Hillarious thread of pathetic snobby Rover owners whining about going to HUGE 35" tires:

Here's an excerpt: (describing Jeep owners)

They are instead being saddled with the stereo type of a half wit, acne covered, three balled, littering, beer guzzling, teen-age moron from hell. Maybe I am the old guy on Disco Web, being over forty and remembering when Series trucks were new. But I like the fact that Land Rover does not have that sort of reputation. Lastly Tom, there is something about putting monster tires on a Rover that is saying there isn't anything that different about Land Rover, so I need to do what other guys are doing. Well, I think Rover is the best 4x4xfar. And I think a good 235, 265 or even Ho's 255s aired down are going to go anywhere the Jeep knuckleheads are going and do it with a lot more style and class.

And here's the link:

http://www.discoweb.org/discus/messages/9/6906.html?1009411297

i am now going to change my sigline to exclude any mention of "Rover"... what a FAWKING DICKHEAD!!!!!!!!!!! damn him to hell, that :rainbow: homo.

"oooooo my land rover is special, and i hate jeep people running MONSTER 35" tires! i am better with my open diffs and 31s"

:rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:

'nother excerpt:

"The bigger the tire and the slinkier the truck , the less reliable it is over the long term."

what a :rainbow: !!!

its obvious he dont know shiat, so i dont know why im going to get into this. ill just have to show him up on the trail :D :D :D

i'll try discoweb and look for it.
shon

discoweb.org

I see you have found Kyle.

I think everyone should go over and bust on his views

:)

:rolleyes:
Glad that guy does't control the progress of modern rock crawling. What a BOZO.
happy new year all - hoping 2002 brings you very large tires , and lots o travel !!!
weldpro

Quotes from that thread:

"I think that they would have not had to trim sooo much if they added more lift to the truck. I think 2 inches of lift to fit 35s is just not enough."

My reply: You're missing the point . . . the less lift you have to use the better.

"By the way, that site froze my computer. I had to re-boot the whole system."

My reply: Whinny bitch. :crybaby:

"If they were building competition trucks I could understand but most of these fat tired hacked up bastards barely leave their home state and they surely arent competing in anything."

My reply: Aren't the trucks that they are primarily refering to meant to be competition trucks, or ARE competition trucks?

Besides, at least our competitions are more than seeing who can complete the 1,000,000-mile gravel road in the rain the fastest.

Actually, that last one was unfair. I am all for any competition almost. They're just two different types. Whatever floats your boat! But when's the last time you saw a Rover place top ten in any RC comp running a 2" lift, swaybar disconnects, and 31" tires.

J. J.

Thanks for posting that Bill, I didn't realize we were such a bunch of Dumb ass's until now. ;)

It's sad too cause this this is starting to look nice

http://www.discoweb.org/martingeveke/MonsterDisco.jpg


(I really hope the pics works **crossing my fingers**)

Some long winded SOBs over there.

Originally posted by BillaVista
Hillarious thread of pathetic snobby Rover owners whining about going to HUGE 35" tires:

Here's an excerpt: (describing Jeep owners)

They are instead being saddled with the stereo type of a half wit, acne covered, three balled, littering, beer guzzling, teen-age moron from hell. Maybe I am the old guy on Disco Web, being over forty and remembering when Series trucks were new. But I like the fact that Land Rover does not have that sort of reputation. Lastly Tom, there is something about putting monster tires on a Rover that is saying there isn't anything that different about Land Rover, so I need to do what other guys are doing. Well, I think Rover is the best 4x4xfar. And I think a good 235, 265 or even Ho's 255s aired down are going to go anywhere the Jeep knuckleheads are going and do it with a lot more style and class.

And here's the link:

http://www.discoweb.org/discus/messages/9/6906.html?1009411297 your :rainbow:

your (little rainbow coloured thingey)

Brutus,
Are you talking to me?? I hope not, sunshine!

If so, not only do you miss my point, but I completely miss the point of the picture of your rig

Originally posted by evilfij
discoweb.org

I see you have found Kyle.

I think everyone should go over and bust on his views

:)

This could get ugly! :eek: :eek: :vader:

Originally posted by BillaVista


Brutus,
Are you talking to me?? I hope not, sunshine!

If so, not only do you miss my point, but I completely miss the point of the picture of your rig did you write that :eek: :eek: :D :D :usa:

Here's a rover with 36" swampers in the for sale sec. This guy must be smarter than the rest of the rover guy's.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20786

Originally posted by flimmy
Here's a rover with 36" swampers in the for sale sec. This guy must be smarter than the rest of the rover guy's.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20786

defender guys typically dont have the same attitude... i see it mostly with disco and some range rover guys. its still really sad though.

after being forced to follow 5 or 6 of em across sherwood rd. here in willits last year i must say i am in no way impressed. they must have been in low range on the fire road. winching up what seemed to be 10 degree inclines. they finall had the common courtesy after about 45 minutes to ease over to the side of the road and let us pass. all it really is is a fire road that gets nice and muddy. and i can vow they are not elitists. they were not very considerate either. we picked up numerous heinekens on our way up and lo and behold, what were they drinking.
god i hope to be able to approach the godlike stature of a few of those guys in that thread. think i'll sell my 39.5's and get me a set of 235/75/15's. then it's off to the con....
shon

Originally posted by brutus
your :rainbow:

That truck is looking great, why are you putting it into the trash can with that fork lift? :)

35's large? The trail I was on yeasterday only had one rig running 35's, the other 11 rigs were running 37-42 tires.

Originally posted by Chris Geiger


That truck is looking great, why are you putting it into the trash can with that fork lift? :)

35's large? The trail I was on yeasterday only had one rig running 35's, the other 11 rigs were running 37-42 tires. going to build a new one :D :D :usa:

Originally posted by Chris Geiger


That truck is looking great, why are you putting it into the trash can with that fork lift? :)

Bwaaahhahahaha hahaha ROGLMFAO :D :D :jester: :jester: :D :D

:flipoff2: From a middle aged Jeeper..."Fuck the bloody Queen you limey bastard" with that said, who cares what those goofs think!!!

I thought we weren't going to do the BB wars things anymore. :confused: :rolleyes:

Well they are right about 32's being big enough. That is exactly what my daily driver has, but when it is time to actually lock in hubs I will keep my, how would you describe 38's if 35's are huge, 38's and drive over his rover just as soon as his 255's get him stuck on an obstacle.:smokin: Of course maybe I should get me a pocket protector, a tie, and a disco on 31's:flipoff2:

Originally posted by flimmy
Here's a rover with 36" swampers in the for sale sec. This guy must be smarter than the rest of the rover guy's.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20786

For putting 36" Swampers on it or selling it? :)

J. J.

If he's an older guy over 40..........., What, I have to give up my Gawked up jeep,in a couple of years, buy a ugly a** rover and what, join a disco club.
Man, can this go on

"Well, I think Rover is the best 4x4xfar ( :rainbow: ). And I think a good 235, 265 or even Ho's 255s aired down are going to go anywhere the Jeep knuckleheads ( :rainbow: ) are going and do it with a lot more style and class."

Class, huh... that guy is gonna get his ass kicked. :mad3:

Well at least we have a good excuse to talk sh!t now. :skull:

Originally posted by BillaVista
Hillarious thread of pathetic snobby Rover owners whining about going to HUGE 35" tires:

Here's an excerpt: (describing Jeep owners)


... bla bla bla...

Originally posted by brutus
your :rainbow: and in the next reply did you write that :eek: :eek: :D :D :usa:

Having a little trouble understanding? :flipoff2:

if i have a hacked up, dented up, jeep on 38.5's does that make me :rainbow: ?????

Originally posted by high5
if i have a hacked up, dented up, jeep on 38.5's does that make me :rainbow: ?????

No, the fact that you are :rainbow: makes you :rainbow: :flipoff2: Don't bring the Jeep into it! :D

man they are the biggest bunch of long winded pusses i have ever heard of. i read about 1/2 the thread then got cross eyed and said screw it. how come i can't find any of the guys on the trails. mike

One thing to keep in mind is that the Disco.org site has historically been a bunch of whinny, opinionated ass*oles that ever walked the face of the earth. When I put a 3-link on the front of my D90 there was a massive flame feast between the Disco crybabies and the D90 list. I claimed better front articulation, they claimed that it wasn't' safe during a 70mph panic stop...When I mentioned that I had done a panic stop at that speed they wouldn't listen, called my 90 a trailer queen etc. (she's a true queen now though ;)). Contempt prior to investigation is the primary mode on the Disco board...I honestly think that they are jealous in that their wives didn't let them buy a 90, and had to settle on a Disco...Continually spending huge $ trying to make them "as good" as D90's, Jeeps, whatever else w/4 wheel drive).

I should state that the above is a (somewhat) over-generalization of Disco owners as a whole...There are one or two that I've met that actually USE there trucks, and don't talk smack whenever your back is turned...But not often! :flipoff2:

--D

Having a little trouble understanding?

Paul,

I think he thought (thinks?) that i posted that quote with an attitude agreeing with them (the whiney Kyle and co.), instead of my true motivation to heap upon them the scorn and ridicule they so richly deserve.

Then I think dumpster buggy guy posted a pic of his rig to show me how badass he is :rolleyes:

Then he missed my subtle (NOT) dig at his doing that :eek:

and now I've gone and used way to many big words again!

Doug,

"Contempt prior to investigation"

BS man. You know as well as I do that the Safari garbage 3link has failed TWICE is high profile situations. And Greg even went so far as to tell people it was a clutch when the mags were there (I have never seen a rover clutch fail without lots of warning which made me wondert when it first happened).

On top of all this, SG has now made the replacement x memeber a requirement, something that is appauling that they did not do sooner (the stock x member where the 3rd link mounts is tubular steel only slightly thicker than exhaust pipe)

Well I may not go along with Kyle on a lot of things I have to go along with him on the 3link. Its not a sound design, even with the new x member, especially on a overwieght disco or 110 and the bigger the tire you run the worse it is.


Ron

hahahah just got done doing my fair share of sh!T talking :D wow I've been nice to too many people for too long...it felt good to stretch my :evil: legs again :D

here's what I said

"Wow!!!! Glad I stumbled into here! muhahahah! I love latte' and mocha and every kind of starbucks generated caffeine product while I drive my $40k rover down the trail causing environment impact and damage because I choose to run tiny tires and winch over everything.

Wholey hell the majority of you people are so highly uneducated about 'wheelin' it makes me sick to my stomach that I share the trails with you.

Granted I know a few people who posted here ;) in response to this BS so I am obviously not talking about them.

Keep your 235s 255s and 265s on the fawkin' road where they belong and quit digging open diff ditches with your heavy, slow, starbuck cruisin' leather havin', ego expanding, shit talkin' Land losers!

Send an e-mail to this acne havin' big tire wearing jeeper! talk sh!t to my face. fiveohjeep@hotmail.com

Oh yea and see MY JEEP not break parts @ http://www.jeepsides.homestead.com/jeepsideshome.html"

:D

so tell us how you REALLY feel Sillyneck

:D :D

Damn...I went back to see if anyone talked crap to me....looks like the thread got deleted :( And oddly right after I posted :D Damn yuppie faggots.

I'm over it....that little post drew the line...I am no longer going to be courteous to everyone on the trail.

I guess I am going to take my acne covered beer guzzling @$$ to the trails with the a new attitude towards those who don;t belong out there. :D

Originally posted by Sillyneck
Damn...I went back to see if anyone talked crap to me....looks like the thread got deleted :( And oddly right after I posted :D Damn yuppie faggots.

I'm over it....that little post drew the line...I am no longer going to be courteous to everyone on the trail.

I guess I am going to take my acne covered beer guzzling @$$ to the trails with the a new attitude towards those who don;t belong out there. :D

It's still there Silly:
http://www.discoweb.org/discus/messages/9/6906.html?1010062607

Rover drivers.. there are a few that know their sh!t and aren't stuck up. not a lot though.

hmm.... 235 tires... yeah.. well tell that to the guys that high centered on the rock crawl section in Team Trophy Challenge last year. Me and another guy had to get them off after they timed out only making it 150 yards.

This rover team had no fawkin clue how to drive, how to winch, how to get them selves out of a stuck, or even common sense. I remembered one guy cry at me "it's gonna scrap my leaf spring". big fawkin WAH! I told him to shut the hell up and get in. It's a fawkin leaf spring.. like sliding off a rock for 2" is going to hurt it. How frustrating were these two morons? After the judge timed them out.. he had to leave he couldn't take their idiocy.

Rover drivers.. I have little respect for the masses of them.

BTW - for you clueless rover drivers... the ones that say 235 or 255's are enough? My stock Dodge tow rig could kick your a$$es as long as it fits down the trail (of course).

Originally posted by evilfij
Doug,

"Contempt prior to investigation"

BS man. You know as well as I do that the Safari garbage 3link has failed TWICE is high profile situations. And Greg even went so far as to tell people it was a clutch when the mags were there (I have never seen a rover clutch fail without lots of warning which made me wondert when it first happened).

On top of all this, SG has now made the replacement x memeber a requirement,

Ron

Hi Ron!

Well first of all, the two failures were of PROTOTYPE designs...The first being at the Twist-Off 2000, and the second on Greg's own vehicle. His clutch did fail prior to the x-member failing (again prototype 3-link). His stock clutch failed because he's running a pumped 3.9 turning 300hp. The 3-link/x-member failed because he was trying to make up some time (on the 24 hours of the Hammers event) and hit some whoop's at 65+mph...The mount to the x-member wasn't what was produced for the masses (zero gussets).

I'm not trying to re-hash what's been bantered on about ad-nausium, but facts are facts. When you place a specialized product on any vehicle (clearly marked for "off-road only" use) then you should understand some simple compromises. When you run bead-locks on the street for thousands of on-road miles, you should expect some bolt failures. Same holds true for a very specialized modification to the stock suspension...A'la 3-link. The bottom line is that anyone that seriously modifies a vehicle he/she should have a detailed understanding of the mechanical and structural properties of the system being installed...If you choose not to, then you should also be whiling to accept the consequences.

--D

I think the pathetic comments on the Discoweb forum are just more evidence of the influence of Land Rover's amazing marketing machine on the buyers of their products. I happen to wheel with Land Rover guys who actually USE their trucks, mostly D90 but also Disco owners, but what happens with fools like this happens with ALL brands of vehicles. You're not going to tell me that the multitude of Wrangler jockeys out there with 3" body lifts and chrome wheels with the wrong offset have anything in common with serious Jeepers, right? I can't tell you how many times my friendly wave towards newer Land Cruiser owners gets ignored or answered with a snobby look...I can see them wondering, "why is that redneck in the giant truck with all that steel over it waving at me?".

Ultimately, there are TOOLS who buy the crap that companies like Jeep, Toyota and Land Rover spew, truly believing that their stockish rigs are the best 4x4 in the world...

At a recent Land Rover event I attended, I met some of the coolest people ever, who were beating the crap out of their Rovers, anything from Series II's to newish Range Rovers. Unfortunately, there were also khaki-clad, latte-drinking, Daktari-wannabes who looked down at my Land Cruiser and made it a point to tell me how much better than my rig their luxoboats where...

Wheelers are like a microcosm of the greater American society; we have a bunch of cool people and an overwhelming multitude of assholes, it's a question of figuring people out and wheeling with those that matter, and ignoring the rest of the idiots. I just don't think it's brand-specific or a Land Rover-only phenomenom...

I went and talked more sh!t :D

Originally posted by 60seriesguy

At a recent Land Rover event I attended, I met some of the coolest people ever, who were beating the crap out of their Rovers, anything from Series II's to newish Range Rovers. Unfortunately, there were also khaki-clad, latte-drinking, Daktari-wannabes who looked down at my Land Cruiser and made it a point to tell me how much better than my rig their luxoboats where...

Wheelers are like a microcosm of the greater American society; we have a bunch of cool people and an overwhelming multitude of assholes, it's a question of figuring people out and wheeling with those that matter, and ignoring the rest of the idiots. I just don't think it's brand-specific or a Land Rover-only phenomenom...

Well said 60seriesguy!

--D

Hi Doug,

Whatever happened (no point in beating a dead horse) the design definately has some faults which makes it potentially dangerous (in my eyes). I will freely admit it works great offroad, but that is not enough to make up the difference to me.

My point was while you may disagree with Kyle, to paint him as some stuck up latte drinking no nothing snob could not be farther from the truth. Yes, he has some odd viewpoints that but he does know his stuff and somehow I don't think he drinks lattes. Whatever makes you happy is what I always say. If Kyle wants to run 32s at 55psi with stock woodhead shocks let him. If you want to put danas and chop the fenders on a D90, go for it. Too many people worry too much about crap like that.

:)

60 seriesguy

right on!

Ron

i can't get http://www.discoweb.org to work :confused::confused::confused::confused:

it's a frame issue...or a latte' thing...try to hold a latte'!!! damn it didn't work for me.

Even if you go to yahoo it'll say your browser doesn't support the sites frames or something.

I got there yesterday...not sure why it's different today.

Originally posted by evilfij
Hi Doug,

Whatever happened (no point in beating a dead horse) the design definately has some faults which makes it potentially dangerous (in my eyes). I will freely admit it works great offroad, but that is not enough to make up the difference to me.

My point was while you may disagree with Kyle, to paint him as some stuck up latte drinking no nothing snob could not be farther from the truth. Yes, he has some odd viewpoints that but he does know his stuff and somehow I don't think he drinks lattes. Whatever makes you happy is what I always say. If Kyle wants to run 32s at 55psi with stock woodhead shocks let him. If you want to put danas and chop the fenders on a D90, go for it. Too many people worry too much about crap like that.

Ron

I don't think I ever called Kyle a latte drinking know-nothing snob...At least not publicly! :flipoff2: I'm in the same boat as you man...Whatever makes your boat float then so be it. It's just that Kyle, Ho and the others are always soooooo quick to point out (in public forums) how fawked up everybody else?s designs are...Except the ones that THEY have and/or agree with. Hence I never even set foot on the Disco web...Just don't need that type of aggravation. When a fabricator/designer of an "off-road only" product pushes the envelope with a new design, then my hat is off to them...Even if I don't like the product. I sure don't see Kyle or Ho marketing anything...Except their dissatisfaction with others products. Hmmmm. Maybe we should take this over to chit-chat.

--D

what an asshole.If he were in charge we would be taking ford excursion up the con with 20's and clear tail lights with the 4 15's bumpn in the trunk with rap. Rand rovers are over priced yuppy P.O.S 4x4s. Every one know that Toyota and jeep can out wheel any $40,000 pile of crap like that. Keep the gay street pounds in the city with thier leather int.:rainbow: This guy has only ever used his push botton 4x4 in parking lot because his 29 inch super tall tire got his stuck on a parking curb that he was trying to drive over.

"I sure don't see Kyle or Ho marketing anything...Except their dissatisfaction with others products"

Just as an FYI

www.expeditionexchange.com

That is John Lee's and Ho's company, nice spring retainers (his and John's own design) and lots of other things as well. If you search the site you will see the bumper Kyle makes to mount a ramsey RE 12000 to a disco which is a nice piece of kit.

Ron

Hmmmmmm. A bunch of stuff that's available anywhere...I will grant you that the spring retainers are nice, but the same thing can be accomplished with a couple of pieces of 1" x 3/16th strap. I didn't see Kyles bumper on there, but I'm sure it's well thought out. Great! But I'll never endorse their product(s?) simply because they are so quick to bash anything (and anyone) that doesn't agree with their supreme viewpoints. You sure don't see SG, GBR, ECR, RW or any of the other vendors doing that. Nope. They can take there superior designed spring retainers and go f.......Never mind.

--D

Why don't we just put assfault roads and street signs on the con so poeple like that can wheel and not tear they nice rigs up?:flipoff2:

"but the same thing can be accomplished with a couple of pieces of 1" x 3/16th strap"

Ha! You mean just like the ones Safari Gard sold me (FYI: 1 1/2"x 3/16ths) and I put on the disco. They have held up really well. I mean other than the massive bend in the top part, replacement of the bottom part, and the 6 HD hose clamps I had to shore them up with they have performed fine!

2in x 1/4in is what I put on the RR and the 110 has an H pattern made of 3/8ths only because I am too much of a DIY cheap bastard to pay John and Ho for a set of theirs.

Do what you like but if you think 1in x 3/16ths will hold you don't wheel as much as I think you do.

Ya lets pave the con! That makes sense.

Ron

Woo Hoo!! We're having fun here!!!

Ron, you know how hard I wheel my D90 and I've never, ever had a problem with my 3-link, from ramming rocks, to jumping boulders (literally), mud running, recovering frame rigs from bottomless mud pits, and high speed whoops on the sand and riverbeds. Yes, I'm running the supercharger on my 3.9 and I'm guessing I'm pushing about 250hp. Not quite Greg's 300hp, but not bad in its own right. So you want to tell me that with all that beating, the 3-link isn't holding up??? HAH! That's ok though, I know you're still addled with that disco that seems to be affecting your mind. Finish the 110 and then we'll go ahead and beat up the real rigs! :D

As far as the discoweb guys, I learned long ago not to listen to them. They have their opinions and are set in their ways. You won't see those guys running the 'con with their 33' tires, but I know that if they set their minds to it they could. They would just end up using the winch a bit more than the rest of us. I did have my D110 out on the 'con with 33s once just because that's what I had at the moment. Tell you what, it did pretty well anyway!

So.. we (the rover contingent) have our idiots too. Sorry.. I'll wheel with you guys anytime and I know I can help to put your stereotypes to rest.

See you on the trail!

-John

I've seen John's rig while it was at Roggy's, looks stout and very capiable. Maybe not a rock buggy, but not everything on the trail has to be...........Hope to meet you John, on the trail. As far as the other rover owners, it sounds like the JU board.......So not a place I'll even think about visiting...............

John,

I know man, if you can't break it no one will :). But you can't tell me that the third link could not easily be hit and kinked. Then you head out on the interstate, have to panic stop with 37s then with all that force that link then will fold and boom you are in a wreck.

Too much for me to put on a hollow piece of steel.

Ron

And about not seeing them on the con.

Fawk it, I am sure some owners have. Frank made it through Lower 2 in tellico, in a disco on 33s. We ran every trail in Uwharrie on a disco on 30s! (at the price of lots of crunching) Have you seen where Marty takes his truck? Not bad if you ask me. and there are a fair number of similar owners including your favorite discoweb members.

Look I know this is not upper helldorado, and I agree we have our fair share of idiots in the rover community, but to bust on someone for not massively hacking their truck to be extreme is :rainbow: especially in a rover on rover axles which as you know, even the HD ones go :nuke: as soon as you so much as breath on them wrong with a front locker and 35s (or even 33s) and cost a fawking forture to get spares.

And like you say you can go an aweful lot of places in a locked rover with 33s, it just ain't popular to say thats what you run.

Ya the 110 will be great when it gets finished and I will probably head over to your coast to see whats what, but until then I will be happy wheeling the other rovers. Have not come across much round here they can't handle.

Ron

Ron

Frank has been to tellico a number of times, but to my knowledge he has never been up trail 2, his most recent photos of trail 2 were of me, another D90 and 2 RRs. One RR was running 35's and lets just say neither RR made it out under their own power.

On the 3-link note, many discoweb listers including kyle bashed the design. As you mentioned, whatever floats your boat is cool.
But when manufatures like SG create new and innovative designs some people just want to bash it, also fine as long as you have a legit argument. Well when Rich H, as you know, a professor of engineering entered the debate with hard facts and mathematics, kyles final response was that some things could not be expained like that, but that real world testing was paramount. So in the end, his real world testing is based on second hand misinformation about twistoff prototype failures, 24 hours/hammers failures, and hypothetical failures he's never conducted. What are those of us with any logical reasoning supposed to deduce from his arguement...he doesn't know what he is talking about regarding the 3-link.

JT

Well about the typical snobish attitude of most Rover drivers (not all). I have met some pretty good folks with rovers. Few with Series trucks mostly.
I wheel with a guy with a D90. Great truck stock but even better now that it is on 33's and ARB's in both pigs.
Even he hates most of the average rover drivers. He went to one of their events and the trail boss was hammered. NO common sence from the whole lot when it came to recovery. He witnessed somebody darn near get killed frome shear stupiditiy. Drunk bastard wasn't paying attention to the Drunk spotter ended up rolling a disco several times down a hill. Bunch of drunk spectators were standing down hill. Most scattered bu One guy fell into a rut and the rover rolled over him. Dumb luck the guy didn't get killed. Driver, unbelted, got beat around pretty good.
They stood around trying to figur out how to get the vehicle out for a couple hours then left it and went for more booze.
We tried to get the local rover group to participate in some of the roadless talks and 10 year revision. They showed up for 10 minutes then left. Just wasn't worth their time.

Originally posted by evilfij
John,

I know man, if you can't break it no one will :). But you can't tell me that the third link could not easily be hit and kinked. Then you head out on the interstate, have to panic stop with 37s then with all that force that link then will fold and boom you are in a wreck.

Too much for me to put on a hollow piece of steel.

Ron

Okay, last one...The third link is 1.25", .25" wall cromo tubing. I've dropped the whole truck on the link (after slipping off a rock) and all it did was gouge the powder-coating. With bushings at both ends I seriously doubt that it could ever be kinked...And if it did, I think it would be the last thing you'd be worried about.

O'yea...I meant 3/8th when I said 3/16ths...Yea I've seen the SG 3/16ths fail on Holy Cross...Greg even told me that 3/8ths was overkill on a spring retainer...Then down the trail...BOOOOINGGGNNNGGG! I had a good laugh on that one!

--D