Linked Chem to a guy on the MN board parting out a 83 Toyota. Chem called him up, and was able to get all this shit for $200:D Problem was the stuff was in Duluth, MN. My roomie went up there to watch some UMD vs U of M hockey, and get the Canadian strain of THE AIDS, so he picked up the stuff in between visits to the bars.

Just unloaded the crap.:D

nuther shot

last for now

FAWKEN AWESOME! :D

Thanks Austin for the lead and the storage. Thanks Houserman for the transporting. You guys are great!

It's a 22R, 4speed manual, t-case, front and rear drivelines, and front and rear axles from an 82 Toy Mini. I can't wait to get it home and start trying to figure out how I'm going to fit it all in the tiny assed Zook. Looks awefully long, so this should be fun...

Time to go whore out the search feature. :laughing:

You can take the Are for a rip when you pick the shit up:D

I'm gonna rape that trike for all she's worth. They don't call me Brian "250R-Molester" Goudie for nothing. :flipoff2:

Too bad we couldn't take it to the Kemper Open. :D Would be a blast drunk at Midnight.

Last thing we need at KO7 IS THE ARE. Two fiddy ares kill people. Specially ones with lots of mods:D Got 50+ horse?

Serious. 6th gear wheelies are not a problem :D

dayum...all that for only 2 bills:eek:

Yep, $200! :eek: :D :confused:

I guess it pays to have patience and hold out for the best deal. I have been looking FOREVER, then was going to take Erich's 1600 off of him but started running into problems finding it a trany and t-case combo that fit my budget. I couldn't get what all i needed, and I definately didn't have the cash for both the running gear AND the RingR AND the shipping. Then I found this guy thanks to LAME and scored more than i was looking for while paying less.

Sweet! :D

Man that was a no brainer!!!!!

Good Score Brian!!!!!

good buy chem!:cool: keep us posted on the build-up!

Canadian aids Eh? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Islandzuki
dayum...all that for only 2 bills:eek:

No kidding:eek: Around here that would buy you the front axle with about $40 to spare...... which definitely wouldn't cover the cost of the rest of it.
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You're right on the toy drivetrain being long. IIRC from bellhousing to the rear flange on a toy tranny and single T-case, it's something like 38 inches. And a toy still has a 3.5 - 4 foot long driveshaft.

Originally posted by TNToy
You're right on the toy drivetrain being long. IIRC from bellhousing to the rear flange on a toy tranny and single T-case, it's something like 38 inches. And a toy still has a 3.5 - 4 foot long driveshaft.

Long, yes... but the 82 Mini's had something like a 5 inch shorter trany. Austin measured from the bell to the output shafts end and it was 33 3/4 inches, so that helps a little. I'm thinking this is because it's the 4-speed trany not the 5-speed? Pure speculation right now.

I will be using the front CV shaft with in the rear and the rear shaft shortened in the front.

I would also like to shove the front axle forward a little with the help of Waggy springs, but I am having a hard time with the search function wading through all the mentions of "Waggy" and "Wagoneer" to find info on how Toy axle users who ran Waggy springs did it.

Also been contemplating shoving the rear axle back a few inches as well. Suppose I could run the same Waggy springs out back too, due to their pin offset, but again and struggling to find info on that as well. Just wanna read up on it so as to save myself some ass pain if there are issues I am unaware of.

Anyone have any insight on these questions? Do you lengthened Samurai guys think it's really worth all that work tpo gain a few inches by relocating axles? Or is it just an edgeyou went ahead and gained whiile you were in there hacking on shit?

DSI and rudezuk, didn't you guys run Waggy rear springs in back and Toy somethings up front?

Why's the sky blue?

How has Rosie O'Donnel not gotten murdered yet?

Why did all the dinosaurs die, yet crocadiles and alligators lived?

What's the reason Cops are drawn to Donuts?

Could I possibly ask anymore fawking questions in one posting?!? :laughing: :flipoff2: :laughing:

great $steal on the toyota stuff!!

minnesota is quietly known for having a wealth of good used mechanicals cheap because all the bodies and frames rot out so quickly. matter of fact i have seen several 1.3 oil pans lately that are pissing oil because rust has ate holes in them.

while most mechanicals are cheap up here, rust free bodies and D-60 fronts bring a premium $$.

seems that most of the front D-60 go to mud runners or are shipped out to california or nevada...wonder why the fawk that is :rolleyes:

btw...what the fawk is "the canadian strain of the AIDS"??? :eek:

Yeah, the early tranny's are much shorter, its not just the 4 speed though, the early mosel 83 5 speeds are the same length... In 84 the trannys got a lot longer and stronger as well... The T-case you have should be a top shifter, with noisy cut gears, but plenty strong... A great setup to start with to go towards dual cases...

Summary?

T-case is good and stout, like all gear-drive toy cases.
Early model trannis are shorter, but definitely weaker than the later 5 speeds. So no 200-HP shots of nitrous for you. :D

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Chemical442

"I would also like to shove the front axle forward a little with the help of Waggy springs, but I am having a hard time with the search function wading through all the mentions of "Waggy" and "Wagoneer" to find info on how Toy axle users who ran Waggy springs did it."



-->the way I look at it is this: regardless of the springs you choose, you are going to have to do proper spring perch placement, and if you want the best caster, and pinion angle, turning of the birfs *anyway* right? So it's now down to how far do you want the fronts of the springs to stick out. Lengthening the front frame? Then you can use long ass springs because you can push the hangers farther forward to make up for any loss of approach angle, and either keep the stock rear hangers for the front springs in the same location or if you have reeeeeeally long springs, move the rear mounts back as well.

I would pick the springs most easily available to you, should you need to replace broken ones, not just arbitrarily from a certain vehicle. YJ's are very plentiful, for example.

Are you gonna cut the leading edges of the front fenders? I would go as far ahead as you can with the axle placement*, while you've got it all exposed anyway, 'cause you're going to want to take advantage of those Toy axles and put 35's/37's on right? so you don't want to waste the opportunity to keep the backs of those tires out of your wheel well scrub zones.

*go too far and you may run into forward/rearward facing pitman arm trouble and how that relates to compression hitting of the drag link -see posts by Wayne on this. "battleship box" :D




"Also been contemplating shoving the rear axle back a few inches as well. Suppose I could run the same Waggy springs out back too, due to their pin offset, but again and struggling to find info on that as well. Just wanna read up on it so as to save myself some ass pain if there are issues I am unaware of."


-->again, I would go back as far as you can- if leaving the tank in it's stock location, this is about 2.5/3.0" max I believe)

I would decide on length of shackle you want to run for about say, a 45-50° angle, with the axle back as far as you can put it without hitting the tank.


with those two points known, (rear axle spring pad centering bolt hole and rear shackle hanging point) it doesn't really matter where the front eyes of the springs end up, 'cause you are going to have to make some new hangers anyway. (see Tusker's rear spring hanger pics:cool:)

Also, don't forget to incorporate an anti-wrap system! This may take up space without you realizing it, and placing the tank/axle relationship in the same place/same time:D might influence how far back you want to go.


"Anyone have any insight on these questions? Do you lengthened Samurai guys think it's really worth all that work tpo gain a few inches by relocating axles? Or is it just an edgeyou went ahead and gained whiile you were in there hacking on shit?"


--> If you are going to the trouble to do all this toy axle/driveline/different springs etc etc, I think you will find it not really any "extra" work at all, to get a few more inches of wheelbase.

Don't get me wrong, I love Sammies because they're so compact, but an extra 1/2 a foot or so of wheelbase won't change anything except for the better, in my opinion. If you haven't driven in them alot, prepare for ummm... not *quite* as cushy a ride that you may be used to, if staying with a stock-ish wheelbase:D

:D

What happened did you guys already give up on this project?

:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Frankie_Bones
What happened did you guys already give up on this project?

:flipoff2:



:flipoff2: Not even close to giving up, fawker. :flipoff2: Going up to Minnesota next Friday to get the shit, fawker. :flipoff2: Then wheeling with those crazy Minnesotans all weekend, fawker. :flipoff2: I suppose you build your rigs in all of 2 weeks, fawker? :flipoff2:

oh, and :flipoff2:


By the way... thanks for that info above, Uz. I meant to thank you but i guess I didnt. I have been looking into everything you said, tho.

You haven't removed the old suspension, cleaned up the chassis, figured out what wheel base you are going for? Nothing?

Originally posted by Frankie_Bones
You haven't removed the old suspension, cleaned up the chassis, figured out what wheel base you are going for? Nothing?




You aren't married or have kids, do you? :laughing:

You sound like my wife. THAT THING DONE YET?!?!?! :flipoff2:

No, I haven't removed the old suspension, cleaned up the chassis, figured out what wheel base I'm are going for yet. Nothing. My life doesn't revolve around my rig.

;)

find another board then fawker :flipoff2:
j/k
:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Chemical442



You aren't married or have kids, do you? :laughing:


;)


AMEN! Some people just don't understand.:D :rolleyes:

Jeff

Originally posted by Chemical442





You aren't married or have kids, do you? :laughing:

You sound like my wife. THAT THING DONE YET?!?!?! :flipoff2:

No, I haven't removed the old suspension, cleaned up the chassis, figured out what wheel base I'm are going for yet. Nothing. My life doesn't revolve around my rig.

;)


I don't have a garage now, so when I see one going to waste it makes me sick. :(

But when I had a garage within stones throw I was never in there, oh well.

I'd push that rear axle as far back as you can the first time around.

Otherwise, with the short driveline, and using a CV joint, pointing the pinion at the tcase means you've got a shovel back there..

Just some personal experience with that one.

:D

Originally posted by tdavis
I'd push that rear axle as far back as you can the first time around.

Otherwise, with the short driveline, and using a CV joint, pointing the pinion at the tcase means you've got a shovel back there..

Just some personal experience with that one.

:D

Shave the axle:D

Originally posted by Frankie_Bones



I don't have a garage now, so when I see one going to waste it makes me sick. :(


You have no idea what you're talking about. I saved the two Zooks I have, and that Toy running gear, from going to the junkyard... litterally. :confused:

Originally posted by Chemical442


You have no idea what you're talking about. I saved the two Zooks I have, and that Toy running gear, from going to the junkyard... litterally. :confused:


......I thought he meant a garage going to waste, not a vehicle:confused:

Originally posted by UZI 9mm
......I thought he meant a garage going to waste, not a vehicle:confused:



Upon further investigation, you may be correct. Woops. :laughing:

As for the garage, it's packed right now. Trust me, it's getting used like a Tiawanese teen. Besides, I think this build up may have to be done on our farm a few towns over.

Originally posted by Chemical442



Trust me, it's getting used like a Tiawanese teen.

Thats a lot of pop-rocks:eek:

Originally posted by Chemical442




Trust me, it's getting used like a Tiawanese teen.


:confused: Me weldy weldy long long time























bahaha:D

Originally posted by LAME


Shave the axle:D

I did.

Still a shovel.

Got the crap home. Gonna start de-smogging the 22R and clean up/reseal the axles as time permits.

This project may actually get done someday. :laughing:

Any of your R guys ever strip it down to the bare essentials? The Toy guys had some marginal advice through searches but I'm still studying. :shrug:

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What happened to the drums on the rear axle?

Originally posted by Frankie_Bones
What happened to the drums on the rear axle?


Yep. Passenger rear is missing. I think it was a project he never got around to, so I am looking for a rear passenger backing plate assembly right now. That's the only thing in the pile of junk not useable right now.