: 231 to 300


xmbldx
12-30-2001, 04:20 PM
does any one make the spacer ring other than advanced to swap a 300 in for a 231 that is behind the ax15

TJ
01-01-2002, 02:23 PM
Check out this site.
300 Swap (http://www.downeastoffroad.com/mainpage.htm)
Looks like they have done their homework on the 231 to 300 swap.

el General
01-01-2002, 02:31 PM
Not that I have heard of... I am doing the swap soon and got the price of $208 from Advance. Are there issues with this adapter or are you looking for a cheaper solution?

'Cause I don' t think you will find anything cheaper than that.

YJ4LIFE
01-01-2002, 05:35 PM
those guys want a lot of money for their kit. Is there a way to do it myself? do they have anything special?

The Rockslut
01-01-2002, 06:13 PM
I swapped a 300 into my YJ. I had the 999 Auto and didnt need an adapter. Both were 23 spline. I used the Go2Guy engineering clocking ring to swing the 300 up.

Blitzed
01-01-2002, 08:08 PM
Just thought i would add this. I sell an adapter/clocking ring for putting a 300 behind the ax-15,aw-4. i also sell clocking rings for any other tranny. i sell them for 160 US and they can be shipped ups or purolater in a letter format so it is very in expensive.

xmbldx
01-04-2002, 08:31 PM
rockslut did the 999 come out of a cj, is the bell housing the same on the 4.0 and the 4.2 i have an auto out of a wrangler but i m not sure if it is the 999 i also hava an auto out of a 90 comanche but i believe it is a aw4 or something this will just be a wrangler for my wife and she wouldnt wheel much it has a good running 4.2 and ax15 but i have a chev front 60 and 14 bolt that i could swap in if i could throw in a 300. blitzed is the adapter just a ring, no stub shaft tail shaft nothing all i need is your magic ring right?

Scout Dude
01-04-2002, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by xmbldx
rockslut did the 999 come out of a cj, is the bell housing the same on the 4.0 and the 4.2 i have an auto out of a wrangler but i m not sure if it is the 999 i also hava an auto out of a 90 comanche but i believe it is a aw4 or something this will just be a wrangler for my wife and she wouldnt wheel much it has a good running 4.2 and ax15 but i have a chev front 60 and 14 bolt that i could swap in if i could throw in a 300. blitzed is the adapter just a ring, no stub shaft tail shaft nothing all i need is your magic ring right?

The 999 is the auto that comes with all 6 cyl YJ's from the factory.( At least in 94-RS's year) You don't even need the ring but the 300 will hang down real low and the pan won't fit. Go for the ring too.

DEO1tonJEEP
01-05-2002, 07:45 AM
We make the Dana 300 Flip Kit. If all you want to do is put a 300 behind a stock trans without flipping it over for drivers side drop, you don't need an indexing ring. We sell a special input bearing and instructions on installing it for $100. Its very simple and if you want to clock the case merely re drill your trans housing and you want loose the driveline length of using a clocking ring. We use this set up with our flip kit and works great.
Thanks Robert 252-246-9440

The Rockslut
01-05-2002, 02:11 PM
Yeah the tranny is the same except for the 4.0 has the window in the bellhousing for the CPS. The newer 999 tranny also has a lock up conveter. Doubt the CJ had the lockup. You can bolt the 300 on the back without the adapter as long as your tranny is 23 spline, but it will hand down to far for a YJ skid plate to work.

whatdaphuk
01-06-2002, 07:55 AM
have you thought about swapping in a 242? It has part-time and full-time and does not need to be modified for flat towing. Plus, it is a direct swap. The only down side is it is just as big as the 231(the 300 is 4 or 5 inches shorter)

Blitzed
01-06-2002, 06:31 PM
You can not just bolt up a 300 behind a ax-15,aw-4,nv3500. They all need a spacer or clocking ring (fancy spacer) the ax and aw need a spacer that is just over 3/4 thick and the nv3500 needs one that is 1/8 thick. the only tranny out of a yj/tj that a 300 will bolt right up to is the tf999. The one ring i sell is for the aw-4 and ax-15 it act's as an adapter and a clocking ring it is similer to the go2 twister only thicker for ax-15,aw-4 applications.
the ring has 5 possible positions each position moveing the t-case up ten deg. for added ground/tranny clearance....but to use the top postions you will need to cut the floor or have a body lift.

el General
01-06-2002, 07:25 PM
Blitzed...where abouts are you in Canada?

I am in the process of acquiring a Dana 300 and would like to get one of your adapters. I am using the AX-15. The Jeep is a 95 YJ.

email me with the details...

jeepfreaks@msn.com
:D

DEO1tonJEEP
01-07-2002, 04:39 AM
You do NOT need a clocking/spacer to install a Dana 300 behind a AX-15 or a NV3550, If you use our special input bearing and modify the input housing slightly. Common hand tools will do the job. It is stonger than using clocking ring/spacer, because it bolts up just like stock and it saves the lost driveline length used with a spacer. The kit cost $100. Thanks Roberthttp://downeastoffroad.com

Bert
01-07-2002, 12:10 PM
Hey, Down East Off Road,

Glad to see ya here. AS soon as my cash flow evens out I will be purchasing this stuff from ya too.

I have already spoken with someone from your store on the phone and would go with what you say for sure in this case.

It may take me awhile, But you can wait :D right? :D

I like the idea of gear drive, tera low, twin stick, and disc brakes. I know you dont have the disc brake, but I found one of them here too. ;)

xmbldx
01-07-2002, 04:08 PM
if i understand correctly in order to run the ax15 and the 300 i either need the clocking ring\spacer or modify the housing and use a special bearing is this correct and to run the 999 and the 300 a clocking ring\ spacer is not necesarry except for the tcase hangs dangerously low and the stock belly pan cant be used

Blitzed
01-07-2002, 05:25 PM
there is no strenght loss with using the clocking ring! you get full spline engagment and since the ring is "sandwiched" between the tranny/t-case the chance of twisting a bolt off is next to nill. The ring is attched to the t-case via machine screws so it will not move side ways/twist on the t-case. As for the studs there is 6 studs with just under a inch of thread depth...take 6 and divide by the torque and its not very much, same as it is originaly! Plus you gain ground clearance all for 60 dollers more (160 US depending on exchange).

JasonTJ
01-08-2002, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Blitzed
You can not just bolt up a 300 behind a ax-15,aw-4,nv3500. They all need a spacer or clocking ring (fancy spacer) the ax and aw need a spacer that is just over 3/4 thick and the nv3500 needs one that is 1/8 thick. the only tranny out of a yj/tj that a 300 will bolt right up to is the tf999. The one ring i sell is for the aw-4 and ax-15 it act's as an adapter and a clocking ring it is similer to the go2 twister only thicker for ax-15,aw-4 applications.
the ring has 5 possible positions each position moveing the t-case up ten deg. for added ground/tranny clearance....but to use the top postions you will need to cut the floor or have a body lift.

Wonder how mine stays in there then:confused: :flipoff2:

Blitzed
01-08-2002, 05:44 PM
All the 300's iv put on to ax-15's needed a 7/8ths spacer!! Oh you can bolt it up but the intput bearing housing of the 300 will hit on the rear seal housing of the ax-15 leaving...wow a magic 7/8ths gap. i wonder why i said to use a spacer?? same thing happens with aw-4's and nv3500's. Althought on the 3500 the gap is only 1/8th sine there is no seal and it the output bottoming in the input of the 300.:D

Blitzed
01-08-2002, 05:50 PM
Jasontj...what year is your tj? are you sure its a ax-15 and not a nv3500? Did you install the 300? in not the im guessing that who ever did milled/ground off 1/8th of the output of a nv3500. This can be done since there is no splines on the first 1/8th anyways. If not i would love to see some pic's of the ax-15 you have so i can see what is so different about it than all the ones iv seen. Thanx for any info!

NothernAZxj
01-08-2002, 06:16 PM
hye blitzed you have someone out there using your buisness name to send out viruses in an attachment....the re sponse id to the email I sent you directly...

..just thought you might wanna know

reads:


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Re: dana 300 to xj auto

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Blitzed
01-08-2002, 08:46 PM
i think you must have me mixed up...im not from down east off-road. Im just me my self and I, you never sent me and e-mail so feel free to opem mine people.

NothernAZxj
01-09-2002, 05:20 AM
OOPS.....MY BAD!:D

sould have been DEO1tonJEEP

JasonTJ
01-09-2002, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by Blitzed
Jasontj...what year is your tj? are you sure its a ax-15 and not a nv3500? Did you install the 300? in not the im guessing that who ever did milled/ground off 1/8th of the output of a nv3500. This can be done since there is no splines on the first 1/8th anyways. If not i would love to see some pic's of the ax-15 you have so i can see what is so different about it than all the ones iv seen. Thanx for any info!

I should of clarified. Mine is a NV3550 and I did shave about 1/8 off the output shaft of the tranny to make it fit nice

Blitzed
01-09-2002, 09:28 AM
As i thought so my statment was true and you just thought that you should act like an ass...:flipoff2: You had me worried for a min thinking that there was some kinda wierd ax-15 with a deep outputseal. Thanx for clairifying;)

XtremeGod
01-09-2002, 10:09 AM
Hey Blitzed do you have an adapter/clocking ring to hook the 300 up to a TH350? If not, do you know anyone who has one?

Blitzed
01-09-2002, 02:16 PM
No i dont all i sell is clocking rings i call some of them adapters since you need them to put the 300 on some tranny's but all they really are is spacers. If you get a th350 to 300 adapter then i can hook up up with a clocking ring. AA would be your best bet.

ledjer
01-23-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Blitzed
Just thought i would add this. I sell an adapter/clocking ring for putting a 300 behind the ax-15,aw-4. i also sell clocking rings for any other tranny. i sell them for 160 US and they can be shipped ups or purolater in a letter format so it is very in expensive.

Try www.jeepxtreme.com, they have a rotator for $140. Save $20 bucks.