im in the midst of deciding. from my pov its a lot easier to deal with the rock block. it doesnt seem to be any more money than a 8to1 gear set w/ rebuild kit and labor.

what are the down falls to just using a rock block.or vise versa

this is a trailer-trail rig only so high gear does not really matter,thanks

Originally posted by CRICKET
im in the midst of deciding. from my pov its a lot easier to deal with the rock block. it doesnt seem to be any more money than a 8to1 gear set w/ rebuild kit and labor.

what are the down falls to just using a rock block.or vise versa

this is a trailer-trail rig only so high gear does not really matter,thanks

There are no down falls about a rock block..brent has created an awesome doubler box......No vibrations, and with a cheap 4:1 case this can make many different gear choices:D

news flash- im a little confused:rolleyes: so the rock block can creat the same gear ratio as an 8:1 gear set correct?

sorry if i offended anyone by the "downfalls of the rock block''

i guess my real question is what is a less pita way to achieve an 8:1 gear reduction?

Originally posted by CRICKET
news flash- im a little confused:rolleyes: so the rock block can creat the same gear ratio as an 8:1 gear set correct?

sorry if i offended anyone by the "downfalls of the rock block''

i guess my real question is what is a less pita way to achieve an 8:1 gear reduction?

8:1 gears or a 4:1 case and a 2:1 doubler box.:D

awesome. thanks for the knowledge. ill be running 5.38s in dana 44 with some 38.5x11.00 boggers, sounds like ill get the box and if i need to later ill pull the case and put in a differant gear set.

Originally posted by CRICKET
awesome. thanks for the knowledge. ill be running 5.38s in dana 44 with some 38.5x11.00 boggers, sounds like ill get the box and if i need to later ill pull the case and put in a differant gear set.

Id get a case first!

get a 6:1 or an 8:1 case at first, if you need more, then go with the doubler...

well if i were to buy a gear set it would be the 8:1s, now if i buy that it almost is worth my time to buy the rock block instaed, ie no pulling apart tcase. is there a reason you would go with the tcase gears before a block?

Originally posted by CRICKET
well if i were to buy a gear set it would be the 8:1s, now if i buy that it almost is worth my time to buy the rock block instaed, ie no pulling apart tcase. is there a reason you would go with the tcase gears before a block?

That's tough. I have a rock block and I'm pretty down with it so far. But I'm running a GRSII behind it (4.89) and stock for now toy 4.10's making a 132:1 final.
And you say that it is a trail only/trailered rig and if you buy the rock block you will not buy a gears for the case right? If that's the case, let's see what the numbers are.......

3.652x8x5.38= 157:1

3.652x1.816x2.268x5.38= 80:1

So it does not take a rocket surgen to figure that out.:rolleyes: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by CRICKET
im in the midst of deciding. from my pov its a lot easier to deal with the rock block. it doesnt seem to be any more money than a 8to1 gear set w/ rebuild kit and labor.

what are the down falls to just using a rock block.or vise versa

this is a trailer-trail rig only so high gear does not really matter,thanks

$890 Vs $1350, seems like quite a bit more money. If your not going to rebuild your stock case if you buy the Rockblock, why would you rebuild it if you put the 8:1 gears in? I would check the bearings and clearances first, then decide if a rebuild was needed.

If your running a 1.6 engine you can get OTT's Kicker 3 (http://www.ottindustries.com/kicker3.htm) ($600) and a 4.16 sami gear set ($400) and it would be cheaper than the 8:1's alone. You would also get the beefier transmission and heavier flywheel.

Plus the price of the Kick trans and kick tcase though right?

I do think it's a sweet setup though.

oh yea, I keep getting that stuff in parts rigs I get so I had them laying around...

Originally posted by Rudezuk Id get a case first!
get a 6:1 or an 8:1 case at first, if you need more, then go with the doubler... Without a doubt he'll need both if he ventures into boulder territory. {6:1 & doubler}

ok ok ill stop w/ the stupid thaughts and buy the 8:1 , thanks for the math on the final crawl ratio.:flipoff2: well i see where i stand on the situation.

Get an 8.1 and a doubler.... :eek:

I don't see how the rock block is a doubler if it's in front of the case?

Doesn't matter where it is in the drivetrain as long as it's before the tires hit the rocks.

Isn't it called a doubler because it doubles the amount of transfer cases you have not the gearing necessarily. :flipoff2: