer, i was looking on your buildup site and saw that you placed the all pro crossmember above the frame. how is this possible since you moved the engine back 8" and 1" down??

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/T-CaseLift2.JPG



That's not suprising. If you look at the pic closely you'll notice the bottom
of the T-case is level with the bottom of the frame. It's the same as RE:Todd's
Short Bus II, except that RE:Todd uses a Bud Built crossmember that's 100%
flat and mounted to the bottom of the frame. The end result is the same.

Hammer, i was looking on your buildup site and saw that you placed the all pro crossmember above the frame. how is this possible since you moved the engine back 8" and 1" down??

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/T-CaseLift2.JPG

I had the AP crossmember mocked in on top of the frame just for support cuz it was close to where it finally sets. It's now supported by a reinforced 3/16" belly pan.
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/BellyPan1.JPG
I do like the belly pan however I am going to replace the belly pan with a BudBuilt crossmember when time permits. I will mount it from inside the frame and will lower the t-cases about an inch or so to better my output angle.

Any more updates? hows it doin?

Any more updates? hows it doin?

Not much as of late.

However did do a couple of night runs recently.
Played on the first crux on Backdoor a few weeks ago. Did it with little effort :D Wanted to do more but my buddy's Jeep was not a contender for the whole run. Figured I was safe if I busted something (Like my remaining Profield :eek: ) on the first crux cuz he could still reach me.
Played on another run the other night as seen below.
I have a set of Bellfields that are going in soon as I get my bling hubs and rotors back from AirRide :D Getting ready to do my hood and roof soon too, where as I have the aluminum ready to cut and bend :D Still have to switch out my Weber for a stock carb that I don't have. Got my window net but not installed yet, ordered some trick Wilwood pedal/MC assemblies and Quick disconnect steering wheel hub. Still need to get the two required fire extinguishers and first-aid kit. Also need the master kill switch too. I think that's all I need to meet the comp specs (I hope!) :D

Cool thing happened the other day...My wife drove my rig and liked it :D
The best part was that she says "Can you make me one in purple?" :D
BTW, she has an 87 EFI Extended cab :D I have an extra straight axle :D As if I didn't have enough projects! I think I can squeez it in somehow before she changes her mind. I'll have start cuttin while the cuttin is still good!:laughing:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Bob5.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/MarionFT1.JPG

I have a set of Bellfields that are going in soon


You'll be a very happy man. Any chance you'd be interested in running those Profields in comp though :flipoff2:

You'll be a very happy man. Any chance you'd be interested in running those Profields in comp though :flipoff2:



:shaking: , :laughing: :D

steve, which kind of pedals did you get???

steve, which kind of pedals did you get???

I got them through Vic.
I think they are the same as yours. However the bore may be different on the MC's cuz I'm running the newer IFS brakes and the 1600# clutch

I had the AP crossmember mocked in on top of the frame just for support cuz it was close to where it finally sets. It's now supported by a reinforced 3/16" belly pan.
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/BellyPan1.JPG
I do like the belly pan however I am going to replace the belly pan with a BudBuilt crossmember when time permits. I will mount it from inside the frame and will lower the t-cases about an inch or so to better my output angle.



Any progress Hammer Hog?

Why are you geting rid of the belly plan? Are the driveline angles too much with it up that high? Any other problems?
Do you have any picts of inside, the floor, seat mounts, tranny tunnel and fire wall?

Found all the picts I was looking for on your website :D

Any progress Hammer Hog?

Why are you geting rid of the belly plan? Are the driveline angles too much with it up that high? Any other problems?
Do you have any picts of inside, the floor, seat mounts, tranny tunnel and fire wall?

No progress as of late. Been too busy. Work, another build, and been fishing in Alaska the last couple of weeks. Havn't even installed my Bellfields and Hindrex's hub/rotor assemblies yet. Not even sure if I'll even make it to NorCal in August.

As far as loosing the belly pan, I want to loose the weight and gain more access under the floor board. I can really tell it's there (The weight). And if all these other Formulas are busting r&p's and stuff on the CalRok events, I want as little weight as possible. Got to remember, CalRoc is spectator friendly, and not so much competitor friendly, i.e. carnage. I'm not too excited on counting on busting stuff just to please the spectators at my expence :D So I'm not in any hurry at this point, so I'm taking my sweet time with my Formula build. Besides, I also started a street legal 87 Xcab rockcrawling, trail running build that has taken up some of my time.

As far as pics of the seat mounts and other floor board shots, no, I don't have any other than what I posted on my site.

:D

Formulas are busting r&p's and stuff on the CalRok events, I want as little weight as possible. Got to remember, CalRoc is spectator friendly, and not so much competitor friendly, i.e. carnage. I'm not too excited on counting on busting stuff just to please the spectators at my expence

as far as i know, werent both of them doing burns when they busted the r&p?
if so...then i just wont do burns :D speed kills

Steve, I'll have the shirts I owe you at the August event, guess you'll just need to show up :D :D

as far as i know, werent both of them doing burns when they busted the r&p?
if so...then i just wont do burns :D speed kills
RE: Todds rig was doing a rear burn and Lisa was hung on the rear diff with the front wheel over a ledge that gave them all the traction they needed to break the front R&P. The corses are great, not any harder on the rig than the Hammers. As long as you drive like you are at the Hammers.

The corses are great, not any harder on the rig than the Hammers. As long as you drive like you are at the Hammers.

I agree, the corses are great, even if they do toss ya on your lid more often than the Hammers :laughing: And the corses do take it's toll as does the Hammers. And I do plan to compete. My point is, I just want to be prepared with the right stuff as in having my rig dialed in and having plenty of spare parts and such and I am not going to rush things as where I do have other things going on that prevents me to be done when I'd like. :D

sounds like your scared :flipoff2:

j/k like i have room to talk

sounds like your scared :flipoff2:

j/k like i have room to talk

Ya, Shaken in da boots and wet da pants too! Oh, wait, that's you :laughing:

So how's your rig coming along? Want to do the John Bull Trail in Big Bear this Saturday and finish it off with a Hammers night run with us? :D

Ya, Shaken in da boots and wet da pants too! Oh, wait, that's you :laughing:

So how's your rig coming along? Want to do the John Bull Trail in Big Bear this Saturday and finish it off with a Hammers night run with us? :D


oh man you shouldnt of told me that. i am sick on the inside now. not having a rig sucks!!! i should of kept my 4runner on 35's so i could of gone along :(

Back to fabbing, finally!
Just finishing up loose ends so it will pass tech.
Got my Bellfields in as well as my new Hendrix Hubs and Rotors (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232912&highlight=Hendrix+hubs)
Also started on my new Wilwood Pedals (http://www.wilwood.com/products.asp) and MC's Mount. Almost done with the Hood and Roof. Finished the Window Net.
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Wilwood_Pedals_5-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Hood_2-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Window_Net_5-.JPG
:D

The hood came out nice, and the window net cleaned up well with the smaller buckle.

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oh man you shouldnt of told me that. i am sick on the inside now. not having a rig sucks!!! i should of kept my 4runner on 35's so i could of gone along :(

I knew you'd be sorry one day :flipoff2:

I knew you'd be sorry one day :flipoff2:

yep, you are right. so how is my baby :(

looks good steve. you were thinking the same thing as me for the hood :)

damn dude that hood is crazy! I wounder what its going to look like after a rollover :D

yep, you are right. so how is my baby :(



It's comin along. Got it locked in the rear, york compressor, new timing chain, axle seals front and rear and a bunch of interior work.

I'll have to try and make it to a formula comp so you can see how it's coming. Maybe we can trade rides for a day :D

Maybe we can trade rides for a day :D



no way, i have seen the way you drive :flipoff2:


sorry steve for hijacking your thread. wont happen again :D

no way, i have seen the way you drive :flipoff2:
sorry steve for hijacking your thread. wont happen again :D

Ya man, take it to Chit Chat :D
just kiddin


Anyway, here's the latest stuff done to my rig. Redesigned my hood:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/TopViewHood1.JPG
Installed the very bling vinyl coated braided aircraft brake lines that JRT pick up for me:
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/MC_Lines1-.JPG
Note the cool scratches from the night before. 2nd waterfall on Backdoor flop over


:D

Can still see under and trough the hood :D http://www.sandtastictoys.com/DashHood1.JPG

Oh yea, that flop-over that was mentioned above :eek: :D
http://www.extremewheelers4christ.org/images/tip.jpg
:laughing: 2nd waterfall on Backdoor :D

Wilwood said dump the bling braided brake lines, quick:(
Hard lines only until the wheel area. The braided line can expand under pressure and cause problems. They say you must concider the length times the amount of expansion. The areas near the wheels are fine because they are short. They also say may not pass teck in most other comps.
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/MC_Lines1-.JPG

sweet rig, you do nice work! :D

:D Great Rig Hammer Hog
thanks for the ride.

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:D Great Rig Hammer Hog
thanks for the ride.

Hey Rick, thank you guys for such a cool party way up there in Coarsegold. Was fun wheeling with all you guys and look forward to the Calico Jambo and the Duzy/Ershiam in 2005 :D

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http://www.sandtastictoys.com/1006-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Flop1-.JPG

Here's more pics of the Christmas Party http://www.4x4him.com/ChristmasParty_2004.htm
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Gallery_2.htm


:D

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http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Flop1-.JPG


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That silver F TOY you have pictured above, #13, Robert I believe,
is pretty freaking slick. When I first saw it I thought it was just thrown together, but the more I looked at it, talked to him,and watched him drive,
the more impressed I was. Hes got that chassis on there low, and few other things done differently than the other ones Ive seen.
Nice carpet too :smokin:
I think he had a good chance of winning at Donner if he hadnt broke that rear axle.

[QUOTE=Hammer Hog]
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/1004-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/1006-.JPG
http://www.sandtastictoys.com/Flop1-.JPG


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That silver F TOY you have pictured above, #13, Robert I believe,
is pretty freaking slick. When I first saw it I thought it was just thrown together, but the more I looked at it, talked to him,and watched him drive,
the more impressed I was. Hes got that chassis on there low, and few other things done differently than the other ones Ive seen.
Nice carpet too :smokin:
I think he had a good chance of winning at Donner if he hadnt broke that rear axle.


Yes, he and his spotter/wife? made a good team. Its a shame he didn't have a wide rear axle, cause we had spares and would have gladly gave it up to keep him in the comp. :(

Yes, he and his spotter/wife? made a good team

The reason that they are so good is that she competes in her Runner, also. So she sees things from the drivers and spotters point of view.

she been telling me how to drive for years but now i have to listen.

Comfy Removable Rear Seat fits like a glove :D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearSeat1-.JPG

Comfy Removable Rear Seat fits like a glove :D

http://www.sandtastictoys.com/RearSeat1-.JPG

Nice.
Ive been planing on putting a single seat back there, but the space is tight.
What is that, a Jeep seat of some kind?

Now that I look a little closer I see you moved that cross bar back a bit to get more room. Good idea.

Mike Gormans formula

You know Hog, if you bring that Ftoy to run Dusy this summer, that would be considered cheating :laughing: .

You know Hog, if you bring that Ftoy to run Dusy this summer, that would be considered cheating :laughing:


Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

:laughing:

Mike Gormans formula



Now that's nice! :D

very nice. wow! first formulas with rear seats. looks freaking sweet!

Mike Gormans formula

This is uber-sweet.

I can't wait for my chassis to be ready...

Mike Gormans formula
Okay. That settles it. A 900 chassis that can hold four people and looks this good? Gimme. I can live with rerouting a couple of tubes to make room for the back seat and change stuff the way I like it. I'm buying one the moment I finish my last college class, and the Runner is dying quickly and violently. Too bad that's 2 years away. :(

Mike Gormans formulaAnd Mikes a big guy who likes his front seats way back. I set the front seats in my x this week and there is a lot of room for the back seat. The foot room is clear, the head room is more of an issue.

Mike Gormans formula

That is sweet looking. :smokin:

Mike Gormans formula

Is that the one I saw cruise down my street in Atascadero the other day?

whats the WB on the 4 seater?? any room left in the back for tools or a cooler??

whats the WB on the 4 seater?? any room left in the back for tools or a cooler??
if I'm not mistaken, those are both the regular 2 seat frame just with some modifications to run a back seat.

hopefully someone will chime in and correct me if I'm wrong.

Is that the one I saw cruise down my street in Atascadero the other day?


Probably he lives in A-town

if I'm not mistaken, those are both the regular 2 seat frame just with some modifications to run a back seat.

Yup, the two above are of the old two seater model.

They're selling the 4-seater model to accommodate the longer wheel-based trucks :D

Here's a 4-seater model build (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=296384&highlight=formula)

your garage is way too clean :)

your garage is way too clean :)

Wait till you see the one we're about to break ground on :D
And this one will be at my house whereas the other is at the house I built for my folks. It will be nice not to travel 20 miles to the shop anymore.

hey guys, new to the pirate 4x4. planning on ordering a hendrix chassis, just wondering, about how much time does it take to get it ready for the trails? also #011 you did an awsome job w/ the pics on you web site, very helpfull. thanks for any info.

about how much time does it take to get it ready for the trails? .

depends. took me 6 month just to get it running. and i am not done with it and its been 1.5 years :rolleyes:

depends. took me 6 month just to get it running. and i am not done with it and its been 1.5 years :rolleyes:

Ya, but you've been playing with it for a while now. You're just gettin rid of the "Booty Fab" :laughing:
See?! (http://www.extremewheelers4christ.org/Video/FormulaToyotas.WMV)

Ya, but you've been playing with it for a while now. You're just gettin rid of the "Booty Fab" :laughing:
See?![/URL]

true, and i would of had it compeleted now but i kept running into delays. i have about everything re-done now. the next thing is big, change out the entire floor, fire wall and hood and motor mounts. then i am going to get penguin of doom (lance) to come wire it all up for me. :D

hey guys, new to the pirate 4x4. planning on ordering a hendrix chassis, just wondering, about how much time does it take to get it ready for the trails? also #011 you did an awsome job w/ the pics on you web site, very helpfull. thanks for any info.Mine was 6 weeks from old runner to new bus :D :D