I am doing the 4.5 inch lift on my JY and it looks like the spring bolt is too long and is running into the top of the spring pad on the bottom of the axle. Has anyone ever herad of this happening before? And how can I get around it?

got a typo there no jy but YJ

Cut till it fits, problem solved.

If you are using the supplied shims then it shouldn't bottom out into the spring perch. If it is too long, then clamp the spring pack together and remove the bolt. Either cut it down or purchase a shorter centering pin from a suspension shop.

now do I use the degree shims on the front? I thought they were supposed to go on the rear.

i've got the same lift-
first of all you will need larger than the supplied 2 1/2* shims for the rear if you keep the transcase up. i didn't lower the case and couldn't even get the driveshaft connected. i did the SYE/CV. i am running 12* shims and have NO vibes. the spring centering bolt should not be giving you probs cause it is inserted from the top of the spring pack, down. if it is too long it will just hang down too much and saw off the excess. the round head is only flush on top of the springs and goes in the perch hole. i had to use a longer bolt cause of the fat 12* shim. these bolts are a weak link and i have sheered a few of them on the rocks. i should re-weld the perches and do away with the shims.

you don't need any shims in the front. get it aligned when done. don't tighten the front shackles too much- experiment with it to get a good pvmt ride.

the spring pin on the front spring does appear to be too long since it is running into the top of the spring pad. Why is this?? I am also having trouble with me track bark relocation bracket. The bolt with that dosen't fit into the axle mount for the track bar. This is very annoying since this is my daily driver and it is taking so fucking long to get this done. So the pin is too long. and I can't get my track bar relocation brakcet in because the bolt is a different size. It is bigger than the bolt that was there before.

Originally posted by sas87yj
i've got the same lift-
first of all you will need larger than the supplied 2 1/2* shims for the rear if you keep the transcase up. i didn't lower the case and couldn't even get the driveshaft connected. i did the SYE/CV. i am running 12* shims and have NO vibes. the spring centering bolt should not be giving you probs cause it is inserted from the top of the spring pack, down. if it is too long it will just hang down too much and saw off the excess. the round head is only flush on top of the springs and goes in the perch hole. i had to use a longer bolt cause of the fat 12* shim. these bolts are a weak link and i have sheered a few of them on the rocks. i should re-weld the perches and do away with the shims.

you don't need any shims in the front. get it aligned when done. don't tighten the front shackles too much- experiment with it to get a good pvmt ride.

Just one question... sas87yj, did your 87 yj have that rare IFS, that necessitated a Solid Axle Swap? :D
Scott :grinpimp:<><

IFS? say what?
i still don't get the prob with the spring centering bolt. if you put it through the spring and the spring plate and tighten the nut then just the bolt head is above the spring. the front trackbar issue is same as i had to deal with. i drilled out the hole in the mount at the axle to fit the larger bolt.

well I am quite annoyed with the spring now. I was fitting it to the spring pad with the plate underneath and the fucking pin broke. I love this craftsmanship that I got on the springs. Simply fabulous.

Originally posted by sanyi83
This is very annoying since this is my daily driver and it is taking so fucking long to get this done. So the pin is too long. and I can't get my track bar relocation brakcet in because the bolt is a different size. It is bigger than the bolt that was there before.


:rolleyes:This is why they have 4x4 shops for you fawkin idiots who dont know and cant figure out what the fawk your doing.:flipoff2:

FAWKIN NEWBIES:rolleyes:

Trailhawg

you know what shithead suck my dick:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by sanyi83
you know what shithead suck my dick:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :beer: :flipoff2: :laughing:

4X4 shops? i thought this board was here for one purpose to help each other out on their projects and to keep OUT of the shops!:) NEWBIE? what's that? you gotta be kiddin.........i CRAP bigger than you punks. now let's get back to what i'm here for- jeep talk!:) how did you manage to break the centering bolt? damn dude!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sas87yj
4X4 shops? i thought this board was here for one purpose to help each other out on their projects and to keep OUT of the shops!:) NEWBIE? what's that? you gotta be kiddin.........i CRAP bigger than you punks. now let's get back to what i'm here for- jeep talk!:) how did you manage to break the centering bolt? damn dude! [/QUOTE

]i doubt you crap bigger then me but i cut center bolts with a sawsall and before that i used a hack saw and alot of people here run biusnesses related to 4x4s Including me. So tell me can you make everything you need ? You never have bougt or paid for anything on your vehicle? If so maybe you do crap bigger then the rest of US PUNKS. Go fawk your self newbie:flipoff2: maybe you should read before you open your :rainbow: mouth I was bustin his balls and he took it in good humour.Maybe you shouldn't worry about it. Maybe you should go read the sticky labeled JEEP TALK MISSION STATEMENT-NEWBIES READ THIS or go back to JU(a place I have never been but I know alot of you come from):flipoff2: :rainbow: newbie :rainbow:

Trailhawg

]i doubt you crap bigger then me but i cut center bolts with a sawsall and before that i used a hack saw and alot of people here run biusnesses related to 4x4s Including me. So tell me can you make everything you need ? You never have bougt or paid for anything on your vehicle? If so maybe you do crap bigger then the rest of US PUNKS. Go fawk your self newbie maybe you should read before you open your mouth I was bustin his balls and he took it in good humour.Maybe you shouldn't worry about it. Maybe you should go read the sticky labeled JEEP TALK MISSION STATEMENT-NEWBIES READ THIS or go back to JU(a place I have never been but I know alot of you come from) newbie

glad to see you haven't lost your touch!:) STOP the verbal abuse- i can't take it anymore!:)

I put the REE 4.5 YJ springs on my CJ this spring and the pins in the front were too long. Clamp the spring pack together remove the pin take a spacer off and put it together. And that is all you have to do as far as the rest of your YJ questions I don't know I have a CJ.:eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D

I don't know how the center pin broke. I was trying to position the spring and the thing snapped. Got to try and remove it now and get another pin. The main problem for me is that the spring is still on the car right now. and I am not sure if I have a clamp that I can use.

ok now that I am SOL for the center pin where can I get another to replace it? And what kind of bolt should I use to replace it with?

You can pick up leaf spring center bolts at any reputatable auto parts store. Measure the broken bolt (hell bring it with) and get one short enough for your application.

i use grade 5 or 8 hex head bolts and grind down the head to fit in the perch.

Dont go buy a centerpin, most of them are pieces of shit that always break and bend. What i did is buy a stick of all thread cut it. Get a couple of nuts on each side and your done, not to mention you have some spares.

hey thanks all. I fixed the problem earlier today. I got a hex head that fit into the hole on the spring pad and just used that. Works perfectly. Thanks for all your help the front is basically done except I am having trouble getting the sway bar disconnects off the sway bar. the little fuckers don't want to come off.:( Any ideas?

Take the trackbars off and throw them in the trash. You don't see them on CJ's do you? They limit articulation and you will break the extension brackets off in no time anyway, unless you're doing the lift for looks and never take it wheeling. I ran my YJ with a 4" Pro-Compt lift for years and never had a problem.

How can I get the pitman arm to the 185 foot lbs that it requires with out an impact wrench?? I was just thinking of getting it as far as I can and then taking it to a shop. Sincemy torque wrench only goes to 150. Guess I could rent one.

plenty of PB blaster and i took the sway bar apart enough to let it hang down so i could get a good swing at it with the hammer. a pickle fork may help. the pitman arm is usually hard to get off. i didn't torque mine to 185 lbs but just used a big crecent and a cheater pipe. hasn't budged since. if you have the right size socket- crank it to 150 and that is good enough or hit it again with the wrench/cheater. i left my front track bar on but it will limit your articulation. the rear is history.